If Evil Phoebe killed an innocent

[erikamarie]

Oct 28, 2016 11:03:36 GMT -5 yinsoul said:

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree; I've already dragged the topic very off topic with my ramblings, haha. Suffice it to say that I still feel that the actions of the Halliwells sometimes did not match their ideals for other beings, and its not limited to just Cole. But its just my opinion, and I thank you for letting me babble my thoughts at you and I enjoy reading yours. I should not monopolize the topic however...

And yes, I feel that Phoebe would have retained her powers. Unless the bond is severed or the powers stolen I think a witch should be allowed to keep her gifts. I never believed in the arbitrary way that the Elders were said to bestow powers. I think it was Patty who said that she had been hidden Paige for fear of power withholding from the other sisters? I'll have to find the exact quote. In any case I think it would have been compelling. You had this great power, and it was misused. You kept your gift when you made your way back from the brink, but you must be more aware and more careful than ever, especially of yourself.

I love the sisters because they are normal, capable of great self-sacrifice but also of great boshes, I'ld be not able to love them if they were perfect and tediously good
They can use their powers for good or for evil, it a free choise and the Elders cannot remove or confer powers

When Phoebe became Queen of the Underworld, she was not evil, she had changed the shape of her powers but she was the usual Phoebe, more confused by the pregnancy hormones that by the Seer's potion
She tried to save her family, a great bosh, for the note, if Prue was alive, she'ld never dare to think it

Just because the sisters were normal women, I liked Phoebe's reaction to the destruction of her dreams, even if the fans were disappointed, they wished the old, joyfull, big hearted Phoebe
But the pain changes people and it was right and natural that Phoebe closed herself off, refusing Cole and the magic

The witches of Charmed are not superhero ready to fight day and night for the good but ordinary women, it's right that Piper dreamed a normal life and safety for her sons, Paige wanted to be free to use magic, Phoebe wanted to be left alone

[ljones]

Nov 8, 2016 1:27:07 GMT -5 sol said:

I approve, instead


Rick Gittridge was dangerous, he wasn't a stupid guy who had robbed a liquor store, he was a ruthless murderess that would spend his life blackmailing Phoebe to get everything he wanted

Phoebe and Paige weren't the new sheriff in town, but they had to decide quickly what to do to protect magic and people and they did

It is not to justify, I'ld have done the same, especially under the threat of a gun

Phoebe and Paige could have easily come up with a spell to erase Rick's knowledge of their magic abilities and place him back in prison. They had the ability to do this. Instead, Phoebe deliberately plotted his death in cold blood. Paige helped carried it out. And both made questionable excuses for themselves. The moral compass of their victim did not justify their actions. Phoebe and Paige deliberately plotted Rick's murder out of laziness and I suspect, anger at his actions. In calling themselves in destroying evil, they had succumbed to evil in the end.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - Nietzsche

[Melinda Halliwell]

True the Charmed One's powers weren't meant to punish the guilty using their powers case in point with Nathaniel Pratt despite what someone's done so as being said many times on here already Phoebe and Paige could've easily subdued Rick and then removed his knowledge of magic before calling Darryl and having Rick sent back to jail.

[Aaeiyn]

I'm quite puzzled over this odd remorse regarding Rick. Even in the Prue Era, they ignorantly freed demon children which resulted in an indirect death of a Mortal (who was nothing but good). I don't understand the difference in OKing the Charmed Ones in killing demons (including ones that aren't a direct threat to them like Grimlocks, back in S1) but then take issue with them killing bad human beings, like Rick, who IS a direct threat, to them, but I digress.  Yes, they're not supposed to "punish the guilty", and I would say that they didn't punish a guilty person.  Merely protected themselves from a direct threat, unlike the likes of Cal Greene who wasn't a direct threat to Phoebe.  That's how I view it, anyway.

EDIT: To actually answer the OP's question, it depends on the type of "innocent", we're talking about here 'cause the likes of Rick are considered to be "innocent", as well (at least, the comments that I'm reading LOL).