Two Powers Each

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I like what you guys are talking about in terms of the introduction of new powers. It reminds me of an idea I posted a while ago, which was that each sister's 'power' would stay the same, but come to include many advancements/abilities. So, something like this:

Prue ('the power to move things with the mind'):

Season One
- Optically-controlled Telekinesis
- Hand-controlled Telekinesis

Season Two
- Greater control over range of movement and weight of objects/persons. 
- Telekinetically enhanced strength (i.e. stronger punches and kicks).

Season Three
- Telekinetically enhanced agility (principally meaning her gravity-defying acrobatics).
- Advanced Telekinesis (the 'Morality Bites' power, but in a much less destructive form, I have something like Shax's power in mind, or the power Goddess-Piper used against Chris). 


Piper ('the power to decrease speed'):

Season One
- The 'decelerating' power that P. Baxter had would be how Piper's power first manifested itself.
- Control of 're-accelerating'/'un-slowing' (basically the unfreezing). 

Season Two
- Improved control of speed of the deceleration (ex. she can decide whether to slow someone down by a minute or an hour).
- Towards the end of the season she learns to freeze things completely or 'immobilise' them as originally seen on the show.

Season Three 
- Gains control over her 'slowing' and 'freezing'.
- Learns to incorporate both powers together (i.e. can freeze one demon and slow down another simultaneously). 

Season Four
- Learns to selectively 'unslow'/'unfreeze' specific body parts/people in a group.
- Ice-Freezing/Inhibition (the power she had as a warlock, increased 'freezing' of molecules so they begin to lose heat and crystallise).

Season Five
- Full control over her three separate abilities.
- Learns to selectively 'ice-freeze'.
- Scope, range and length of time of all her abilities increase.
 
Seasons Six - Eight
- Can accelerate the ice-freezing process so fast that demons begin to melt away soon after being frozen. 
- Can 'un-ice' people as well. 


Phoebe ('the power to perceive the unperceivable/clairvoyance'):

Season One
- Visions of the future (premonition)
- Visions of the past (retrocognition)
- Tactile 'calling' of a premonition
- Can detect time shifts

Season Two
- Can establish links with demons and other psychics (e.g. the Succubus). 
- Begins to feel the emotions of those in her visions.

Season Three
- Enhanced intuition (can 'read' people in basic form, can tell if they're lying/concealing something). 
- Enhanced perception in battle (e.g. can match centuries-old demons in battle due to her ability to predict their moves seconds before).
- psychic echoes affect her (Bo Lightfeather). 

Season Four
- Sensing: can now 'track' people through visions by sensing their emotions (mix of a WL and an Empath).
- develops resilience to energy/fireballs because powers come from emotions. She is able to 'lessen' the power's effect on her. The way I would portray this is that the others would still sustain burns and wounds from fire/energy balls, but Phoebe would simply be thrown back, perhaps with a minor abrasion. 

Season Five
- Can more readily predict the future without visions (like Kyra the Seer).
- Learns to interact with subjects in her visions, including her future/past selves.
- Learns to plant and share visions/information. 

Seasons Six - Eight
- Develops Empathy which strengths her sensing powers and her resilience to magical attacks.
- She can now completely 'extinguish' fire/energy balls, although she can't redirect them. 
- Enhanced senses/flexibility - Phoebe and ONLY Phoebe would be able to do things like throw athames at demons and kill them - a much underestimated and overused skill in the show. 
- Learns the Advanced Empathy power from 'Morality Bites' but rarely uses it offensively.


Paige ('the power to move things with the mind'):

Season Four
- Can 'call' for inanimate objects and also offensive magical powers.

Season Five
- Can 'banish' objects (like when she would say 'Home' and send someone back to the Manor). 

Season Six
- Learns to teleport, whether it be via orbing or a witch-based teleportation. 

Season Seven & Eight
- Learns to 'throw' demons with her powers and, more generally, a slicker control of the movement aspect of her power.
- Greater control of the distance of calling/banishing.
- Learns to teleport things non-verbally. 

[Melinda Halliwell]

Dec 19, 2014 21:30:39 GMT -5 @deano said:

I like what you guys are talking about in terms of the introduction of new powers. It reminds me of an idea I posted a while ago, which was that each sister's 'power' would stay the same, but come to include many advancements/abilities. So, something like this:

Prue ('the power to move things with the mind'):

Season One
- Optically-controlled Telekinesis
- Hand-controlled Telekinesis

Season Two
- Greater control over range of movement and weight of objects/persons. 
- Telekinetically enhanced strength (i.e. stronger punches and kicks).

