Elemental Charmed - A Team Charmed Cafe Project.

[summerreading]

Sept 5, 2018 5:58:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I agree that S1 should just concentrate on the Elemental Witches - it would be nice if the first time we have guest stars from Classic Charmed (even Neil Roberts and Leigh-Allyn Baker) that it would be Shannen and Alyssa in the season finale. As you said, mentioning the others during Season 1 would be a great way to introduce them, but actually introducing them could be held off for later seasons.

That sounds like a very wise idea. I like this very much. So we might have to adjust press releases, and shift the one with Debbie Morgan until S2. Since that press release does dabble in revealing Peyton and Paige's past a little, and Piper and Phoebe learning it, that could be part of S2 now too.

Although if we're going to have Bridget start out as Prudence's best friend and change when she's possessed by Peyton - we have to figure out how she's able to come back - will it be similar to 'How to Make A Quilt Out of Americans' where the coven (and I like the idea of it *not* being the "former" coven but one that's still continuing in Philadelphia, but that Prudence decided to leave when she moved home to Salem after Allen's death) calls her up in hopes of becoming young again, but leaving out the idea of the demon and the skin falling off - just having Peyton possess Bridget.

That really would be good, I never considered the possibility of the coven still in practice, just Prudence moved and left after Allen's death.

That story could work if the demon and the skin falling off is just replaced with Peyton.

Although I just came up with another idea, an idea that would let one of the other Classic Charmed actors costar in the final episode along with Julian (an idea I admit I don't like - I prefer the Classic Charmed actors only being part of standalone episodes and not part of an arc, so they don't take away too much spotlight from the Elemental Charmed actors, especially during the last season. I like the idea of Shannen and Alyssa as Mary Ann and Jenna showing up once every season, the way Grams showed up once each season in Classic Charmed, while the others only show up for a single episode - but because this is a Team Charmed Cafe Project - not my project - I'm willing to go with the majority - but if Julian can costar in the final season, then I think this would also work) - rather than Bridget being possessed...could it be Andrea, played by Jennifer Rhodes? Or do we have Jennifer play Bridget rather than Andrea?

I like the idea of Andrea being the one possessed just because although she's *not* a Warren, she is Patience and Paige's aunt and Phoebe and Piper's great-aunt and I just like the idea of them being the stars. Plus I like the idea of Peyton being able to come back from the dead because she can possess her great-aunt.

But changing our series that much might be a bit too much hassle, so if others don't like that idea, we don't have to use it.

The only way I see this set-up with Andrea being possessed by Peyton working is if we take out Bridget, and have Andrea being the leader of the coven in her place. It wouldn't mean much changing, except Bridget, wouldn't be the big bad now. Maybe then we'd have Bridget being the one murdered by Andrea/Peyton, who learns the truth, but dies before she can tell Prudence and the others, or let Bridget have another storyline.

Jennifer Rhodes playing Bridget could be fun too. I even thought of the possibility of Finola Hughes playing a member of the coven. Nothing says the coven has to all be around the same age. Finola is 58 now, and Jennifer is 71. If we have Shannen and Alyssa together, why not let Fiona have a  one episode part, maybe as the first member of the coven to die in one of the earlier plots, enough that she and Jennifer reunite for an episode. 

I hope we'd be able to make it work. If it does prove to be too much hassle, then maybe not do it.

[Esmeralda]

Sept 5, 2018 7:29:32 GMT -5 summerreading said:

Sept 5, 2018 5:58:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I agree that S1 should just concentrate on the Elemental Witches - it would be nice if the first time we have guest stars from Classic Charmed (even Neil Roberts and Leigh-Allyn Baker) that it would be Shannen and Alyssa in the season finale. As you said, mentioning the others during Season 1 would be a great way to introduce them, but actually introducing them could be held off for later seasons.

That sounds like a very wise idea. I like this very much. So we might have to adjust press releases, and shift the one with Debbie Morgan until S2. Since that press release does dabble in revealing Peyton and Paige's past a little, and Piper and Phoebe learning it, that could be part of S2 now too.

I'd forgotten about Debbi, but you're right. (and it's Debbi Morgan, not Debbie...) It definitely means that we'd have to do some reorganizing, besides coming up with another arc that's just about the Elemental Witches and not outside people who we want played by the Classic Charmed actors. But if we could, I definitely think we'd have a better series, with the series concentrating on the new show and its actors and not letting it be all about which Classic Charmed actor will show up next.  A TV series that constantly uses guest stars  means the producers don't think it's succeeding on its own merits, and I definitely don't think that describes Elemental Charmed.  If we were doing this as a pure fantasy series (like having all four of the Classic Charmed Ones star along with Brian and Julian...), it would be different, but since our press releases are really making it feel real, I think doing it this way would be better.

But if we decide to change this into a pure online virtual series where you can use whoever you want and not an alternate reality, then it would be fun to cast every character in our series with someone from Classic Charmed. 

Although if we're going to have Bridget start out as Prudence's best friend and change when she's possessed by Peyton - we have to figure out how she's able to come back - will it be similar to 'How to Make A Quilt Out of Americans' where the coven (and I like the idea of it *not* being the "former" coven but one that's still continuing in Philadelphia, but that Prudence decided to leave when she moved home to Salem after Allen's death) calls her up in hopes of becoming young again, but leaving out the idea of the demon and the skin falling off - just having Peyton possess Bridget.

That really would be good, I never considered the possibility of the coven still in practice, just Prudence moved and left after Allen's death.

Well, I figured it made sense if we had Allen's twin living in Philadelphia...

That story could work if the demon and the skin falling off is just replaced with Peyton.

Well, it still needs work since I"m not quite sure what sort of spell they'd use that would get Peyton to possess Bridget...

Although I just came up with another idea, an idea that would let one of the other Classic Charmed actors costar in the final episode along with Julian (an idea I admit I don't like - I prefer the Classic Charmed actors only being part of standalone episodes and not part of an arc, so they don't take away too much spotlight from the Elemental Charmed actors, especially during the last season. I like the idea of Shannen and Alyssa as Mary Ann and Jenna showing up once every season, the way Grams showed up once each season in Classic Charmed, while the others only show up for a single episode - but because this is a Team Charmed Cafe Project - not my project - I'm willing to go with the majority - but if Julian can costar in the final season, then I think this would also work) - rather than Bridget being possessed...could it be Andrea, played by Jennifer Rhodes? Or do we have Jennifer play Bridget rather than Andrea?

