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Post by Nimue on Dec 20, 2015 12:58:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry for starting a thread about this, but I really have no idea where else to post this. What is coming up is a rant, and I'm sorry about that (I seem to do nothing but rant these days, and not just about Charmed, either): I DO NOT, under any circumstance, want a movie continuation featuring the four sisters and their kids, or even a movie that starts up after season 3 or 8 and treats the show differently. I want a reboot, right now and not in ten, fifteen years. I want a reboot that would fix things, that would take the ideas of the original show and treat them differently, present things under a different angle. I want new actors, new sets, new stories... I want good writing, the kind I can smile at and make me feel happy to like the show, not the kind that makes me bang my head against the wall and makes me feel a little ashamed for liking it. I'm tired of feeling that way. I don't understand why people want a movie, a movie that would just feature the same actors, with the same bad ideas of the show, I want to start over new and fresh. The later seasons of Charmed were so bad that a reboot cannot possibly mess things up, it can just be a serious improvement. Why do people want to wait for that to happen? So they can keep venting out their frustrations about the original show? Do people really enjoy doing that? I don't think so, but I'm starting to seriously ask myself the question... I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, like I said before, I'm tired of feeling like I'm in the minority.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Dec 20, 2015 13:46:53 GMT -5
Can't remember the last time I talked about a reboot or even what I said or thought then, but you've got a damn good point. Venting frustrations about the original show can get pretty tiring on its own and a reboot by a team that's truly dedicated to making sure it's a success would do a great deal of justice. It's why I've noticed that more than a fair share of the venting at least from most of us here also contains a healthy dose of "here's what they could've/should've done that would've been better". You know, coming up with new ideas or tweaking the ideas we've already seen with the idea that it would've brought back or retained some of the cohesion, continuity, creative storytelling, and/or moral common sense that the show lost from its roots over time.
As far as the reboot goes, I think the first real reservations I can think of off the top of my head are will it keep the original premise of three sisters who happen to be witches, and will it pick proper leads that can fill it comparably well to how the original three did early on? The number one thing I dig about how Charmed picked its leads is that the sisters all appeared as grown young women. They were mid-twenties ladies, all out of college (Phoebe ended up going back a couple times, yes) and in the early stages of leading grown-up lives, and they didn't look like they could just as easily be playing teenagers. If the reboot books ladies that could easily pass for teens, whether they're given adult roles or not, it's gonna reek of "The Younger and Hipper Version!" and that's automatically gonna add a stigma, especially with original fans who are particularly hung up about the Billie and Chris debacles.
Yes, The Flash went from John Wesley Shipp to babyface Grant Gustin as its lead. He's one guy, with a stable cast of people around him; the storyline explains why we have such a young-looking Flash now by portraying that Eobard Thawne messed up the timeline on purpose; and the split between the end of Shipp's series and the start of Gustin's is 23 years. We're talking about three sisters*, who the original show played as the only true stable constants in each other's lives aside from Leo and Darryl (the latter until season 8), and it's only five months short of a decade since the end of Charmed. I'm not saying a reboot is destined to fail if it goes the "Youth Movement" route; with good enough showrunners, writers, and actors, anything can be awesome. Just that it'll be extra growing pains to adjust to and might be a bit of an initial turnoff.
