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Post by charmedfan4evr on Sept 10, 2007 20:52:12 GMT -5
Nope, Season 2 will always be the rock-bottom of Charmed for me. Oh no, not for me ! That's way on top of my list. Season 8 will always be the rock-bottom of Charmed for me. |
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Post by mom2wyattnchris on Sept 11, 2007 9:23:37 GMT -5
I will have to agree....Season 8 bores me a bit. I do like the last couple episodes tho...I thought the last one was a good show ending. (but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it)
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Post by ljones on Sept 11, 2007 12:02:35 GMT -5
Everything - aside from one or two episodes - from mid-Season Four to the end of the series was crap to me.
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Post by marienomad on Sept 12, 2007 0:52:07 GMT -5
It went way off track for me on season five. The way they treated Cole and more magical creatures. It starts to feel like a very different show.
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 12, 2007 1:29:45 GMT -5
Well, Season 2 was the only season where I actually stopping watching. Season 8 at least held my attention.
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 12, 2007 18:06:52 GMT -5
Gosh, this picture is so depressing. Am I to envision a ski slope where we start going downhill from the very beginning? Am I to imagine a ride such as the one at Six Flags - Superman, I believe - where I am shot like a bullet in the air, then shiver in fear as we hurtle backwards back to the beginning? (You can choose the pinnacle whenever you wish: end of Season 3, season 4, halfway through season 6 - who cares!). Or, am I to picture this as Paige would? Charmed was a high-stakes roller coaster ride. Season 1 grab a hold of us and then moved us steadily up a long incline. Season 2 drops us down a bit. Then, we regained momentum towards the end of Season 2 and gathered speed through Season 3. The bottom dropped out of us at the end of Season 3. For me, Season 4 brought us back up to new heights, as did Season 5 (first half). Yes, there were dips along the way, but there were peaks as well. Then, there was a big drop during the second half of Season 5 with a recovery during Season 6 (though it never truly regained the stellar heights of Seasons 3, 4 or 5). Season 7 went up and down as well. Then, Season 8 saw a steady gain in momentum till the big drop when Leo disappears. The fall was pretty steady until we recovered for the final thrill: Kill Billie, Volume 2 and Forever Charmed.
Yes, a roller coaster. That's how I would describe it!
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Post by xkaylaxraex on Sept 14, 2007 16:26:56 GMT -5
Afraid of what? Why weren't the writers able to maintain some kind of continuity about Piper's fears?
*In "From Fear to Eternity", she had a fear of flying.
*In "A Witch's Tail", she apparently had a fear of water, due to how Patty had died (wasn't this supposed to be Prue's fear?)
*In "Sympathy For a Demon", we are told that she has a fear of spiders.
Which is it?
Now, I am sorry but why can't someone be afraid of all these things. And she wasn't necessarily afraid of drowning. She was afraid of leaving her baby without a mother just like her mom did.
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Post by foxfire on Sept 15, 2007 10:50:38 GMT -5
What was wrong with season two? I actually think it's pretty good. It was the season that really got into developping the characters better and offered a Leo alternative for Piper. It had "Animal Pragmatism" too, that's one of my favourite episodes!
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 15, 2007 15:35:15 GMT -5
Poor episodes, poor writing.
In theory it was *supposed to* develop the characters better, but aside from Piper's love life, the other plotlines (Phoebe going back to school, Prue changing careers) ended up being abandoned.
One of my least favorite episodes...aside from a few witty one-liners from Piper and Phoebe.
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Post by ljones on Sept 16, 2007 14:58:38 GMT -5
Or perhaps the writers could not maintain a continuity about Piper's fears. If Piper was afraid of leaving her baby without a mother, shouldn't she be expressing this fear throughout the series instead of just one episode?