Season Three
- Telekinetically enhanced agility (principally meaning her gravity-defying acrobatics).
- Advanced Telekinesis (the 'Morality Bites' power, but in a much less destructive form, I have something like Shax's power in mind). 


Piper ('the power to decrease speed'):

Season One
- The 'decelerating' power that P. Baxter had would be how Piper's power first manifested itself.
- Control of 're-accelerating'/'un-slowing' (basically the unfreezing). 

Season Two
- Improved control of speed of the deceleration (ex. she can decide whether to slow someone down by a minute or an hour).
- Towards the end of the season she learns to freeze things completely or 'immobilise' them as originally on the show.

Season Three 
- Gains control over her 'slowing' and 'freezing'.
- Learns to incorporate both powers together (i.e. can freeze one demon and slow down another simultaneously). 

Season Four
- Learns to selectively 'unslow'/'unfreeze' specific body parts/people in a group.
- Ice-Freezing/Inhibition (the power she had as a warlock, increased 'freezing' of molecules so they begin to lose heat and crystallise).

Season Five
- Full control over her three separate abilities.
- Learns to selectively 'ice-freeze'.
- Scope, range and length of time of all her abilities increase.
 
Seasons Six - Eight
- Can accelerate the ice-freezing process so fast that demons begin to melt away soon after being frozen. 
- Can 'un-ice' people as well. 


Phoebe ('the power to perceive the unperceivable/clairvoyance'):

Season One
- Visions of the future (premonition)
- Visions of the past (retrocognition)
- Tactile 'calling' of a premonition
- Can detect time shifts

Season Two
- Can establish links with demons and other psychics (e.g. the Succubus). 
- Begins to feel the emotions of those in her visions.

Season Three
- Enhanced intuition (can 'read' people in basic form, can tell if they're lying/concealing something). 
- Enhanced perception in battle (e.g. can match centuries-old demons in battle due to her ability to predict their moves seconds before).
- psychic echoes affect her (Bo Lightfeather). 

Season Four
- Sensing: can now 'track' people through visions by sensing their emotions (mix of a WL and an Empath).
- develops resilience to energy/fireballs because powers come from emotions. She is able to 'lessen' the power's effect on her.

Season Five
- Can more readily predict the future without visions (like Kyra the Seer).
- Learns to interact with subjects in her visions, including her future/past selves.
- Learns to plant and share visions/information. 

Seasons Six - Eight
- Develops Empathy which strengths her sensing powers and her resilience to magical attacks.
- She can now completely 'extinguish' fire/energy balls, although she can't redirect them. 
- Enhanced senses/flexibility - Phoebe and ONLY Phoebe would be able to do things like throw athames at demons and kills them - a much underestimated and overused skill in the show. 
- Learns the Advanced Empathy power from 'Morality Bites' but rarely uses it offensively.


Paige ('the power to move things with the mind'):

Season Four
- Can 'call' for inanimate objects and also offensive magical powers.

Season Five
- Can 'banish' objects (like when she would say 'Home' and send someone back to the Manor). 

Season Six
- Learns to teleport, whether it be via orbing or a witch-based teleportation. 

Season Seven & Eight
- Learns to 'throw' demons with her powers and, more generally, a slicker control of the movement aspect of her power.
- Greater control of the distance of calling/banishing.
- Learns to teleport things non-verbally. 

These are all good ideas Deano as long as it didn't make the Charmed Ones invincible where they didn't need the P03 to vanquish evil most the time after Piper got her blowing up power originally then i'd be alright with them.

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Dec 20, 2014 5:16:25 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

These are all good ideas Deano as long as it didn't make the Charmed Ones invincible where they didn't need the P03 to vanquish evil most the time after Piper got her blowing up power originally then i'd be alright with them. 

Thanks. Well, I tried to make it so no sister could become Super Witch, which is why I've kept Piper's power in the 'deceleration' lane, instead of it growing to include 'acceleration'. Her 'ice-freezing' would still be offensive, but she'd still need another sister to kill the demon/warlock (like she and Phoebe did in 'Bride and Gloom' by kicking Leo and Zile's frozen bodies). 

