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Post by West on Mar 19, 2016 17:53:38 GMT -5
Id read that fan fiction. Im assuming it never happened though guys or did it Oh id be the happiest fan if that happened. Having that ending. If Rose was out. Do a tv film set after season 3, where Prue lived. Maybe Piper in in a long coma for 17 years, and awakens. So throw out season 4-8. Man id be so pleased. Allowing fans the choice to stick to which ending. We can dream. Doesnt star trek do these movies. Im not a fan of it, but i heard from people they did or am i wrong these alternate films. No, I don't think Forbuss and I ever did work on this. It would be a fun way of doing it. But I think this particular idea would only work as a fanfic - it would be hard to make the actresses look that young. Now my idea of Piper in a coma after "All Hell Breaks Loose" in 2000 (one Leo couldn't bring her out of) and waking up in 2016 to find out that S4-8 is just her delusion she saw during her coma and now she (and we) get to find out what has happened in the meantime - Prue never died and is married to Bane now that he's out of jail - they're the ones with the two boys - Phoebe is happily married to Cole who never became the Source with just one child, Ladybug - and she never became a media star; and Paige never existed. With Piper in her coma there is no Charmed One, so the Source has left them alone since then. But now with Piper awake, he's ready for more - and he pushes back his cape to show that he's actually Zankou. Piper's reaction to all of that...oh, yes, that would be the TV movie I'd like to see. Star Trek had a bad guy from the future come back and change it so it would end up totally different, allowing different actors to play the roles - except Spock who was played by two different characters including Leonard Nimoy as the Spock from the future that the bad guy came from. I could see a future bad guy doing that to Charmed to set up a reboot, but like Star Trek, that wouldn't be for another 10=20 years. For now, I'd prefer a TV movie like what I described. I like your idea that ones sounds fun. Aww i see. Yes that wouldnt work just yet for a reboot, so a tv movie would be great. We can dream one in 2018 for the 20th anniversary.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:08:32 GMT -5
I could go for a reboot, for sure. I think if they brought back the original characters it would kill the magic a bit. Us fans are already critical of Charmed's later years so a movie or revival season would feel like the actors were just being wheeled out for the cheque. And what is there left for the Charmed Ones to possibly do? Meeting Prue is literally the only thing that would be interesting and even that wouldn't be a very compelling movie and it wouldn't fill up a whole season. Similarly, we couldn't possibly have another Big Bad/Ultimate Power for the sisters, that would be ridiculous.
I'd much prefer a reboot with new sisters, new foes, new relationships. Of course there would be lots of similarities with the original series, but it would give the writers a chance to fix the mistakes that Kern and co. made on the original series.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 19, 2016 20:24:59 GMT -5
No, I don't think Forbuss and I ever did work on this. It would be a fun way of doing it. But I think this particular idea would only work as a fanfic - it would be hard to make the actresses look that young. Now my idea of Piper in a coma after "All Hell Breaks Loose" in 2000 (one Leo couldn't bring her out of) and waking up in 2016 to find out that S4-8 is just her delusion she saw during her coma and now she (and we) get to find out what has happened in the meantime - Prue never died and is married to Bane now that he's out of jail - they're the ones with the two boys - Phoebe is happily married to Cole who never became the Source with just one child, Ladybug - and she never became a media star; and Paige never existed. With Piper in her coma there is no Charmed One, so the Source has left them alone since then. But now with Piper awake, he's ready for more - and he pushes back his cape to show that he's actually Zankou. Piper's reaction to all of that...oh, yes, that would be the TV movie I'd like to see. Star Trek had a bad guy from the future come back and change it so it would end up totally different, allowing different actors to play the roles - except Spock who was played by two different characters including Leonard Nimoy as the Spock from the future that the bad guy came from. I could see a future bad guy doing that to Charmed to set up a reboot, but like Star Trek, that wouldn't be for another 10=20 years. For now, I'd prefer a TV movie like what I described. I like your idea that ones sounds fun. Aww i see. Yes that wouldnt work just yet for a reboot, so a tv movie would be great. We can dream one in 2018 for the 20th anniversary. Oh, one for the 20th anniversary would be *so* sweet! And not all that far away...
