When did Charmed get its growing the beard moment?

[Too Much Coffee]

From Fear to Eternity, when Prue says I Love You to Piper.

[virgowitch]

Melinda Warren's resurrection and the escalation of Rex and Hannah's villainy.

[forbuss]

When I initially read the title I thought of what I consider this moment, but after reading I think some will disagree...

If I had to pick one episode, I think it would be "The Demon Who Came in From the Cold". This is because it set into motion the events of the episodes 3x19 - 4x03. I think this is when it went super next level for me.

That being said, the thing about Charmed is that it's hard to name a moment the show permanently improved it's quality, because Charmed was sort of one of those shows that went back and forth between the quality of its episodes, seasons, etc. Basically any episode you pick you can name an episode after it that is terrible... I guess unless you pick Forever Charmed.

[Julian]

This is tough, I didn't like the first half of season 1, unlike most fans, I didn't warm up to Prue in it, she was just so bossy, although she had good moments with her sisters.

I think I'm going to pick when Prue confessed to Phoebe the reason she couldn't say I love you in the attic, it was the first time we saw a vulnerable side of Prue, and when I started to warm up to her.

[stratego]

I do not believe at all that Charmed was a show that improved along the way. The first episode was one of the best of the show and most of season 1 was able to live up to it. But from season 2 onwards the show actually started to go downhill, with only a few episodes being on the same level as the first season.

I don't think Prue saying "I love you" changed anything significantly, it seemed like a logical development in the whole story arc of the sisters growing closer.

[Aaeiyn]

I definitely think S1 is their best season, and I think by S3 they were AWESOME! S4 and S5 was "meh". But, I think the "fluff" that began in S5 is what captured a general audience because it carried over in S6 which still remains quite popular (at least with the Chris fans ;P). I think it completely derailed in S7 (despite me liking it). And, S8 (despite me liking it) was just sad, for the Charmed community, IMO.

[Emmett]

Aug 22, 2020 13:02:55 GMT -5 virgowitch said:

Melinda Warren's resurrection and the escalation of Rex and Hannah's villainy.

This was my very first episode of Charmed, so I can't say it was the growing the beard moment, if that was my start, but I'd say it might be the ending of That 70s Episode, where this happened:

Phoebe: Yes, I wrote her a note telling her to stay away from water on the day that she died. And then I put it in the Book of Shadows.



Piper: I can't believe you did that.



Phoebe: You don't understand. Every time I've made a wish, I wished for time with mum. And I believed in my heart that someday, somehow, that wish would come true and when it finally did, I didn't wanna let her go. You know, but then I realized that I had to let her go, so I took the note out and put it in my pocket.



Prue: Maturity sucks, doesn't it?

[rebooted]

I think the beard is grown by The Witch is Back and Wicca Envy

But I also believe that the show jumps the shark 4 episodes later in Secrets and Guys with the introduction of whitelighters.

[zoeysmom]

For me, it was Wicca Envy, in Season 1. It started with Prue and Phoebe coming from shopping and laughing, and then later in the episode, Prue and Piper are talking at Quake, and Piper is all happy because she and Leo just started dating and are still in the honeymoon phase, and Prue says she glowing and is clearly happy for her.

[rebooted]

Nov 10, 2021 14:49:10 GMT -5 zoeysmom said:

For me, it was Wicca Envy, in Season 1. It started with Prue and Phoebe coming from shopping and laughing, and then later in the episode, Prue and Piper are talking at Quake, and Piper is all happy because she and Leo just started dating and are still in the honeymoon phase, and Prue says she glowing and is clearly happy for her.

Which episodes is this in? 

The second part you are referring too?

[zoeysmom]

Nov 11, 2021 4:05:53 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Nov 10, 2021 14:49:10 GMT -5 zoeysmom said:

For me, it was Wicca Envy, in Season 1. It started with Prue and Phoebe coming from shopping and laughing, and then later in the episode, Prue and Piper are talking at Quake, and Piper is all happy because she and Leo just started dating and are still in the honeymoon phase, and Prue says she glowing and is clearly happy for her.

Which episodes is this in? 

The second part you are referring too?

Wicca Envy. Season 1, Episode 11.

[rebooted]

Nov 11, 2021 17:43:55 GMT -5 zoeysmom said:

Nov 11, 2021 4:05:53 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Which episodes is this in? 

The second part you are referring too?

Wicca Envy. Season 1, Episode 11.

Oh right sorry you did say that

Hmmm i can't remember this scene but I want to watch Wicca Envy again to see it again. 

Is it in the opening shot/ post credits?

[zoeysmom]

Nov 11, 2021 18:16:31 GMT -5 rebooted said:

Nov 11, 2021 17:43:55 GMT -5 zoeysmom said:

Wicca Envy. Season 1, Episode 11.

Oh right sorry you did say that

Hmmm i can't remember this scene but I want to watch Wicca Envy again to see it again. 

Is it in the opening shot/ post credits?