Also, I took away Phoebe's empathic ability to redirect energy/fireballs/telekinesis as that also made her too powerful. I just kept the 'resistance' aspect of Empathy for her, but not the power-channeling.

It goes without saying, I got rid of all Paige's ridiculously unnecessary Whitelighter powers, like healing, hovering, photokinesis and glamouring. And finally, I reduced Prue's advanced TK power from its Morality Bites form, which was basically a mix of Telekinesis and Molecular Combustion. Plus, she'd probably only have the power for the latter half of Season 3 anyway, if it were up to me.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Yeah Paige didn't need all those whitelighter powers in my opinion except orbing, healing and sensing when she had her charges. The other two powers which would've been useful also that of being cloaking and speaking a charges language Paige could done via a spell and so wouldn't have needed the whitelighter powers for them anyway.

I wouldn't have minded Phoebe channeling powers if she didn't vanquish evil on the first go and it took her 3-4 attempts before that happened through the enemy dodging whatever power was thrown back at it or counteracting that however although I wasn't overly keen on it because of it's similarity to Paiges TKO and the fact I prefeered empathy being emotional based only.

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Dec 21, 2014 22:52:14 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

Yeah Paige didn't need all those whitelighter powers in my opinion except orbing, healing and sensing when she had her charges. The other two powers which would've been useful also that of being cloaking and speaking a charges language Paige could done via a spell and so wouldn't have needed the whitelighter powers for them anyway.

I wouldn't have minded Phoebe channeling powers if she didn't vanquish evil on the first go and it took her 3-4 attempts before that happened through the enemy dodging whatever power was thrown back at it or counteracting that however although I wasn't overly keen on it because of it's similarity to Paiges TKO and the fact I prefeered empathy being emotional based only.

I wouldn't even allow her to have healing or sensing, to be honest. I didn't want her to have charges. The only reason I'd like her to orb is because it relates to her power to 'move things with her mind'. Yeah, that's why I didn't like Phoebe's power-channeling, because it just looked like Telekinesis. Another possibility would be if she was hit by a fireball, for instance, she could 'absorb' it into her body and throw it back from her own hand, as if her body was a deflective shield. But she'd only be able to 'bounce back the power' not continue to use it. 

But really, I much prefer her to just to be able to 'resist' offensive powers, and eventually be able to disable them before they hit her. 

[ljones]

Paige: Telekinetic Orbing and Hyper Speed

Ah, teleportation and hyper speed. Now, I understand.

[charmedhybrid]

Prue: Telekinesis and Cryokinesis
I think these two powers would have fit Prue very well at the time Bc she was kind of cold hearted to people at first.
At first she would have Telekinesis that eventually would advance into Psychokinesis, and a Telekinetic Blast (like in morality bites)
Cryokinesis would be like her past life could do at first but eventually she would be able to create spikes or bolts of ice.

Piper: Molecular Deceleration and Acceleration
I think Piper would have been more fitted to be able to slow down molecules at first like her past life was able to which would then progress to being able to completely stop them and eventually being selective with it.
I would like her to be able to Speed up the molecules but only to the point of melting or burning and not blowing them up. This aspect of her power fits well with her career as cook since she can use it to help her with cooking her food.

Phoebe: Premonition and Empathy
I would keep these the same as they were in the show. The only difference is I would have Phoebe able to actively call a premonition and for her empathy I would give her the channeling powers for but I would like in the Valhalla episode where she would have to be hit with the power first before she can use it against them like she did with Piper, but this aspect of the power would be taxing on her so she would be able to use it continuously though.

Paige: Orb Shield and Telekinetic Orbing
I would change the power of Telekinetic Orbing to make it like Apportation. Since this was originally what the power suppose to be. Eventually she be able to use Telekinesis but only in its basic form. I also liked the idea of her getting the Orb Shield but I would like her to eventually be able to create multiple Shields, use it the shield more offensively like being to crush something or someone or expand in someone or something to blow it up. I would like her to be able to also use the shield as another form of the crystal cage to help contain someone or something inside of it or within a room or building.

