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Post by Xenith on Jul 20, 2006 15:07:28 GMT -5
Great story Esmeralda, and definitely much better than the epsiode we got. (Haven't gotten to yours yet FC, though from what I've heard about it I'm looking forward to starting it when I get the chance. I had stopped reading finale fics cause I didn't want to be tempted to borrow ideas...)
Ooh and I got a fanwank as to how Melinda could be part whitelighter. If the Elders just bound Leo's powers rather than stripped them, then they would still be in him to pass on.
Like how Ronny was able to use Phoebe's empathy after it was taken out of Phoebe. The Tribunal just bound Phoebe's powers so that she couldn't use them, but they were still in her, and still a part of her.
And since I don't recall anything coming out of Leo in Seven Year Witch, just him falling (where as most of the times when powers are stripped or swapped such as the girls or Cole's you usually see something rise out of them.) so odds are they might have just been bound.
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Post by prue on Jul 20, 2006 20:37:52 GMT -5
es, this is amazing! can't wait for you to post more!!!!
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 20, 2006 22:15:58 GMT -5
Thank you so much, guys!!! I TRULY appreciate it!! xenith, I like your fanwank a lot--it makes a ton of sense!! Does that mean that when Leo dies, he'd automatically become a whitelighter again?? Sorry, Piper, then I wish he'd died in that car accident!! (I miss my angel as anyone who has read some of my other fics knows, and Leo would've been SO much happy to be fulfilling his OWN destiny!)
Also, xenith, as long as you give me credit, feel free to steal whatever you want!! I'd be honored if someone liked one of my ideas enough to use it in their own fic!!
I'm glad you guys liked my scene between Grams and Piper. It was another thing I hated about the finale--GRAMS not wondering what happened to Prue or figuring it out for herself! Patty did, but not Grams! And I truly did love that scene in the past between Piper and Grams--I just didn't feel like Piper should've been the one watching it!
I'm sure you can figure out what Piper's response to Grams is going to be. That was another so-so cliffie, but the best one I could come up with at this point in the tale. Wondering whether the potion will work on the Jenkinses?? Let's find out!! CHAPTER NINETEEN Piper still smiled. “Yeah, I guess you were.” Just then the doorbell rang. “Go get it,” Grams told her. “Go get it!” Piper yelled to Paige. As always, Paige obeyed Piper and opened the door to find “Henry! What are you doing here?” and she felt bad about not letting him know how the time-travel trip had gone. He and Victor must’ve been worried silly. “Well, I haven’t heard from my wife in twelve hours, I start getting a bit worried, especially when she‘s a witch and Charmed and can have all sorts of evil coming after her,” and Paige realized that this Henry didn’t know anything about her time travel trip or the battle with the Jenkinses. “Well, I’m OK, I guess. We’re all OK, I guess. But I don’t know if we’re going to stay that way.” “What do you mean?” and he sounded worried. “Hopefully nothing to worry about right now, and hopefully something we can fix.” “You told me that you and your whitelighter got together,” Grams told Piper. “Like Patty and Sam,” and Piper nodded. “So did Paige marry a whitelighter, too?” “No, Henry’s mortal.” Grams sighed. “A whitelighter, a cupid and a mortal. Two out of three isn’t bad.” “Hey, you married four mortals!” Piper retorted, not telling her that Leo was no longer a whitelighter. “And now you know why I wish all of my girls hadn’t! Did Prue and Andy…” “They would’ve if they’d had a chance,” Piper answered quietly. Paige and Henry weren’t listening; they were still talking. Suddenly she had an idea. “Can you go out and buy a Scrabble game?” “A what?” “A Scrabble game. Somewhere in our future, all of our future, we have the time to have a life, not just to fight demons. Somewhere you and Coop are still alive, and he's with Phoebe, even if she hasn't accepted that yet. Somewhere Leo’s not frozen. And somewhere in that future, all six of us are playing Scrabble. Somehow or another, that’s the future we’re going to have! And we're going to start having that future by getting that Scrabble game!” Henry smiled. “Sound like a plan.” He leaned over and kissed her. “I’ll be back, and I’ll bring the game with me,” and Paige smiled as she watched him leave. “The potions are ready,” Piper announced. “Let’s get back to the Manor and see if my kids are back yet.” “Phoebe! Piper!” called Grams. “We’re ready to leave.” Phoebe led Young Piper out of her bedroom, where she had been regaling her younger older sister with tales of their adventures as the Charmed Ones. She finally understood how Chris felt around little Wyatt the last time he was here, although, of course, unlike Chris’ older brother, her older sister wasn’t evil. She’d also been having fun playing a different sort of game of catch--throwing things she no longer wanted to keep into the air, so Young Piper could either freeze or explode the object. Phoebe would always remember the shocked pleasure in the young girl’s eyes the first time she used each power. Now Young Piper asked eagerly, “Do we get to orb?“ Grams rolled her eyes: “She IS going to forget this, right?” and Paige and Phoebe giggled. Piper looked at her younger self. “Is that really me? Enjoying magic?” and that made Paige and Phoebe giggle harder.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 21, 2006 13:08:38 GMT -5
I don't think Paige has to be worried about Victor and Henry being worried about how things went. Now that she traveled back in time, they would've forgotten that the explosion at the Manor and Piper and Phoebe's deaths ever happened. lol I thought it was cute how when Penny asked if Paige married a whitelighter too, in your version she added, "Like Patty and Sam?" And I loved how Paige insisted that Henry go buy them a Scrabble game! I bet they'll be playing that before this story is up. And another thing that REALLY made me happy was that Grams asked if Prue and Andy never got married. And the sadness in Piper's voice when she said they would have, had they had the chance. It made sense her to want to know that. Andy and Prue never got the recognition they deserves. They just both got thrown through something and forgot. (I think Andy deserved to be in the finale just as much as Prue did. And Cole, who I still believe never got a proper send off.) I liked how Phoebe and Young Piper spent time together, and you referenced that to Chris and Wyatt playing together. And then Piper's last line was so cute! But I do have one little grumble about that.... Okay, I get how Young Piper can say spells and such, because their ability to say spells wasn't something that was ever bound. It was innate. But how did 10-year-old Piper get her powers? Grams never read a spell, nor did she use a potion on Piper to unbind her powers. And even if the connection with active powered Paige and unborn Phoebe somehow unbound her freezing power when they activated the Power of Three, how did she get her exploding power? As by the time Piper was four, her powers were bound and she had developed advanced freezing abilities, but not exploding powers. She didn't get that until season three (when she was 27). So it doesn't make sense for her to have her exploding abilities as well. Greeeeat chapter! Update soon.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 21, 2006 20:10:15 GMT -5
I thought there was an episode where when someone went ahead to a time when their powers were unbounded, they could access those powers, but I could very well be wrong--I may be thinking of the wrong show. What I should've done is when Grams is leading Young Piper to the living room, she should unbound her powers at that time and then rebind them before they're returned. Something else for Charmed Forever II, I guess!! But you're absolutely right about Piper's exploding powers; no way Young Piper should be able to access that!! Although I think Phoebe would've enjoyed watching her just freeze stuff and Young Piper would enjoy that, too!!