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Post by West on Mar 19, 2016 21:34:20 GMT -5
I like your idea that ones sounds fun. Aww i see. Yes that wouldnt work just yet for a reboot, so a tv movie would be great. We can dream one in 2018 for the 20th anniversary. Oh, one for the 20th anniversary would be *so* sweet! And not all that far away... Oh definitely would be. I hope we get a reunion. Wishful thinking of a blu ray release with good extras. Like Xfiles got for theirs. I just hope we get a treat for the 20th.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 19, 2016 21:53:18 GMT -5
Oh, one for the 20th anniversary would be *so* sweet! And not all that far away... Oh definitely would be. I hope we get a reunion. Wishful thinking of a blu ray release with good extras. Like Xfiles got for theirs. I just hope we get a treat for the 20th. We can certainly hope....
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Post by sol on Mar 20, 2016 15:46:32 GMT -5
I fear a reebot, I'm ready to bet it'ld be full of specila effect and useless scene of sex and characters so powerful to ask why they don't take the power on the planet
More better a spin off with my favorite kids, Wyatt and Chris
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Post by West on Mar 20, 2016 18:41:21 GMT -5
I fear a reebot, I'm ready to bet it'ld be full of specila effect and useless scene of sex and characters so powerful to ask why they don't take the power on the planet More better a spin off with my favorite kids, Wyatt and Chris I see your point there. I guess it can go either way. As for Wyatt and Chris. Who would you cast as them, as you cant use Wes or Drew as they are far too old now to play 20s.
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Post by sol on Mar 21, 2016 2:02:42 GMT -5
I fear a reebot, I'm ready to bet it'ld be full of specila effect and useless scene of sex and characters so powerful to ask why they don't take the power on the planet More better a spin off with my favorite kids, Wyatt and Chris I see your point there. I guess it can go either way. As for Wyatt and Chris. Who would you cast as them, as you cant use Wes or Drew as they are far too old now to play 20s. Sorry, I don't know, I don't watch many series- or better, I look at the first 1-2 episodes and then I stop if I don't like In addition, I have a bad memory for the names, to remind me of an actor's name, I have to see him several times! In my imagination Wyatt'll always hang in the balance between good and evil, so I'ld like an angelic face actor Chris, instead, will always be the Puck little brother, so I'ld like an actor who it's enough to look at him to understand he is a troublemaker Do you know some actor who fist with my description?
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Post by Granny Charmed on Apr 21, 2016 22:31:28 GMT -5
If they do a reboot I hope they allow Grams or Patty to get some more attention (I know I am biased because they are in my age group). Only because I want to see a reboot where they have the girls knowing they are witches, so let Grams or Patty having trained them and got them witch ready for the day they are set to become the charmed ones. The first episode can just have them becoming the charmed ones they are so destined to be.
But leave the show alone and let it be remember for what it was. I'm am so against how they shifted the show from a series I enjoyed to one only people my granddaughter's age group would like. But they didn't set a good message for viewers, when they constantly abused magic and lost the spark that made the early seasons so special.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 23:57:33 GMT -5
But leave the show alone and let it be remember for what it was. I'm am so against how they shifted the show from a series I enjoyed to one only people my granddaughter's age group would like. But they didn't set a good message for viewers, when they constantly abused magic and lost the spark that made the early seasons so special. A little off-topic, but this is an unfortunate reality of television. Advertisers see absolutely no value in anyone over the age of 49 (in some cases 34), so networks and producers take pride in giving the finger to older audiences and aiming exclusively at youth. You could see this happening on Charmed as early as Season 3. The tone was darker and more action-oriented, and you had the introduction of Phoebe/Cole. Phoebe was always the most popular sister among younger fans, and Phoebe/Cole was a "Good Girl/Bad Boy" couple that carried the same kind of tween appeal as Buffy/Angel.