*–for simplicity's sake, this is not getting into the semantics of the whole Prue and Paige stuff
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2015 14:05:42 GMT -5
I'm sorry for starting a thread about this, but I really have no idea where else to post this. What is coming up is a rant, and I'm sorry about that (I seem to do nothing but rant these days, and not just about Charmed, either): I DO NOT, under any circumstance, want a movie continuation featuring the four sisters and their kids, or even a movie that starts up after season 3 or 8 and treats the show differently. I want a reboot, right now and not in ten, fifteen years. I want a reboot that would fix things, that would take the ideas of the original show and treat them differently, present things under a different angle. I want new actors, new sets, new stories... I want good writing, the kind I can smile at and make me feel happy to like the show, not the kind that makes me bang my head against the wall and makes me feel a little ashamed for liking it. I'm tired of feeling that way. I don't understand why people want a movie, a movie that would just feature the same actors, with the same bad ideas of the show, I want to start over new and fresh. The later seasons of Charmed were so bad that a reboot cannot possibly mess things up, it can just be a serious improvement. Why do people want to wait for that to happen? So they can keep venting out their frustrations about the original show? Do people really enjoy doing that? I don't think so, but I'm starting to seriously ask myself the question... I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, like I said before, I'm tired of feeling like I'm in the minority. I truly can see your point, but unfortunately I can't agree. The main reason why I can't is because I don't think the ones who could do the reboot properly are part of the team who has charge of "Charmed" right now. If Paul Ruditis still was, I'd be the first to say - GO FOR IT!!! Let him have a chance of starting it all over and see what he can do with it and them. But CBS and whoever is in charge of Spelling Inc seems to like Pat Shand's vision of Charmed and I'm afraid those would be the sisters we'd be stuck with in a reboot. Different names, different actors, different sets, but *those* characters, and those I don't want. No, I want a totally different show, not called Charmed so it's not compared with them, but totally different set up (also nothing like Buffy or any other supernatural show out there) with characters we don't know and don't have any previous perceptions of, so if they don't act just like Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige, we won't be upset. That's the main reason I still think an actual reboot of Charmed (with those names or with a similar setup) should wait for another 10-15 years. Especially when fantastic fanfics and virtual series keep popping up, written by fans who know and love the show and all of the characters, unlike Pat Shand who just loves Cole and whose vision we're being stuck with and whose vision we would be stuck with if a reboot got started, and can do them right, I truly hope there is no such movie or show outside of the Lifetime Unauthorized Biography - which I don't expect to be accurate, but I do expect to be interesting. |
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Post by Nimue on Dec 20, 2015 14:36:56 GMT -5
I'm sorry for starting a thread about this, but I really have no idea where else to post this. What is coming up is a rant, and I'm sorry about that (I seem to do nothing but rant these days, and not just about Charmed, either): I DO NOT, under any circumstance, want a movie continuation featuring the four sisters and their kids, or even a movie that starts up after season 3 or 8 and treats the show differently. I want a reboot, right now and not in ten, fifteen years. I want a reboot that would fix things, that would take the ideas of the original show and treat them differently, present things under a different angle. I want new actors, new sets, new stories... I want good writing, the kind I can smile at and make me feel happy to like the show, not the kind that makes me bang my head against the wall and makes me feel a little ashamed for liking it. I'm tired of feeling that way. I don't understand why people want a movie, a movie that would just feature the same actors, with the same bad ideas of the show, I want to start over new and fresh. The later seasons of Charmed were so bad that a reboot cannot possibly mess things up, it can just be a serious improvement. Why do people want to wait for that to happen? So they can keep venting out their frustrations about the original show? Do people really enjoy doing that? I don't think so, but I'm starting to seriously ask myself the question... I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, like I said before, I'm tired of feeling like I'm in the minority. I truly can see your point, but unfortunately I can't agree. The main reason why I can't is because I don't think the ones who could do the reboot properly are part of the team who has charge of "Charmed" right now. If Paul Ruditis still was, I'd be the first to say - GO FOR IT!!! Let him have a chance of starting it all over and see what he can do with it and them. But CBS and whoever is in charge of Spelling Inc seems to like Pat Shand's vision of Charmed and I'm afraid those would be the sisters we'd be stuck with in a reboot. Different names, different actors, different sets, but *those* characters, and those I don't want. No, I want a totally different show, not called Charmed so it's not compared with them, but totally different set up (also nothing like Buffy or any other supernatural show out there) with characters we don't know and don't have any previous perceptions of, so if they don't act just like Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige, we won't be upset. That's the main reason I still think an actual reboot of Charmed (with those names or with a similar setup) should wait for another 10-15 years. Especially when fantastic fanfics and virtual series keep popping up, written by fans who know and love the show and all of the characters, unlike Pat Shand who just loves Cole and whose vision we're being stuck with and whose vision we would be stuck with if a reboot got started, and can do them right, I truly hope there is no such movie or show outside of the Lifetime Unauthorized Biography - which I don't expect to be accurate, but I do expect to be interesting.