And Paige, who started out VERY intelligent (enough to go to college and become a social worker) but turned into the clutzy ditzy one, (along with sweet, gentle Piper turning into the bossy, whiney one and loveable Phoebe turning into the slutty one--GRRRRRR! at Kern!) is confused enough by time travel. Last time she saw Henry was when she and Coop heart-orbed out, so of course she'd think that Henry and Victor are still worried (in some timeline they are... Time travel can be SO confusing!!)
So now that they have the potion made, all they need to do is find Billie and Christy. What happens when they find them?? Let's find out!CHAPTER TWENTY Once they took the Paige Express back to the Manor, Phoebe set the Book of Shadows down while Piper and Grams passed out bottles of potion. Piper looked determined. “Now all we need to do is find Billie and Christy.” “You don’t have to look far,” and Billie Jenkins stepped cautiously into the room. “Can we talk?” Piper growled and started to throw her vial, but Phoebe grabbed her arm. “I want to hear her out.” “Please let me talk,” Billie begged. Grams nodded. Piper crossed her arms, still clutching her vials of potion, her face closed and cold. “Start talking. Make it snappy.” “Oh, you guys!” Billie wailed. “I’m so very sorry for everything I did! But I was so very glad to have Christy back that I never dreamed we were being manipulated!” Both Paige and Phoebe sighed in sympathy, but Piper remained unmoved. “And how do we know that this isn’t a trap?” Billie hung her head. “You don’t, but it isn’t! I swear it! You gotta believe me! Christy always talked about her friends, but she never said who they were. She finally did. It’s the Triad! I never dreamed that the ones who kidnapped her are the ones she called her friends! I remember reading about them in the Book of Shadows. They’re bad! Real bad! Servants of the Source! And even though that Cole guy vanquished them, somehow they came back. They wanted to use our powers to destroy you and destroy us, I’m sure! Once Christy let it slip who they were, I tried to convince her that they’re bad news, but she refused to believe me. She really thinks that they’re good and what they want is for the best! They’ve brainwashed her, you guys, they really have! I’m so, so sorry! I should’ve known better! I really should’ve! But I was just so very glad to have my sister back!” Looking at her own sisters, remembering the way she felt when she thought they were dead, Paige understood. Piper and Phoebe didn’t. “Where’s Christy now?” Phoebe demanded, still clutching her own vials of potion. “Probably still at Magic School, looking for a better way to kill you guys, her and Dumain both.” “Who’s Dumain?” Piper asked. “A demon who will stop at nothing. He’s the one who wanted to use our powers to bring the Triad back for good. He pretended to be our invisible friend when we were kids and told Christy that the Triad were her friends. That‘s why Christy trusts him and trusted the Triad.” “Mom! Mom! We’re back!” At the sound of Melinda’s voice, they all walked back into the conservatory to find Piper’s three future children waiting, along with Coop. Phoebe looked around for Patty. “Where’s Mom?” she asked. “She stayed behind with Grandpa,” Wyatt told them, a sparkle of humor in his eyes. “They wanted to talk.” Phoebe and Paige had noticed that sparkle and exchanged glances. “So what was that reunion like?” Paige wanted to know. Now Melinda burst out laughing. “Grandmother Patty jumped him! Oh, was Grandpa surprised!” and now Coop nodded, his eyes twinkling, as he, Phoebe and Paige joined the laughter, while Chris and Piper both rolled their eyes at all of them. “Later! All of you!” Piper barked. She turned on Wyatt. “Did you find out when you lost your powers?” Wyatt sobered up and nodded. Chris told them. “Grandpa told us that someone took little Wyatt before five yesterday. And Wyatt didn’t come back. Little Chris,” and he stood a bit taller as he realized the only thing he'd done with his own powers was save his brother. “I orbed out and brought him back.” Melinda nodded. “Grandpa also told us that Wyatt used his powers to cheat at cards just a short time before that.” Piper rolled her eyes at the card-cheating, but nodded. “That must’ve been when you lost your powers, Wyatt.” “Who took him?” Phoebe asked. “It was Dumain,” Billie quietly told them. Piper’s eyes blazed. “Why did Dumain take my son?” Billie ducked her head in shame, but admitted it. “He had to. We needed his powers in order to summon the Hollow.” “Is that when you took his powers?” Paige asked. “We had no choice!” Billie tried to defend herself and her sister, but it was too late.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 21, 2006 20:53:39 GMT -5
I loved the way Piper stood strong and refused to believe Billie, unlike Paige and Phoebe. I think one of the best scenes of season 8 was seeing Piper straddle Billie, and beat the crap out of her. (Before Leo just HAD to pull her off.) And I love how you keep using the phrase, "the Paige Express." So funny. And last but not least, the way Melinda so happily told everyone what happened at Victor's was really cute. A bit of a tug at your heart, too, knowing that Patty and Victor won't make it.
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Post by prue on Jul 21, 2006 20:59:55 GMT -5
i LLLLLLLoved it es! i just love the way you write... i feel like i can see the pictures so clearly in my head, as if i am there... that is the making of a very great author~~~!!!!!
