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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 20:11:54 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Season 2 is underrated?
There's always talk about the beginning S1 and 2, Season 3 and 4 (the good-old-days), With Seasons 5 there were fairytales and Phoebe's character forever altered over the remaining seasons. Season 6 had Chris and it was OK but the show really had no point to continue at this point. Season 7 Was like a rebirth that died. And Season 8 - Well I mean you've got to admire the achievement - 8 years!
I don't think Season 2 gets the credit deserves. There are so many well directed episodes and stories in this Season.
Love triangle or not. The battle between Leo and Dan was hot!
Oh I miss Charmed
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Post by West on Mar 16, 2016 21:06:29 GMT -5
It is so underrated.
Apart from the love triangle, its one of the most balanced seasons where all the sisters were at their best, apart from Piper in the love triangle, I love them in it.
So many good episodes. It proves the show was always great at standalones than story-arc driven as we saw in season 3 and beyond. I rewatched charmed last year. I couldn't believe how much I loved this season and the golden era of the early seasons.
Plus as we discussed in the thread focused on the writers, the early seasons had so many of our favourites, who knew how to write the sisters.
Thank-you for opening this thread, like we had with the season 1 one. We should use this as a general discussions thread on the season.
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Post by sol on Mar 17, 2016 4:23:40 GMT -5
I didn't like season 2 so much, I didn't like Jenny, the stereotypical of the pedantic and boring teen
But when I read some opinions and criticisms, I reflect and recover the episode we are talking about and I see it under different light
You are right, apart some episodes that just I can't like - it's a subjective matter, I don't like Pardon My Past which is here one of the favorite! there a loto of underrated episodes
I think that we are noticing it now because of the new series that don't have the same addictive sweetness
Wth Charmed I felt at home, as if they were my family, my friends but now?
There are very intriguing shows, I like The Blacklist, Games of Throne, Continuum, ad example, there are shows more scrupulous and rich and full of deep meanings but it's different
I regret the kitchen of the Manor where Phoebe said she wanted to have a child as a single mother - and then this choice wasn't popular - talking of donors and distractedly Piper remembered that she had to buy eggs, and I laughed and then appeared some danger and the atmosphere was changing, it was this mix of humor and danger, Elders hit by pies and kidnapped children, roses, dates and monsters that I miss
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 8:05:06 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think season 2 often gets a bad rep due to the love triangle and Jenny.
I can't disagree with the dislike for the love triangle, but it hardly ruined the season for me. As for Jenny... well she's barely in it really.
The episodes that I like more than make up for the few that I don't. Plus I just love Phoebe in season 2. Having watched some season 3 recently in prep for my fanfic, I'd forgotten how much the second half of season 3 altered her. She's certainly not at her worst, but I think season 2 was the last season for me where she was one of the best characters.
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Post by West on Mar 17, 2016 8:12:00 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think season 2 often gets a bad rep due to the love triangle and Jenny. I can't disagree with the dislike for the love triangle, but it hardly ruined the season for me. As for Jenny... well she's barely in it really. The episodes that I like more than make up for the few that I don't. Plus I just love Phoebe in season 2. Having watched some season 3 recently in prep for my fanfic, I'd forgotten how much the second half of season 3 altered her. She's certainly not at her worst, but I think season 2 was the last season for me where she was one of the best characters. oh yes Phoebe is at her best in season 2. I adore her so much. She was always so much fun single. Probaly why i agree with connie on not having long term love interests at least until the last season and final having at least one sister marrying. I do see her point in introducing Cole. But the show is just so much fun in season 2. You can find enjoyment in all the episodes if you ignore certain things. The sisters relationship isnt one of the things done wrong in season 2 out of any season. Its at its prime here and best the whole season.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 17, 2016 8:15:56 GMT -5
I'm one of the few fans who liked the triangle - I liked how it showed Piper battling between her normal life that Dan represented and her Charmed life that Leo represented - I've always thought she chose the wrong man, and that Dan would've made her a great husband had he found out about her heritage the way Henry did in Season Eight - and who Leo was to them, including the fact that he'd been dead since WWII. Then if Leo could've done what Cole couldn't - leave Piper alone even as he continued to be their guide...or better. When he left after 'P3 H20', he had stayed gone. And Piper never would've treated Dan as horribly as she treated Leo. The end of S2 after she chose Leo over Dan is when I started disliking her, while totally loving her sisters during that season.
Jenny was a pain, but didn't last long.
You had so many great stand-alones with most of my favorite innocents and villains, and, of course, my all-time favorite episode, 'Morality Bites'. And it included Bane...twice!
S1 and S2 will always be my favorite Charmed time period and my favorite seasons, not due to Connie Burge but due to no Cole, no Chris and no Billie.
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Post by Astral Vision on Mar 17, 2016 8:17:10 GMT -5
One of the things I love about season 2 is the locations that they use. It is probably the only season where you get so many outdoor scenes in so many episodes that are definitely not sets.
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Post by West on Mar 17, 2016 8:30:45 GMT -5
One of the things I love about season 2 is the locations that they use. It is probably the only season where you get so many outdoor scenes in so many episodes that are definitely not sets. I agree we did too. Many episodes. It made it more fun. Including the only time in the series they went on a roadtrip in the episode with aunt gail. A not so popular episode but was nice to see them travel without resorting to orbs.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Mar 17, 2016 14:33:33 GMT -5
I agree we did too. Many episodes. It made it more fun. Including the only time in the series they went on a roadtrip in the episode with aunt gail. A not so popular episode but was nice to see them travel without resorting to orbs. Definitely.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 18:22:23 GMT -5
I am a big fan of Season 2. Sure, it didn't have a story-arc but it didn't need it. The show was still in its exploratory phase and I feel that the writers really took on board what worked (and what didn't) from Season 1 and improved on it. Plus, I'd rather have a season of several memorable standalone episodes than a season full of angst-y, back and forth 'is he Evil, is he redeemable' plots that befell Cole and Chris in Seasons 5 & 6. That was not gripping viewing for me in the least.