The opening shot

[Julian]

Having been part of the S1 re-watch. I really feel more strongly that it begins with 'From Fear to Eternity' with the moment Prue said I love you to Phoebe.

[forbuss]

I would actually say that the "Growing the Beard" moment would be 2x02 "Morality Bites" - I think this is the greatest lesson the sisters ever learned: The wrong thing done for the right reason is still the wrong thing. I think this was a super definitive moment in the show.

[Keeper Of Melinda's Locket]

Bumping for future reference!

I was just in this thread:
thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/13129/when-charmed-jump-shark-moment

Once I figure out the jump-the-shark moment for myself, I want to figure out my growing-the-beard moment. Then Ideally I'd have to figure out what IS CHARMED for me when the show is at its best with whatever's in between the two.

That could be a topic for its own thread listing your growing the beard moment and jump the shark moment and noting down the episodes that all are in-between then.

[Aaeiyn]

I've always stood firm that S1 is the BEST Charmed season. I've NEVER swayed away from S1 being the best.  I fell in love with the show in this season, but IDK exactly which episode captured me.

After posting my Favorite S1 Section(s), it's pretty clear the Mid and End section(s) of S1 really captures the community, and I have to agree with S1E13 "From Fear to Eternity" really enforcing that. Pretty much most of the episodes afterwards (within S1) is golden!

[angelap]

At some point in S1 I can see the show having its growing the beard moment.

[rebooted]

I think When Melinda sees the future of many daughters when Phoebe puts Melinda's hand on Phoebe's heart and thanks them for fulfilling her prophecy, thats when it starts growing and its finished growing by That 70's episode when Grams and Patty send the sisters back to 1999.

9. 1-9 16 Dec 98 The Witch Is Back
10. 1-10 13 Jan 99 Wicca Envy
11. 1-11 20 Jan 99 Feats of Clay
12. 1-12 03 Feb 99 The Wendigo
13. 1-13 10 Feb 99 From Fear to Eternity
14. 1-14 17 Feb 99 Secrets and Guys
15. 1-15 24 Feb 99 Is There a Woogy in the House?
16. 1-16 03 Mar 99 Which Prue Is It, Anyway?
17. 1-17 07 Apr 99 That '70s Episode


The beard gets a trimming, or neatening up after a lofty growth period here:

38. 2-16 30 Mar 00 Murphy's Luck
39. 2-17 06 Apr 00 How to Make a Quilt Out of Americans
40. 2-18 20 Apr 00 Chick Flick
41. 2-19 27 Apr 00 Ex Libris
42. 2-20 04 May 00 Astral Monkey
43. 2-21 11 May 00 Apocalypse Not


The beard is dyed and has some argon and coconut oil to give it a shine here:

45. 3-1 05 Oct 00 The Honeymoon's Over
46. 3-2 12 Oct 00 Magic Hour
47. 3-3 19 Oct 00 Once Upon a Time
48. 3-4 26 Oct 00 All Halliwell's Eve
49. 3-5 02 Nov 00 Sight Unseen
50. 3-6 09 Nov 00 Primrose Empath
51. 3-7 16 Nov 00 Power Outage


The beard received a collegen supplement boost here:

58. 3-14 15 Feb 01 The Good, the Bad and the Cursed
59. 3-15 22 Feb 01 Just Harried
60. 3-16 15 Mar 01 Death Takes a Halliwell
61. 3-17 22 Mar 01 Pre-Witched
62. 3-18 19 Apr 01 Sin Francisco


The beard receives a fancy twisty curly ended moustache here.
At this point the focus is on the moustache and not so much the beard

69. 4-3 11 Oct 01 Hell Hath No Fury
70. 4-4 18 Oct 01 Enter the Demon
71. 4-5 25 Oct 01 Size Matters
72. 4-6 01 Nov 01 A Knight to Remember
73. 4-7 08 Nov 01 Brain Drain
74. 4-8 15 Nov 01 Black as Cole
75. 4-9 13 Dec 01 Muse to My Ears
76. 4-10 17 Jan 02 A Paige from the Past
77. 4-11 24 Jan 02 Trial by Magic
78. 4-12 31 Jan 02 Lost and Bound
79. 4-13 07 Feb 02 Charmed and Dangerous


The beard gets itchy (like an itch that feels good that you know you shouldn't itch) here:

82. 4-16 21 Mar 02 The Fifth Halliwheel
83. 4-17 28 Mar 02 Saving Private Leo
84. 4-18 18 Apr 02 Bite Me
85. 4-19 25 Apr 02 We're Off to See the Wizard
86. 4-20 02 May 02 Long Live the Queen
87. 4-21 09 May 02 Womb Raider


The beard gets dyed to a red colour dye job here

91. 5-3 29 Sep 02 Happily Ever After
92. 5-4 06 Oct 02 Siren Song
93. 5-5 13 Oct 02 Witches in Tights
94. 5-6 20 Oct 02 The Eyes Have It
95. 5-7 03 Nov 02 Sympathy for the Demon
96. 5-8 10 Nov 02 A Witch in Time
97. 5-9 17 Nov 02 Sam I Am


The owner of the beard gets into a depression, lacks self care and only cleans his beard from time to time here, not consistently:
They even try going blonde during a mid-life crisis.