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 22, 2006 14:50:39 GMT -5
Thanks, guy, I *truly* appreciate that!! Especially your compliment, Prue; that's one of the best ones you can give an author, especially because I don't think I do that good of a job describing scenes; I'm more of a plot-person. Now 4Ever's Fourever Charmed, that one has some fantastic descriptions!! You've gotta read hers when you get the chance, even if you'll probably want to skim past the parts that are the same as the original finale!
:lol Funny that you mentioned the fight at the end of Kill Billie Vol 2, 4Ever, because that's EXACTLY what inspired the first part of the next chapter!! What would that scene have been like if Leo HADN'T stopped Piper?? Now, granted I may have gone a *bit* overboard, but since this is the only revenge we get on Billie for spoiling most of S8, well, let's say I had fun!! Enjoy!CHAPTER TWENTY-ONE With a scream of “You used my three-year-old son!” Piper was on her, pulling out Billie’s hair in clumps, including the black roots, while kicking her shins. “Piper!” protested Grams. “We don’t have time for this!” Both Phoebe and Paige shook their heads. “Just let her, Grams. This has been building up for a long time!” Now Piper was slapping Billie across the face, while kicking her in the stomach, screaming at her the whole time. Her three future children just watched in shock, reminding themselves never to make their mother that mad! And Young Piper was so surprised, she actually ran out of the room! Billie didn’t even try to defend herself against Piper’s rage, knowing she deserved every bit of it. She just kept muttering. “I’m so sorry, Piper! I’m really sorry! I wish I’d known better! I’m so, so very sorry. I shouldn’t have believed Christy. But she’s my sister. She played me so well. Just like Dumain and the Triad played her! Oh, I’m so very, very, very sorry!” The tears rolled down her bruised and battered face, but they were from shame and sorrow, not from pain. Piper finally no longer saw red. When she could finally hear what Billie was saying and could hear the sincerity in her voice, she finally stopped beating on the bleached-blonde. ”Please forgive me?” Billie begged. “I’ll consider it if you can help us get Wyatt and Chris their powers back and help us get Leo back.” ”I’ll do whatever I can. I just want to be your friend again.” “That will take some doing.” “We have to use Chris’ time spell to go even farther back in time,” Phoebe decided. “To before Dumain took Wyatt,” and Piper nodded. Just then Young Piper came back into the room and walked up to Grams. “Grams, can we go home soon? Back to our time? I mean, I like getting to have powers here--they’re fun--and I like hearing Phoebe’s stories, but I miss playing with my sisters who are more my age, especially Prue.” Phoebe had merely told Young Piper that Prue was away. Now she stared at Young Piper. “You know something, guys? I’m beginning to think that maybe Mom is right. Maybe vanquishing Christy isn’t the right way to do this.” “Vanquish her?“ Tears started streaming down Billie’s battered cheeks again. “You’re going to vanquish my sister?” “We have to,“ Paige tried to explain. “She’s evil.” “But she’s still her sister,” Phoebe put in. “You guys didn’t give up on me when I was Cole’s queen of the underworld and I was just as evil, maybe more. Maybe we don’t have to give up on Billie’s sister either.”
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 22, 2006 23:38:35 GMT -5
Phoebe may have been the Queen of the Underworld, but at least she still saw fit to save innocents. That's way more than Christy ever did (except to pretend to save them, to make The Charmed Ones look like the evil ones). Anywho, I loved how Piper beat th crap out of Billie. It was long, LONG overdue! I kinda wish Piper had broken her nose or something. (Sorry. I REALLY hate Billie!) And I'm glad Piper didn't just forgive her when she asked. She definitely hasn't earned it. Great job. I can't wait for more!
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 23, 2006 10:13:21 GMT -5
*sigh* Hating a character isn't a good enough reason for getting rid of them, 4Ever. Believe me, try as I did (and, believe me, I *did* try), I just couldn't come up with a scenario where Piper should get Leo back after killing a fellow witch, making the Halliwells as evil as the Jenkinses and setting up a Morality Bites-type future as compared to the Scrabble future! Revenge isn't a good enough reason--the Charmed Ones are supposed to protect the innocent, not punish the guilty! Wrong Things Done for The Right Reason Are Still Wrong! And again, when it's B&C who either vanquish each other or vanquish themselves like in yours, well, why should Piper get Leo back for that?? That was another one of those "really irritated the crap" part of the finale for me! BILLIE won the battle, not the Charmed Ones! They helped, but if BILLIE hadn't survived after Kill BIllie Vol 2, if BILLIE hadn't realized that Dumain was evil, if BILLIE hadn't used HER power to bring the Charmed Ones to the past and if BILLIE hadn't vanquished her own sister, she and Christy would still be evil! Why should Piper be rewarded for THAT?? Leo should've remained frozen!!
If getting Leo back wasn't part of the whole thing, I would've vanquished both B&C in an instant, because I truly do hate B&C as much as you guys do for the way they dominated the final season, a season that should've been dominated by the Charmed Ones--the reason why I'm being finicky about letting at least one Charmed One be in every scene of *my* finale! (the reason we didn't pop over to Victor's with the kids and get to see the reunion ourselves). But as is...
If I had my druthers and if getting Leo back wasn't part of it, Piper would've vanquished Billie after Billie vanquished Chris! And Chris' vanquish would've been longer and a heckova lot more painful for ruining Charmed long before Billie and Christy had a chance! He dominated S6 the way B&C dominated S8, also making PIPER dominate the rest of the series with the other two as much of a supplemental character as Grams, Patty or Darryl! That's NOT what Charmed is supposed to be about!
That, naturally, won't work. Chris has to live, fooey anyway! Ditto for B&C, fooey anyway! If someone could just give me a proper scenario where the Halliwells do NOT vanquish witches and the Jenkinses do NOT vanquish themselves, BUT the Jenkinses ARE actually witches (and, no, they're not demons in disguise nor do they become demons, or Paige would've never been assigned to Billie as her whitelighter in the first place), so there would be a logical reason why Piper can convince the Angel of Destiny that she deserves to have back the man who clipped his wings and stopped taking care of his charges and stopped being their guide and stopped healing their injuries all just for love of her, and who she then turned around and treated as her own private errand boy because he had no identity of his own in our time and who was destined to die in that car crash (the reason he's a Leocicle), I'd vanquish both Billie and Christy in an INSTANT!! But no one's given me that scenario, so I have to stick with mine, much as I know how very unpopular it's going to be!
