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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 6, 2007 0:07:38 GMT -5
I was randomly pondering something today in school. I have done that a lot this semester because two out of my three classes are boring as hell. hehe  Anyway it seems to me like there were a few instances in the fourth season(and possibly the seasons after that as well but I am most familiar with season four since its all I own right now) where it seemed like Leo and Paige had a little bit of chemistry going on. - First in Paige from the Past There was the whole thing with the two of them on her journey to come to terms with her past. In the beginning it was not shown or specifically specified, but Either Leo was the first to get her to say why she froze in the parking lot while Piper and Cole pulled a woman out of a mirror image of her parents' deaths, or she for some reason chose him to go to instead of her sisters. Either way he was the first to find out.
Then at the beginning of the journey into her past she is discouraged because her father found cigarettes in her room and is then talking to her mother abut it saying that she had the nerve to 'sweet' her way out of it by giving him a big hug. As she listens from outside the door she gets discouraged from continuing the journey to which Leo replies " Don't worry You can do it" and there was something in his voice I thought too like something soothing. Now I know that is more likely more of a guide/brother in law thing but he could have chosen a different phrase such as "You have to talk to your parents its part of your journey" or something like that. So its more the choice of words.
At the end of the journey he then lets her cry on his shoulder as she watches the car burn with her parents inside it after he stops her from jumping in to try to save them.
- Then there's Saving Private Leo. In the scene where Paige finds Leo at Maria's house crying over her body. Not too much happened there except her trying to tell him that he is a good person and that he is not responsible for Rick and Nathan killing Maria. But when he says to her "These are my demons not yours" I almost expect her to remind him of how he helped her face similar demons, she blamed herself for her parents' deaths and he blamed himself for Rick and Nathans' deaths. So I thought the whole now she is trying to tell him that its not his fault after he helped her realize that it was not her fault had a little something to it. But I may be exaggerating this one.
- Then in A Knight to Remember Piper and Phoebe had jumped into the Enchantress' portal after her leaving Paige and Leo alone to figure out how to get to them. Now nothing really happened here besides him encouraging her to come up with a spell by reminding her that she is a powerful witch and that her past self should prove that, but this is the third time in season four alone where she and Leo are in a scene alone. Because they could have very well had it be Phoebe who got left behind with Leo or even Piper but it was Paige. And yes they had her chose to go out and face her fairytale alone and since it is her fairytale I guess that kind of makes sense.
- Lastly and most strongly, in Witchstock Hippie Leo flirts with her! No one can deny this one!
Just some interesting thoughts Like it was some kind of abandoned idea or something; that I was having to keep me from falling asleep in Math class. You may think it stupid but it seemed interesting to me earlier, more interesting than multiplying polynomials anyway hehe. NOTE: I am in NO WAY trying to pose question of weather or not Leo would have been better with Paige than Piper! I truly believe that Piper and Leo are perfect, nor of the idea of Paige and Leo as a couple its just that they seemed to me to have a little tiny bit of chemistry. Those are NOT my topic. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 6, 2007 0:25:12 GMT -5
I agree with you completely totally. And I *do* think that Paige and Leo would've made the better pair and wish that Piper and Leo hadn't gotten married before Paige became part of the scene. Seeing Leo make a choice between Piper and Paige could've been very interesting. Since Paige is half-whitelighter, she would've understood his need to take care of his charges better and he would still be a whitelighter now. And their kids would be 3/4's whitelighter, not just half--Wyatt could've handled his powers easier.
I'll always think that Dan would've made Piper a better husband once he knew and accepted magic the way Henry did (or, for that matter, Henry would've made Piper a better husband), because he would've made her homelife more normal in a way that Leo never could until he became a lot less than he was. Dan or Henry could've kept Piper happy and stop her from whining so much.
Unfortunately *sigh* the show has made it clear that it *is* Piper and Leo *are* soulmates, so they belong together, just like Paige and Henry do. Cupid (and I don't mean Coop) isn't always good at bringing together the best-suited couples, especially in television shows when happy couples tend to be boring couples! Part of the reason why I continue to wish that when Chris exploded Leo's atoms at the end of S5, they had *stayed* exploded!
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 6, 2007 1:50:10 GMT -5
This would have been cool but in my opinion with Piper being the final choice. Although Paige and Leo could be cute together, I can see it anyway. Plus they did at times seem to have a pretty good Whitelighter to part whitelighter bond. The first show of this being in Size Matters when she went to him about the creepy house giving her the hibbie jibbies.
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Post by whitelightertony on Dec 6, 2007 20:54:31 GMT -5
I don't think the writers ever had plans to give Leo and Paige romantic feelings for each other, if that's what you mean.