I like the idea of Andrea being the one possessed just because although she's *not* a Warren, she is Patience and Paige's aunt and Phoebe and Piper's great-aunt and I just like the idea of them being the stars. Plus I like the idea of Peyton being able to come back from the dead because she can possess her great-aunt.

The only way I see this set-up with Andrea being possessed by Peyton working is if we take out Bridget, and have Andrea being the leader of the coven in her place. It wouldn't mean much changing, except Bridget, wouldn't be the big bad now. Maybe then we'd have Bridget being the one murdered by Andrea/Peyton, who learns the truth, but dies before she can tell Prudence and the others, or let Bridget have another storyline.

OOOO! I've gotta admit I really like this idea - especially if Bridget is the one who Piper is accused of murdering and that Bridget *is* able to tell one of the Warrens the story of how the coven brought Peyton back and that Peyton is now possessing Andrea.

Jennifer Rhodes playing Bridget could be fun too. I even thought of the possibility of Finola Hughes playing a member of the coven. Nothing says the coven has to all be around the same age. Finola is 58 now, and Jennifer is 71. If we have Shannen and Alyssa together, why not let Fiona have a  one episode part, maybe as the first member of the coven to die in one of the earlier plots, enough that she and Jennifer reunite for an episode. 

OOOO! Jennifer continuing to play Andrea (since if she's Allen's twin, she'd be close to Prudence's age) and Finola playing Bridget could really be a lot of fun!

But changing our series that much might be a bit too much hassle, so if others don't like that idea, we don't have to use it

I hope we'd be able to make it work. If it does prove to be too much hassle, then maybe not do it.

Well, if anyone really likes the idea and wants to play with it and come up with press releases for it, GO FOR IT! It might just be what we need to do to put Season Two and Season Five together to make a hellova last-half S4/S5 to end our series!

[prudencehalliwell]

And it really would divide the Warrens. That Paige becoming a warlock after her family thinks she framed Piper and killed Bridget when it was really Andrea possessed by Peyton. Wow!

It really adds another layer of intensity to have Bridget the innocent that Piper is framed for killing and not any random innocent.

[marlenewicca]

I think it is really true that we wouldn't want to keep overcrowding our series with Classic Charmed stars (I even recall that's what was on one of our own press releases). Maybe for that reason, we can have just a few but not literally everyone appearing so often. So Holly, Rose, Brian, and Julian (I personally feel he shouldn't have too many episodes) should be left off. And just let Shannen, Alyssa and Jennifer guest and appear. With a few recurring players like Debbi appearing or even ones who were only in one-episode only on Classic Charmed, and never had a major presence or minor role.

Lot's of the minor actors went on to be stars following a one-off stint on Charmed, and I'm sure they wouldn't take attention away from 'Elemental Charmed' like our stars would e.g Holly or Brian.


Maybe we can have more fun casting names from non-Classic Charmed shows. It will be fun to cast people that Team Charmed Cafe likes from other shows. Then have fun with our press releases for those too. We've been so focused on casting people who appeared on Charmed, that we forgot how much fun we could have casting anybody who wasn't on Charmed.

[Sasha]

I've been thumbing through this thread. I have really missed out on what has been going on at the Cafe as of late.

I'm not even done reading the pages yet - I have spent a long time trying to get through 6 pages. But some very interesting stuff everyone from what I have read.

With my job, I do lots of traveling to different states. So if you need some help with Philadelphia for some background, I'm at your service. I haven't had business trips to Salem, but have been here.

[pheebs]

Sept 5, 2018 5:58:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 5, 2018 2:04:44 GMT -5 pheebs said:

So excited that we have it sorted and planned.

Well, not totally - we still have to figure out how to combine the two seasons together, but we definitely have it started.

Of course.

I agree that S1 should just concentrate on the Elemental Witches - it would be nice if the first time we have guest stars from Classic Charmed (even Neil Roberts and Leigh-Allyn Baker) that it would be Shannen and Alyssa in the season finale. As you said, mentioning the others during Season 1 would be a great way to introduce them, but actually introducing them could be held off for later seasons.

That sounds like a good idea. Let S1 just concentrate on the Elemental Witches, if we want any guest stars or come up with some, lets just pick someone who wasn't on Classic Charmed. 

Although I just came up with another idea, an idea that would let one of the other Classic Charmed actors costar in the final episode along with Julian (an idea I admit I don't like - I prefer the Classic Charmed actors only being part of standalone episodes and not part of an arc, so they don't take away too much spotlight from the Elemental Charmed actors, especially during the last season. I like the idea of Shannen and Alyssa as Mary Ann and Jenna showing up once every season, the way Grams showed up once each season in Classic Charmed, while the others only show up for a single episode - but because this is a Team Charmed Cafe Project - not my project - I'm willing to go with the majority - but if Julian can costar in the final season, then I think this would also work) - rather than Bridget being possessed...could it be Andrea, played by Jennifer Rhodes? Or do we have Jennifer play Bridget rather than Andrea?

I'm starting to think more and more, we might be better not incorporating so many Classic Charmed stars. I'm willing to let go of Julian, but I think maybe just keep Shannen and Alyssa as the multiple episode recurring guests once a season.

Sept 5, 2018 7:59:39 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

The only way I see this set-up with Andrea being possessed by Peyton working is if we take out Bridget, and have Andrea being the leader of the coven in her place. It wouldn't mean much changing, except Bridget, wouldn't be the big bad now. Maybe then we'd have Bridget being the one murdered by Andrea/Peyton, who learns the truth, but dies before she can tell Prudence and the others, or let Bridget have another storyline.

OOOO! I've gotta admit I really like this idea - especially if Bridget is the one who Piper is accused of murdering and that Bridget *is* able to tell one of the Warrens the story of how the coven brought Peyton back and that Peyton is now possessing Andrea.

I never considered that. But this might really be the best idea yet. Let Bridget remain the best friend and ally, and not one who is corrupted. Unless we play around with the Warren's suspecting Bridget it up to no good, but never realizing it's really Andrea. If we don't have Bridget being the one to die, I'd recommend Prudence's brother instead. It does make sense for someone important to the family to be the one to die, than someone random. But I think Bridget fits better with the theme and stories with the Coven.

I hope we'd be able to make it work. If it does prove to be too much hassle, then maybe not do it.