If it's a completely different show, not called Charmed, with no relation whatsoever to it, then it's not a reboot. A reboot is suppose to have familiar elements from the original in order to be called a reboot. Like I said, the reboot could take certain ideas from the show but put its own spin on it. Such as the names, for example. If we're going with four sisters, they could be called Polly, Pamela "Pam", Pandora "Pandy" or "Dora" and Phoenix Halliwell (or another name in H, maybe Hawthorne?) which would be a nod to the original show (with the P name), but done differently...
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2015 15:22:37 GMT -5
I truly can see your point, but unfortunately I can't agree. The main reason why I can't is because I don't think the ones who could do the reboot properly are part of the team who has charge of "Charmed" right now. If Paul Ruditis still was, I'd be the first to say - GO FOR IT!!! Let him have a chance of starting it all over and see what he can do with it and them. But CBS and whoever is in charge of Spelling Inc seems to like Pat Shand's vision of Charmed and I'm afraid those would be the sisters we'd be stuck with in a reboot. Different names, different actors, different sets, but *those* characters, and those I don't want. No, I want a totally different show, not called Charmed so it's not compared with them, but totally different set up (also nothing like Buffy or any other supernatural show out there) with characters we don't know and don't have any previous perceptions of, so if they don't act just like Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige, we won't be upset. That's the main reason I still think an actual reboot of Charmed (with those names or with a similar setup) should wait for another 10-15 years. Especially when fantastic fanfics and virtual series keep popping up, written by fans who know and love the show and all of the characters, unlike Pat Shand who just loves Cole and whose vision we're being stuck with and whose vision we would be stuck with if a reboot got started, and can do them right, I truly hope there is no such movie or show outside of the Lifetime Unauthorized Biography - which I don't expect to be accurate, but I do expect to be interesting. I'm sure Paul Ruditis isn't the only one who could do it right. If it's a completely different show, not called Charmed, with no relation whatsoever to it, then it's not a reboot. A reboot is suppose to have familiar elements from the original in order to be called a reboot. Like I said, the reboot could take certain ideas from the show but put its own spin on it. Such as the names, for example. If we're going with four sisters, they could be called Polly, Pamela "Pam", Pandora "Pandy" or "Dora" and Phoenix Halliwell (or another name in H, maybe Hawthorne?) which would be a nod to the original show (with the P name), but done differently... But these are just my opinions. No, with Pat Shand now slated to do the next e-book which takes place before Season 10, so he can obviously fix all of Paul Ruditis' "mistakes" and set up his version of Charmed in S10, he's obviously who would be in charge of any such reboot. You'd still have a Phoebe character who would fall in love with a Cole character and it would be all about them with the others just extras, the way Phoebe and Paige were to Piper and her family in S5-8. I understand what a reboot is and as long as Pat Shand is the one in charge of writing it, I don't want one. Naturally Phole fans would ADORE it...so it's probably what we'll get stuck with. Oh, well. It's been fun while it lasted... But that's just *my* opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 15:36:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry for starting a thread about this, but I really have no idea where else to post this. What is coming up is a rant, and I'm sorry about that (I seem to do nothing but rant these days, and not just about Charmed, either): I DO NOT, under any circumstance, want a movie continuation featuring the four sisters and their kids, or even a movie that starts up after season 3 or 8 and treats the show differently. I want a reboot, right now and not in ten, fifteen years. I want a reboot that would fix things, that would take the ideas of the original show and treat them differently, present things under a different angle. I want new actors, new sets, new stories... I want good writing, the kind I can smile at and make me feel happy to like the show, not the kind that makes me bang my head against the wall and makes me feel a little ashamed for liking it. I'm tired of feeling that way. I don't understand why people want a movie, a movie that would just feature the same actors, with the same bad ideas of the show, I want to start over new and fresh. The later seasons of Charmed were so bad that a reboot cannot possibly mess things up, it can just be a serious improvement. Why do people want to wait for that to happen? So they can keep venting out their frustrations about the original show? Do people really enjoy doing that? I don't think so, but I'm starting to seriously ask myself the question... I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, like I said