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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 10:45:37 GMT -5
Kern took over two years before Season 5. And to be honest, I was not that impressed by how Burge handled Season 2. Yup, which is why I also have TONS of problems with Seasons 3 and 4 and prefer Season 2 over both.  |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Sept 11, 2015 9:56:38 GMT -5
*sigh* Well, keep in mind that at that time, Alyssa was more of a media star than Phoebe later become. With the ratings sagging, it's not that surprising that TheWB wanted Alyssa to be the star of each episode, which I find hilarious since Holly was so very much more the star. The funny thing is that in most of her interviews, Alyssa *still* thinks that she was the star! Yeah, "Charmed" marked a pretty big comeback for Alyssa (who had spent most of the 6 years between that and the end of "Who's the Boss?" doing sleazy made-for-video movies), and she especially became popular during Seasons 3 and 4. No doubt that was why she was put first in the opening credits, despite Holly having been there longer.  No Alyssa was on Melrose Place for a season before Charmed. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 16, 2015 20:53:59 GMT -5
Kern took over two years before Season 5. And to be honest, I was not that impressed by how Burge handled Season 2. Yup, which is why I also have TONS of problems with Seasons 3 and 4 and prefer Season 2 over both. Honestly, I rather watch Seasons 3 and the first half of Season 4 over the second one. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 22:47:08 GMT -5
Honestly, I rather watch Seasons 3 and the first half of Season 4 over the second one. Season 2 lacked a strong story arc (and your favorite character), but it had PLENTY of great standalones like "Morality Bites," "P3 H20," "Murphy's Luck," "Chick Flick," and so on. WAY better than that Demon Brotherhood rubbish from Season 3, IMO. Or, Phoebe turning into PhoeME. |
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Post by adzpower on Sept 27, 2015 17:58:39 GMT -5
Yeah I think the closest we got to a story arc in season 2 was that awful love triangle  . There was no overriding threat to the sisters, it was definitely the formulaic monster of the week. Even in season one we had the Rex plot and Leo's mystery etc. Don't get me wrong, I love season two, it contains some of the series best episodes, but it certainly lacked a "big bad". Aaaah the olden times where Piper still froze and Phoebe still had visions, the good old days. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 30, 2015 21:21:41 GMT -5
I can only think of at least two episodes from Season 2 that struck me as truly outstanding. And even one of them, "Awakened", had its flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 0:16:04 GMT -5
Yeah I think the closest we got to a story arc in season 2 was that awful love triangle . There was no overriding threat to the sisters, it was definitely the formulaic monster of the week. Even in season one we had the Rex plot and Leo's mystery etc. Don't get me wrong, I love season two, it contains some of the series best episodes, but it certainly lacked a "big bad". Aaaah the olden times where Piper still froze and Phoebe still had visions, the good old days. Seeing how the later seasons were handled, maybe Season 2's lack of a Big Bad was a GOOD thing. Zankou was pretty much the only later Big Bad the show ever did right. Otherwise, we got Whiny Half-Face, Gideon, Avatars, and the Triad. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 0:53:46 GMT -5
Hard to believe that Rex and Hannah were so afraid of this pathetic loser.
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Post by adzpower on Oct 1, 2015 4:37:10 GMT -5
Yeah I think the closest we got to a story arc in season 2 was that awful love triangle . There was no overriding threat to the sisters, it was definitely the formulaic monster of the week. Even in season one we had the Rex plot and Leo's mystery etc. Don't get me wrong, I love season two, it contains some of the series best episodes, but it certainly lacked a "big bad". Aaaah the olden times where Piper still froze and Phoebe still had visions, the good old days. Seeing how the later seasons were handled, maybe Season 2's lack of a Big Bad was a GOOD thing. Zankou was pretty much the only later Big Bad the show ever did right. Otherwise, we got Whiny Half-Face, Gideon, Avatars, and the Triad. You definitely make a good point, I feel like if Charmed had been just four seasons they could have had a different level of demon per season to face, each one getting them closer and closer to The Source. Season 1 - Rex/Hannah and Tempest. Season 2 - Maybe some kind of upper level demon general like Shax. Season 3 - The Triad And finally concluding the show at season 4 with the vanquish of The Source (in my version he is way scarier and stronger lol) |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Oct 1, 2015 12:51:26 GMT -5
Yeah I think the closest we got to a story arc in season 2 was that awful love triangle . There was no overriding threat to the sisters, it was definitely the formulaic monster of the week. Even in season one we had the Rex plot and Leo's mystery etc. Don't get me wrong, I love season two, it contains some of the series best episodes, but it certainly lacked a "big bad". Aaaah the olden times where Piper still froze and Phoebe still had visions, the good old days. Seeing how the later seasons were handled, maybe Season 2's lack of a Big Bad was a GOOD thing. Zankou was pretty much the only later Big Bad the show ever did right. Otherwise, we got Whiny Half-Face, Gideon, Avatars, and the Triad. Half Face wasn't whining he was more likely upset and angry that everything he's learned about the Charmed Ones and the magic of the Source over the years still wasn't strong enough to defeat them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 13:03:32 GMT -5
You definitely make a good point, I feel like if Charmed had been just four seasons they could have had a different level of demon per season to face, each one getting them closer and closer to The Source. Season 1 - Rex/Hannah and Tempest. Season 2 - Maybe some kind of upper level demon general like Shax. Season 3 - The Triad And finally concluding the show at season 4 with the vanquish of The Source (in my version he is way scarier and stronger lol) That would've worked, although I would've scrapped the Triad altogether. They were lame villains in Season 3, and they were even lamer in Season 8. Zankou is what the Source should've been--intelligent, cunning, dangerous, and threatening. Not some whiny, weedy guy with a horrible makeup job and an IQ of about 50. What a joke! |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 1, 2015 13:14:34 GMT -5
Or what about the Crone season 3 instead of the Triad and Source then Zankou season 4.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 13:37:52 GMT -5
Or what about the Crone season 3 instead of the Triad and Source then Zankou season 4. That wouldn't have been bad. The original Seer could've also made a good Big Bad. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 2, 2015 16:34:45 GMT -5
Ah yes the original Seer would've been another good option or one other person I did think of was the warlock Bacarra from season 5 also.
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Post by adzpower on Oct 2, 2015 16:49:47 GMT -5
They had a lot of big scary demons that they just didn't use right, they used them all for one episode arcs when they could have been the villain for multiple.
Barbas, The Seer, The Crone, Shax, Kurzon, Rowe Coven, Litvack, Tempus, Necron, The Four Horseman, Abraxas, I mean the list goes on and on.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 2, 2015 20:11:37 GMT -5
Yes it certainly does there.
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Post by sol on Oct 6, 2015 11:00:58 GMT -5
Crone was my favorite
If she hadn't die, I'ld bet she 'ld be the evil who turned Wyatt
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 22, 2021 5:35:14 GMT -5
The Good
I didn't mind the lighter tone change. "Fluff" makes for good re-watchability, IMO. "The Day Magic Died" and "Sense and Sensibility" are really good episodes, and I love re-watching them.
The Bad
Some of the "fluff" wasn't good "fluff" and just downright cringe like "Witches in Tights".
The Cursed
Bringing Cole back into S5 really warped the sisters perspective on what actually happened in S4. And, this misinformation carried over into S7, when Cole came back for the "Seven Year Witch" episode, and how the show is trying to retcon that Cole "made the choice" to become the Source. S5 really tarnished what his character actually represented in S3 and S4, all thanks to this one move in bringing him back into S5.
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