Well, if anyone really likes the idea and wants to play with it and come up with press releases for it, GO FOR IT! It might just be what we need to do to put Season Two and Season Five together to make a hellova last-half S4/S5 to end our series!

I might do something on the weekend for this. But if Summer or others want to do one now, GO FOR IT! Like last time, we had fun when multiple people did press releases and ideas, and we came up with different versions.

Sept 5, 2018 22:33:11 GMT -5 Sasha said:

I've been thumbing through this thread. I have really missed out on what has been going on at the Cafe as of late.

I'm not even done reading the pages yet - I have spent a long time trying to get through 6 pages. But some very interesting stuff everyone from what I have read.

With my job, I do lots of traveling to different states. So if you need some help with Philadelphia for some background, I'm at your service. I haven't had business trips to Salem, but have been here.

I hope you have enjoyed what we have done so far Sasha. Feel free to jump in and ask questions or share ideas with us. Especially you knowing Philadelphia maybe better than some of us, it might help with any stories set here. 

By the way, welcome back to the Cafe. 

[Granny Charmed]

Sept 4, 2018 8:03:48 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 4, 2018 7:53:12 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

I do think the Bridget stories really make a great final season dears. Especially since I find it *way* better than Classic Charmed with Billie and Christy.

We could even slightly change the episodes, so the cruise episode *is* Piper's welcome home celebrations instead. Maybe setting the cliffhanger up for the S4 finale, where the Warren's learn Peyton is possessing Bridget, or even ending the season with Piper's trial about to take place, and S5 opens up with it. Lot's of ideas.

*nods* Definitely like those ideas, Granny.

What about the rest of you?

And I see dear, some people have.  

Sept 5, 2018 22:33:11 GMT -5 Sasha said:

I've been thumbing through this thread. I have really missed out on what has been going on at the Cafe as of late.

I'm not even done reading the pages yet - I have spent a long time trying to get through 6 pages. But some very interesting stuff everyone from what I have read.

With my job, I do lots of traveling to different states. So if you need some help with Philadelphia for some background, I'm at your service. I haven't had business trips to Salem, but have been here.

Welcome back dear to the Cafe, I was wondering what happened to you. Good to see you again. 

I hope you get a chance to read the rest of the pages and can let us all know what you thought. 

[Granny Charmed]

Sept 5, 2018 19:33:27 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

And it really would divide the Warrens. That Paige becoming a warlock after her family thinks she framed Piper and killed Bridget when it was really Andrea possessed by Peyton. Wow!

It really adds another layer of intensity to have Bridget the innocent that Piper is framed for killing and not any random innocent.

I agree with this dear, It *really* does add more to the story and conflict, with Bridget being the that dies and Piper is framed for killing. That when the Warren family learn that it is Andrea being possessed by Peyton in the season 4 finale, I honestly think we have a brilliant final cliffhanger leading into S5. So much drama. 

[summerreading]

Sept 5, 2018 7:59:39 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 5, 2018 7:29:32 GMT -5 summerreading said:

That sounds like a very wise idea. I like this very much. So we might have to adjust press releases, and shift the one with Debbie Morgan until S2. Since that press release does dabble in revealing Peyton and Paige's past a little, and Piper and Phoebe learning it, that could be part of S2 now too.

I'd forgotten about Debbi, but you're right. (and it's Debbi Morgan, not Debbie...) It definitely means that we'd have to do some reorganizing, besides coming up with another arc that's just about the Elemental Witches and not outside people who we want played by the Classic Charmed actors. But if we could, I definitely think we'd have a better series, with the series concentrating on the new show and its actors and not letting it be all about which Classic Charmed actor will show up next.  A TV series that constantly uses guest stars  means the producers don't think it's succeeding on its own merits, and I definitely don't think that describes Elemental Charmed.  If we were doing this as a pure fantasy series (like having all four of the Classic Charmed Ones star along with Brian and Julian...), it would be different, but since our press releases are really making it feel real, I think doing it this way would be better.

But if we decide to change this into a pure online virtual series where you can use whoever you want and not an alternate reality, then it would be fun to cast every character in our series with someone from Classic Charmed. 

We will need to reorganize, and yes Debbi will have to be shifted to another season. Since that story sets up some story for Piper and Phoebe to learn about Peyton, maybe not too far. I'd think it would work well in S2. 

Since we've done so well to make the press releases seem real, we might have to not make it pure online virtual series. So maybe we do need to put a limit on how many Classic Charmed actors we bring on. I'd hate to do this, but we might have to not consider adding Brian, Holly or Rose to our series. 

That really would be good, I never considered the possibility of the coven still in practice, just Prudence moved and left after Allen's death.

Well, I figured it made sense if we had Allen's twin living in Philadelphia...

Your right it does.

That story could work if the demon and the skin falling off is just replaced with Peyton.

Well, it still needs work since I"m not quite sure what sort of spell they'd use that would get Peyton to possess Bridget...

I'm not too good with spells. So if someone else can figure out a good spell for them to use. I'd love to hear it. 

The only way I see this set-up with Andrea being possessed by Peyton working is if we take out Bridget, and have Andrea being the leader of the coven in her place. It wouldn't mean much changing, except Bridget, wouldn't be the big bad now. Maybe then we'd have Bridget being the one murdered by Andrea/Peyton, who learns the truth, but dies before she can tell Prudence and the others, or let Bridget have another storyline.

OOOO! I've gotta admit I really like this idea - especially if Bridget is the one who Piper is accused of murdering and that Bridget *is* able to tell one of the Warrens the story of how the coven brought Peyton back and that Peyton is now possessing Andrea.

I love this idea so very much.

Jennifer Rhodes playing Bridget could be fun too. I even thought of the possibility of Finola Hughes playing a member of the coven. Nothing says the coven has to all be around the same age. Finola is 58 now, and Jennifer is 71. If we have Shannen and Alyssa together, why not let Fiona have a  one episode part, maybe as the first member of the coven to die in one of the earlier plots, enough that she and Jennifer reunite for an episode. 

OOOO! Jennifer continuing to play Andrea (since if she's Allen's twin, she'd be close to Prudence's age) and Finola playing Bridget could really be a lot of fun!

Wouldn't it.

I hope we'd be able to make it work. If it does prove to be too much hassle, then maybe not do it.

Well, if anyone really likes the idea and wants to play with it and come up with press releases for it, GO FOR IT! It might just be what we need to do to put Season Two and Season Five together to make a hellova last-half S4/S5 to end our series!