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Post by Granny Charmed on Apr 22, 2016 0:10:12 GMT -5
But leave the show alone and let it be remember for what it was. I'm am so against how they shifted the show from a series I enjoyed to one only people my granddaughter's age group would like. But they didn't set a good message for viewers, when they constantly abused magic and lost the spark that made the early seasons so special. A little off-topic, but this is an unfortunate reality of television. Advertisers see absolutely no value in anyone over the age of 49 (in some cases 34), so networks and producers take pride in giving the finger to older audiences and aiming exclusively at youth. You could see this happening on Charmed as early as Season 3. The tone was darker and more action-oriented, and you had the introduction of Phoebe/Cole. Phoebe was always the most popular sister among younger fans, and Phoebe/Cole was a "Good Girl/Bad Boy" couple that carried the same kind of tween appeal as Buffy/Angel. Its a real shame as there are fans that are not in the age group they target. bettynewie your correct in that with the appeal of Buffy/Angel to get the viewers for Charmed. Why did they need too. Wasnt it rating better than Buffy in those early years. My granddaughter once said Charmed was pulling bigger numbers than Buffy at one point. Why ruin a good thing they had going and getting gready thinking they can grab buffy fans. Reason WB was canceled. They need to target everyone. But I can see why my Granddaughter loved season 3 and 4. So they did do their job to target her age group. Thats the appeal of those earlier seasons for someone like me. However I can still find something plesant In watching season 3 or 4. I may be old but i still find enjoyment in shows targeted to younger people. I just want good written content.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 0:30:51 GMT -5
Bettynewie your correct in that with the appeal of Buffy/Angel to get the viewers for Charmed. Why did they need too. Wasnt it rating better than Buffy in those early years. My granddaughter once said Charmed was pulling bigger than Buffy at one point. Why ruin a good thing they had and get gready thinking they can grab buffy fans. Charmed might have had higher ratings than Buffy, but Buffy was "hipper." Joss Whedon was a huge It Boy in the late 90s and early 00s, garnering major critical acclaim and being hailed as the face of modern television. He and his shows brought credibility to the WB in a way that Charmed never did, so the network treated Buffy as their crown jewel and Charmed as trash. (It was a similar case with Dawson's Creek (Kevin Williamson) and Felicity (JJ Abrams), which were also treated far better than Charmed despite getting lower ratings.) Reason WB was canceled. They need to target everyone. Tell me about it. It got even worse after Season 4, when the Frog Network seemed dead-set on targeting the show to Horny Teenage Boys and nobody else. We started seeing the sisters get stuffed into trashy costumes and skimpy outfits. Phoebe outright dressed like a prostitute many times in Seasons 5 and 6. Since Holly put her foot down early on about revealing clothes, Piper was mostly spared from it. Alyssa and Rose eventually did the same thing before Season 8, so fanservice duty was given to newcomer Kaley (who reportedly cried when she saw what she had to wear in "Battle of the Hexes").
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 12:15:29 GMT -5
Charmed is over. Let it rest in peace. I'm sorry, but the later seasons torpedoed any real chance of bringing the show back because of the minutia of said seasons.
Besides, you'd need at least three of the actors.
Rose has more or less left acting, moving behind the camera into directing and producing. Besides, she said she cried every time the show was renewed, so I don't see her signing on for this hypothetical revival.
Shannen is currently battling cancer, so that rules her out as well.
So that's two sisters down. That means no Power Of Three, and no Power Of Three, no Charmed.
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Post by unakite on Sept 6, 2016 11:36:00 GMT -5
I have grounds to fear that it would happen what you wrote Prue Pipe Phoebe and even Paige were unrepeatable characters, in a reebot they would be in danger of being overstated or minimized Better then writing some long episode as it was done for Gilmore Girlswith the Charmed Ones in their forties
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 7, 2016 2:09:32 GMT -5
I voted for (Other). I always thought that a short season like they did with Jack Bauer of "24" might be interesting. Do it as a summer special that last 10 to 12 episodes. I would want the main cast back or it wouldn't work for me. Prue could be a ghost or a whitelighter, just so long as she returned. I would dump season eight and bring it in to the current time period, or maybe add a few years. They could all be married with families or not, but I would like to see at least three daughters from the Charmied Ones. They could be cousins. There was an episode where the girls were related that way.
I agree with Granny Charmed that the sisters needed training. They should not have been left in the dark to deal with this all alone. I think binding their powers was a good idea to keep them off the underworlds radar, but like being a doctor or lawyer you have to have a lot of training and text book study before you jump into the deep end. The attic would have made a nice classroom and learning spells and making potions doesn't require a magical ability.