before, I'm tired of feeling like I'm in the minority. I fully agree with you. One only needs to look at this board to see that people have run out of things to talk about. There's a million threads here about powers, or Cole, or Prue's death, or Season 8, or the backstage drama, and they're all laced with the same apathy and negativity. Factor in the perpetually absent Mods, and the site couldn't scream "I don't give a crap" more than that. Even the comics failed to do much to revive the fandom. They were never mainstream enough to begin with, and Pat Shand's disastrous run sealed the deal. Now, Charmed fans have, yet, something else to gripe and moan about. Meanwhile, the rest of the world has long since moved on from Charmed and won't come back outside of the occasional Netflix binge. After almost 10 years, Charmed has largely faded away with little legacy to show for it. It's sad.  |
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Dec 20, 2015 15:57:47 GMT -5
Bolded emphasis mine: No, I want a totally different show, not called Charmed so it's not compared with them, but totally different set up (also nothing like Buffy or any other supernatural show out there) with characters we don't know and don't have any previous perceptions of, so if they don't act just like Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige, we won't be upset.Considering half the recent content here is criticism of the sisters and the direction they were taken in, that's not exactly a surefire turnoff. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2015 17:09:07 GMT -5
Bolded emphasis mine: No, I want a totally different show, not called Charmed so it's not compared with them, but totally different set up (also nothing like Buffy or any other supernatural show out there) with characters we don't know and don't have any previous perceptions of, so if they don't act just like Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige, we won't be upset.Considering half the recent content here is criticism of the sisters and the direction they were taken in, that's not exactly a surefire turnoff. But that's only for the sisters in the alternate universe spin-off - S4-8. Fans would want them to act like the sisters from Season One and not turn into those versions. And with Pat Shand at the wheel, it's almost a guarantee that they would. |
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Post by adzpower on Dec 20, 2015 17:23:31 GMT -5
I think a movie reboot featuring the same cast from the show could work, has anyone seen X-men: Days of Future Past? Essentially they put together this movie to correct the timeline that was started in X-men: The Last Stand, it went in a direction not many fans were happy with, killing off a good number of characters as well as dooming any future storylines the producers could do. So they decided to bring back the old cast and reboot the timeline so that movie never happened. Wolverine went back to the past and stopped an event from happening that put the wheels in motion for the doomed timeline.
Charmed could do something similar, with competent writers I feel it could work, have someone go back in time and stop Prue's death, reset the timeline, introduce Paige and have her be the Charmed Ones whitelighter. Axe the kids. Let Phoebe remain Phoebe and let Piper be her normal self rather than the annoying shrew. Then maybe continue this new timeline on netflix lol. Heck even a book series would do if the movie didn't make much money. It just needs the right team behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 18:31:43 GMT -5
Should this reboot happen, it's very unlikely that either Paul Ruditis or Pat Shand would be in charge of it. These men write novels and comic books, they're not show runners. Totally different medium.
Anyway, I'm in the reboot camp myself. Let's face it, folks, the later seasons really dragged the show down, and the sappy ending of Forever Charmed really ended any good continuation of the story. Paul Ruditis has said that he wishes that ending hadn't happened, and I can't blame him. He went into the comics and e-books with one arm creatively tied behind his back, thanks to FC.
No, the only solution is to wipe the slate clean and start over. New cast playing new characters (and they don't have to be Caucasians). A new setting (but NOT Salem), and a new mythology.
Of course, I'm not against the cast of the original show being involved. Of course, they would be playing different characters, but it would be a nice nod of the head to the original series. This has been done before:
John Wesley Shipp, who played Barry Allen AKA The Flash in the 1990 series, plays Henry Allen, Barry's father, in a recurring role on the current Flash series.
Helen Slater, who played Supergirl in the 1984 movie of the same name, plays the human foster mother of Kara, in the current Supergirl series. Dean Cain, who played Superman in Lois & Clark, plays Kara's human foster father, Jeremiah. Both are recurring roles.
Richard Hatch, who played Apollo in the original Battlestar Galactica series, had a recurring role as Tom Zarick in the Sci-Fi Channel version.
This hypothetical Charmed reboot could do the same thing with the original four ladies.