But if B&C DO have to live, see if you think this scenario would work: CHAPTER TWENTY-TWO “What do you mean?” Grams asked. Phoebe didn’t respond. She simply turned to Billie. “Billie, how much do you love your sister?” Billie thought about it, puzzlement and confusion on her face. “No way I can love my sister the way she is now,” she admitted. “I hate the fact that she’s evil and wants to kill you guys. But I keep thinking about the Christy I knew as a kid, before she was kidnapped. I love my big sister very, very much. I wish I could have my big sister back, really back.” Phoebe grinned at Coop. “So let’s go get the sister you love!” Everyone but Coop looked confused, even Billie, so Phoebe explained. “If Coop could use the power of Paige’s love for Piper to bring Young Piper here to our time, why can’t he use the power of Billie’s love for her sister to bring Young Christy here, before she was kidnapped, and simply not send her back?” Piper thought about it, then nodded. “If there’s no Christy for the Triad to kidnap, there would be no evil plan.” Paige also nodded. “They need two sisters, so one could befriend us before the other turned her evil and destroy us.” Phoebe grinned, nodding before finishing. “Then we just do to her what Grams did to us--bind her powers!” Young Piper’s eyes almost popped out of her head. “Is that why I didn’t have powers before I came here?” Grams hugged her and promised to explain it all later--much later! Billie nodded. “It’s a good plan. As long as you add three things.” “What’s that?” Piper asked, still a bit suspiciously. “First, can we go back to just before Christy was taken?” Coop nodded. “If you can feel in your heart your love for Christy as she was at that moment, yes, I think I can do that.” “Why?” a still-suspicious Piper demanded. “That way I can vanquish Dumain, so he can’t do this to any other young witches. I would love to vanquish the demon who tried to turn my family evil, and who would‘ve without you, Phoebe.” Phoebe smiled. "I would've never thought of it if Mom hadn't pointed out that being kidnapped wasn't really Christy's fault--that she's truly an innocent." Piper nodded. “Done. What’s your second condition?” “Second, that after you bind Christy’s powers that rather than keeping her here, you send her back. My parents missed her so much and so did I. That way we can have the life we should've had. If you get rid of Dumain and bind her powers, she’s no longer a threat to you, and neither am I, because I wouldn’t have to hunt for her.” Coop shook his head. "That won't work. The current Christy would still be here and still be evil. She would simply blur into herself." Wyatt spoke up. "Well, what if you do something similar to what happened to Chris?" "What do you mean?" Piper asked. "Well, he came from a world where I was evil, came back here and blurred into Baby Chris. He still has the memory of that other world, but I'm not evil--the world he remembered isn't the world he's living in due to different circumstances." and Chris nodded before Wyatt continued. "If you could capture this Christy, who's evil, and bring her back and let her blur into Young Christy, and then get rid of Dumain, Young Christy would still have the memory of being evil, but wouldn't actually be evil herself, because the things that made Christy evil wouldn't happen to her. And if her powers are binded, no other evil creature could make her use them for evil." Piper nodded. “We can do that, too. What’s the third thing, Billie?” “Hearing Wyatt's solution, I can change what I was thinking and make it better. That you let me find myself and let me blur into myself and bind my powers, too.” Billie looked at Young Piper. “When I first got them, I thought they were fun, too. But now I know better. They’re not fun--they’re dangerous!”
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 24, 2006 10:23:51 GMT -5
Interesting idea. So will, because of this change in past events, mean that The Charmed Ones never come in contact with the Jenkins sisters? I'm so confused. Will Piper get Leo back, because the binding of Billie and Christy's powers voided the final battle? Hmm.
I'll say update soon, for everyone else who reads this. But I'm going to be on vacation the rest of this week (work week, I'm leaving tomorrow and returning Friday), so it won't do any good for me. lol So I won't be able to read or review until I come back on Friday.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 25, 2006 20:56:41 GMT -5
I hope you have/had a fantastic vacation, 4Ever!! I'm going to go ahead and update so you'll have one waiting for you to get back. If anyone else wants me to update before she returns, be sure to post a review and I will!! Hopefully this will help clear up some of the confusion, 4Ever!!
CHAPTER TWENTY-THREE
That got a huge smile out of Piper. “We can definitely do that."
Billie ducked her head and asked softly. "May I ask for one more favor, please?"
"What's that?" and for the first time, there was no suspicion in Piper's voice; there was almost a smile.
“That you let me be your friend again? Even if I’m not magical. Please?”
Piper could actually feel the hatred for the Jenkinses, especially Billie, that she had been harboring in her heart ever since Billie’s betrayal finally begin to melt. Opening her arms, she hugged Billie tight. “Of course, I will!” and the other two sisters came over to hug her, too.
Piper's kids were impressed--they knew their mother wasn't the "huggy" kind -- they only got hugs for very special reasons, getting most of the ones they wanted from their aunts..
“One thing first,” Paige suggested. “I’m not sure if Christy is going to want to see Billie all beaten up!” And she quickly cast her favorite spell:
"Let the object of objection become but a dream, As I cause the seen to be unseen."
Piper’s kids grinned as they watched Billie’s cuts and bruises seem to disappear. They’d used that spell many times and would always be grateful to their Aunt Paige for coming up with it.
“OK, now you're ready to go!“ Paige cried.
The others nodded after the others wished them luck, Paige orbed her Piper, Billie and Coop to Magic School. Much as Billie had thought, Christy and Dumain were both in the black room, trying to figure out some way of destroying the Halliwells without the Hollow.
Piper stepped in the room first. Using one hand, she froze Christy, then she used the other to explode Dumain, thoroughly enjoying watching his atoms spread all over the room before blowing away into dust.
"Hurry!" she called to the others, and Coop and Billie quickly surrounded Christy's still-frozen form. Coop put his hand on both Billie and Christy's shoulder, while Billie concentrated on feeling the love she still had for her big sister before she was kidnapped, and Coop used the power of that love to bring them both back in time.
No sooner did they heart-orb out than Paige orbed Piper back to the Manor, where they, Phoebe, Grams, Young Piper and Piper’s children waited anxiously. It seemed like only seconds before Coop returned, 8-year-old Christy clutching one of his hands while 6-year-old Billie clutched the other.