If the girls bring forth a set of Charmed Ones it would be a nice idea to see them bring up the girls to know who they are and what they will face in the future. I also ponder if it couldn't become the power of four. That was an something I wanted to see anyway. Each one of Patty's grandchildren could be born under a sign that coincides with a different element. So you would have Fire, Earth, Air and Water. With the way the world is going good just might need more power.
If they did this as a summer series than it could lead into an interesting re-boot with the well trained girls taking over. I would set it in a time period where the 4 girls are in their early 20's. In fact with all the training they had you could put one of them still in high-school. Writers could have some fun with say another being in college.
The main and now older cast could show up every now and then to keep us die hards happy. Could work ....
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Post by sol on Sept 7, 2016 3:45:20 GMT -5
Something like that'ld work for me
Few episodes, with the original actress, in their true age, to see their lives, back to the first seasons pace: work, friendships, some innocent to save and maybe a Great Threat to face in the final
But no new Charmed Ones, the Warren lineage reached its culmination with Prue Piper and Phoebe, the Power of Three is not something easily repeatable, it requires generations
I'ld like to see Phoebe struggling with two rebellious teenagers, Grams'ld have a lot of fun, Piper split between restaurant and two sons able to orb in Spanish club to get a vino tinto and getting into trouble with local warlock, Paige exasperated by the twins who wish to use her as a taxi!
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Post by Granny Charmed on Sept 7, 2016 6:32:49 GMT -5
I voted for (Other). I always thought that a short season like they did with Jack Bauer of "24" might be interesting. Do it as a summer special that last 10 to 12 episodes. I would want the main cast back or it wouldn't work for me. Prue could be a ghost or a whitelighter, just so long as she returned. I would dump season eight and bring it in to the current time period, or maybe add a few years. They could all be married with families or not, but I would like to see at least three daughters from the Charmied Ones. They could be cousins. There was an episode where the girls were related that way. I agree with Granny Charmed that the sisters needed training. They should not have been left in the dark to deal with this all alone. I think binding their powers was a good idea to keep them off the underworlds radar, but like being a doctor or lawyer you have to have a lot of training and text book study before you jump into the deep end. The attic would have made a nice classroom and learning spells and making potions doesn't require a magical ability. If the girls bring forth a set of Charmed Ones it would be a nice idea to see them bring up the girls to know who they are and what they will face in the future. I also ponder if it couldn't become the power of four. That was an something I wanted to see anyway. Each one of Patty's grandchildren could be born under a sign that coincides with a different element. So you would have Fire, Earth, Air and Water. With the way the world is going good just might need more power. If they did this as a summer series than it could lead into an interesting re-boot with the well trained girls taking over. I would set it in a time period where the 4 girls are in their early 20's. In fact with all the training they had you could put one of them still in high-school. Writers could have some fun with say another being in college. The main and now older cast could show up every now and then to keep us die hards happy. Could work .... Indeed dear having Grams train her granddaughters with the basics and preparing them for their destiny - and getting them ready. It is actually why I like the idea of Grams being alive in season 1 - and have her die at the end of the first season. That way we have her teaching her granddaughters all season as a mentor and then she dies. At least dear they can have their first year as witches being taught by an experienced witch and not having them assigned a whitelighter - or just yet. Maybe even moving Leo's story to the second season for his introduction or keeping him truly in the dark all season long where he is behind the scenes. However doing this leaves Piper perhaps falling in love with Dan before she gets to know Leo. So many possibilities dears. I like the idea of the elements dear. Very good way of doing it - and *how* it could work with a reboot with four sisters. I could see a short summer series with the original's passing the torch dears over to the children. Then phasing out the older cast - but coming in and out of the story with guest appearances. Make Prue the children's whitelighter and you have a fun way to bring her back into the picture and a really *good* reason why the sisters have not had a visit from her in a long time. Well done ShadowCat.
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 7, 2016 15:33:42 GMT -5
Having Grams alive in the first season would have been interesting, but to bring the power of three together Phoebe would have had to arrive sooner. That would have changed the relationship between the girls as we know it. Of course that might have been a good idea, but with the way it was set forth we get to see some friction between the sisters and discover the place they occupy in sisterhood. Perhaps if Grams entered into the mix earlier and instructed them in the basics of magic that might have made good sense.