That really will make one helluva great conclusion for our series. 

Sept 6, 2018 0:12:48 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

Sept 5, 2018 19:33:27 GMT -5 prudencehalliwell said:

And it really would divide the Warrens. That Paige becoming a warlock after her family thinks she framed Piper and killed Bridget when it was really Andrea possessed by Peyton. Wow!

It really adds another layer of intensity to have Bridget the innocent that Piper is framed for killing and not any random innocent.

I agree with this dear, It *really* does add more to the story and conflict, with Bridget being the that dies and Piper is framed for killing. That when the Warren family learn that it is Andrea being possessed by Peyton in the season 4 finale, I honestly think we have a brilliant final cliffhanger leading into S5. So much drama. 

I think it will be a great set-up.

[Esmeralda]

I'm very glad that you guys like that idea, and I really hope we figure out a way to do it.

I had another idea to throw into the mix. Not quite sure which season this would fit into, but before we talked about doing our versions of 'That Seventies Episode' and 'Pardon My Past'. I'm wondering if we could have a full story arc where the Warrens end up going into the past, but actually having to stay there for more than just one episode. I'm thinking about going back and seeing Prudence and Allen and Andrea and the coven, including Bridget, but also going back and seeing what happened between Paige and Sam, and between Sam and Peyton. Both of these could work as nice backstories for what we want to do to end our series. I'm thinking that maybe Patience and Paige could end up going back and seeing what happened to their mother while Piper and Phoebe go back and see what happened to their Aunt Paige and cousin Peyton...In the meantime Prudence would remain in the current time period, having to cope with whatever changes happen in the present thanks to what the time travelers do in the past.

Along with all of this, we might even be able to go back to the Witch Trials with Mary Ann and Jenna.

What do you guys think of that?

[Esmeralda]

Sept 6, 2018 9:29:38 GMT -5 summerreading said:

Sept 5, 2018 7:59:39 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Well, it still needs work since I"m not quite sure what sort of spell they'd use that would get Peyton to possess Bridget...

I'm not too good with spells. So if someone else can figure out a good spell for them to use. I'd love to hear it. 

Well, we don't really need a specific spell right now - not until we'd actually start doing the scripts, if we decide to actually do those. I just can't see hem specifically coming up with a spell that would get Peyton to possess Bridget (or now possibly Andrea), so it would have to be something different that somehow backfires.

[Esmeralda]

Sept 5, 2018 20:14:28 GMT -5 marlenewicca said:

I think it is really true that we wouldn't want to keep overcrowding our series with Classic Charmed stars (I even recall that's what was on one of our own press releases). Maybe for that reason, we can have just a few but not literally everyone appearing so often. So Holly, Rose, Brian, and Julian (I personally feel he shouldn't have too many episodes) should be left off. And just let Shannen, Alyssa and Jennifer guest and appear. With a few recurring players like Debbi appearing or even ones who were only in one-episode only on Classic Charmed, and never had a major presence or minor role.

Lot's of the minor actors went on to be stars following a one-off stint on Charmed, and I'm sure they wouldn't take attention away from 'Elemental Charmed' like our stars would e.g Holly or Brian.


Maybe we can have more fun casting names from non-Classic Charmed shows. It will be fun to cast people that Team Charmed Cafe likes from other shows. Then have fun with our press releases for those too. We've been so focused on casting people who appeared on Charmed, that we forgot how much fun we could have casting anybody who wasn't on Charmed.

But casting people who were on other shows would be just like casting people from Classic Charmed - again saying that EC can't stand on its own.

I do think that when we're all done, we might want to do a fantasy version that leaves out the press releases (which is what makes this seem like an alternate universe that could've/should've happened instead of the rip-off) and just turns our episodes into an Episode Guide where we can make it more like an RPG where we choose the faces we want, not the actual actors.

But that's for much, much later, when we're done with EC - I just think we've done too much work with all of the press releases (especially the ones that aren't about the episodes) to do that now.

Now remember - we still haven't cast the Warrens. I suggested the actors who played Young Prue Halliwell and Young Piper Halliwell play Piper Warren and Phoebe Warren, but thinking this way, we don't even have to do that. I very seldom watch broadcast TV so I have no idea who would make a good Prudence, a good Patience and a good Paige. If someone wants to cast them from other shows, go for it!

[Sasha]

Sept 5, 2018 22:54:48 GMT -5 pheebs said:

Sept 5, 2018 5:58:47 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Well, not totally - we still have to figure out how to combine the two seasons together, but we definitely have it started.

Of course.

I agree that S1 should just concentrate on the Elemental Witches - it would be nice if the first time we have guest stars from Classic Charmed (even Neil Roberts and Leigh-Allyn Baker) that it would be Shannen and Alyssa in the season finale. As you said, mentioning the others during Season 1 would be a great way to introduce them, but actually introducing them could be held off for later seasons.

That sounds like a good idea. Let S1 just concentrate on the Elemental Witches, if we want any guest stars or come up with some, lets just pick someone who wasn't on Classic Charmed. 

Although I just came up with another idea, an idea that would let one of the other Classic Charmed actors costar in the final episode along with Julian (an idea I admit I don't like - I prefer the Classic Charmed actors only being part of standalone episodes and not part of an arc, so they don't take away too much spotlight from the Elemental Charmed actors, especially during the last season. I like the idea of Shannen and Alyssa as Mary Ann and Jenna showing up once every season, the way Grams showed up once each season in Classic Charmed, while the others only show up for a single episode - but because this is a Team Charmed Cafe Project - not my project - I'm willing to go with the majority - but if Julian can costar in the final season, then I think this would also work) - rather than Bridget being possessed...could it be Andrea, played by Jennifer Rhodes? Or do we have Jennifer play Bridget rather than Andrea?

I'm starting to think more and more, we might be better not incorporating so many Classic Charmed stars. I'm willing to let go of Julian, but I think maybe just keep Shannen and Alyssa as the multiple episode recurring guests once a season.

Sept 5, 2018 7:59:39 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

OOOO! I've gotta admit I really like this idea - especially if Bridget is the one who Piper is accused of murdering and that Bridget *is* able to tell one of the Warrens the story of how the coven brought Peyton back and that Peyton is now possessing Andrea.

I never considered that. But this might really be the best idea yet. Let Bridget remain the best friend and ally, and not one who is corrupted. Unless we play around with the Warren's suspecting Bridget it up to no good, but never realizing it's really Andrea. If we don't have Bridget being the one to die, I'd recommend Prudence's brother instead. It does make sense for someone important to the family to be the one to die, than someone random. But I think Bridget fits better with the theme and stories with the Coven.

