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Post by lilchi7212 on Mar 28, 2016 15:18:56 GMT -5
For your information they wanted to recast Prue but every actress they talked to turned them down so they had no choice but to go with a new character. The writers made Rose's character rushed since Paige had to learn quick cause you didn't know when the next demon,warlock or darklighter, or even the Source was gonna attack. Paige's character was rushed because the writers refused to hold out on Cole/Phoebe/Source storyline which was originally supposed to be at the start of season 4 with Prue, then moved to season 5, but then the writers decided to go ahead with the storyline for the second half of the season anyways. To be quite honest, I don't know why you said that Prue was supposed to be recast but since you brought it up, it helps prove that the writers rushed Paige's character development and pretty much gave Prue's storylines to Paige. How do you know this cause I can't find any of that anywhere? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 16:02:14 GMT -5
I loved Victor and Patty. I really do wish we could have had more poignant scenes between them.
"Cheaper By the Coven" is an episode that I absolutely revile, but that little scene with Patty and Victor thinking of what they missed, not being able to raise the sisters together- that was a little nugget of gold. Oh how I wish they'd focused on that kind of stuff some more, because I think there was a lot of potential there. Plus it's an excuse for more Patty and I do love Patty.
And as others have said, if not for being forced to introduce Paige, I definitely think P3 H20 would have been Sam's only appearance.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Mar 28, 2016 23:35:38 GMT -5
Gah. YES. When Victor and Patty were thinking about raising their girls together. I love their chemistry. Whenever they were on screen...
They didn't fall apart for lack of love. They fell apart because of trust and betrayal (and Grams pushing).
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Post by sol on Mar 30, 2016 0:45:03 GMT -5
Paige and Victor seem having a connection for the first time in Cheaper by the Coven
It has been nearly four years since Prue's death and Paige in those years contributed to the salvation of her half sisters, she risked her life for her nephew
Despite the pain in discovering Paige's existence, Victor has to be aware that if Paige didn't exist, perhaps he'ld have lost both Piper and Phoebe
Certainly Phoebe, as expert of relationships, will in time report her father of how Paige had become crucial in their lives, Victor himself with time realized how necessary to their survival is the Power of Three
Paige is part of that power that protects his daughters, ob torto collo Victor has learned to accept her as he accepted the magic and the role of his daughters
Paige and Victor can work together, there is no need that they love each other
In Forever Charmed, Victor and Patty remind one of those couples that after a divorce and years of misunderstanding, in maturity discover that they are able of being friends,their coming together, smiling, with their grandchildren is a nice moment in FC
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Post by Assassin Witch on Mar 30, 2016 21:17:30 GMT -5
Well, at that point, that's fine. But in S4, he should have been more ... "hostile" towards her. Just in his characterization, he would see Paige a product of infidelity that broke up his marriage. And then eventually learn to except her. But not right away. They completely ignored that plot.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Mar 31, 2016 9:53:26 GMT -5
Many things were rushed when it came to Victor and Paige. Though Patty and Victor, when onscreen, were great together and you could still see their love, even though separated and one of them dead. Yet that Victor quickly accepted Paige as "his" new daughter and all, that was more than strange. I had the feeling that Chris welcomed his Grandpa more to the family with accepting the transport way of whitelighters, meaning orbing. lol
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Post by ljones on Mar 31, 2016 22:31:00 GMT -5
Again . . . Paige did dominate Season 4. Even when the season focused on Phoebe and Cole IN THE SECOND HALF, she still played a major role. And the series could have easily made an episode about her, Victor and Sam after Season 4. It never really happened.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 0:04:52 GMT -5
Again . . . Paige did dominate Season 4. Even when the season focused on Phoebe and Cole IN THE SECOND HALF, she still played a major role. Considering that you're the only person here who's been arguing this, maybe you should consider rewatching the season. Paige's introduction was completely rushed and half-assed just so Kern could get back to his Phoebe/Cole story, which again, Paige only seemed to play a "major role" in BECAUSE SHE WAS LITERALLY GETTING LINES THAT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY WRITTEN FOR PRUE. Countless people would agree with me on this, and you know it. |
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Post by sol on Apr 1, 2016 1:12:19 GMT -5
Again . . . Paige did dominate Season 4. Even when the season focused on Phoebe and Cole IN THE SECOND HALF, she still played a major role. And the series could have easily made an episode about her, Victor and Sam after Season 4. It never really happened. I agree, as new sister, she 'ld have a slipped away role in the first half of the season, it'ld have been natural a slower approach to the sisters and to the magic by Paige, slowing down the activity of the Source and leaving more space to plot two witches and an half demon Probably the writers were eager to promote Paige at theCharmed fans for not leave room for too many regrets over Prue In my Spanish forum, most of the people think that |
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 2, 2016 4:24:39 GMT -5
Perhaps Victor's original hostility toward magic stemmed from the fact that Patty had failed to tell him that she was a witch . . . BEFORE they got married. She lied to him a lot, didn't she? A Bewitched situation style, but I cannot believe it was a lie to ruin their wedding, after all they had three daughters together, instead I think the problem arised with Victor feared for his girls' safety Victor disappears from his daughters's life even before Phoebe was born, an invisible father, as Prue told He returns in his daughters's lives when they are adults, not only because Grams died but also because he is grown up as a father, he has changed and now is able to accept the magical world Talking with Leo in The Good, The Bad, and The Cursed, Victor honestly admits it's not easy to be married to a witch, but consciously lies when blames Sam for his marriage failure, probably a convenient excuse to avoid admitting to himself that he abandoned Patty pregnant and he didn't come back even for his baby's love These are heavy remorse and I think that these remorse mattered when Paige appeared in the life of his surviving daughters just at the moment of greatest danger Moreover, Victor is a gentleman who'd never rude behavior with a girl, no matter whether half sister or friend or acquaintance of his daughters, nor Piper and Phoebe'ld have allowed it, so I find normal that Victor accepted Paige, loving aunt of his grandchildren, essential and darling sister of his daughters |
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Post by ljones on Apr 3, 2016 11:48:42 GMT -5
I don't know jack. And no, I won't reconsider my opinion and I don't care how many people would disagree with me. I'm sticking by my words. I thought Paige pretty much dominated ALL of Season 4. She definitely dominated the first half. And she played a stronger supporting role in the Phoebe/Cole arc of the season's second half than Piper or Leo.
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Post by sol on Apr 4, 2016 8:21:06 GMT -5
If Shannen D and Spelling han't kept secret the danger of arrest for Shannen during the filming of the third season, the writers'ld have time to study for a plan B
Shannen herself in an interview in June 2001 declares excited about what Kern has written for Prue character so there has never been time to rethink the season 4 and Paige's character has partially inherited the abundant space given to Prue's character,although shaped on a very different personality
Back to Victor and Patty, their is a couple who'ld work only in maturity
Thinking about it , it's not easy to accept a man who, because of magic, leaves you alone during a pregnancy
In Patty relationship with Sam, Victor has a share of responsibility
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