And Brad Kern is NOT to be involved in any way, shape, or form. Not even the guy who goes out for coffee. He had his chance with Charmed, and we all know how that turned out.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2015 18:49:33 GMT -5
I think a movie reboot featuring the same cast from the show could work, has anyone seen X-men: Days of Future Past? Essentially they put together this movie to correct the timeline that was started in X-men: The Last Stand, it went in a direction not many fans were happy with, killing off a good number of characters as well as dooming any future storylines the producers could do. So they decided to bring back the old cast and reboot the timeline so that movie never happened. Wolverine went back to the past and stopped an event from happening that put the wheels in motion for the doomed timeline. Charmed could do something similar, with competent writers I feel it could work, have someone go back in time and stop Prue's death, reset the timeline, introduce Paige and have her be the Charmed Ones whitelighter. Axe the kids. Let Phoebe remain Phoebe and let Piper be her normal self rather than the annoying shrew. Then maybe continue this new timeline on netflix lol. Heck even a book series would do if the movie didn't make much money. It just needs the right team behind it. That's what I've been asking for since the moment Paige showed up - except WITHOUT Paige - just the original three. I know you wouldn't like that, but truthfully it would be the only way to fix all of the mistakes. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 21:16:36 GMT -5
Sigh... I hear you Nimue. Personally, I've never been keen on a continuation (series or movie). Not to sound ageist, but I couldn't care less about three middle-aged housewives raising their significantly more powerful offspring. The story of the Charmed Ones is done and the only credible reason for a second outing would be for a Prue return. Even still, I can't see any film studio shelling out millions just so Shannen Doherty can make a 'tah-dah' moment and make a relatively niche fanbase smile. Charmed just doesn't have that smash-hit name to draw in the crowds unfortunately.
However, I really, REALLY think a reboot should be made in the near future. It's really frustrating that it was shot dead back in 2013. The main reason I think we need (and deserve) a Charmed reboot is to redress some of the fundamental problems that dragged the original show down. It's nearly 10 years on now, there's been more than enough time to allow the original series ample respect.
I think the best chance a reboot has is to use a different name, but make it clear that it will be an adaptation of the original series. I do think a lot of people will still remember "Charmed" so if a reboot was to use a slightly different name, it may stand a better chance in the first instance. As I say, a reboot would not have the luxury of riding on 'the feels' of its parent series, because it wasn't popular enough: the main reason I think a 'Next Generation' series would fall flat.
Instead, I think respectful "nods" to the original Charmed would be great: same powers, similar mythology etc. I also wouldn't be against any of the original actresses being involved. Perhaps one of them could play the 'Patty' character.
And it goes without saying that any reboot would have to be handled by a competent writing/production staff this time around. I've never read the comics so don't know enough about Paul Ruditis, but even if he only writes comics, I would have more faith in him than Kern, as comic book writers would be very meticulous when it comes to fictional mythology I imagine. I wish someone of Joss Whedon's calibre would take on a reboot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 23:57:45 GMT -5
Sigh... I hear you Nimue. Personally, I've never been keen on a continuation (series or movie). Not to sound ageist, but I couldn't care less about three middle-aged housewives raising their significantly more powerful offspring. The story of the Charmed Ones is done and the only credible reason for a second outing would be for a Prue return. That's how I've always felt about a continuation. "Forever Charmed" didn't really leave anything open to continue the sisters' story, at least not in a way that would be interesting for the vast majority of people. It says a lot when even the comic writers have said that they wished the episode never aired. Even still, I can't see any film studio shelling out millions just so Shannen Doherty can make a 'tah-dah' moment and make a relatively niche fanbase smile. Charmed just doesn't have that smash-hit name to draw in the crowds unfortunately. One thing Charmed fans seem to forget about the Veronica Mars movie is that even though VM was a low-rated cult show, Kristen Bell is an A-list celebrity. She has clout and star power that none of Charmed leads have ever had, so a theatrically-released VM movie could work because of that. Plus, VM was abruptly cancelled without closure, so there was actually something to continue off from. However, I really, REALLY think a reboot should be made in the near future. It's really frustrating that it was shot dead back in 2013. The main reason I think we need (and