Well, if anyone really likes the idea and wants to play with it and come up with press releases for it, GO FOR IT! It might just be what we need to do to put Season Two and Season Five together to make a hellova last-half S4/S5 to end our series!

I might do something on the weekend for this. But if Summer or others want to do one now, GO FOR IT! Like last time, we had fun when multiple people did press releases and ideas, and we came up with different versions.

Sept 5, 2018 22:33:11 GMT -5 Sasha said:

I've been thumbing through this thread. I have really missed out on what has been going on at the Cafe as of late.

I'm not even done reading the pages yet - I have spent a long time trying to get through 6 pages. But some very interesting stuff everyone from what I have read.

With my job, I do lots of traveling to different states. So if you need some help with Philadelphia for some background, I'm at your service. I haven't had business trips to Salem, but have been here.

I hope you have enjoyed what we have done so far Sasha. Feel free to jump in and ask questions or share ideas with us. Especially you knowing Philadelphia maybe better than some of us, it might help with any stories set here. 

By the way, welcome back to the Cafe. 

Sept 6, 2018 0:10:05 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

Sept 4, 2018 8:03:48 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

*nods* Definitely like those ideas, Granny.

What about the rest of you?

And I see dear, some people have.  

Sept 5, 2018 22:33:11 GMT -5 Sasha said:

I've been thumbing through this thread. I have really missed out on what has been going on at the Cafe as of late.

I'm not even done reading the pages yet - I have spent a long time trying to get through 6 pages. But some very interesting stuff everyone from what I have read.

With my job, I do lots of traveling to different states. So if you need some help with Philadelphia for some background, I'm at your service. I haven't had business trips to Salem, but have been here.

Welcome back dear to the Cafe, I was wondering what happened to you. Good to see you again. 

I hope you get a chance to read the rest of the pages and can let us all know what you thought. 

Thank you guys. It's nice to be back. I still have a number of pages to get through before I'm caught up.

[pheebs]

Sept 6, 2018 18:33:11 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 5, 2018 20:14:28 GMT -5 marlenewicca said:

I think it is really true that we wouldn't want to keep overcrowding our series with Classic Charmed stars (I even recall that's what was on one of our own press releases). Maybe for that reason, we can have just a few but not literally everyone appearing so often. So Holly, Rose, Brian, and Julian (I personally feel he shouldn't have too many episodes) should be left off. And just let Shannen, Alyssa and Jennifer guest and appear. With a few recurring players like Debbi appearing or even ones who were only in one-episode only on Classic Charmed, and never had a major presence or minor role.

Lot's of the minor actors went on to be stars following a one-off stint on Charmed, and I'm sure they wouldn't take attention away from 'Elemental Charmed' like our stars would e.g Holly or Brian.


Maybe we can have more fun casting names from non-Classic Charmed shows. It will be fun to cast people that Team Charmed Cafe likes from other shows. Then have fun with our press releases for those too. We've been so focused on casting people who appeared on Charmed, that we forgot how much fun we could have casting anybody who wasn't on Charmed.

But casting people who were on other shows would be just like casting people from Classic Charmed - again saying that EC can't stand on its own.

I do think that when we're all done, we might want to do a fantasy version that leaves out the press releases (which is what makes this seem like an alternate universe that could've/should've happened instead of the rip-off) and just turns our episodes into an Episode Guide where we can make it more like an RPG where we choose the faces we want, not the actual actors.

But that's for much, much later, when we're done with EC - I just think we've done too much work with all of the press releases (especially the ones that aren't about the episodes) to do that now.

Now remember - we still haven't cast the Warrens. I suggested the actors who played Young Prue Halliwell and Young Piper Halliwell play Piper Warren and Phoebe Warren, but thinking this way, we don't even have to do that. I very seldom watch broadcast TV so I have no idea who would make a good Prudence, a good Patience and a good Paige. If someone wants to cast them from other shows, go for it!

We really have done way too much work with the press releases to do that now. So something to consider when we're finished. But I hope not anytime soon or for a long time.

Also we wouldn't know or cast every single character in every episode unless we did a script or episode guide.

Unless Marlene when you were talking non Charmed stars you meant just general casting that we're not big names but just anybody in Hollywood. Which again isn't what I'm too worried about right now. Getting our stories and seasons is more important.

But I do feel casting the five Warrens is something to do.

[pheebs]

Sept 6, 2018 18:10:26 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I'm very glad that you guys like that idea, and I really hope we figure out a way to do it.

I had another idea to throw into the mix. Not quite sure which season this would fit into, but before we talked about doing our versions of 'That Seventies Episode' and 'Pardon My Past'. I'm wondering if we could have a full story arc where the Warrens end up going into the past, but actually having to stay there for more than just one episode. I'm thinking about going back and seeing Prudence and Allen and Andrea and the coven, including Bridget, but also going back and seeing what happened between Paige and Sam, and between Sam and Peyton. Both of these could work as nice backstories for what we want to do to end our series. I'm thinking that maybe Patience and Paige could end up going back and seeing what happened to their mother while Piper and Phoebe go back and see what happened to their Aunt Paige and cousin Peyton...In the meantime Prudence would remain in the current time period, having to cope with whatever changes happen in the present thanks to what the time travelers do in the past.

Along with all of this, we might even be able to go back to the Witch Trials with Mary Ann and Jenna.

What do you guys think of that?

I absolutely love that as an arc. That might work well in our third season. We have one press release with them travelling into the past already that was inspired by Whispers From the Past. Unless we still want that one as a standalone for S2 and then the big arc one in S3, Or just one whole season devoted to an arc so it's a season of secrets, time travel and past visits.

Maybe Andrea is with Prudence in the present, just so Prudence has someone to bounce off with the changes. 

Maybe we can reorganize and edit that press release to expand it into an arc. I know Classic Charmed did the time travel to the past once a season. Maybe we do the opposite and have it apart of one season in an arc. Of course we still having actual flashbacks in the series just our time travel ones are part of a 3-5 part arc.

[pheebs]

Sept 6, 2018 18:12:57 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 6, 2018 9:29:38 GMT -5 summerreading said:

I'm not too good with spells. So if someone else can figure out a good spell for them to use. I'd love to hear it. 

