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Post by ljones on Jan 2, 2008 22:00:12 GMT -5
Or you could write/read fan fiction.
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Post by spiritsas on Jan 4, 2008 0:14:57 GMT -5
With the last of the Charmed books coming out this month, fan fiction will be the only surviving source of new stories about the sisters. Too bad they're cancelling the book series as it was just getting into the timeframe of season six, where adult Chris is around. The books may have opened up an opportunity, if they had continued, of bringing back the ghost of Prue, say in post S8 stories.
I had been looking forward to these novelizations and I know there was no lack of stories being written for them. One has to presume that they weren't selling enough to keep them going in the paperback world.
I know there are fan fictions being written all the time too. Some on this site. Does anyone know where there are full novelizations (by fans or those who were preparing stories for the novel series which won't be published now) on the Web?
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Post by ina on Jan 4, 2008 6:25:04 GMT -5
I don't know what to think about this topic. On one hand side you're right to say that new ideas got rare and rarer, but on the other hand it's so sad that it ended with season 8. I would have watched a 9. and 10. season as well...
I mean sure...I can watch the DVDs but it's not the same to see an episode again. I would love to see new ones...
Or to see Holly, Alyssa and Rose on another TV show together...
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Post by latindolphin on Jan 4, 2008 9:18:50 GMT -5
Its sad to know that the show ended but it had to. It could not go on forever {like one of the posters mentioned}. Though as fans--we wish it would. You could also tell the writers and directors were running out of ideas. The plots were getting kinda corny.
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Post by ljones on Jan 4, 2008 12:29:10 GMT -5
What if Prue's spirit had been reborn in another body?
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Post by ushi on Jan 4, 2008 14:57:10 GMT -5
although i would have loved charmed to go on, it is only fair that you let the actors live their lives. if you were doing a tv programme for 8 years, surely you would at some stage want to move on and away from that programme?
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Post by whitelightertony on Jan 4, 2008 15:43:08 GMT -5
How does this babble address my criticism of your theory?
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Post by spiritsas on Jan 5, 2008 0:41:01 GMT -5
What if Prue's spirit had been reborn in another body? An interesting concept. They could have brought her back without actually bringing back SD in real life. The only problem is that they needed to recreate the power of three quickly and we all know how they did that. I wonder if they batted around such an idea (like yours) or simply got stuck on the concept that they had to bring in another sister right away. OK, half sister. Perhaps the idea never ocurred to them until they got to S8 and had the chance to do a proper ending (even if not the one everyone wanted - different thread). They had done stories involving reincarnation, of a sort, or total body possession, but almost all of those had an evil twist to them and they weren't about stealing another person's body even if to bring back their sister. I think they just made the decision to replace and move on. The closest they came was at the very end of the last episode when the little girl, who Brad has said in interviews, was named Prue, was the grandaughter (or grand niece) of Piper, possibly even the great grandaughter or great grand niece. It was never quite clear.
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Post by Ashiee Pie on Jan 13, 2008 16:25:04 GMT -5
Exactly. they had other places to be and the directores and writers would have probably struggled to make new eppisodes, seriously how many demons can there be?
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Post by UnderTheirSpell on Jan 22, 2008 19:37:39 GMT -5
If you've watched through the 8th season then you should know that is DOES get wrapped up. Forever Charmed is a very finalizing finale and with the exception that they FAILED to include any hint of Prue other than a few crappy mentions, it was very good. As for why it ended, well of course it couldn't go on forever. Not to mention that the ratings were in the toilet, the storylines were old and recycled, the writing was stale, the acting (aside from Holly) became cringeworthy...need I continue? 8 seasons is an EXCELLENT run for a show. Charmed is the longest running drama with female leads in television history. I don't see why people need to push their luck and ask for more Charmed when the integrity of the show was already hanging on by a string anyways. In my mind, it ended with season 6. they didnt mention prue at all or cole bc they both wanted WAY to much money for even a picture. They are greedy and i think the series finale was AMAZING
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Post by The Original P3 on Jan 22, 2008 20:07:47 GMT -5
they didnt mention prue at all or cole bc they both wanted WAY to much money for even a picture. They are greedy and i think the series finale was AMAZING Know your facts. They never even approached Shannen to ask about a picture, much less a guest appearance. Do NOT bash the actors, calling them greedy when that is simply not the case. Julian obviously was not greedy when he agreed to come back for the 150th episode. And Shannen was never approached about any somewhat return to Charmed. Also the budget cuts were HUGE in season 8. Case in point..the shortened season with Leo and cutting Darryl out completely. It is not unreasonable to want to be paid for the use of their image.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 22, 2008 20:09:39 GMT -5
First, underyourspell, I absolutely *love* your sceen name.
Second of all, money had nothing to do with it. After the way they were treated, neither Shannen or Julian wanted anything to do with Charmed, and more specifically, Brad Kern. That's why they asked for so much, because they knew that they'd be turned down. Period. End of story. Personally I'm amazed that Shannen agreed to let her image be shown in the DVDs.
There were lots of ways of including Prue and Cole without actually showing them. I did it in my own version of Forever Charmed, Charmed Forever, and everyone who has read it agreed with me.
