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Post by val1993 on Apr 14, 2016 14:59:38 GMT -5
Piper must have forgotten that the guy with the same name framed her ancestor that gave her the ultimate legacy, and then tried to kill her and her sisters?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 15:20:37 GMT -5
It's such a common name that it probably didn't occur to her. Plus, her sister makes the name significant and special to her, whilst the warlock is simply one of her many forgettable foes.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Apr 14, 2016 16:06:26 GMT -5
It was stated season 5 Matthew being Wyatt's middle name was in honour of Paige's surname.
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Post by adzpower on Apr 14, 2016 16:30:48 GMT -5
As if Piper would have even remembered that, Paige couldn't even remember vanquishing THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL so I'm betting Piper did not remember Matthew Tate by season 5 lol.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Apr 14, 2016 21:34:35 GMT -5
There are a lot of Matthew references on the show. Okay, maybe a lot is exaggerating. There was Tate and then the baby in S2. The show seemed to have a thing for the name.
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Post by sol on Apr 15, 2016 1:08:13 GMT -5
Maybe because it's a very common name, In spain it is one of the most popular!
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 15, 2016 6:19:47 GMT -5
There are a lot of Matthew references on the show. Okay, maybe a lot is exaggerating. There was Tate and then the baby in S2. The show seemed to have a thing for the name. I agree. I can't think of any other name that was reused that often. I've always thought that once Brad Kern took over in Season Three, he had Grams tell Piper to keep her maiden name (when Grams didn't), changed her father's name from Victor Halliwell (so Patty didn't keep her maiden name either) to Victor Bennett and named her half-sister Paige Matthews (the Paige was for 'Paige From the Past'), just so eventually Piper could have a son named Wyatt Matthew and a grandson named Matthew. Had the show ended after Season Four like it should've, I'll always believe that that's what we would've seen in the flash-forward - Piper with her son Wyatt Matthew holding his baby son, Matthew, and who cares what happens to anyone else? As if Piper would have even remembered that, Paige couldn't even remember vanquishing THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL so I'm betting Piper did not remember Matthew Tate by season 5 lol. Hehehehehe! Too, too, too true!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 17:00:40 GMT -5
Ironic, considering that Kern and his writers seemingly wanted the audience to forget that the "Matthews" part of Paige's life ever existed.
In the later seasons, they seemed to want the audience to believe that Paige had been a Halliwell the whole time.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Apr 21, 2016 9:27:56 GMT -5
Yeah, lol. But as melinda said, in S5 it was said Matthew being Wyatt's middle name in honor of his aunt Paige. The other appearances of the name were certainly forgotten. Even though Christopher had also appeared before - the owl in S2.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Apr 21, 2016 15:59:42 GMT -5
The naming convention of Wyatt Matthew (Leo & Paige) and Chris (Leo's father) is why I believe that Chris's middle name is Victor (Piper's father). At least it's consistent?!
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Post by unakite on Apr 25, 2016 10:19:41 GMT -5
I think the same thing, I cannot think of Piper naming Perry one of her sons Maybe Perry was Bianca surname
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Post by Assassin Witch on Apr 26, 2016 21:34:42 GMT -5
Oh, yes, I love you. THANK YOU.
1000000%% believe Perry comes from Bianca. They were engaged and Chris understood the power of women and you can take a women's last name.
Also, Wyatt's name has no "P" in it, so why would Chris's?
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Post by sol on Apr 27, 2016 10:56:31 GMT -5
Only Phoebe seemed interested in maintaining the P tradition, while Piper has tried to give a strong meaning to the name of her sons, as Leo and Paige's last name to her firstborn I am convinced that Pipe'ld give also to her second son significant names, as his granfathers names
What meaning could have had Perry for Piper, that she loved Perry Mason?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 17:46:07 GMT -5
It kind of reminds me of the time in Desperate Housewitches when Paige asks Piper and Phoebe how they vanquished the Source the last time.
Ummm... she was there.... for all three times.
Cringeworthy moment!
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Post by sol on Apr 28, 2016 11:27:00 GMT -5
Desperate Housewitches:
Paige: Well, how are we gonna stop the Source if we have no potions
She is alluding to Centennial Charmed when they used a potion against Cole, who still she identifies with the Source in her mind
Piper: It's gonna take a lot more than potions. Paige: How'd you do it last time?
I don't think that Paige asks a question because she doesn't remember it but she asks Piper, with whom she is speaking, about the last time, when they created a circle and used the potion
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 11:33:45 GMT -5
Nice try, Sol. I really must commend you for trying to explain away the bad writing.
Paige was asking how they vanquished the Source, an event she was present for all the times it happened, and thus should remember. There is no getting around that she was talking about the event itself, not what was used.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 29, 2016 3:24:17 GMT -5
Desperate Housewitches: Paige: Well, how are we gonna stop the Source if we have no potions She is alluding to Centennial Charmed when they used a potion against Cole, who still she identifies with the Source in her mind Piper: It's gonna take a lot more than potions. Paige: How'd you do it last time? I don't think that Paige asks a question because she doesn't remember it but she asks Piper, with whom she is speaking, about the last time, when they created a circle and used the potion But if you're talking Centennial Charmed, only Paige would've been part of it - Piper and Phoebe were alternate versions. So what Paige asked would make even less sense. I read somewhere that originally that was supposed to be Billie's line - then it would've made sense. They so should've taken it out when they took Billie out of that scene and put Paige into it.
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