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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Sept 24, 2015 4:30:49 GMT -5
Yeah saying the reason Barbas always came back was because of fear seeing as that's how his power worked would've definitely been more palpable than all the other excuses used every time certainly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2015 15:44:16 GMT -5
"The Demon of Fear appears once every thirteen hundred years on Friday the 13th. He feeds on the fears of witches for his survival."
Remember that little bit from "From Fear to Eternity"? Yeah, hard to believe, but Barbas was NOT supposed to show up every other week to terrorize the Charmed Ones. So much for that "every 1300 years" thing, huh? 
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Sept 24, 2015 16:26:47 GMT -5
Yeah it is strange that tidbit wasn't used again but had the writers gone down the Barbas will always exist because of fear route then that would've been pointless really as fear will never die so long as people are afraid of something which's all year round not once every 13 hundred years actually.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 12:32:33 GMT -5
I'm not keen on what Pat is doing bringing back all these old villains. You know "Desperate Housewitches" and how pointless bringing back The Source felt? Well, to me, it's like that, just with lots of other demons. I think I would've preferred if Gaxageal had just been the big bad this season... or perhaps if Heremus just did his own thing.
Going to get the new e-book soon though, so will keep you guys posted on that when I get a chance.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 17, 2015 18:53:07 GMT -5
I'm not keen on what Pat is doing bringing back all these old villains. You know "Desperate Housewitches" and how pointless bringing back The Source felt? Well, to me, it's like that, just with lots of other demons. I think I would've preferred if Gaxageal had just been the big bad this season... or perhaps if Heremus just did his own thing. Going to get the new e-book soon though, so will keep you guys posted on that when I get a chance. By the new e-book do you mean "Let Gorgons be Gorgons" or "The War of the Witches"? I gave in and got the four preview version of LGBG and so far am enjoying it tremendously (just finished Part 2) - not surprisingly, Paul Ruditis does a lot better job with the Greek gods than Kern did with his "Oh, My Goddess!" I haven't been commenting much on the comics even though I've read a couple more issues simply because I'm going along the lines of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"... and if everyone else was going to keep ignoring them, I could, too. But since you *did* comment... There's no longer a single character or a single storyline that I like. Even Kyra is unlikeable, and she's the one who was making it bearable. And the fact that Shand is bringing in a Power of Four makes me simply sick. No way I can see Paul Ruditis doing something like that! If anything, in his ebooks, trying to combine Prue's powers with the Charmed Ones is simply screwing up the Charmed powers, which is exactly what should be happening in the comics. And I'm still certain that somehow Shand is going to figure a way to put Cole's soul into his old body now occupied by Ben Turner so that he can match him up with Phoebe, especially now that he's figured a way of getting rid of Coop now that Phoebe's pregnant with her third child - probably the real reason why he's aged the children so quickly - he just has to keep Coop around until the birth and then he can say he's following canon while still sticking Phoebe and Cole together, the perfect ending for his Cole-fanfic known as Season 10. Now most of that is pure speculation on my part based on my interpretation of events going on, which is why I didn't do a spoiler alert, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. P3Nathan, have you seen the return of Neena yet (Issue 10x14)? Have you ever seen another character who gets a different skin color each time they change artists? |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Dec 17, 2015 23:01:55 GMT -5