“Dumain?” Piper asked.
“Vanquished just as he was coming to see the girls but before he entered the house,” replied Coop, who had watched. “A very nice, neat vanquish. Young Christy was outside playing, so Christy blurred into her almost the instant she unfroze. Then we went inside and found Young Billie and Billie blurred into her."
Piper nodded her approval, then turned to Paige. “Book of Shadows?”
Paige nodded, still very happy to have Piper calling the shots again. She thrust out her arms and called, “Book of Shadows!” and immediately the Book orbed into her arms.
“Very good,” approved Grams, while Young Piper clapped her hands in delight. Piper’s children merely shrugged. They were used to Paige’s family calling for things they needed. It always irritated Chris and Wyatt that their cousin Henry Jr could do magic while they could remember doing it without actually being able to do so themselves.
Quickly the sisters found the right page in the Book, and then much as they had bounded Tyler, the young firestarter’s powers and Grams had bounded theirs, the Halliwells bounded the Jenkins’.
Both young Jenkinses were terrified by the whole thing and when they found they were going back home, they gladly went back to Coop. He told them that if they would just think how very much they loved their parents, he would bring them back home. The two young girls nodded and soon Coop heart-orbed out with them again.
When he heart-orbed back, Piper asked, "Well, did it work?"
Wyatt and Chris grinned at each other as they felt their powers flow through their bodies. "It sure did!" Wyatt cried.
Chris nodded. "Watch this!" and both of them orbed out to orb back across the room to stand on either side of their mother, making everyone cheer. The only one who didn't was Melinda. She'd enjoyed being the only kid in her immediate family with powers and was certain her brothers would be impossible to live with now, especially Wyatt, if his powers were truly as great as the others made them out to be. She was determined to figure a way to keep her both of her brother humble and use their powers the right way.
Phoebe was curious to find out if it truly worked, so she called Billie's college dorm. Sure enough, Billie was back to being a student, and although she remembered having them, she wanted nothing to do with her powers. Her older sister had never gone to college, but was now married and expecting her first child and also didn't want anything to do with powers. Christy's only fear was that she might pass on those powers to her child. Phoebe assured Billie that if the child showed any signs of powers that she and her sisters would bind them right away and Billie sighed in relef.
Then Piper asked Phoebe to ask Billie if she'd ever want to baby-sit Wyatt and Chris, and Billie cried out, "Sure!"
"Phoebe?" asked Grams. "May I speak with her please?"
Piper gave Grams a strange look, but Phoebe handed Grams the phone. Grams told Billie who she was and asked her if she remembered her from the other time, and Billie agreed that she did.
The whole time the sisters were binding the Jenkinses powers, Grams couldn't help staring at Young Christy. She’d had a glimpse of her older self when they had vanquished the Hollow, but she’d been too busy concentrating on that to really look at her closely. During the ceremony she could and staring, she couldn’t believe what she saw.
Now she asked Billie. “What’s the full name of your maternal grandfather?” At Billie’s confused "Huh?", Grams sighed impatiently--sounding very much like Chris--and clarified. “Your mother’s father. What’s his full name?”
There was a shrug in Billie's voice. “William Christopher Delaney. Christy and I were named after him.”
“Delaney. A rather common name. Does he look like your sister?”
Again there was a shrug in Billie's voice. “Well, he did. He died when we were very young, but Mom always had a picture of him and her mother sitting on the mant-” She stopped as she gasped in realization.
Grams nodded, "Just a minute, child." She then turned to her granddaughters. “Do you know you came very close to vanquishing your own cousins?”
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 31, 2006 11:29:47 GMT -5
Sorry, I know I took longer than I said I would. We actually went to San Francisco, if I didn't say that already. And our first night got screwed up, so we decided to stay another night. (Besides that, it was the only day we could get Alcatraz tickets, which I desperately wanted to see, and it was sold out until Tuesday. We had to go to some special hotel presentation, but it all worked out in the end.) Then I came home Saturday, planning to sign online, only to be asked to babysit until 1:30 in the morning (a four month old little girl), followed by work from 10:00 A.M. - 4:00 P.M., and then computer time. But my Mom decided that as soon as I got up from my seat for a few minutes, that it was HER turn to use the computer "for a few minutes." (She ended up using it ALL night.) Which is why I'm only reviewing now. *breather* What? Billie and Christy are their COUSINS? I don't understand. How? Why? Oy....I think I need to go lay down. You, uhm, need to get back here soon and explain this to me. I'm going to have a fit. lol
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 31, 2006 17:09:26 GMT -5
lol, 4Ever! I wondered what you would think of this special twist. It's the only thing that made sense to me for spending so DARN much time of the show's final season on the Jenkinses! Actually it was the writers who suggested it to me. In Mr. & Mrs. Witch, they say that although Billie & Christy's mother isn't a witch, their grandmother is; that the powers skipped a generation. I was POSITIVE that meant that their grandmother was also Grams (after all, you don't *really* think that with all those marriages she only had Patty!) with all of the powers skipping B&C's mom, so that Patty could pass them down to the Charmed Ones! And I was disappointed that the writers never picked up on it. I'm not QUITE sure if this means that B&C shouldn't have gotten any, but I like the idea of the Triad making sure that ALL Warren descendants would be killed, like what should've happened at the end of Kill Billie Vol 2 if Paige wasn't half-whitelighter and panic-orbed! If not, well, something else for Charmed Forever II!!