Well, we don't really need a specific spell right now - not until we'd actually start doing the scripts, if we decide to actually do those. I just can't see hem specifically coming up with a spell that would get Peyton to possess Bridget (or now possibly Andrea), so it would have to be something different that somehow backfires.

Maybe they want to channel some witch from the past or calling on the spirits for something (maybe just a harmless spell to summon one coven members loved one to see them) that backfires and summons Peyton instead who then possess Bridget or now possibly Andrea. 

Maybe Andrea so happen to end up with an object that belonged to Peyton that perhaps she left behind  when she stayed one time over as a child one time. Andrea thought it belonged to another Warren or as time passed forgot and assumes belonged to a coven members daughter or son instead. 

Just coming up with an idea. Anyone have other ideas?

[Esmeralda]

Sept 6, 2018 20:23:14 GMT -5 pheebs said:

Sept 6, 2018 18:10:26 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

I'm very glad that you guys like that idea, and I really hope we figure out a way to do it.

I had another idea to throw into the mix. Not quite sure which season this would fit into, but before we talked about doing our versions of 'That Seventies Episode' and 'Pardon My Past'. I'm wondering if we could have a full story arc where the Warrens end up going into the past, but actually having to stay there for more than just one episode. I'm thinking about going back and seeing Prudence and Allen and Andrea and the coven, including Bridget, but also going back and seeing what happened between Paige and Sam, and between Sam and Peyton. Both of these could work as nice backstories for what we want to do to end our series. I'm thinking that maybe Patience and Paige could end up going back and seeing what happened to their mother while Piper and Phoebe go back and see what happened to their Aunt Paige and cousin Peyton...In the meantime Prudence would remain in the current time period, having to cope with whatever changes happen in the present thanks to what the time travelers do in the past.

Along with all of this, we might even be able to go back to the Witch Trials with Mary Ann and Jenna.

What do you guys think of that?

I absolutely love that as an arc. That might work well in our third season. We have one press release with them travelling into the past already that was inspired by Whispers From the Past. Unless we still want that one as a standalone for S2 and then the big arc one in S3, Or just one whole season devoted to an arc so it's a season of secrets, time travel and past visits.

Maybe Andrea is with Prudence in the present, just so Prudence has someone to bounce off with the changes. 

Maybe we can reorganize and edit that press release to expand it into an arc. I know Classic Charmed did the time travel to the past once a season. Maybe we do the opposite and have it apart of one season in an arc. Of course we still having actual flashbacks in the series just our time travel ones are part of a 3-5 part arc.

OOO, I really do love what you've done with this - the idea of our middle season just be a season (as you put it) of secrets, time travel and past visits sounds wonderful.

I also like the idea of Andrea being with Prudence in the present so she has someone to bounce off - perhaps at one point something happens so Allen doesn't end up meeting or marrying Prudence so in the present Andrea has no idea who Prudence is... Things like that.

Andrea is truly becoming a costar, so I'm wondering if rather than having her played by a Charmed character, we don't cast her at all until we're done. Right now, I'm thinking that for now we just have Mary Ann and Jenna appear once every season and just not cast any of the others at all, while still letting members cast the Warrens with non-Charmed actors. And if that's the case, if they want to cast Andrea as non-Charmed character, since she *has* become a costar think that should be okay.

What do you guys think of that? If enough people agree, the next time I update, I'll leave out all of the other casting. If we want to play casting in the Casting thread, we still could - purely for the fun of it, and something to think of when/if anyone decides to do a fantasy alternate universe story - there. If others like *that* idea, I can move our current casting over to that thread.

Remember, if anyone wants to use current stars to play Piper and Phoebe, I don't mind changing that.

[Esmeralda]

Sept 6, 2018 20:39:16 GMT -5 pheebs said:

Sept 6, 2018 18:12:57 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Well, we don't really need a specific spell right now - not until we'd actually start doing the scripts, if we decide to actually do those. I just can't see hem specifically coming up with a spell that would get Peyton to possess Bridget (or now possibly Andrea), so it would have to be something different that somehow backfires.

Maybe they want to channel some witch from the past or calling on the spirits for something (maybe just a harmless spell to summon one coven members loved one to see them) that backfires and summons Peyton instead who then possess Bridget or now possibly Andrea. 

Maybe Andrea so happen to end up with an object that belonged to Peyton that perhaps she left behind  when she stayed one time over as a child one time. Andrea thought it belonged to another Warren or as time passed forgot and assumes belonged to a coven members daughter or son instead. 

Just coming up with an idea. Anyone have other ideas?

OOOO! I really like those ideas! Maybe Andrea wants to call up her brother on *their* 70th birthday, but the way the spell is worded, it calls up Peyton instead, and since Andrea's the one who casts the spell, and Andrea is Peyton's great-aunt, that's why she possesses Andrea.

How's that?

[summerreading]

Sept 6, 2018 18:12:57 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 6, 2018 9:29:38 GMT -5 summerreading said:

I'm not too good with spells. So if someone else can figure out a good spell for them to use. I'd love to hear it. 

Well, we don't really need a specific spell right now - not until we'd actually start doing the scripts, if we decide to actually do those. I just can't see hem specifically coming up with a spell that would get Peyton to possess Bridget (or now possibly Andrea), so it would have to be something different that somehow backfires.

Just as I thought and so glad, when we come to a crossroads, I step away and come back and find everyone has already thrown more ideas into the pot to find a way to work something.

Sept 6, 2018 18:33:11 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 5, 2018 20:14:28 GMT -5 marlenewicca said:

I think it is really true that we wouldn't want to keep overcrowding our series with Classic Charmed stars (I even recall that's what was on one of our own press releases). Maybe for that reason, we can have just a few but not literally everyone appearing so often. So Holly, Rose, Brian, and Julian (I personally feel he shouldn't have too many episodes) should be left off. And just let Shannen, Alyssa and Jennifer guest and appear. With a few recurring players like Debbi appearing or even ones who were only in one-episode only on Classic Charmed, and never had a major presence or minor role.

Lot's of the minor actors went on to be stars following a one-off stint on Charmed, and I'm sure they wouldn't take attention away from 'Elemental Charmed' like our stars would e.g Holly or Brian.


Maybe we can have more fun casting names from non-Classic Charmed shows. It will be fun to cast people that Team Charmed Cafe likes from other shows. Then have fun with our press releases for those too. We've been so focused on casting people who appeared on Charmed, that we forgot how much fun we could have casting anybody who wasn't on Charmed.