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Post by Triad on Sept 16, 2007 16:32:39 GMT -5
Poor episodes, poor writing. In theory it was *supposed to* develop the characters better, but aside from Piper's love life, the other plot lines (Phoebe going back to school, Prue changing careers) ended up being abandoned. I disagree, but we do have our own opinions. Season 2 had some very good episodes. Ms. Hellfire, Awakened, Pardon my Past, Chick Flick, Witch Trial, Morality Bites, P3H2O, and Astral Monkey come to my mind. I guess it's a matter of taste, but I do find that saying Season 2 in general was bad to "poor episodes/writing" is a bit harsh, because there are in fact good quality episodes in Season 2. And true, the Piper love triangle did over-lap Prue's job change, and Phoebe's college story lines. However, they were hardly "abandoned" Those storyline just took on a lesser role and they did still continue in Season 3, like Phoebe's Graduation, and many appearances of Photographer Prue. Just my two cents. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 16, 2007 17:27:30 GMT -5
I thought that Season 2 had a few good episodes, but overall I found it to be a very mediocre season. And it seemed as if the whole story had stagnated. I wonder if Burge had remained with the show, would it continue to stagnate.
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 16, 2007 18:32:44 GMT -5
I agree with you about those particular episodes you listed (with the exception of "Witch Trial")...but every other season of Charmed had even more high-quality episodes. A handful of good episodes don't make up for the overall poorness of Season 2 as a whole.
Some - - but again, not as many as in Seasons 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
They popped up on occasion in S3, but the development of Prue's career and Phoebe's education were also overshadowed in S3 by the Cole/Phoebe saga, the Leo/Piper wedding storyline (which also eventually fizzled out), and the Prue-centric episodes dealing with other aspects of Prue's life.
The only reason S3 was extremely high-quality, as a whole, is because, unlike S2, a majority of the episodes in S3 managed to be extremely creative with magic and the supernatural elements, aside from the occasional disappointments ("We All Scream For Ice Cream," "The Demon Who Came in From The Cold").
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Post by MarAcev on Sept 16, 2007 19:47:30 GMT -5
So did season 5 and a lot of people hate it.
Heh, I guess it was bound to disappear when they actually got married, right?
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Post by foxfire on Sept 16, 2007 21:04:15 GMT -5
I think that season two was driven primarily by the Charmed Ones personal lives (which would later take the back seat during the Cole saga). I think they didn't really give enough "Phoebe goes to school" scenes. Season two was a really important season, it featured a lot of changes and really set up the third season. I think that season two had some of the best episodes of the series ("Morality Bites" anyone?) so really, I still don't see it as one of the worst.
The only thing different about season two was that it didn't really have anything in the way of "Big Bads" (just like season five).
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Post by vandergraafk on Sept 17, 2007 11:23:05 GMT -5
Hasn't anybody figured out that a person's reaction to a story may be positive/negative/neutral? That reaction is purely subjective, although it may be enabled by certain elements of the story construction, as well as the background music and the scene setting. Whether a story itself is good or bad can certainly be examined - at least on an intersubjective basis. That is, there are literary standards, adapted, as always, for the specific medium, in this case TV, that can be applied when assessing a given story. Now, if you wish to ignore these "conventions" and just spout off about this or that, then that's your choice, as Paige might say. But, then: don't expect to convince anyone else of the wisdom of your opinion.
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 18, 2007 22:18:23 GMT -5
Piper began being neglected as a character way before that, in Season 3.
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Post by MarAcev on Sept 19, 2007 17:33:57 GMT -5
I don't argue with that. Piper and sometimes Leo were important in the first three episodes of the season, then, they were expendable. Not even their wedding was about them. Can you tell I can't let go of that one?
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Post by whitelightertony on Sept 20, 2007 12:28:50 GMT -5
Neither can I, MarAcev.
Not to mention how ridiculous it was that Piper didn't even bother to freeze the inspector in "Death Takes A Halliwell."
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Post by foxfire on Sept 21, 2007 17:02:20 GMT -5
I just finished season eight last night and I can actually say that it seems to be the season where the Charmed Ones truly realize just how far they've strayed from the "greater good". Their selfishness is played upon within the last few episodes and it really brings up the question of, after years of demon fighting, shouldn't they be allowed to be selfish?
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