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Post by Charmed10022 on Jan 15, 2013 0:38:33 GMT -5
How Paige was able to forgive Patty in "Charmed Again" for abandoning her but was still bitter towards Sam for doing the same as Patty?
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jan 18, 2013 11:10:54 GMT -5
Good question, though it took her a long time to forgive Sam.
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Post by ljones on Jan 18, 2013 14:59:25 GMT -5
How Paige was able to forgive Patty in "Charmed Again" for abandoning her but was still bitter towards Sam for doing the same as Patty? Bad writing. |
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Jan 19, 2013 14:40:31 GMT -5
I agree, but I think it was because he was so repulsing and full of self pity when she met him. Anyway that aside it does seem a little hypocritical.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 20, 2013 10:54:56 GMT -5
Because Patty was dead and Sam was a whitelighter who could've come see her? At least in Season Four, the only way Patty could come see them was by being summoned - and that by Paige's half-sisters, not she herself, since she didn't know that she was a witch.
But even after Sam knew she was a witch, he didn't come see her until after the Elders made him her charge - after she had been a witch for a year.
And worse, after Patty's death, he wasn't even a whitelighter, yet he still never tried to see her - he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to think about his daughter.
Yeah, I can see why she'd be bitter.
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Post by ljones on Jan 26, 2013 12:31:49 GMT -5
Because Patty was dead and Sam was a whitelighter who could've come see her? At least in Season Four, the only way Patty could come see them was by being summoned - and that by Paige's half-sisters, not she herself, since she didn't know that she was a witch. But even after Sam knew she was a witch, he didn't come see her until after the Elders made him her charge - after she had been a witch for a year. And worse, after Patty's death, he wasn't even a whitelighter, yet he still never tried to see her - he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to think about his daughter. Yeah, I can see why she'd be bitter. It's interesting that the sisters' fathers - Victor and Sam - are portrayed in a more negative light than Patty. I wonder why. It almost seemed as if Burge, Kern and the writers were afraid to expose Patty's less than pleasant traits. And it made no sense to me that Paige was easily to forgive both Patty and Grams for abandoning, when it wasn't really necessary; yet remained so bitter toward Sam. If I had been her, I would have been bitter toward all three. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 3, 2013 23:42:18 GMT -5
Patty's biggest unpleasant trait was the fact that she was pregnant with Paige while she was still with Victor - she was pregnant in that video that the sisters watch during Season One.
I don't think I would've been bitter towards all three when I found out that they had done that to protect me. It's the fact that like Victor, he never tried to see her even when he wasn't a whitelighter that would've bothered me. I can kinda understand why he didn't - she would've reminded him too much of Patty - but still, she's his daughter...
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Post by ljones on Sept 16, 2013 22:05:22 GMT -5
Protect Paige from what? From whom? The whitelighters? They had no right to take Paige away. They didn't even have the right to force Paige to assume whitelighter duties.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Sept 20, 2013 9:24:46 GMT -5
Wasn't it said that at the beginning of S4 that even the Elders had no idea that Paige existed? As it was a forbidden romance/relationship between whitelighters and witches - until Piper and Leo came along. Though Sam and Patty experienced it a bit, without a fear for their daughter who was raised by mortals instead. Yet it would have been nice to see all four sisters grow up together.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 13, 2013 17:55:57 GMT -5
Except the prophecy was always just about three, so Paige would've been on the outside looking in. I think she would've felt bitter towards her half-sisters... So, no, I'm glad she didn't grow up with her half-sisters - she would've felt even more like a half than she did during the show.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 25, 2013 9:18:33 GMT -5
Thinking about this, and also the way the show did witchlighters, I think that had Paige grown up with her half-sisters, with them knowing about the prophecy and Paige the one who was trained to use her powers as their future whitelighter rather than Leo, the series might have been better.
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Post by summers on Nov 13, 2013 0:30:38 GMT -5
Patty's biggest unpleasant trait was the fact that she was pregnant with Paige while she was still with Victor - she was pregnant in that video that the sisters watch during Season One. I don't think I would've been bitter towards all three when I found out that they had done that to protect me. It's the fact that like Victor, he never tried to see her even when he wasn't a whitelighter that would've bothered me. I can kinda understand why he didn't - she would've reminded him too much of Patty - but still, she's his daughter... Am I missing something? I thought that video of her baby bump was her pregnant with Phoebe? There's no way the writers knew back then to foreshadow Paige's existence. |
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Post by ljones on Nov 13, 2013 1:27:19 GMT -5
Are you referring to the video that Victor gave them in early Season One? Or are you speaking of a later video?
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 13, 2013 14:46:40 GMT -5
That one.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Nov 15, 2013 8:09:44 GMT -5
It would make sense since Phoebe was a baby here. At that X-Mas party. It could be possible.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 15, 2013 22:09:13 GMT -5
With how old they were when Patty died, she almost had to be.
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Post by ljones on Jun 23, 2014 23:43:05 GMT -5
At the time of Patty's death in February 1978, Prue was seven years old, Piper was five, Phoebe was over a year old and Paige was six (almost seven) months old.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 11:18:03 GMT -5
If Patty died in February 1978, Phoebe was born in November 1975 and Paige in August 1977 that Christmas video can only really be in December 1976. Patty would be about a month pregnant with Paige.
I get why Paige was bitter towards Sam, especially in Season 8 when he just dropped in and complained that she wasn't being a good, little whitelighter and she wasn't calling him 'Dad' yet. Why would she? She'd met him once once before.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 14, 2014 13:48:11 GMT -5
Thats why I never understood why she called Patty "Mom" right away when she first met her. It appeared that she had a good relationship with her adopted parents. Wouldn't she have saved "Mom" for her real mom, and not her blood mother?
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 15, 2014 2:04:44 GMT -5
Maybe she was completely shocked to finally meet her birth mother and actually called her mom accidentally when she didn't mean to in the first place which's probably not true.
More likely when Paige was introduced on Charmed the producers wanted her to form a bond very quickly with her real family because they were vanquishing the Source that year which always got me being the fact that Paige had never seen them before so you'd think it'd take longer for that to happen there.
When the writers done the script for Charmed Again part 2 they probably didn't take into account first the fact it would look silly Paige saying mom straight away because of what I said above.
I always wondered why Paige didn't see Grams or Sam along with her mother as they were her family to. Had the Elders already made Sam a Whitelighter again or was it that the writers just wanted Paige to know her mother then and not her grandmother also because that's who she was looking for in the first place.
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