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Dec 27, 2014 14:56:08 GMT -5 charmedhybrid said:

Prue: Telekinesis and Cryokinesis
I think these two powers would have fit Prue very well at the time Bc she was kind of cold hearted to people at first.
At first she would have Telekinesis that eventually would advance into Psychokinesis, and a Telekinetic Blast (like in morality bites)
Cryokinesis would be like her past life could do at first but eventually she would be able to create spikes or bolts of ice.

Piper: Molecular Deceleration and Acceleration

I think Piper would have been more fitted to be able to slow down molecules at first like her past life was able to which would then progress to being able to completely stop them and eventually being selective with it.

I would like her to be able to Speed up the molecules but only to the point of melting or burning and not blowing them up. This aspect of her power fits well with her career as cook since she can use it to help her with cooking her food.

Phoebe: Premonition and Empathy

I would keep these the same as they were in the show. The only difference is I would have Phoebe able to actively call a premonition and for her empathy I would give her the channeling powers for but I would like in the Valhalla episode where she would have to be hit with the power first before she can use it against them like she did with Piper, but this aspect of the power would be taxing on her so she would be able to use it continuously though.

Paige: Orb Shield and Telekinetic Orbing

I would change the power of Telekinetic Orbing to make it like Apportation. Since this was originally what the power suppose to be. Eventually she be able to use Telekinesis but only in its basic form. I also liked the idea of her getting the Orb Shield but I would like her to eventually be able to create multiple Shields, use it the shield more offensively like being to crush something or someone or expand in someone or something to blow it up. I would like her to be able to also use the shield as another form of the crystal cage to help contain someone or something inside of it or within a room or building.

Hi thanks for your ideas, they look interesting. 

I always like their powers to have some sort of thread between them but, as I've discussed with others before, if they were granted additional powers based on natural skill/personality, then Cryokinesis would indeed suit Prue well, plus it's a good connection to her past life, as you pointed out. 

I like the Acceleration part of Piper's power being able to melt/burn rather than explode, it makes her a little less of a one-woman vanquishing machine. 

I also totally agree that Phoebe should indeed have to be HIT by a power before she can channel it, rather than being able to redirect fireballs constantly. 

Paige should've gotten the Orb Shield power instead of Wyatt, to make her more witch-like, instead of a total WL.

[Astral Alex]

Some really interesting ideas on here now. I've been rewatching for a couple of months and I'm currently up to Season Six, it annoyed me so much that Piper would use her exploding power at times when her freezing power would probably have given her a better result - e.g oncoming energy balls etc. there is an instance where she blows one up and sends herself and her sisters flying, why not just freeze it and have Paige deflect it? Lazy writing, eugh.

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Jan 5, 2015 14:30:15 GMT -5 Astral Alex said:

Some really interesting ideas on here now. I've been rewatching for a couple of months and I'm currently up to Season Six, it annoyed me so much that Piper would use her exploding power at times when her freezing power would probably have given her a better result - e.g oncoming energy balls etc. there is an instance where she blows one up and sends herself and her sisters flying, why not just freeze it and have Paige deflect it? Lazy writing, eugh.

Totally agree, I share your frustrations about Piper's exploding power. I think you might be talking about their battle with the Triad at Magic School - One of them demons threw a fireball, which Piper exploded and it sent them all flying. 

[adzpower]

I feel like they all should have had a set of powers based on their original abilities.
Prue's should have focused solely on movement and deflection, Piper's on molecules, and Phoebe's on seeing and feeling.

Prue - Telekinesis (offensive), deflection (defensive) and cloning (protective)
Piper - Freezing (defensive), exploding (offensive) and phasing (protective)
Phoebe - Premonition (protective), Empathy (defensive) and psychic reflection (offensive)

Prue's telekinesis would evolve into deflection, like the witch Eames killed, and then into cloning herself into multiple Prue's to get the upper hand and confused enemies.
Piper needed to start with a defensive power to suit her timid nature early on, then evolved into something offensive to suit her growing confidence, and then after Prue died she would feel the need to feel protected so would develop phasing, altering the molecules of solid object to walk through them.
Phoebe needed guidance in her life at first so premonition made sense, as she grew more mature she would develop empathy and use it for her work and for defending against evil powers, then finally she'd get the offensive power she had in the future to kill the baseball power.

This way they all get an offensive power, a defensive power and a protective power each, they just develop them in different orders based on their first power and their personality.

