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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 30, 2009 19:51:39 GMT -5
LOL, and here I thought Fuller did a crappy job playing Chris--that the only reason he was chosen was the same as McGowan playing Paige--he looked like a Halliwell and was under contract to Spelling Productions. He never used little actions or facial expressions to show whether he did or didn't care for his mother or his aunts and he hardly ever put any expressions in his voice--he was *so* cardboard! Sighing impatiently and showing Chris feeling sorry for himself was the only thing he did well. I really wish they could've found someone who could've acted rather than just look like a Halliwell. Exact opposite of McGowan who ALways OverACted.
Fuller did such a crappy job that after all of the lies the writers made Chris tell in S5, I never believed a word he said in S6, since Fuller never used any actions to show that he really cared, that he wasn't doing anything than just using his mother and his aunts in order to achieve his goals--murder the father and brother who he hated--the only emotions that Fuller was good in showing besides feeling sorry for himself. I truly thought that Leo was making a huge mistake when he left Wyatt behind with Chris in "It's a Bad, Bad World", because I truly thought that Chris was finally going to murder Wyatt! I was *SO* relieved when he died and I knew that Wyatt was safe.
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Post by ljones on Aug 1, 2009 3:42:42 GMT -5
The only thing I understood was that Leo had allowed evil into his heart and he killed Gideon in cold blood . . . when the other Elder was not in a position to defend himself. The only reason I'm willing to give Leo some slack for this, is because he actually felt remorse for his actions . . . something that the Halliwell sisters were never able to accomplish.
I didn't feel relief. I'm not that fond of Wyatt.
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Post by dylan345 on Aug 1, 2009 17:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by Lady Morticia on Sept 29, 2009 21:57:04 GMT -5
I think they had a good idea with the whole "Chris Halliwell" thing but completely screwed it up. The Halliwell's were all about family and suddenly it's the MALE witches who go 'it's all or nothing' suddenly like they can't handle the power of the Charmed legacy.
Using his family like Chris did in the series was such a contradiction of what I believed Charmed to be about that I didn't want to believe that he was one of Piper's sons at first.
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Post by pixiesunbelle on Feb 2, 2010 21:09:16 GMT -5
No, I don't believe she did. Before she left her sons with Victor, she had a little talk with Wyatt... not Chris. Also, we saw more of Wyatt than we saw of baby Chris- even after Chris was born.
Yes. She was alive. Bianca comes back to her mother's for some book that has a spell in it. During that time, you see her young self. Also, when TCO comes in the house, they see young Bianca as well. This leads me to believe that young Bianca is alive and probably had no idea what happened at all.
Anyways, I liked Chris as a character. However, after some of Esmeralda's posts I re-thought about Chris alot. I do believe that Chris is partly responsible for some of Leo's actions. After Vahala, Leo was never the same. I think that the island did have an affect on him that perhaps Chris did not realize- or did. But, while he was deceitful; it is definitely because he was convinced that telling them that he is their son would change things for the worse. However, I don't believe that Chris would have killed Wyatt. He wanted to change the future and have a brother he could love and that's why he said the things he said to Wyatt.
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Post by p3charmedlunatic on Feb 12, 2010 9:03:32 GMT -5
I found it lol
I'll come back in a few days and have my say about Chris
Es--Should I just re-post everything I posted over at the Fic site??
or start again lol
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 13, 2010 12:09:25 GMT -5
First sorry for not replying earlier--very, very *VERY* busy at work (I work for a wholesale florist and this close to S.A.D. aka Singles Awareness Day, pardon me, Valentine's Day...) and then busy watching the Olympics last night which I'll probably be doing the next couple weeks.
But I'll leave that totally up to you since you made so many comments in so many threads when they truly belong in a thread like this.
LOL, besides, most people at this forum know my reaction towards the True Big Bad of Charmed, and I'm sure they'd love to hear your reaction instead.
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Post by p3charmedlunatic on Feb 14, 2010 11:21:55 GMT -5
First sorry for not replying earlier--very, very *VERY* busy at work (I work for a wholesale florist and this close to S.A.D. aka Singles Awareness Day, pardon me, Valentine's Day...) and then busy watching the Olympics last night which I'll probably be doing the next couple weeks. But I'll leave that totally up to you since you made so many comments in so many threads when they truly belong in a thread like this. LOL, besides, most people at this forum know my reaction towards the True Big Bad of Charmed, and I'm sure they'd love to hear your reaction instead. awww Valentines day(puke)lol but I like your job it seems fun plus Flowers =Pretty I get nauseous around strong scents so I guess I wouldn't be able to do your job Well when I get the time I will re-post everything in here No these guys wont like what I have to say anymore than they liked what you had to say |
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jun 3, 2011 16:12:58 GMT -5
And I'm the big Chris fan. For him I returned to Charmed but in general I think either his storyline in S6 or the baby's one following could have done better. I mean when Chris died I expected more reactions and not only Leo. Nevertheless, he made mistakes regarding to his identity, his family and whole life. I guess he didn't know better with a dead mother, an absentee father and a slowly turning evil brother.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 1, 2012 11:25:04 GMT -5
ROFLMFAO!! I just read the best post regarding Chris (and his family...) that I've ever seen...I couldn't have done it better myself!