Forever Charmed was a fantastic finale for the fantasy show known as The Perils of Piper, the spinoff to the show "Charmed", that just happened to run at the same time. It was a horrible finale for the show "Charmed."
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Post by The Original P3 on Jan 22, 2008 20:12:06 GMT -5
Personally I'm amazed that Shannen agreed to let her image be shown. When was this?
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 22, 2008 20:21:02 GMT -5
OOPS! My mistake! Slip of the fingers! I just fixed it in my post.
I meant to say, " Personally I'm amazed that Shannen agreed to let her image be shown in the DVDs." Because I am. I was *sure* I'd never get to have the seasons I wanted and the only ones I've bought (and will buy): One through Three. I'm so grateful to Shannen for setting aside her bitterness long enough so her fans can enjoy watching Prue again! I know I sure do. AND getting to see Piper and Phoebe and Leo and Cole the way I love them best! Thanks, Shannen!
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Post by The Original P3 on Jan 22, 2008 20:31:42 GMT -5
Oh gotcha. Truthfully though, Shannen has no control over that. Sure she gets a cut of the sales of course and still, while the show was airing, owned 5% of Charmed. But as far as DVD releases go, that wasn't up to her anymore than the 90210 releases were. The hold back on Charmed being released to DVD had nothing to do with Shannen and everything to do with music and copyright agreements. TNT was airing the episodes of Charmed that had Prue in them. She was in those eps, they were made, she signed contracts, which meant they could air those and those eps could be sold as long as she gets her cut. It's the future use of her image in episodes after season 3 that wouldn't have happened without contracts and agreements.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 22, 2008 21:07:45 GMT -5
AH! I'd always heard that it was due to Shannen that there was such a hold up. Thank you SOOOO much for clearing that up! And for that you get blessed!
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Post by The Original P3 on Jan 22, 2008 21:16:23 GMT -5
AH! I'd always heard that it was due to Shannen that there was such a hold up. Thank you SOOOO much for clearing that up! And for that you get blessed! No problem and blessed you back! It was a wide misconception about the DVD releases. People chose to blame Shannen for the delay because she was no longer with the series and thought she was just refusing to allow her image to be sold on DVD's. Which was not at all the case.
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Post by spiritsas on Jan 22, 2008 21:42:29 GMT -5
I think you guys have it mostly right. SD was not approached but to use her image in "new" footage or a new episode would mean they would have to have paid her the equivalent of a full episode's pay and, as pointed out, given the budget cuts, that was not possible.
What's also true is that she was never approached about it and never asked to be in the show any more. Since she is such good friends with HMC, I'm sure she knew the show was going to have it's finale that year, but it's seems more and more obvious she was not on speaking terms with Kern, since she was let go nearly five years before Charmed Forever was shot. It was bad firing with whatever backstage drama that might have been going on between her a Alyssa Milano. I don't think she knew she was going to be fired or she would not have been the director on the last episode she was in (AHBL) at the end of Season 3. Does anyone ever want to work for the people who fired you when you thought you didn't deserve to get fired and was totally blindsided by it?
Brad Kern has talked in interviews saying that the last five years was about these three women and not Prue. Despite being mentioned in quite a number of episodes, including the last one, he said he wanted it to be about the current actors and as many of the recurring role actors as he could. In one shot, in Charmed Forever, there were 12 characters, including TCO and he thought that's where the money should go; so they could do a scene like that. Of course, the option to bring Prue back was really never there.
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Post by pubesy on Feb 5, 2008 18:12:43 GMT -5
i have never really seen any interviews from the cast on the shows end. especially about the ending contracts.
links please?
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 8, 2008 11:44:42 GMT -5
I think you guys have it mostly right. SD was not approached but to use her image in "new" footage or a new episode would mean they would have to have paid her the equivalent of a full episode's pay and, as pointed out, given the budget cuts, that was not possible. What's also true is that she was never approached about it and never asked to be in the show any more. Since she is such good friends with HMC, I'm sure she knew the show was going to have it's finale that year, but it's seems more and more obvious she was not on speaking terms with Kern, since she was let go nearly five years before Charmed Forever was shot. It was bad firing with whatever backstage drama that might have been going on between her a Alyssa Milano. I don't think she knew she was going to be fired or she would not have been the director on the last episode she was in (AHBL) at the end of Season 3. Does anyone ever want to work for the people who fired you when you thought you didn't deserve to get fired and was totally blindsided by it? Brad Kern has talked in interviews saying that the last five years was about these three women and not Prue. Despite being mentioned in quite a number of episodes, including the last one, he said he wanted it to be about the current actors and as many of the recurring role actors as he could. In one shot, in Charmed Forever, there were 12 characters, including TCO and he thought that's where the money should go; so they could do a scene like that. Of course, the option to bring Prue back was really never there. If you want to believe Brad Kern, that's your choice. I don't. He's just trying to make himself look good after knowing that he blew it SOOO much and SOOOO often starting with the way he fired Shannen and the personality lobotomies he performed on Piper and Phoebe.
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