It sounds like you had a great time on your vacation; I'm SO glad!! I'll admit I thought, oh, oh, she thinks I've gone over the edge and doesn't want to read anymore, so I better delete the fic!! I'm glad that's not the case. Hopefully it will make more sense after the next part. How can the Jenkinses be the Halliwells' cousins?? Here ya go!CHAPTER TWENTY-FOUR “Our cousins!” cried Phoebe in shock. “But how can that be?” asked Paige, confused. “Mom doesn’t have any sisters,” pointed out Piper, picking up on the fact that Grams had asked Billie about her maternal grandfather. Grams spread her arms. “Very well, your half-cousins. Their grandfather was my third husband.” Phoebe smiled. “Then they’re cousin-witches, even if they don’t have powers anymore.” Piper smiled at Paige. “In this family, there is no such things as halves, just family. So they are our cousins.” And Paige felt a thrill of joy run up and down her spine as she smiled happily back at her sister. Grams said good-bye to Billie, telling her that her cousins would talk with her later. Phoebe was still amazed how close they’d come to vanquishing relatives. “The Triad must’ve known. They must’ve known that even if they killed us, there were still other Warren descendants out there, ones who could’ve used their powers to vanquish them,” and Grams nodded. Paige smiled. “But it looks like we straightened everything out!” “You still don’t look too happy about it, Mom,” said Melinda. Piper sighed. “Someone’s still missing.” “Our father?” Chris asked. Piper nodded, tears in her eyes. “Even if they’re our cousins, we still never beat the Jenkinses in battle. Maybe that means I’ll never get him back.” As if on cue, magical lights appeared. “No, Piper,” the Angel of Destiny smiled. “This is exactly how the Battle was supposed to end--with Warren descendants not killing Warren descendants and the Charmed Ones saving the ulimate innocent--Christy. Congratulations to you all.” Piper narrowed her eyes and put her hands on her hips. “So???” And the magical lights lit up the room once more and soon Leo stood in the room. “Leo!” cried Piper as both she and her husband ran into each other arms. She quickly pulled him in for a big kiss, and everybody applauded. Then Piper’s kids ran over. Maybe Wyatt and Chris had only known their father when they were very young and maybe Melinda had never met him, but they knew who he was from Piper’s stories. Wyatt still remembered how Leo saved him from evil the other time he visited and had told the other two all about it many times. Chris had told stories, too. He was able to remember both the Leo from the evil future and Leo from the past he’d gone back to, and knew he loved the one he’d met there and that this was that man. He was first to reach his parents and gave Leo a huge hug, who happily hugged him back. Even frozen, he’d been able to watch everything that had happened and was thrilled to have his whole family here, even if these were the older versions of his kids, and he was especially excited about getting to meet his daughter. Soon they were all in a huge family hug. “Charmed Ones,” the Angel of Destiny spoke again. “Thanks to your actions you have created a new timeline, one that includes a special reward for each of you.” “You mean more than just getting Leo back?” Piper asked. The Angel nodded, smiling. ”That was simply a condition for battling. These are extra rewards.” “Well, it better include us getting to play Scrabble in the future!” Paige insisted. Again the Angel smiled. “Yes, Paige, you are now in that timeline. But this includes more than that.” “What’s that?” Phoebe asked.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Jul 31, 2006 17:27:30 GMT -5
So Patty had a half sister, who was the daughter of Penny's third husband? But how did that happen? I mean, how come Patty never mentioned her before? And where was she when Patty and the girls were growing up? And why didn't she recognize the Manor when she came over for dinner in Mr. And Mrs. Witch? Oy. I'm so confused! Update soon. I'd really like to find out how that happened.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 31, 2006 21:44:47 GMT -5
*shakes head* Typical that you're my first reader to ask that, 4Ever--all of my other readers simply thought it was a cool idea and let it go at that. Obviously, the Jenkin girls don't know that the Halliwells are their half-cousins anymore than than the Halliwells knew the Jenkins were, so that's why everything was new--they'd never been there. I would say that it was probably very similar to what happened in my own family. My mom's grandfather divorced my mom's grandmother and then married again. The divorce was not amicable and Great-Grandmother had nothing to do with Great-Grandpa--she wouldn't even let her children say his name, and "that other woman" was always referred to as HER! Later, that second marriage also ended in divorce (Great-Grandpa was as lucky in love as Grams!). Because his first wife (my great-grandmother) had died while he was married to the other woman, he ended coming back and living with his oldest daughter (my grandma's oldest sister-we have pictures of Mom sitting on Great-Grandpa's lap and one of him holding me when I was a baby). It was only many, many years later, when one of my aunts was doing our family tree, that she found out that Great-Grandpa had had two children with his second wife, half-brothers that Grandma knew nothing about, because Great Grandpa never said anything about them. We were able to have a grand family reunion only a few weeks before Grandma died. That's when Mom got to meet her half-cousins and I met my second half-cousins. So it was a similar situation with the Halliwells, with Grams probably leaving B&C's mom with their dad because she didn't have any powers; in fact that might have been what the divorce was about with Grams trying to get B&C's mom to use her powers as a child when she had no powers to develop and Grams' third husband finally had enough. Grams then returned to Patty and got so wrapped up with her developping powers that she forgot about her other non-witch daughter. (I hope that like me that your explanation for Witchstock is that Chris and Wyatt aren't the only Halliwells who have done some time travelling--no WAY Grams & her first husband were old enough there to have a granddaughter just 3 years later! Even if Patty had Prue when she was 16, she still would've been 13 during Witchstock! But it makes sense that Grams would want to time-travel from the 50's to the 60's where women had a lot more freedom and take her daughter with her!)
At any rate, that's why everything was new to everyone else until Grams recognized her third husband in her granddaughter Christy (one of my second half-cousins looked so much like that picture I have of Great-Grandpa when I was sitting on his lap that it was amazing) and Billie recognized the bride in the wedding picture on the mantel as Grams.