I guess Paige's would have been a little different because of her whitelighter half.
Paige - Tele-orbing (offensive), orbing (defensive), healing (protective)

That way she also gets an offensive, defensive and protective power.

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Jan 31, 2015 18:57:36 GMT -5 adzpower said:

I feel like they all should have had a set of powers based on their original abilities.
Prue's should have focused solely on movement and deflection, Piper's on molecules, and Phoebe's on seeing and feeling.

Prue - Telekinesis (offensive), deflection (defensive) and cloning (protective)
Piper - Freezing (defensive), exploding (offensive) and phasing (protective)
Phoebe - Premonition (protective), Empathy (defensive) and psychic reflection (offensive)

Prue's telekinesis would evolve into deflection, like the witch Eames killed, and then into cloning herself into multiple Prue's to get the upper hand and confused enemies.
Piper needed to start with a defensive power to suit her timid nature early on, then evolved into something offensive to suit her growing confidence, and then after Prue died she would feel the need to feel protected so would develop phasing, altering the molecules of solid object to walk through them.
Phoebe needed guidance in her life at first so premonition made sense, as she grew more mature she would develop empathy and use it for her work and for defending against evil powers, then finally she'd get the offensive power she had in the future to kill the baseball power.

This way they all get an offensive power, a defensive power and a protective power each, they just develop them in different orders based on their first power and their personality.

I guess Paige's would have been a little different because of her whitelighter half.
Paige - Tele-orbing (offensive), orbing (defensive), healing (protective)

That way she also gets an offensive, defensive and protective power.

I like your idea of Prue getting deflection, as it's similar to my idea of giving her an energy wave-type power. I'm not exactly sure how cloning would fit into her power though?

For a long time I liked the idea of Piper getting phasing, after her exploding power, but I worry it would make her basically indestructible. I agree completely with your Phoebe powers, it's basically the same as what I'd do.

It all boils down to whether one prefers to have each sister have a 'offensive, defensive, supportive' set or whether each sister fulfills one of these roles each. I find this difficult because,  for example, I didn't really think Paige should get healing power as it made her too much of a WL. But she did kind of take over Piper's old 'defensive/resourceful' role (whilst Piper took on Prue's 'offensive' role) so it would make sense. Phoebe is easier, because she's always the 'supportive' role. 

[Melinda Halliwell]

Unless when adzpower commented on Prue getting cloaning she meant as an advanced form of astral projection maybe where both Prue's were around at the same time.

[adzpower]

Feb 6, 2015 12:26:44 GMT -5 @deano said:

Jan 31, 2015 18:57:36 GMT -5 adzpower said:

I feel like they all should have had a set of powers based on their original abilities.
Prue's should have focused solely on movement and deflection, Piper's on molecules, and Phoebe's on seeing and feeling.

Prue - Telekinesis (offensive), deflection (defensive) and cloning (protective)
Piper - Freezing (defensive), exploding (offensive) and phasing (protective)
Phoebe - Premonition (protective), Empathy (defensive) and psychic reflection (offensive)

Prue's telekinesis would evolve into deflection, like the witch Eames killed, and then into cloning herself into multiple Prue's to get the upper hand and confused enemies.
Piper needed to start with a defensive power to suit her timid nature early on, then evolved into something offensive to suit her growing confidence, and then after Prue died she would feel the need to feel protected so would develop phasing, altering the molecules of solid object to walk through them.
Phoebe needed guidance in her life at first so premonition made sense, as she grew more mature she would develop empathy and use it for her work and for defending against evil powers, then finally she'd get the offensive power she had in the future to kill the baseball power.

This way they all get an offensive power, a defensive power and a protective power each, they just develop them in different orders based on their first power and their personality.

I guess Paige's would have been a little different because of her whitelighter half.
Paige - Tele-orbing (offensive), orbing (defensive), healing (protective)

That way she also gets an offensive, defensive and protective power.

I like your idea of Prue getting deflection, as it's similar to my idea of giving her an energy wave-type power. I'm not exactly sure how cloning would fit into her power though?

For a long time I liked the idea of Piper's getting phasing, after her exploding power, but I worry it would make her basically indestructible. I agree completely with your Phoebe powers, it's basically the same as what I'd do.