But casting people who were on other shows would be just like casting people from Classic Charmed - again saying that EC can't stand on its own.

I do think that when we're all done, we might want to do a fantasy version that leaves out the press releases (which is what makes this seem like an alternate universe that could've/should've happened instead of the rip-off) and just turns our episodes into an Episode Guide where we can make it more like an RPG where we choose the faces we want, not the actual actors.

But that's for much, much later, when we're done with EC - I just think we've done too much work with all of the press releases (especially the ones that aren't about the episodes) to do that now.

Now remember - we still haven't cast the Warrens. I suggested the actors who played Young Prue Halliwell and Young Piper Halliwell play Piper Warren and Phoebe Warren, but thinking this way, we don't even have to do that. I very seldom watch broadcast TV so I have no idea who would make a good Prudence, a good Patience and a good Paige. If someone wants to cast them from other shows, go for it!

If anyone watches broadcast television and wants to cast them, go ahead. I also forgot that since our series starts out on The CW, we might have to cast more the typical CW stars for the roles of Piper and Phoebe. But I'll leave that in the hands of those who do watch and know actresses in the 20-early 30 age group. 

Sept 6, 2018 21:15:35 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 6, 2018 20:23:14 GMT -5 pheebs said:

I absolutely love that as an arc. That might work well in our third season. We have one press release with them travelling into the past already that was inspired by Whispers From the Past. Unless we still want that one as a standalone for S2 and then the big arc one in S3, Or just one whole season devoted to an arc so it's a season of secrets, time travel and past visits.

Maybe Andrea is with Prudence in the present, just so Prudence has someone to bounce off with the changes. 

Maybe we can reorganize and edit that press release to expand it into an arc. I know Classic Charmed did the time travel to the past once a season. Maybe we do the opposite and have it apart of one season in an arc. Of course we still having actual flashbacks in the series just our time travel ones are part of a 3-5 part arc.

OOO, I really do love what you've done with this - the idea of our middle season just be a season (as you put it) of secrets, time travel and past visits sounds wonderful.

I also like the idea of Andrea being with Prudence in the present so she has someone to bounce off - perhaps at one point something happens so Allen doesn't end up meeting or marrying Prudence so in the present Andrea has no idea who Prudence is... Things like that.

Andrea is truly becoming a costar, so I'm wondering if rather than having her played by a Charmed character, we don't cast her at all until we're done. Right now, I'm thinking that for now we just have Mary Ann and Jenna appear once every season and just not cast any of the others at all, while still letting members cast the Warrens with non-Charmed actors. And if that's the case, if they want to cast Andrea as non-Charmed character, since she *has* become a costar think that should be okay.

What do you guys think of that? If enough people agree, the next time I update, I'll leave out all of the other casting. If we want to play casting in the Casting thread, we still could - purely for the fun of it, and something to think of when/if anyone decides to do a fantasy alternate universe story - there. If others like *that* idea, I can move our current casting over to that thread.

Remember, if anyone wants to use current stars to play Piper and Phoebe, I don't mind changing that.

WOW - I love these ideas. Our middle season is a season of secrets, time travel and past visits are perfect. I'm so very proud how ideas bouch around and we manage to find ideas for an arc. How a Team Charmed Cafe works so well.

Andrea as a costar is fine, again we want this series to be female-centric. I don't mind Andrea at all, even if of course her being located in another city means she won't will not appear as often and only as more a recurring co-star like Darryl was.

I'm fine with leaving off other castings, apart from Shannen and Alyssa and to a lesser extent one more recurring actor on Classic Charmed that was only in one episode.

I haven't watched much broadcast television or especially The CW, but it would be so typical for The CW to want to cast someone from other hits and that show Pretty Little Liars is off the air I believe now, if anyone wants to cast one of those, go for it. Since it's a The CW show to start, I'm sure they want to draw viewers by casting someone known to many.

I've seen a few episodes of Pretty Little Liars mostly to check out Holly then realizing it's really not my show. But I went digging and looked at the actresses, one of the stars is 32 years old, Troian Bellisario. Maybe she can play Piper. If others who regularly watched it, like this idea. We can add her to the press releases. I just figured for a show starting on The CW, it would generate buzz to cast one.

Having seen some of Once Upon a Time from time to time, Meghan Ory (who played Little Red Riding Hood) she's 36 years old. Maybe she can play Paige. Unless we are still wanting Jennifer Love Hewitt?

I went digging for a Phoebe and just did a little research for actresses in early 20s. I found Katherine Langford, who was on a popular Netflix series but is no longer apart of it now. So I added her for now. What's funny I came across the actress playing the young sister on the ripoff/reboot of Charmed on this list, and she was I believe a co-star on Shades of Blue with Jennifer Lopez. So it would be in the CW way to cast people who were stars on other hit shows, like Classic Charmed.

That's all I got. Anyone else know anyone, suggest away? If you don't my choices, feel free not to go ahead, or suggest others.

Sept 6, 2018 21:20:33 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Sept 6, 2018 20:39:16 GMT -5 pheebs said:

Maybe they want to channel some witch from the past or calling on the spirits for something (maybe just a harmless spell to summon one coven members loved one to see them) that backfires and summons Peyton instead who then possess Bridget or now possibly Andrea. 

Maybe Andrea so happen to end up with an object that belonged to Peyton that perhaps she left behind  when she stayed one time over as a child one time. Andrea thought it belonged to another Warren or as time passed forgot and assumes belonged to a coven members daughter or son instead. 

Just coming up with an idea. Anyone have other ideas?

OOOO! I really like those ideas! Maybe Andrea wants to call up her brother on *their* 70th birthday, but the way the spell is worded, it calls up Peyton instead, and since Andrea's the one who casts the spell, and Andrea is Peyton's great-aunt, that's why she possesses Andrea.

How's that?

What a great idea! I really think we are onto something here guys.

[Sasha]

Aug 31, 2018 3:57:40 GMT -5 pheebs said:

I've done my own editing to a couple of episodes, taking into account suggestions and also my own ideas for one. As usual, feel free, to revert it back to the original, edit it yourself, or make suggestions?