At any rate, you got so caught up in the explanation that you didn't even ask about the special rewards! (I'll tell you right now; you can totally forget B&C--they won't be mentioned again!) They're setting up the "Scrabble future" per the epilogue in Charmed Forever with my own special twists added in. Given the choice, this is NOT how I would've ended it--to see how I would've, check out the ending of my "Morality STILL Bites", which I would've preferred as the finale. But that's MY ending; I'm setting up Kern's "Scabble" future.CHAPTER TWENTY-FIVE The Angel smiled. “The first reward actually goes to Leo.” “Me?” Leo asked surprised. “I didn’t do anything. I was frozen the whole time!” “Yes, but while you were a whitelighter, you did well in guiding the Charmed Ones so that they were able to succeed, and you gave up immortality for love. And for that you have been granted a special boon, one that I know you have wanted since you became mortal again. Reach into your pocket.” Curious, Leo did as he was told. To his surprise, he found a wallet, something he had never owned since he died in World War II. Opening it, he was even more surprised to find a driver’s license that showed he had been born in 1970, the same year Prue had. “You have an identity in this timeline now, Leo,” the Angel smiled. “You don’t have to be Piper’s errand boy anymore!” and that made everyone laugh. “I don’t know how to thank you,” Leo said, shaking his head in wonder. She smiled. “You don’t have to. You have earned that reward, as have you all.” Next she turned to Piper. “Leo’s reward goes hand-in-hand with yours, Piper. For leading the Charmed Ones since Prue’s death, you have been granted a special boon, one I know you have wanted for a long time.” “What’s that?” Piper asked. “The truce between the Charmed Ones and demon-kind shall indeed last for twenty years. Their powers shall shall be bounded until the next generation of Halliwells is ready to fight them. Your powers and your family's powers shall also be pounded for those twenty years. During that time, you and your sisters and your families shall indeed have a normal life!” Piper was so happy and so surprised, she didn’t know what to say besides “Thank you.” Leo smiled, knowing how much Piper wanted them to have a normal life, even tho he knew she'd miss her powers when they would've come in handy, and her future children cheered, even Wyatt and Chris who had just received their powers, knowing that meant that they wouldn‘t have to use their new powers to constantly battle demons as their family had practically all their lives, but they would still be able to use them once they were adults. Phoebe and Paige were surprised and happy, too. The only ones who didn’t look too happy about the whole thing were Grams and Young Piper, but they didn’t say anything. Next she turned to Paige. “Paige, for what you did in bringing your sisters and your cousins back to life, you have been granted a special boon, one I know you have wanted for a long time.” “What’s that?” Paige asked. “Although like your sisters, your powers as a witch are indeed bounded, you are now the first mortal to now become a full whitelighter without needing to die, with all the powers and responsibilities that entails, with one extra.” “What‘s that?” Paige asked, even as her face nearly split in half from her smile; she was so excited about her reward and her new career, the one she knew she was always meant to have--helping other witches. The Angel smiled. “The Elders can‘t jingle you. You will be able to go to Elderland whenever you want and if you ask for assistance, they will assist, but you will not be at their beck and call--you can use your powers when you want to use them, not when they want you to use them,” and now everyone cheered, especially Henry, when he realized that Paige would be able to do what she wanted to do and still have a normal life with him. “And me?” Phoebe asked, both excited and impatient. “What about me?“ and everyone couldn’t help smiling at the one who was still the baby of the family, even if Paige was younger.
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 1, 2006 1:17:14 GMT -5
lol Yeah, I'm annoying like that. If something doesn't make sense to me, it'll drive me crazy until I find a way to make it make sense. *eye roll*
Although Leo's prize was simple, I really liked it. And the bit with the "errand boy" just made me laugh, because it's SO true! And I can't believe their powers are getting bound! I really think that everyone else should have a say in that. Because it truly was PIPER'S dream to have a normal life, where as Paige loves both her witch and whitelighter powers. (One of my favorite lines was the one in Size Matters where she said, "I, uh, need, uh, a pen and paper!...I love being able to move stuff with my mind!" And then the fact that she was the only one who fought to keep their powers in Witch Way Now?) Now I do like the fact that at least she gets to keep her whitelighter powers, but still. And finally, Phoebe. I wonder what'll happen with her? Update soon!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 1, 2006 10:44:20 GMT -5
Keep in mind that this is setting up what Kern thinks would be the perfect ending for the sisters. For Leo's reward, I would've *loved* to have given him his whitelighter powers back. But in Kern's ending, the Scrabble future. Leo's an old mortal, so he obviously didn't get his wings back. (growl at Kern) Much as it bugs me, I'm doing this Kern's way. I did it my way for my ending of "Morality STILL Bites", with Piper deciding that she's happy to be a witch and proud to be a Charmed One and that like Prue, she and her sisters are going to start helping innocents again, so she WANTS Leo to have his wings back so he can help her help innocents and the Elders agree that being the Charmed Ones' whitelighter is Leo's best destiny, his ONLY destiny; Coop actually being Cole; Paige telling Henry that she's pregnant, so SHE can have the oldest granddaughter (in my mind, her first child would be a girl, probably named Patty, not Henry Jr. In fact, if I had my way, the only sons would be Wyatt and Chris--in fact, if I had my way, Wyatt and Chris would become Melinda and Christine, Leo & Piper's ONLY kids!), rather than Piper or Phoebe since Paige was the only one who showed that she cared for people outside of their family and friends during S8. And I'd have the ghosts of Penn, Patty and Prue smiling, watching it all; and then at the end have the three ghosts standing in the doorway with Prue waving her hand to close the Manor door. If I'd had my druthers, that's how the series would've ended. Unlike "Forever Charmed", that would also keep the door open (so to speak) for a TV movie or a spinoff. "Forever Charmed" truly closed the door on that, which is what made me cry at the end a lot more than that hokey scene with the pictures that gave no indication if Phoebe, Coop, Paige and Henry were even still alive past the time that Phoebe had her first child and Paige's kids were still young! The only ones allowed to be old or have grandkids were Piper & Leo! My eyes nearly rolled out of my head from that! No WAY that will be part of mine! That was the ending of the "Leo Loves Piper" series, *not* "Charmed", which I count as S1-4 and I definitely PREFER "Charmed"; I HATE what Kern did to all of our favorite people's characters to the point that I'm GLAD my favorite character, Prue, died and never came back; I'm sure he would've screwed up HER character, too!