I'm not keen on what Pat is doing bringing back all these old villains. You know "Desperate Housewitches" and how pointless bringing back The Source felt? Well, to me, it's like that, just with lots of other demons. I think I would've preferred if Gaxageal had just been the big bad this season... or perhaps if Heremus just did his own thing. Going to get the new e-book soon though, so will keep you guys posted on that when I get a chance. By the new e-book do you mean "Let Gorgons be Gorgons" or "The War of the Witches"? I gave in and got the four preview version of LGBG and so far am enjoying it tremendously (just finished Part 2) - not surprisingly, Paul Ruditis does a lot better job with the Greek gods than Kern did with his "Oh, My Goddess!" I haven't been commenting much on the comics even though I've read a couple more issues simply because I'm going along the lines of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"... and if everyone else was going to keep ignoring them, I could, too. But since you *did* comment... There's no longer a single character or a single storyline that I like. Even Kyra is unlikeable, and she's the one who was making it bearable. And the fact that Shand is bringing in a Power of Four makes me simply sick. No way I can see Paul Ruditis doing something like that! If anything, in his ebooks, trying to combine Prue's powers with the Charmed Ones is simply screwing up the Charmed powers, which is exactly what should be happening in the comics. And I'm still certain that somehow Shand is going to figure a way to put Cole's soul into his old body now occupied by Ben Turner so that he can match him up with Phoebe, especially now that he's figured a way of getting rid of Coop now that Phoebe's pregnant with her third child - probably the real reason why he's aged the children so quickly - he just has to keep Coop around until the birth and then he can say he's following canon while still sticking Phoebe and Cole together, the perfect ending for his Cole-fanfic known as Season 10. Now most of that is pure speculation on my part based on my interpretation of events going on, which is why I didn't do a spoiler alert, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. P3Nathan, have you seen the return of Neena yet (Issue 10x14)? Have you ever seen another character who gets a different skin color each time they change artists? Just finished Part 3 of Let Gorgons Be Gorgons btw I think there's a part 4 that's not out yet or else it will be another book cause the Charmed Ones haven't battled Medusa and her sisters yet and Coop and Cole are off trying to stop Daffydd (odd name for a fallen Cupid) and get Eros ring back that was stolen from Cupid's Temple. I find it interesting that Coop said that it's not really forbidden for a Cupid to find love for themselves and that their are other Cupid marriages that have been blessed by the heavens. Paul Ruditis has done a fantastic job with this book so far. I haven't kept track of the comic books cause it looked it was getting boring and ridiculous. I don't know how you gonna get rid of Coop cause I thought he was going to be around for the birth of their third daughter what is Pat gonna do kill Coop somehow or undo their blessed marriage or what? I don't care really care anymore. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 17, 2015 23:29:18 GMT -5
When I got Part Three on my Nook, I had a chance to buy Part Four, so, yes, there is one.
Daffydd is the Olde English spelling of David.
As for the comics, he has the cupids getting angry at Coop for not doing his job so it looks like that's how they'll get rid of him once Phoebe has their third child. This is supposed to only be two years after the Ultimate Battle - why does Phoebe's oldest daughter already look like she's 5?? So she can have another sister, of course!
Season 9 (Paul Ruditis') was SOOOO fantastic and Season 10 (Pat Shand's) is SOOOOO ridiculously boring. I'm so afraid that this will mean the end of the comics...
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 18, 2015 1:56:54 GMT -5
This confirms me in my opinion that when a serie ends, you have to say goodbye, not endlessly drag characters and situations
I never read the books or the comics, I think Dumas was the only one, with the cycle of the Three Musketeers ,to write three books around four characters without boring
Charmed lasted eight seasons, it'ld be better managed - I blame the constant vacillation of the production, a series requires a lot of work,it isn't possible to toss a season off in three months- but it was over when Phoebe started to summarize their eight years on the Book of Shadows
Eight years are a long time for a series with this structure, Supernatural is the proof, it is dragging proposing always the same plots
I saw last night the latest chapter of Star Wars: it's a reboot of the original Star Wars, perhaps the only sensible way to start again with a new legend and new characters
I never would think of a season nine or ten but of a leap in time, with an elderly Piper who guides a new generation of witches - witches not Charmed ones- or develop one of several timelines appeared in Charmed
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 13:24:12 GMT -5
No, it isn't. Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill are in it, reprising their roles as Han Solo, Princess Leia, and Luke Skywalker (roles they last played in Return Of The Jedi, 32 years ago).
This is more akin to Star Trek: The Next Generation. A continuation, set decades later, not a reboot.