Here's the original:

ELEMENTAL WITCHES (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

Season 3, Episode 12 'Past Imperfect'

Written by Sheryl J. Anderson

CLASSIC "CHARMED" ACTRESS JENNIFER RHODES RETURN AS WARRENS CELEBRATE SALEM'S 250TH FOUNDERS' DAY — As the Warren family (including Prudence's sister-in-law, Andrea Halliwell [special guest star Jennifer Rhodes]) get ready for the 250th Founders Day celebrations for Old Salem, their ancestor, Mary Ann Warren, uses the spirit board to send a dire warning - someone is going to try to change the Warren family history forever. Before the Warrens decide what to do about this, Piper and Phoebe are pulled into the past. The older The Warrens are devastated, wondering what has happened to Piper and Phoebe. Unknown to them, the three of them are turning evil, finding themselves using their newfound evil powers for personal gain. Suddenly Andrea finds herself the target of a dangerous game of cat and mouse.

Meanwhile, in the past, Piper and Phoebe are greeted by the family of another one of their ancestors who explain that they are being hunted down by warlocks, descendants of Jenna Warren. Can Piper and Phoebe stop whoever is trying to change their family history with only two Elemental Witches?

Original airdate: Sunday, TBD, 8:00-9:00 PM ET

CBS-TV

-Colton Charmed
 

Here's my edit with the suggestion by Marlene Wicca:

ELEMENTAL WITCHES (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

Season 3, Episode 12 'Past Imperfect'

Written by Sheryl J. Anderson

CLASSIC "CHARMED" ACTRESS JENNIFER RHODES RETURN AS WARRENS CELEBRATE SALEM'S FOUNDERS' DAY AND ONE OF THEM IS CELEBRATED IN A BIG WAY— As the Warren family (including Prudence's sister-in-law, Andrea Halliwell [special guest star Jennifer Rhodes]) get ready for the annual Founders Day celebrations for Old Salem, little does Prudence know this year an award in her honor for all her hard work to the community and as a doctor will be given out to her at the Founders Day festivities.

Later as Prudence's ceremony takes place, Piper rushes to the manor forgetting something just as their ancestor, Mary Ann Warren, uses the spirit board to send a dire warning - someone is going to try to change the Warren family history forever.

Before the Warrens decide what to do about this, Piper and Phoebe are pulled into the past. The older The Warrens are devastated, wondering what has happened to Piper and Phoebe. Unknown to them, the three of them are turning evil, finding themselves using their newfound evil powers for personal gain. Suddenly Andrea finds herself the target of a dangerous game of cat and mouse.

Meanwhile, in the past, Piper and Phoebe are greeted by the family of another one of their ancestors who explain that they are being hunted down by warlocks, descendants of Jenna Warren. Can Piper and Phoebe stop whoever is trying to change their family history with only two Elemental Witches?

Original airdate: Sunday, TBD, 8:00-9:00 PM ET

CBS-TV

-Colton Charmed
& Marlene Wicca

Here's the original:

ELEMENTAL WITCHES (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

Season 4, Episode 12: 'The Isaac Flower'

ONE TOUCH OF A FLOWER COULD CAUSE THE DEATH OF A WARREN FOREVER — With Piper's relationship with her boyfriend going well, Prudence off being a volunteer and both Patience and Paige at their high school reunions, Phoebe feels a little lonely and bored and signs up for an online dating service. The responses are great, but when one of her new date whom she meets in person brings her an Isaac Flower, it begins to drain Phoebe of her energy upon touch. Little does she know, each time she receives another flower, it continues to drain her more and more to the point of death.

When Prudence learns what's up with a Premonition, she interrupts all of Warren's social lives in order to save Phoebe. Soon enough they learn the demon they are after, is using the flower to drain the live forms of its victims, in the hopes it can gain enough life forms from humans to become immortal forever.

But the Warren's soon learn, their demon has taken Phoebe to his garden, which has hundreds more Isaac Flowers, and upon learning Phoebe is a witch, the demon hopes that draining a witch will allow him more power.

Original airdate: Sunday, TBD, 8:00-9:00 PM ET

CBS-TV

-Colton Charmed

Here's my edit:

ELEMENTAL WITCHES (TV-14, DLV) (HDTV)

Season 3, Episode 16: 'The Isaac Flower'

ONE TOUCH OF A FLOWER COULD CAUSE THE DEATH OF THREE WARRENS FOREVER — It's Spring Time in Salem, and Prudence does some much-needed spring planting and tends to Warren family garden and herbs. She asks Phoebe to head to the local store for some ingredients, and to local Wicca herbs and spices stores for more magical needs. 

Phoebe has all the stuff she needs on her list but notices a new store has opened up opposite their regular herbs and spices store across the street. She enters the store, and a young woman raves about a certain 'Issac Flower', but when Phoebe comes with it and places it on her windowsill, it begins to drain Phoebe of her energy upon touch. Little does she know, each time she buys another flower, it continues to drain her more and more to the point of death.

The next morning, Both Piper's restaurant & Paige's social services begin to house said flowers, and the same effects begin to happen to them and more and more people begin to suffer the same effects. Eventually, Prudence learns what's up with a Premonition, and stops Patience before she can touch her own flowered gift.

After reading the book of shadows, Prudence and Patience both learn that the Issac Flower is draining people to the point of death, because the young woman selling them is really a warlock using all the lifeform from people in order to revive her mother, who was cursed a long time ago to remain in a slumber state and become one with the flowers, because a century ago, she had endangered the local forests of Salem and was harming the Wood Nymphs. 

Although the Nymphs are completely invisible to all humans including Witches, Patience has the ability to communicate with them due to her Elemental Power of Earth, but can only hear and communicate with them, and still unable to see them. 

Now time is running out for Prudence and Patience to save Paige, Piper and Phoebe and the citizens of Salem affected by the Issac Flower, who begin to enter a trance, and all head to the warlock's garden, for the final steps in order to revive her mother from her slumber and break the curse.

Original airdate: Sunday, March 14, 2021, 8:00-9:00 PM ET

CBS-TV

Now I'm sure I'll already get people hating the near thought of a mention of Nymphs. But I added them to the story because I just felt it added a really good story base for my edit with the warlock trying to get her mother back because she endangered the forests. No Warren becomes a Nymphs, and nobody will see them. Only Patience can communicate due to her Earth power. 

If people dislike this idea, feel free to edit it back to the original. If someone else has other ideas, go for it!

Getting through reading. But I wanted to comment on this one in particular. I like how you have handled magical creatures and the use of the earth element as a way they can hear voices but still cant see them to communicate.

Is this how you'll always do them. That a particular Warren can communicate through an element only. But I'd hope you do it so they always remain unseen.