*sigh* Unfortunately, for this I had to stick with what the show did no matter how much I disliked it. That's why I bounded everyone's powers. In "Forever Charmed", Old Leo and Old Piper talk about the truce that was mentioned earlier in S8, when the Triad was gotten rid of. Maybe KERN thinks demons have honor, but personally, I can't see demons sticking with that truce. The only thing that would make what Old Leo and Old Piper said be true is to have the DEMONS' powers bounded and the only one who could do that is the Angel of Destiny. Also, during the show's epilogue, Piper says that she was finally able to cook something besides potion between the time of the truce and when the kids were ready to take over, having time to have her restaurant as well as P3, since there's no mention of getting rid of that. To me, that doesn't sound like she and the others were actively searching out innocents, the way the Charmed Ones did under Prue. So if the only things the Charmed Ones (especially Piper) ever used their powers for at the end was to vanquish demons or personal gain (changing reporters into rats; making a Halloween outfit for Wyatt; wanting to magic a wedding dress for Paige, etc), look what happens if Piper gets to keep her powers and they're not vanquishing demons!! So the sisters *deserve* to have their powers bounded because their "leader", Piper blew it, forgetting about innocents and concentrating so much on her own family that she forgot about the reason why the sisters got their powers to begin with! And if they don't have their powers, they wouldn't be able to control their kids if their kids had powers any more than Leo could at Magic School. Hence, give Piper what she says she's always wanted (I HATE Miss Whine-a-Lot as much as I hate when her son whined!) -- a normal life--by binding everyone's powers! And if she's not happy with it--tough!! The way Es is having fun with Chris, she's also having fun with her least-favorite sister, who did a crappy job of leading the Charmed Ones! Kern's fault, not hers, since it was obvious KERN who thought that battling demons who were after the Charmed Ones was more important than finding innocents in trouble and if necessary battling the demons who were after the innocents, but it ends up reflecting on Piper. (Note the Angel never actually congratulates her or says she did a good job; simply that she gets what she always wanted!)
As for Paige, in the epilogue, she also says that life without demons gives her the chance to embrace her inner whitelighter. Again, nothing about helping innocents, just helping fellow witches/whitelighters. So it makes sense to let her be a full-whitelighter. And from what she said with the innocent during The Jung and the Restless, I think she would've actually enjoyed that. And those useless Elders have lost the right to be able to lead whitelighters, so I gladly took that away from them!!
As for Phoebe, well, you can probably guess what she's going to get. So here's Phoebe's rewardCHAPTER TWENTY-SIX The Angel smiled. "For recognizing someone who had hurt you and your sisters as an innocent, someone who needed to be saved, I have a very special reward for you, Phoebe, one that I know you have been wanting for a long time." Coop interrupted. “I think I know what your reward is, Phoebe, but only if you truly want it. Am I right?“ and the Angel smiled and nodded. “If you want me to, I’m willing to give up my powers as a cupid and become a mortal, so that you may have a love that’s not forbidden. But I will only do that if you’ll agree to marry me!” With a shriek of joy and delight, Phoebe ran to Coop and jumped into his arms, kissing him wildly. The Angel smiled. “I take that as a yes. Enjoy the new world you have created, Charmed Ones. You have indeed earned this destiny!” and she disappeared amidst the magical lights. Even while everyone talked excitedly amongst themselves, everyone pleased with this new world they had created, they were interrupted by the front door slamming open. Victor carrying Little Wyatt and Patty carrying Little Chris walked into the room, followed by Henry carrying a Scrabble game. Seeing Henry, Paige quickly ran into his arms, so that now all of the Charmed Ones were in the arms of their loves. “Did we miss anything?” Patty asked. Everyone laughed and Phoebe, still in Coop’s arms, smiled at him as she told Patty, “Everything and everyone is back to where we belong,” and Coop smiled back. “Almost,” said Grams. “It will be as soon as Patty, Piper, my great-grandchildren and I are returned to our rightful times.” Piper’s children looked at one another. “I hope that the Angel let us keep our powers, so we can return to our time,” fretted Melinda. Leo smiled. “I think she did. Try orbing.” And sure enough, all three orbed out to orb in next to their grandparents, who they gave big hugs. Victor was especially surprised but happy to meet Melinda. “But what about Grams and Mom and Young Piper?” Phoebe asked. Her new fiancé smiled. “Like them, I don’t think I’ve lost my cupid powers just yet. I can bring them all back to their right time if you,” and he looked at Young Piper, “agree to think about how much you love your sisters.” Young Piper thought about it, then nodded. “I do--most of the time,” and that made everyone laugh. Grams nodded. “And I can think about how much I love Piper’s sisters when they were that age,” and Coop nodded. “And I’ll think about how much I love Victor,” Patty added. “And little Prue and little Piper and little Phoebe-to-be,” as she touched her tummy, and everyone smiled. “Now remember,” Chris told Coop. “Be sure to take them all back to just before they were taken, so they won’t remember anything.” Wyatt and Melinda rolled their eyes. Mainly thanks to his memory of the different timelines, Chris always thought he knew everything. Usually he didn’t and he didn’t this time either, as Coop shook his head. “And if I do that, they’ll simply blend into the Grams, Patty and Piper of those times and still remember everything, just like you remember the evil time and coming back to save your brother. No, that’s one of my powers as a cupid, to allow people to forget love that is too painful. Although this isn’t quite the same thing, I can use that power to be sure they forget, just as I promised Grams at the beginning. Which reminds me. If you three kids go forward in time, you will also retain the memory of this visit. Chris would have quadruple memory; Wyatt would have triple and Melinda would have double. Unlike the ones I'm returning to the past, you won’t be able to change the future unless you came back again, so that’s up to you.”
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Post by Fourever Charmed on Aug 2, 2006 2:22:08 GMT -5
I just wanna warn you right now that this review is gonna be kind of sucky. I have a bad headache, the skin around my right eye is all swollen (which is making it hard for me to breath on the right side), and the roof of my mouth hurts. I put off reviewing for quite a few hours, in the hopes that I would feel better and actually be able to make it count, but I still feel like crap. I'm glad that you explained why Coop was able to erase their memories. That was one of the things that ticked me off in the show. Piper just tossed Coop the ring and said, "Don't forget to make sure they don't remember this!" How is that part of Coop's power? I mean, the show never explained it, and it was just a poor fix over all. Seriously, I wish Kern knew a thing or two about continuity. It would help so much. If I ever get my dream job of writing for a hit, supernatural television show, that'll be my primary focus. Continuity and original ideas. (Which could in a way seem contradictory, but I believe they go hand in hand.) But I don't quite get the thing with the quard/triple/double memories. Geeze, that's so confusing. It makes my already crying head just all the more confused. lol And Chris. Curse that little know-it-all. I can just see him acting all high and mighty because he remembers two realities. Update A.S.A.P.
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Post by Xenith on Aug 2, 2006 9:32:59 GMT -5
just one quick question, if Paige became a full whitelighter, then does that mean she won't actually age now?
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