It all boils down to whether one prefers to have each sister have a 'offensive, defensive, supportive' set or whether each sister fulfills one of these roles each. I find this difficult because,  for example, I didn't really think she could healing power as it made her too much of a WL. But she did kind of take over Piper's old 'defensive/resourceful' role (whilst Piper took on Prue's 'offensive' role) so it would make sense. Phoebe is easier, because she's always the 'supportive' role.

Well I thought instead of her having astral projection they could just combine it with the cloning power, have her astral project multiple clones, so she could "move" herself to different areas and cover more ground when it came to demon fights.
Yeah Piper would be pretty invincible with that power set, maybe we could swap out phasing for something else to do with molecules. Maybe something to do with temperature? Like actually freezing stuff with ice and then heating things up so they melt, like a combination of her first two powers basically.
I feel like they should have one power each (one offensive, one defensive etc), because even though they work best as a team, there were several cases where they had to work on their own or with one sister down, so in the eventuality of say Phoebe coming up against a powerful demon on her own, she could at least still deflect their power or use her psychic reflection on them. That way Phoebe isn't stuck fighting a demon by herself with nothing to do but will a premonition at it or some other non-active power. Making them all formidable in their own way at least.
And with Paige I did think maybe having healing would sway her more towards a whitelighter, but with Leo becoming mortal, and the fact that Paige also had the basic witchy powers of spellcasting/potions etc, I figure in order to balance her power set out it would be ok if she had healing.

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Feb 6, 2015 16:25:23 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Feb 6, 2015 12:26:44 GMT -5 @deano said:

I like your idea of Prue getting deflection, as it's similar to my idea of giving her an energy wave-type power. I'm not exactly sure how cloning would fit into her power though?

For a long time I liked the idea of Piper's getting phasing, after her exploding power, but I worry it would make her basically indestructible. I agree completely with your Phoebe powers, it's basically the same as what I'd do.

It all boils down to whether one prefers to have each sister have a 'offensive, defensive, supportive' set or whether each sister fulfills one of these roles each. I find this difficult because,  for example, I didn't really think she could healing power as it made her too much of a WL. But she did kind of take over Piper's old 'defensive/resourceful' role (whilst Piper took on Prue's 'offensive' role) so it would make sense. Phoebe is easier, because she's always the 'supportive' role.

Well I thought instead of her having astral projection they could just combine it with the cloning power, have her astral project multiple clones, so she could "move" herself to different areas and cover more ground when it came to demon fights.
Yeah Piper would be pretty invincible with that power set, maybe we could swap out phasing for something else to do with molecules. Maybe something to do with temperature? Like actually freezing stuff with ice and then heating things up so they melt, like a combination of her first two powers basically.

I feel like they should have one power each (one offensive, one defensive etc), because even though they work best as a team, there were several cases where they had to work on their own or with one sister down, so in the eventuality of say Phoebe coming up against a powerful demon on her own, she could at least still deflect their power or use her psychic reflection on them. That way Phoebe isn't stuck fighting a demon by herself with nothing to do but will a premonition at it or some other non-active power. Making them all formidable in their own way at least.

And with Paige I did think maybe having healing would sway her more towards a whitelighter, but with Leo becoming mortal, and the fact that Paige also had the basic witchy powers of spellcasting/potions etc, I figure in order to balance her power set out it would be ok if she had healing.

I see. It probably WOULD have been better to give Prue straight up cloning, rather than astral projection, as the way she used AP wasn't really what AP is. I thought Rex's and Barbas' display of the power was more accurate. Personally, I always felt the explanation for her getting AP was flimsy anyway. I mean, you could basically twist 'movement' into the explanation of any power if you really wanted to. Which is why I thought Levitation would've suited Prue better, as she would physically be moving herself. That's just me though.

Actually, seeing as you mention temperature powers, I've been thinking of Piper getting Cryokinesis lately. My explanation would be that her power has grown to allow her to slow down/stop the molecules of the water vapour in the air, thus literally producing ice out of thin air. But I'm not sure if this credible. Also, this would be more my preference if they'd kept their powers as 'progressions', rather than 'new powers'. If we were talking in terms of 'new powers', I'd probably still give Piper Freezing and Cryokinesis, but I really struggle with a third power.
I'm not keen on her having melting/combustive powers. Not sure why, I just always prefer the idea of her powers staying in the slowing/freezing lane. And I don't see much point in her having Combustion and Cryokinesis. 