And all I can add is AMEN!
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Post by cyma on Feb 21, 2012 14:28:17 GMT -5
So glad to have found this wonderful imdb post here ;D
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Aug 31, 2012 19:27:53 GMT -5
The reason Chris used the name Perry in Oh My Goddess is because originally he wasn't Piper & Leo's son so his name
was that but when we found it out it made sense that he used his middle name because he was undercover & didn't want the Charmed Ones to know who he really was.
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Post by danellap on Dec 22, 2014 11:11:00 GMT -5
I agree that the show totally sucked towards the end. However, I have to disagree about the comments on Chris. From my point of view, everything went to hell once Prue died. It is as if her character mantained the seriousness of the show. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the whole Cole storyline, but let's admit it was poorly handled, the writers went through all of it too abruptly and it wasn't dark enough.
As to Chris, during season 5 I definitely fell out of love with the show and I thought there was no coming back from that crappy storytelling. The writers proved me wrong at the finale and through season 6. Chris is my favourite character besides Prue and it feels like he brought her back to the show. Chris was a damaged hero who had the best (and only) character development after Prue passed away. I love his personality as he is constantly angry like Prue was and never held his tongue. I personally hated it when he died (though it was the final touch to make season 6 one of my favourite), but what bothered me the most is how he was completely forgotten (like Prue) and Wyatt continued to be the most important son.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Dec 22, 2014 11:57:28 GMT -5
I liked season 6 because of Chris. Though I did think he was good in some parts and not so in others like murdering the Valkarie in cold blood for e.g or how his attitude that good things done for the wrong reasons was right and the fact he had telekinesis which was so overused on the show that bothered me.
Had he been more considerate and open, had a moral stance on magic, wasn't so uptight, and treated his parents more fairly then I would've loved him absolutely especially if Chris had Piper's freezing power in a whitelighter variation which's what I do with Chris in my fan fiction stories.
And yes it would've been nice if Prue and older he were mentioned on the show more like as if they actually existed.
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 22, 2014 13:32:35 GMT -5
I agree that the show totally sucked towards the end. However, I have to disagree about the comments on Chris. From my point of view, everything went to hell once Prue died. It is as if her character mantained the seriousness of the show. Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the whole Cole storyline, but let's admit it was poorly handled, the writers went through all of it too abruptly and it wasn't dark enough. As to Chris, during season 5 I definitely fell out of love with the show and I thought there was no coming back from that crappy storytelling. The writers proved me wrong at the finale and through season 6. Chris is my favourite character besides Prue and it feels like he brought her back to the show. Chris was a damaged hero who had the best (and only) character development after Prue passed away. I love his personality as he is constantly angry like Prue was and never held his tongue. I personally hated it when he died (though it was the final touch to make season 6 one of my favourite), but what bothered me the most is how he was completely forgotten (like Prue) and Wyatt continued to be the most important son. First, welcome to the Cafe! Then your post reminded me of this, written before the comics came out: AUTHOR's NOTES: A lot of people wonder why Prue was never shown after her death. Naturally, we know the *real* reason is that Shannen Doherty wouldn't let her. But here's my explanation within the context of the show. Those who know me might be a bit surprised!
Help Me, Paige!
by Esmeralda
Disclaimer I don't own anything Charmed--all characters belong to Spelling Productions and The CW, the new WB.
KaBOOM!
Paige grit her teeth as she watched the potion blow up again for the third time. “At least Piper doesn’t have to see this mess,” she muttered. “I wonder if I'll ever be able to concoct a proper potion. Oh, well. Back to the old drawing board.” As she moped her way back over to the Book of Shadows, her brown eyes suddenly grew wide as she witnessed the pages turning all by themselves for the first time. When the pages stopped turning, Paige began reading from the Book:
"Hear these words.
Hear my cry,
Spirit from the other side.
Come to me,
I summon thee--
Cross now the Great Divide."
She smiled as she watched the ghostly lights appear and begin swirling around. Soon a form began to take shape and Paige wondered who it might be. Grams? Mom? But when the ghost finally fully manifested herself, Paige stared in mute shock.
“Paige! I need your help!”
“Prue?!” Paige squeaked in disbelief as she wiped a smear of greasy potion residue from her face. “Of course, I can help. I can get a hold of Piper or Phoebe right away.” She nervously dumped the contents of her purse out on the table, looking for her cell phone.
Prue shook her head. “No, no need for that. And it’s you I need, not them.”
“Me? Why me? I don’t even know you.”
“Maybe not, but you are a Halliwell, even if your last name is Matthews. And I need to make a decision soon and need you to help me decide.”
“To make a decision? Boy, have you got the wrong girl,” Paige muttered as a lifetime of regrettable decisions flooded her mind.
“What do you mean by that?” Prue asked, concern in her voice.
Paige waved that aside impatiently. “It’s not important right now. I still don‘t get it. Why me? Why not Piper or Phoebe or even Leo?”