@ Sol ... there has been a lot of chatter over the years regarding Melinda's prophesy, but the writers blew that out of the water when Paige arrived. Regardless if she knew it or not Paige was a white-lighter while Prue was alive. She did use her powers to orb out of the car accident that killed her adoptive parents. So it would seem she (needed) to be alive. If she was a teenager her active power was used before the girls came into theirs. Even if she knew and understood little there were four sisters running around San Francisco with some strong magic active or not. If the composers of this story wanted to keep this on target then the show should have been canceled, or ... Shannen should not have been fired, or ... her charactor needed to be replaced. They did none of those.
Melinda Warren was powerful but not perfect. As as we know, neither were the girls. Melinda obviously didn't see in her future that she would be brought back. Maybe the greater forces didn't want her to know it all. Too much knowledge can also be a dangerous thing. If the elders did not know of Paige, Melinda could have been kept in the dark.
If the girls powers die with them than all the underworld has to do is wait for them to pass on. Once that happens the magical bad has a full run of the play-ground. Demons of all sorts were trying to kill off the girls, so that shows they didn't want them around. Well they are going to die sooner or later anyway ... so in the future bad wins over good ... if the most powerful good is gone.
Melinda Warren lived in a simpler time period. Too close of a look into the dangerous future might have been too much of an over load. The evil she encountered was in a small community. The Source could have been a mystery to her. Bad will continue to grow of good doesn't keep and expand their abilities.
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Post by sol on Nov 15, 2016 2:17:02 GMT -5
Having Grams alive in the first season would have been interesting, but to bring the power of three together Phoebe would have had to arrive sooner. That would have changed the relationship between the girls as we know it. Of course that might have been a good idea, but with the way it was set forth we get to see some friction between the sisters and discover the place they occupy in sisterhood. Perhaps if Grams entered into the mix earlier and instructed them in the basics of magic that might have made good sense. @ Sol ... there has been a lot of chatter over the years regarding Melinda's prophesy, but the writers blew that out of the water when Paige arrived. Regardless if she knew it or not Paige was a white-lighter while Prue was alive. She did use her powers to orb out of the car accident that killed her adoptive parents. So it would seem she (needed) to be alive. If she was a teenager her active power was used before the girls came into theirs. Even if she knew and understood little there were four sisters running around San Francisco with some strong magic active or not. If the composers of this story wanted to keep this on target then the show should have been canceled, or ... Shannen should not have been fired, or ... her charactor needed to be replaced. They did none of those. Melinda Warren was powerful but not perfect. As as we know, neither were the girls. Melinda obviously didn't see in her future that she would be brought back. Maybe the greater forces didn't want her to know it all. Too much knowledge can also be a dangerous thing. If the elders did not know of Paige, Melinda could have been kept in the dark. If the girls powers die with them than all the underworld has to do is wait for them to pass on. Once that happens the magical bad has a full run of the play-ground. Demons of all sorts were trying to kill off the girls, so that shows they didn't want them around. Well they are going to die sooner or later anyway ... so in the future bad wins over good ... if the most powerful good is gone. Melinda Warren lived in a simpler time period. Too close of a look into the dangerous future might have been too much of an over load. The evil she encountered was in a small community. The Source could have been a mystery to her. Bad will continue to grow of good doesn't keep and expand their abilities. It's true, but the evil and the good will always exist In Charmed universe doesen't esist an Elected in every generation to fight demons generically, there are good witche to save the innocents The rise of a great power like the Power of Three generates in high circle - the Angels of Destiny or otherwise,, it is not clear, - the hope that that power can defeat the great evil powers, as the Source The sisters defeat the Source, the Triad, Zankou, the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, they exceed every expectations in eliminating the great champions of evil, leaving Unederworld quarrelsome and without direction As it takes time for the birth of a power like the Power of Three, it takes time for a resurgence of power as that of the Source, hundreds of years for it to come to a new reckoning For this reason I may imagine a more light Charmed, with innocents to save, because always there will be inncents to save, and good witches to do it, normal witches as Phoebe and Paige's children
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Post by rebooted on Feb 28, 2018 2:19:02 GMT -5
an interesting poll to look back on...3 years later
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