Although I did read a rumor that Kern wanted to do a Phoebe-Cole-Paige love triangle in Season 5, but Holly, Alyssa, and Rose hated the idea and put up a united front against Kern to kill the idea.
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 6, 2007 22:01:53 GMT -5
I don't think the writers ever had plans to give Leo and Paige romantic feelings for each other, if that's what you mean. Although I did read a rumor that Kern wanted to do a Phoebe-Cole-Paige love triangle in Season 5, but Holly, Alyssa, and Rose hated the idea and put up a united front against Kern to kill the idea. No not remantic feelings there just seemed to be some Chemistry. |
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Post by ljones on Dec 7, 2007 17:36:13 GMT -5
I don't think the writers ever had plans to give Leo and Paige romantic feelings for each other, if that's what you mean. Although I did read a rumor that Kern wanted to do a Phoebe-Cole-Paige love triangle in Season 5, but Holly, Alyssa, and Rose hated the idea and put up a united front against Kern to kill the idea. No not remantic feelings there just seemed to be some Chemistry. Too bad. Julian and Rose had CHEMISTRY. Come to think of it, he had chemistry with Holly in S7. |
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 8, 2007 3:17:07 GMT -5
No not remantic feelings there just seemed to be some Chemistry. Too bad. Julian and Rose had CHEMISTRY. Come to think of it, he had chemistry with Holly in S7. Julian and Rose had Chemistry? You do mean the actors right because Cole hated Paige, he tried to create a world where she did not exist! |
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Post by ~.:Alysha:.~ on Dec 11, 2007 6:24:31 GMT -5
Yeah it would of been interesting to see Leo and Paige have a bit of a fling but i think that Leo and Piper are a great couple! They just look so right for each other. Cole and Phoebe were the perfect couple!! I really like them together and I wished that Cole Hadn't turned evil again..that really upset me lol...they were so cute together!  oh well not much u can do now!! Did u know that Alyssa and Brian had a thing in season 2 or 3?? I could never really picture them together though, weird! |
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Post by ljones on Dec 11, 2007 12:41:32 GMT -5
Too bad. Julian and Rose had CHEMISTRY. Come to think of it, he had chemistry with Holly in S7. Julian and Rose had Chemistry? You do mean the actors right because Cole hated Paige, he tried to create a world where she did not exist! Even characters who "hate" each other can have chemistry. Also, during the first half of S4, Cole and Paige actually liked each other. But in regard to chemistry between Rose and Julian, check out "Enter the Demon". |
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Post by Assassin Witch on Dec 11, 2007 14:28:27 GMT -5
Personally, Julian had more chemistry with Shannen, Holly, and Rose than he did with Alyssa. Especially in The Good, The Bad, and The Cursed (naturally since J/S were dating) and The Seven Year Witch.
As for Paige and Leo. There was a fan fic that had to do with something like this. I can't remember what it's called. ES! Come back to this thread. I'm sure you've read this story. After Prue dies and Paige comes to them and Leo and her "have" to be together and an island is involved. I'm sure you've read it.
colehellsangel - those are interesting points you've mentioned, but to me it's just Leo doing his job. It's why he's a great whitelighter in S1-4. (And then they kinda dropped it. *sighs*)
As for Witchstock. I don't want to think about that episode. It was out of character for most people, especially Leo. I would NEVER had believed (Okay, I still don't) that Leo would actually engage in that stuff. I figured he was given to TCO because of all the good he had done and the type of whitelighter he was, which was nothing like Witchstock showed. I don't think he'd ever really thought of a woman romantically after his wife Lily, and then Piper.
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 11, 2007 15:59:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the input Assassin Witch, that sounds like a very interesting story although the stranded on an island thing is kind of Cloche. But it still sounds very interesting.
And yes I agree that it is most likely him just being a good whitelighter but my math class got so boring at times it was a drug. I must have been a little high that day lol. Glad finals are next week. The thought it still interesting though at least to me.
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Post by marissa08 on Dec 11, 2007 19:19:08 GMT -5
I agree that this would have been an interesting twist, but it's not really very... logical, for lack of a better word. Paige and Leo get along really well, i know the whole whitelighter thing helps with that, but to me, their relationship has never seemed even slightly romantic. I'm sure they "love" each other, but in a brother-sister way. I don't think Paige would ever see Leo any other way. Remember in that one episode, i'm blanking on which one, but Phoebe and Paige get sent back in time in Piper and Leo's memories. Past Phoebe was saying something about Leo being hot or whatever, and then Paige said to present Phoebe, "Eww, you had a thing for Leo?" or something like that. So it seems like she would never really look at him that way.