I agree with you to an extent, but I do constantly flip back and forth between 'one role per sister' and 'three different powers for each' because, as we're constantly discussing on here, it ends up that each sister becomes Super Witch if she has 'one offensive, one defensive and one supportive' and takes all the fun out of their collective fighting/sisterly teamwork. But I do agree, that each sister still needs to be able to handle herself alone. This is why I'd prefer to keep their powers in a "progression lane" rather than have them develop "new powers", so it looks more natural. 

I thought of:

Prue: Telekinesis, Levitation, Energy Waving.
Piper: Slowing (P. Baxter's power), Freezing, Cryokinesis/Inhibition. 
Phoebe: Premonition, Enhanced Perception (to complement her martial arts), Empathy (principally for high resistance to magical attack, channeling powers and the Morality Bites incarnation of the power). 
Paige: Telekinetic Orbing (Calling), Telekinetic Orbing (Summoning), Telekinetic Orbing (Throwing), Orbing.

This way they can all take care of themselves without being some ridiculous superhero.  
 
What do you think?

[ljones]

They certainly became more magically independent as the show progressed, which is fine. It had to happen eventually and is actually a good thing. The problem, for me, is that they became magically separate and started doing the magic thing as individuals not as a unit.


Strangely, they seemed to become co-dependent in ways that they weren't in the earlier seasons.

I have no problems with the sisters "doing the magic thing" as individuals. They can't be together 24/7 always. And there are times when they're going to be in situations in which they have no one else to depend upon but themselves. Dealing with magic individually should be good practice for them, in case they find themselves in such situations.


I also noticed that these numerous discussions about the sisters' abilities seemed to focus more on their psychic abilities and less on their spell casting and potions, which I find a little restrictive.

[adzpower]

Feb 14, 2015 12:24:51 GMT -5 @deano said:

Feb 6, 2015 16:25:23 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Well I thought instead of her having astral projection they could just combine it with the cloning power, have her astral project multiple clones, so she could "move" herself to different areas and cover more ground when it came to demon fights.
Yeah Piper would be pretty invincible with that power set, maybe we could swap out phasing for something else to do with molecules. Maybe something to do with temperature? Like actually freezing stuff with ice and then heating things up so they melt, like a combination of her first two powers basically.

I feel like they should have one power each (one offensive, one defensive etc), because even though they work best as a team, there were several cases where they had to work on their own or with one sister down, so in the eventuality of say Phoebe coming up against a powerful demon on her own, she could at least still deflect their power or use her psychic reflection on them. That way Phoebe isn't stuck fighting a demon by herself with nothing to do but will a premonition at it or some other non-active power. Making them all formidable in their own way at least.

And with Paige I did think maybe having healing would sway her more towards a whitelighter, but with Leo becoming mortal, and the fact that Paige also had the basic witchy powers of spellcasting/potions etc, I figure in order to balance her power set out it would be ok if she had healing.

I see. It probably WOULD have been better to give Prue straight up cloning, rather than astral projection, as the way she used AP wasn't really what AP is. I thought Rex's and Barbas' display of the power was more accurate. Personally, I always felt the explanation for her getting AP was flimsy anyway. I mean, you could basically twist 'movement' into the explanation of any power if you really wanted to. Which is why I thought Levitation would've suited Prue better, as she would physically be moving herself. That's just me though.

Actually, seeing as you mention temperature powers, I've been thinking of Piper getting Cryokinesis lately. My explanation would be that her power has grown to allow her to slow down/stop the molecules of the water vapour in the air, thus literally producing ice out of thin air. But I'm not sure if this credible. Also, this would be more my preference if they'd kept their powers as 'progressions', rather than 'new powers'. If we were talking in terms of 'new powers', I'd probably still give Piper Freezing and Cryokinesis, but I really struggle with a third power.
I'm not keen on her having melting/combustive powers. Not sure why, I just always prefer the idea of her powers staying in the slowing/freezing lane. And I don't see much point in her having Combustion and Cryokinesis. 

I agree with you to an extent, but I do constantly flip back and forth between 'one role per sister' and 'three different powers for each' because, as we're constantly discussing on here, it ends up that each sister becomes Super Witch if she has 'one offensive, one defensive and one supportive' and takes all the fun out of their collective fighting/sisterly teamwork. But I do agree, that each sister still needs to be able to handle herself alone. This is why I'd prefer to keep their powers in a "progression lane" rather than have them develop "new powers", so it looks more natural. 