deserve) a Charmed reboot is to redress some of the fundamental problems that dragged the original show down. It's nearly 10 years on now, there's been more than enough time to allow the original series ample respect. I think the best chance a reboot has is to use a different name, but make it clear that it will be an adaptation of the original series. I do think a lot of people will still remember "Charmed" so if a reboot was to use a slightly different name, it may stand a better chance in the first instance. As I say, a reboot would not have the luxury of riding on 'the feels' of its parent series, because it wasn't popular enough: the main reason I think a 'Next Generation' series would fall flat. Instead, I think respectful "nods" to the original Charmed would be great: same powers, similar mythology etc. I also wouldn't be against any of the original actresses being involved. Perhaps one of them could play the 'Patty' character. And it goes without saying that any reboot would have to be handled by a competent writing/production staff this time around. I've never read the comics so don't know enough about Paul Ruditis, but even if he only writes comics, I would have more faith in him than Kern, as comic book writers would be very meticulous when it comes to fictional mythology I imagine. I wish someone of Joss Whedon's caliper would take on a reboot. That's how I've always felt the reboot should've been handled. Take the premise and nothing else. New characters and new setting, while still paying homage to the original. It's a shame that the idea was killed. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 0:40:25 GMT -5
Yep, thanks to FC, we have the Brady Bunch with magic. No thank you. FC effectively slammed and locked the door on any decent continuation. As I said, I can't blame Paul Ruditis for wishing that damned flash forward had never been written. He had one hand creatively tied behind his back because of that flash forward. One only has to wonder what he would have been able to do had that flash forward had been left on the cutting room floor. Alas, we'll never know
Unless one wants to write about fringe characters like Rex and Hannah, who were not affected by the flash forward, you're screwed.
Plus, Shannen is currently battling breast cancer. I don't think acting is her number one priority anymore.
Yep, as I said, wipe the slate clean and start again. This time avoid the mistakes of the original series (fairy tales, Elders, Avatars, Not!warts, etc).
Make sure that the main people in charge are Generation X (like Joss Whedon or Erik Kripke). Someone who understands the modern audience. The original series was stuck from day one with old dinosaurs like Spelling and Vincent, who instructed the writers to pretend it was still the 1950's.
And, as I have said, how about the sisters being from another ethic background. The era of NBC (Nothing But Caucasians) is long over.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Dec 22, 2015 10:42:53 GMT -5
As for me, I'd like to have seen a reboot or movie if possible. Maybe if only to see how the boys have grown into the men we know. Still there but different. To be honest, we mainly got to know the boys as the next generation and not the others who were introduced as the latest. The original actors could always come back to the new show if there's one, in whatever form. My magazine said it that way (or similar), because Charmed was about the family and not only witches!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 11:13:39 GMT -5
As for me, I'd like to have seen a reboot or movie if possible. Maybe if only to see how the boys have grown into the men we know. Still there but different. To be honest, we mainly got to know the boys as the next generation and not the others who were introduced as the latest. The original actors could always come back to the new show if there's one, in whatever form. My magazine said it that way (or similar), because Charmed was about the family and not only witches! I'm not sure if you know what a reboot is. What you're asking for is a spinoff, a continuation of the original Charmed continuity centered around Chris & Wyatt. A reboot would be a brand new continuity and universe, altogether, and would exist separately from the original show. |
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Post by sol on Dec 22, 2015 16:36:39 GMT -5
As for me, I'd like to have seen a reboot or movie if possible. Maybe if only to see how the boys have grown into the men we know. Still there but different. To be honest, we mainly got to know the boys as the next generation and not the others who were introduced as the latest. The original actors could always come back to the new show if there's one, in whatever form. My magazine said it that way (or similar), because Charmed was about the family and not only witches! You are still dreaming of a Charmed Sons spin off I'ld have liked it, I liked the two boys, especially Wyatt, and Piper in FC makes it clear that they have enjoyed years of peace, before passing the baton to the next generation and the next generation, in the images, were Wyatt and Chris Sam and Dean took their place, it will take a long time before there was again room for two brothers I don't want a reboot, now: for sure the sisters, three or four or maybe five,would be equipped with superpowers such as to bring down an entire legion of super heroes , they'ld be heroines without fear, of those convinced it's so beautiful to die killed, as stated in an old song from the period of the Franco dictatorship Maybe, when the superhero genre'll beexhausted , the magical world of Charmed'll return interesting and then I hope they'll be able to propose thet mix of irony, authenticity, sisterhood, feelings which was the precious heart of Charmed |