Sorry if it sounds like i'm shooting down your idea, cuz that's not what i was trying to do. I agree it would have been very interesting, but just very unlikely.
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Post by Assassin Witch on Dec 11, 2007 20:25:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the input Assassin Witch, that sounds like a very interesting story although the stranded on an island thing is kind of Cloche. But it still sounds very interesting. I'm just trying to see if Es knows the fic. Everyone is on the island, though. I hope Es knows what I'm talking about. She's the Charmed FanFic guru and knows all..lol |
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Post by vandergraafk on Dec 11, 2007 20:38:19 GMT -5
Vandergraafk has received another page from Paige. "Ewww. Me and Leo, you've just got to be kidding. It was gross enough in Witchstock... Okay, okay. I know I'm into all that retro stuff. My whole wardrobe - except for my Jimmy Choos - is probably right out of somebody's closet. Like somebody dead! But, flannel? Do you really think I could get romantically involved with somebody wearing flannel? What am I supposed to be - like Paul Bunyan's whitelighter moll? Did you ever think about what I want, did ya?" (A violent shiver shakes vandergraafk's body. Apparently, Paige is really grossed out by the very mention of flannel, Paul Bunyan or both.)
Now calm, Paige continues: "I like my guys a bit odd. You know like Max. He was cool even if it did flame out after a fashion. And, then there was Glen. Now, he WAS cool. But, Leo, oh my god! Piper would kill me! Besides, he and Piper make a good couple, a good boring couple ... Did I mention how gross this all seems? Uhhhhhh!" (Another, more violent shudder seizes hold of vandergraafk's body. The jolt slams vandergraafk against the wall. The connection broken, all vdggk can do is ponder why anyone would ever try to even think about this, especially when it renders him helpless before a full frontal facial facade!)
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Post by ljones on Dec 11, 2007 21:16:22 GMT -5
I must admit that there were plenty of times when I found Piper and Leo lacking any real chemistry. Um . . . they had their differences - namely Piper's cynical nature and Leo's more benign one.
But both are introverts. And a couple consisting of two introverts have a tendency to eventually bore me - like Willow and Tara in "BUFFY". However, I guess I simply learned to adapt to Piper and Leo being a couple over the years. But even to this day, I still believe that Piper had more chemistry with Mark from "Dead Man Dating" and Josh in "Is There a Woogy in the House?". And yes, both men are extroverts.
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 12, 2007 0:16:57 GMT -5
I agree that this would have been an interesting twist, but it's not really very... logical, for lack of a better word. Paige and Leo get along really well, i know the whole whitelighter thing helps with that, but to me, their relationship has never seemed even slightly romantic. I'm sure they "love" each other, but in a brother-sister way. I don't think Paige would ever see Leo any other way. Remember in that one episode, i'm blanking on which one, but Phoebe and Paige get sent back in time in Piper and Leo's memories. Past Phoebe was saying something about Leo being hot or whatever, and then Paige said to present Phoebe, "Eww, you had a thing for Leo?" or something like that. So it seems like she would never really look at him that way. Sorry if it sounds like i'm shooting down your idea, cuz that's not what i was trying to do. I agree it would have been very interesting, but just very unlikely. I understand what you are saying and this thread was not my idea of Leo and Paige as a couple just noticing that there seemed to me to be some Chemistry. Oh yeah I saw that you were summoning a certain person's attention with that but as I read it it did sound interesting. Where is this from? Yeah Piper and Leo did have their moments where it was like "how the hell are these two a couple!?" But thats why they say opposites attract. I think they were perfect together  |
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Post by vandergraafk on Dec 12, 2007 11:46:26 GMT -5
I channel Paige a lot! She really didn't warm to the idea of being put in an imaginary relationship with Leo! Uhhhhh, I can feel another violent shudder coming on. Gotta hide!
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Post by colehellsangel on Dec 12, 2007 12:21:58 GMT -5
Oh I see you were expressing your opinion through pretending that its her saying the stuff. Thats cute |
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Post by vandergraafk on Dec 13, 2007 11:43:11 GMT -5
Who's pretending?
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Post by claygee on Dec 13, 2007 12:47:56 GMT -5
Hmmm i never really thought of Paige and Leo having any particular chemistry - i mean they do share similarities as they are both whitelighters, but in my opinion that is as far as it goes.
I think Leo being the sisters' whitelighter, he had to be seen as being available to be their confident and a shoulder for them to cry on.
as for Piper and Leo - i think they make a terrific couple. As Pheobe said in the episode where Prue ruined Piper's wedding " Leo and Piper's love has touched us all"
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oh well not much u can do now!! Did u know that Alyssa and Brian had a thing in season 2 or 3?? I could never really picture them together though, weird!