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 18, 2015 16:23:03 GMT -5
I saw the movie and, belive me, it's a kind of reboot
We'll talk about it when you'll have seen it, I read that in Canada will be screened tonight
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Post by lilchi7212 on Dec 18, 2015 18:57:13 GMT -5
When I got Part Three on my Nook, I had a chance to buy Part Four, so, yes, there is one. Daffydd is the Olde English spelling of David. As for the comics, he has the cupids getting angry at Coop for not doing his job so it looks like that's how they'll get rid of him once Phoebe has their third child. This is supposed to only be two years after the Ultimate Battle - why does Phoebe's oldest daughter already look like she's 5?? So she can have another sister, of course! Season 9 (Paul Ruditis') was SOOOO fantastic and Season 10 (Pat Shand's) is SOOOOO ridiculously boring. I'm so afraid that this will mean the end of the comics... Nevermind I found part 4. Thanks for the meaning I think Pat Shand said that Season 10 might be the end. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 18, 2015 19:03:01 GMT -5
When I got Part Three on my Nook, I had a chance to buy Part Four, so, yes, there is one. Daffydd is the Olde English spelling of David. As for the comics, he has the cupids getting angry at Coop for not doing his job so it looks like that's how they'll get rid of him once Phoebe has their third child. This is supposed to only be two years after the Ultimate Battle - why does Phoebe's oldest daughter already look like she's 5?? So she can have another sister, of course! Season 9 (Paul Ruditis') was SOOOO fantastic and Season 10 (Pat Shand's) is SOOOOO ridiculously boring. I'm so afraid that this will mean the end of the comics... Nevermind I found part 4. Thanks for the meaning I think Pat Shand said that Season 10 might be the end.  So unhappy to hear that - unless it means that for Paul Ruditis' next e-book, he can have it take place AFTER Season 10 and fix some of Shand's many, many mistakes, the way Paul has fixed so many of Connie's and Brad's. |
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Post by lilchi7212 on Dec 18, 2015 19:04:16 GMT -5
I saw the movie and, belive me, it's a kind of reboot We'll talk about it when you'll have seen it, I read that in Canada will be screened tonight This isn't a reboot the storyline takes place many years after the Empire has fallen in Return of the Jedi. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 18, 2015 19:14:39 GMT -5
This confirms me in my opinion that when a serie ends, you have to say goodbye, not endlessly drag characters and situations I never read the books or the comics, I think Dumas was the only one, with the cycle of the Three Musketeers ,to write three books around four characters without boring Charmed lasted eight seasons, it'ld be better managed - I blame the constant vacillation of the production, a series requires a lot of work,it isn't possible to toss a season off in three months- but it was over when Phoebe started to summarize their eight years on the Book of Shadows Eight years are a long time for a series with this structure, Supernatural is the proof, it is dragging proposing always the same plots But that's the thing. In most fanfics, and definitely the comics and the books, it's *not* the same plots, because it doesn't have to be thanks to the new medium. Books and comics can do things that simply aren't possible on screen, leaving all sorts of possibilities. And I like what's been done with a lot of it, just like I don't like what's done with some of it. People who turn good guys into bad guys or bad guys into good guys, no, I don't like that. But when they bring back the characters I loved in earlier Charmed, but make it clear that it's them older and and wiser, oh, yes, that I love a lot. That's the only way it makes sense when you're using the same characters on screen. Not true for books. And to me, that sounds boring. I like Season 9 and most of the books and a lot of fanfics (except those ones who take one of the best villain ever (I always imagine Rex becoming something like Zankou) and turns him into 'the warlock we all love" - that I would always hate and never wonder why his fans are people who have never seen Charmed - because he's not Charmed's Rex any more than S4-8 Charmed Ones are the same ones in S1-3. - after all, in those, they *are* the most powerful witches ever. In S4-8, Billie and Christy are.) And if the new Star Wars movie (which I'll see in January, so PLEASE, do all your spoiling in a totally different thread in the Open Discussion board!) takes the same characters put into the same situation but have them simply played by different characters with different names, I'll be extremely bored and extremely disappointed. I would've much preferred them doing the next three with the original set done 5-10 years after the first, something that couldn't be done due to the divorce between George Lucas and his ex-wife Marcia and him not wanting her to make anything off of it. Hence why we're stuck with new actors. I'll always prefer the originals, which is what we get in the comics and why I don't want a Charmed reboot for another 10-15 years while I'd LOVE a Charmed movie with the original, especially if it was based on Season 9 of the comics and the e-books. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 0:35:08 GMT -5
If the comics end, then Paul Ruditis should just ignore their continuity in his e-books, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 3:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 10:17:07 GMT -5
Es just can't help herself, can she. She has to take a swing at my stories any chance she gets You committed a grave sin by not writing your characters with a 1950s Black & White viewpoint. And, by not writing about the Halliwells, of course. As for the comics, Shand's run seems to have been a big flop. It hasn't been as well-received, nor has it even been selling well. At this point, they should probably just scrap the comics and focus on Ruditis' e-books. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 19, 2015 16:22:16 GMT -5