As for the love triangle, it really didn't bother me. In some ways I feel like the tone and pacing of Season 2 would've been good for Season 1. Don't get me wrong, I like Season 1 but, again, there was a lot of pacing surrounding Andy and Leo. I wish they'd sped up the Piper, Leo and Dan stuff and also had Andy find out Prue's secret sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 5:28:05 GMT -5
I am a big fan of Season 2. Sure, it didn't have a story-arc but it didn't need it. The show was still in its exploratory phase and I feel that the writers really took on board what worked (and what didn't) from Season 1 and improved on it. Plus, I'd rather have a season of several memorable standalone episodes than a season full of angst-y, back and forth 'is he Evil, is he redeemable' plots that befell Cole and Chris in Seasons 5 & 6. That was not gripping viewing for me in the least. As for the love triangle, it really didn't bother me. In some ways I feel like the tone and pacing of Season 2 would've been good for Season 1. Don't get me wrong, I like Season 1 but, again, there was a lot of pacing surrounding Andy and Leo. I wish they'd sped up the Piper, Leo and Dan stuff and also had Andy find out Prue's secret sooner. A whole lot better than Season 5 and 6. Not even a question, right! The thing I love about Season 2 is that even the bad episodes are worth watching because you get to understand the characters and their powers further - like another layer was being uncovered about the sisters or their power(s). The shows mythology was being explored and it wasn't at a frightening level or a concept that was hard to follow. It was simply Good vs Evil. I actually don't mind the love triangle. I really think it showcased both Piper's Character and Holly Marie Comb's very early - but incredible acting. The best acting from the show came from Shannen, Holly, Julian and Dorian. Agree?
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 18, 2016 5:44:52 GMT -5
I like better seasons 5 and 6, different opinions
In season 2 there are, as often, very nice episodes, some interesting episodes and some boring The seasons is, IMO, really weak in the central episodes while the last five are intriguing, exspecially Chick Flick and Apocalypse, Not
I liked the burocratic command center of the Four Knights and the Council, I wonder what they did in the other six seasons
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Post by sol on Mar 20, 2016 15:34:25 GMT -5
I like better seasons 5 and 6, different opinions In season 2 there are, as often, very nice episodes, some interesting episodes and some boring The seasons is, IMO, really weak in the central episodes while the last five are intriguing, exspecially Chick Flick and Apocalypse, Not I liked the burocratic command center of the Four Knights and the Council, I wonder what they did in the other six seasons The Council!? Where did they do?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 3:52:49 GMT -5
Wasn't the council, the Council of the Triad?
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Post by esperanzaa on Mar 21, 2016 16:13:44 GMT -5
I agree that Season 2 is kind of underrated, but for me the biggest problem with S2 is that nothing really happens there. It has by far the most and best standalone episodes in comparison to any other season, but ironically, that's also the problem with this season. You could basically skip S2, i.e jump from Déjà Vu all over Again to Honeymoon's over and you wouldn't notice that you've left out a whole season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 1:08:28 GMT -5
I disagree. If you skipped S2, you would see Prue and Piper in new jobs and have no idea how they got there.
You'd also miss P3H2O. Of course, at the time, it was a standalone episode, but it really factored into events later, when Paige came along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 1:51:22 GMT -5
I disagree. If you skipped S2, you would see Prue and Piper in new jobs and have no idea how they got there. You'd also miss P3H2O. Of course, at the time, it was a standalone episode, but it really factored into events later, when Paige came along. True. Good points. But I agree that nothing really happened in Season 2 that significantly changed the sisters or the plotline other than Prue's Astral Projection. Still Season 2 is my favourite. Almost like a perfected Season 1.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 22, 2016 1:55:27 GMT -5
I disagree. If you skipped S2, you would see Prue and Piper in new jobs and have no idea how they got there. You'd also miss P3H2O. Of course, at the time, it was a standalone episode, but it really factored into events later, when Paige came along. True. Good points. But I agree that nothing really happened in Season 2 that significantly changed the sisters or the plotline other than Prue's Astral Projection. Still Season 2 is my favourite. Almost like a perfected Season 1. Couldn't agree more if I tried.
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Post by West on Mar 22, 2016 2:52:08 GMT -5
I know it didnt have a true season big bad. But the episodes were good.
Id take dozens of fantastic episodes in a season that doesnt have a clear arc over an arc in a season not so great.
It proves why season 2 is so underrated. I find good things in all the episodes. The sisters worked well.
Okay there were a few bad ones but still that make the rest bad.
Id tell someone to watch all seasons who is new, let them make a judgement. Even if i have my issues with some.
Ive found so many shows, Fans have these debates on what to skip, But id never tell a new fan to skip a season on a first try. I liked the threads we had here where we ended up still loving a handful of episodes even in a bad season. And coming up with lists of our viewings, yes we did skip episodes but still came up with ways to see the series out. With some great picks.
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Post by esperanzaa on Mar 22, 2016 9:40:33 GMT -5
I disagree. If you skipped S2, you would see Prue and Piper in new jobs and have no idea how they got there. You'd also miss P3H2O. Of course, at the time, it was a standalone episode, but it really factored into events later, when Paige came along. Sure, I didn't not mean that someone wouldn't miss ANYTHING, but still, imo, the amount of important events (which had further consequences) that happened in S2 was just too small, and thus someone might not get the impression that they've left out a complete season, maybe only a few episodes. If they only remembered the lesson they learnt in Morality Bites in the later episodes, I'd never say this...
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