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 23, 2015 2:13:38 GMT -5
I'm sorry for starting a thread about this, but I really have no idea where else to post this. What is coming up is a rant, and I'm sorry about that (I seem to do nothing but rant these days, and not just about Charmed, either): I DO NOT, under any circumstance, want a movie continuation featuring the four sisters and their kids, or even a movie that starts up after season 3 or 8 and treats the show differently. I want a reboot, right now and not in ten, fifteen years. I want a reboot that would fix things, that would take the ideas of the original show and treat them differently, present things under a different angle. I want new actors, new sets, new stories... I want good writing, the kind I can smile at and make me feel happy to like the show, not the kind that makes me bang my head against the wall and makes me feel a little ashamed for liking it. I'm tired of feeling that way. I don't understand why people want a movie, a movie that would just feature the same actors, with the same bad ideas of the show, I want to start over new and fresh. The later seasons of Charmed were so bad that a reboot cannot possibly mess things up, it can just be a serious improvement. Why do people want to wait for that to happen? So they can keep venting out their frustrations about the original show? Do people really enjoy doing that? I don't think so, but I'm starting to seriously ask myself the question... I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, like I said before, I'm tired of feeling like I'm in the minority. Why should you feel ashamed for liking Charmed even in the last season? Not always we love what is perfect My favorite books are the seven of Le recherche du temps perdu of Proust, no one knows how to write emotions like Proust I love the forerunners of tv series as Dumàs and Dickens too, or Lev Tolstoj but I never felt a bond with female characters as the icy Oriane de Guermantes or the sweet Natasha Rostova or Sissy or Milady, while being beautifully written characters I feel rather close to the clumsy and inconclusive Becky of I love shopping, because I have her own tendency to daydream, to get into embarrassing trouble: I love shopping is not exactly a literary masterpiece,no perfect writing I don't follow many series: I loved Lost -the only other forums that I follow is a Lost forum- I never watched other fantasy series, except the first two seasons of Once Upon a Time - nice but cold- and sometimes Supernatural, only because I love the brothers, the serie is being too monotonous and lack of ideas Sometimes I watch a few episodes of The Good Wife, well-written, elegant but I never could have for Alicia the affection that still exists for the four sisters Charmed created four sisters who are loved by the fans, of course I'ld have preferred a bigger continuity in the quality of the episodes - in all the season there are boring or bad episodes, it's normal - I'ld have preferred it was a series with an history less troubled, but with all its imperfections is a serie that you can relate to with pleasure, always Do you really believe that if there was a reboot well written, more logical, more accurate, you'ld love it? I don't think, you'ld feel nostalgic even for the flaws of the old Charmed I don't wish a movie or a season nine, I'ld like the Charmed Sons spin off, a new story of two magical brothers independent of Charmed, in another place and perhaps with other premises - my dream was Wyatt that exiled the Elders on some other astral plane - with an evil world more complex and subtle and less silly rules It didn't happen, it's sad I'ld like also if thery talked of other timelines, as the reality of Morality Bites, but it'll never happen So if there will be a reboot, I can only hope that it'll be used the Charmed world but with an entirely different story, different sisters, different relationship |
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Post by Chrisaholic on Dec 23, 2015 13:41:21 GMT -5
A woman can dream! Though I'm fully aware that a Spin-off with the boys is out of question. Meanwhile for years, which I accept and also understand. What I meant before was a reunion movie since in Charmed the family was more in the front than being witches. Yet, sometimes even this was too much.
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Post by adzpower on Dec 23, 2015 15:17:40 GMT -5
The Charmed Sons spin-off never would have worked anyway, when one brother can take down a whole army of demons with a wave of the hand it kind of takes the point out of making it a long running series.
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