105. 5-17 06 Apr 03 Lucky Charmed
106. 5-18 13 Apr 03 Cat House
107. 5-19 20 Apr 03 Nymphs Just Want to Have Fun
108. 5-20 27 Apr 03 Sense and Sense Ability
109. 5-21 04 May 03 Necromancing the Stone
110. 5-22 11 May 03 Oh My Goddess (1)
111. 5-23 11 May 03 Oh My Goddess (2)
112. 6-1 28 Sep 03 Valhalley of the Dolls (1) (goes blonde)
113. 6-2 28 Sep 03 Valhalley of the Dolls (2)
114. 6-3 05 Oct 03 Forget Me... Not
115. 6-4 12 Oct 03 The Power of Three Blondes
116. 6-5 19 Oct 03 Love's a Witch
117. 6-6 26 Oct 03 My Three Witches
118. 6-7 02 Nov 03 Soul Survivor
119. 6-8 09 Nov 03 Sword and the City. (gets nits/ hair lice)
120. 6-9 16 Nov 03 Little Monsters
121. 6-10 23 Nov 03 Chris-Crossed
122. 6-11 11 Jan 04 Witchstock
123. 6-12 18 Jan 04 Prince Charmed
124. 6-13 25 Jan 04 Used Karma
125. 6-14 08 Feb 04 The Legend of Sleepy Halliwell
126. 6-15 15 Feb 04 I Dream of Phoebe
127. 6-16 22 Feb 04 The Courtship of Wyatt's Father
128. 6-17 14 Mar 04 Hyde School Reunion
129. 6-18 18 Apr 04 Spin City
130. 6-19 25 Apr 04 Crimes and Witch-Demeanors
131. 6-20 02 May 04 A Wrong Day's Journey Into Right
132. 6-21 09 May 04 Witch Wars
133. 6-22 16 May 04 It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World (Part 1)
134. 6-23 16 May 04 It's a Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad World (Part 2)
135. 7-1 12 Sep 04 A Call to Arms
136. 7-2 19 Sep 04 The Bare Witch Project
137. 7-3 26 Sep 04 Cheaper by the Coven
138. 7-4 03 Oct 04 Charrrmed!
139. 7-5 10 Oct 04 Styx Feet Under
140. 7-6 17 Oct 04 Once in a Blue Moon


The owner of the beard gets BetterHelp and starts self-care again. Remembers who he truly is:

143. 7-9 21 Nov 04 There's Something About Leo
144. 7-10 28 Nov 04 Witchness Protection
145. 7-11 16 Jan 05 Ordinary Witches
146. 7-12 23 Jan 05 Extreme Makeover: World Edition
147. 7-13 30 Jan 05 Charmageddon
148. 7-14 13 Feb 05 Carpe Demon
149. 7-15 20 Feb 05 Show Ghouls
150. 7-16 10 Apr 05 The Seven Year Witch
151. 7-17 17 Apr 05 Scry Hard
152. 7-18 24 Apr 05 Little Box of Horrors
153. 7-19 01 May 05 Freaky Phoebe
154. 7-20 08 May 05 Imaginary Fiends
155. 7-21 15 May 05 Death Becomes Them
156. 7-22 22 May 05 Something Wicca This Way Goes


The owner of the beard realises he's had a great life and that his beard hairs are falling out and that he's grateful he at least had a great beard back in the day
There is a future generation of beard to come:

157. 8-1 25 Sep 05 Still Charmed and Kicking
158. 8-2 02 Oct 05 Malice in Wonderland
159. 8-3 09 Oct 05 Run, Piper, Run
160. 8-4 16 Oct 05 Desperate Housewitches
161. 8-5 23 Oct 05 Rewitched
162. 8-6 30 Oct 05 Kill Billie: Vol. 1
163. 8-7 06 Nov 05 The Lost Picture Show
164. 8-8 13 Nov 05 Battle of the Hexes
165. 8-9 20 Nov 05 Hulkus Pocus
166. 8-10 27 Nov 05 Vaya Con Leos
167. 8-11 08 Jan 06 Mr. & Mrs. Witch
168. 8-12 15 Jan 06 Payback's a Witch
169. 8-13 22 Jan 06 Repo Manor
170. 8-14 12 Feb 06 12 Angry Zen
171. 8-15 19 Feb 06 The Last Temptation of Christy
172. 8-16 26 Feb 06 Engaged and Confused
173. 8-17 16 Apr 06 Generation Hex
174. 8-18 23 Apr 06 The Torn Identity
175. 8-19 30 Apr 06 The Jung and the Restless
176. 8-20 07 May 06 Gone with the Witches
177. 8-21 14 May 06 Kill Billie: Vol. 2
178. 8-22 21 May 06 Forever Charmed

[Emmett]

Mid to late S1 certainly is when it had the growing the beard moment.