By the new e-book do you mean "Let Gorgons be Gorgons" or "The War of the Witches"? I gave in and got the four preview version of LGBG and so far am enjoying it tremendously (just finished Part 2) - not surprisingly, Paul Ruditis does a lot better job with the Greek gods than Kern did with his "Oh, My Goddess!" I haven't been commenting much on the comics even though I've read a couple more issues simply because I'm going along the lines of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"... and if everyone else was going to keep ignoring them, I could, too. But since you *did* comment... There's no longer a single character or a single storyline that I like. Even Kyra is unlikeable, and she's the one who was making it bearable. And the fact that Shand is bringing in a Power of Four makes me simply sick. No way I can see Paul Ruditis doing something like that! If anything, in his ebooks, trying to combine Prue's powers with the Charmed Ones is simply screwing up the Charmed powers, which is exactly what should be happening in the comics. And I'm still certain that somehow Shand is going to figure a way to put Cole's soul into his old body now occupied by Ben Turner so that he can match him up with Phoebe, especially now that he's figured a way of getting rid of Coop now that Phoebe's pregnant with her third child - probably the real reason why he's aged the children so quickly - he just has to keep Coop around until the birth and then he can say he's following canon while still sticking Phoebe and Cole together, the perfect ending for his Cole-fanfic known as Season 10. Now most of that is pure speculation on my part based on my interpretation of events going on, which is why I didn't do a spoiler alert, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit. P3Nathan, have you seen the return of Neena yet (Issue 10x14)? Have you ever seen another character who gets a different skin color each time they change artists? Just finished Part 3 of Let Gorgons Be Gorgons btw I think there's a part 4 that's not out yet or else it will be another book cause the Charmed Ones haven't battled Medusa and her sisters yet and Coop and Cole are off trying to stop Daffydd (odd name for a fallen Cupid) and get Eros ring back that was stolen from Cupid's Temple. I find it interesting that Coop said that it's not really forbidden for a Cupid to find love for themselves and that their are other Cupid marriages that have been blessed by the heavens. Paul Ruditis has done a fantastic job with this book so far. I haven't kept track of the comic books cause it looked it was getting boring and ridiculous. I don't know how you gonna get rid of Coop cause I thought he was going to be around for the birth of their third daughter what is Pat gonna do kill Coop somehow or undo their blessed marriage or what? I don't care really care anymore. Just letting you know that I finished Part Three and there's no doubt about it - Paul Ruditis' headcanon is definitely now mine, especially with his way of explaining the Greek gods and the Titans and the Cupids - especially his explanation for the ring and what Cupids can and can't do. I'm truly enjoying this one more than The War on Witches, although part of that is because I was disappointed by how anticlimatic the ending was, my one and only complaint against that one. I hope this ending will be better. Just disappointed that they haven't come out with a full book like they said they would, that you have to do it in four parts. But in some ways, that's better - it's like having four acts of the episode and having to wait between to find out what happens, since each part ends in a cliffie. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 19:34:01 GMT -5
I actually missed the issue where all the stuff with Coop went down ("Court of Love" was it?). Last issue I read was the one with Neena.
Haha, yeah you're definitely not wrong about the skin colour- that's been one of the things that annoyed me throughout; inconsistency, particularly with how comic exclusive characters are drawn... it's one thing when it's someone based on an actor, you can usually work it out, but with original characters it's particularly jarring.
Two occasions besides Neena that I recall are Glynnis- first time she appeared she was a very muscular, androgynist woman... next time we see her she looks like a super model who I never would've recognised as the same character. Another was Bailey, for most of her appearances she was a short, plump, red head... then in the finale she's suddenly a taller, slimmer, blonde!
Yeah I just got Let Gorgons Be Gorgons. I've downloaded all 4 parts, I'm just reacquainting myself with The War on Witches first. I'm looking forward to it for sure and I'm glad to hear that Paul is handling the Greek myths well. I've always loved things involving Greek mythology; just not Kern's cringe inducing interpretations.
As for the comics, like I said, I missed an issue and once upon a time, I would be kicking myself for that... now, not so much. I did seriously consider not carrying on after the last arc. When I get so far with something, I'll often feel a need to finish it, even if I'm not particularly enjoying it. I think that's where I'm at with Charmed at the moment.
Having said that, that need isn't always strong enough to keep me reading. When I read the very last Buffy comic I bought; gaping in utter disbelief at what I was reading, the fact that I'd stuck with the comic for over a whopping 40 issues before that didn't stop me from ditching the series once and for all. If this power of four talk becomes reality, that could definitely be the final straw for me.
Also, I don't know if you guys have heard, but the third and fourth ebooks will apparently be written by Pat. No idea what happened there, because I'm almost certain Paul said he had three Charmed e-books in the pipeline. Whether that means Paul will come back to them with his 3rd installment later, I dunno, but it doesn't sound like it to be honest.
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So unhappy to hear that - unless it means that for Paul Ruditis' next e-book, he can have it take place AFTER Season 10 and fix some of Shand's many, many mistakes, the way Paul has fixed so many of Connie's and Brad's.