I thought of:

Prue: Telekinesis, Levitation, Energy Waving.
Piper: Slowing (P. Baxter's power), Freezing, Cryokinesis/Inhibition. 
Phoebe: Premonition, Enhanced Perception (to complement her martial arts), Empathy (principally for high resistance to magical attack, channeling powers and the Morality Bites incarnation of the power). 
Paige: Telekinetic Orbing (Calling), Telekinetic Orbing (Summoning), Telekinetic Orbing (Throwing), Orbing.

This way they can all take care of themselves without being some ridiculous superhero.  
 
What do you think?

Yeah, I like a lot of your ideas actually, especially for Paige, her having multiple ways to use her telekinetic orbing sounds good, and Phoebe as well, her powers fit and and seem to grow quite naturally in your example.
Still I'm a bit iffy on Prue, I feel like her having telekinesis and energy waving would make her really over-powered - essentially the same problem Piper has once we look at my original example, and whilst Levitation fits into Prue's theme of movement, I don't really see how the character of Prue could have made use of such a power, even without levitation she could jump into the air and kick ass. Maybe Prue could have had a form of teleportation, not the way they portrayed astral projection and not orbing, but a new, witch version of travel, or heck, maybe super-speed? That's would give her a lot more movement and would allow her to get to places quickly.

[Melinda Halliwell]

But super speeds a molecular type power so that would suit Piper more.

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Feb 14, 2015 14:54:37 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Yeah, I like a lot of your ideas actually, especially for Paige, her having multiple ways to use her telekinetic orbing sounds good, and Phoebe as well, her powers fit and and seem to grow quite naturally in your example.
Still I'm a bit iffy on Prue, I feel like her having telekinesis and energy waving would make her really over-powered - essentially the same problem Piper has once we look at my original example, and whilst Levitation fits into Prue's theme of movement, I don't really see how the character of Prue could have made use of such a power, even without levitation she could jump into the air and kick behind. Maybe Prue could have had a form of teleportation, not the way they portrayed astral projection and not orbing, but a new, witch version of travel, or heck, maybe super-speed? That's would give her a lot more movement and would allow her to get to places quickly.

Thanks. I tried to 'spread out' Paige's TKO power a bit (mainly because I can't think of more ways to advance it) so she would start of just being able to 'call' for things in her direct line of vision, then summon things to her (like the Ring of Inspiration), then to use it defensive (redirecting fireballs in mid-air, without calling for them first), sending/banishing things somewhere (like she did a few times in S7) and finally using it to 'throw' demons/simulate telekinesis like she did in S8 once or twice. I'd also would have liked her to learn to use her power non-verbally as well.

I definitely wouldn't give Prue a 'blasting' power on the level of the type she had in 'Morality Bites', that would be ridiculous, even more so than Piper's exploding power. I think I'd have it be more similar to Shax's power, even though that is still pretty strong. Ideally, it would look most like the power Goddess-Piper used against Chris, more of a 'ripple' and less 'blast-like' in appearance. She wouldn't have to do it all the time, but perhaps just as a 'special occasion' sort of thing. Either that or she could have forcefields or deflection, which are similar powers, but less lethal? 

I think Levitation would suit Prue well as she did use her TK to jump and do flips in S3 (as did Billie in S8) so it would really just be an extension of that. I'm a bit 50/50 on teleportation, similar because it became such an overused power. I think I'd prefer she had cloning power, like you originally suggested. 

Feb 14, 2015 16:05:57 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

But super speeds a molecular type power so that would suit Piper more.

Good point actually. In fact, Piper could perhaps have Freezing, Cryokinesis and then Hyper Speed, if we were giving them three separate powers. I wouldn't mind it for Prue either though, so long as they could find some way to explain it credibly. 

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Prue:
Telekinesis and Astral Projection: I always thought both these powers were just fine for Prue.

Piper:
If you go with time manipulation (which I think they originally were) then Freezing and Limited Rewind
If you go with molecules then Freezing and Blasting (no single handed vanquishes, she was way overpowered)

Phoebe:
Premonition and Empathy (ditch Levitation)

Paige (if she exists):
Apportation and Force Field