“Because they would be thinking with their hearts and I need the advice of someone who understands what it’s like to be Charmed, but who could also think with her mind, not just her heart. I already discussed this with Mom and Grams, and they‘re no help.”
“Phoebe’s a professional advice columnist,” Paige pointed out. “I think you should ask--”
Prue cut her off. “Phoebe’s too close to me. All of my family is thinking with their hearts. Because you don’t know me, you’re the best one to help, because you’ll think with your head, but still with a lot of compassion, like you do in your social work. And that‘s what I need.”
“Well, I still don’t know what I can do to help, but why don’t you tell me what’s wrong?”
Prue smiled. “Oh, I don’t know if the proper question is ‘What’s wrong’. I love it Up There, getting to be with Mom and Grams and Andy and the others. And I love getting to watch how well all of you are doing, especially you, Paige. Even though I never met you, I feel like I know you. You’ve done such a great job helping to keep the Power of Three going.”
Paige stared in shock. “Great job?! Yeah, tell that to the attic,” as she glanced around at the mess she so recently created.
Again Prue smiled. “Yes. I know you don’t think you measure up to the standard I set, but you are truly doing a wonderful job, just by being you! I'm very proud of you. In fact, I'm certain that the reason why I died was so my sisters could find you, the true third member of the Power of Three--that I was just keeping your place warm for you!”
For the first time since Prue appeared, Paige felt comfortable. “Thank you, I appreciate that. Truly I do. Now please tell me how I can help.”
“Well, although I love it up here, my soul feels the need to move on. To come back to Earth as another person, to be reincarnated, to try to learn the lessons I didn’t learn as Prudence Halliwell.”
“So go ahead. Like Nike says, Just Do It. I don’t understand why you haven‘t done that before."
Prue shook her head. “Because another part of me says that you guys might need my help! I’ve been standing in the wings, just in case something should happen so you would need me.”
“Oh, Prue! I’m sure both Piper and Phoebe would be so happy if they knew you felt that way! But like you said, we’re doing fine. None of us would want to stand in the way of your being able to move on, especially Piper and Phoebe! You can let go of them, Prue. You don't have to take care of them any more.”
Prue sighed with relief. “Thank you, Paige! That means so much. There’s another problem, though.”
“What’s that?” Paige asked, now eager to help.
“Although it’s very unusual, I have a chance of becoming a Halliwell again.”
“What?!”
“Yeah, thanks to my actions as Prue, especially my willingness to die for an innocent, I’m being given that chance. If things don’t change, there’s a good possibility that Piper and Leo may have another child soon and if they do and if I agree, I have a chance to be that child."
Paige's eyes grew large. "No wonder you didn't want to ask Piper or Leo!"
Prue nodded. "That knowledge could change the future and prevent that child from ever being born. And Phoebe?! I love her dearly, but she still can't keep a secret!"
Paige giggled. "Too true. Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me."
Prue smiled. "Thank you. Normally I would jump at the chance, but depending upon what happens, that child has a chance to either save our family or to doom it, depending upon the choices that child makes.”
“Huh? I don’t get it. Too many ‘depending upons’.”
“I can’t tell you much more than that, partially because I sincerely don’t know--The Powers That Be won’t tell me--and partially because if you knew, then again you might change the future without meaning to and I may never get a chance to be that child. Part of me wants to have that chance, but part of me doesn’t think I should. I wouldn’t remember being Prudence Halliwell, couldn’t use my experiences as Prue to decide what to do. But I don’t know if I should let someone else have that chance to be that child and maybe mess up our family! But if I were the one who messed up the family, I‘d never be able to live with myself!"
Prue shook her head with frustration. "Maybe it‘s better for me to just stay Up There, wait until all of you eventually join us, and then we can all go back as sisters or cousins or friends! That‘s what Mom and Grams are waiting for; that‘s what I sometimes feel like I should wait for--but what if someone else becomes Piper and Leo‘s next child and because they don‘t feel close to you guys--the way I always would, no matter who I am--and that person doesn‘t want to make the decisions needed to save the family? But what if you guys needed my help while I was still a baby?”
Now Prue sounded absolutely desperate. “Please, Paige, tell me what to do!"
Paige stared at her big sister for a long time.
“Paige?” Prue asked anxiously.
Paige took a deep breath, knowing the chance she was taking, but knowing she had to take it. “I’m sorry, Prue. I’m not going to tell you what to do.”
“What?!” Anger sparked Prue’s blue eyes, and she raised her hand, ready to TK her sister across the room and into the wall. “I thought you cared!”
Paige held up her own hand in the ancient sign of asking for peace. “It’s not because I don’t care for you, Prue. It’s because I do. Part of me wants to tell you that I’d love to have you as part of the family again so soon,” and Prue smiled, lowering her hand. Paige released the breath she was holding, then continued, “But there‘s another part of me that wants to tell you that I love the idea of getting to be your sister or your cousin or your friend in our next go-round rather than your aunt--actually getting a chance to get to know you.”
Prue’s smile beamed. “You do understand.”
“Yeah, but I’m not going to tell you to do either of those things,” and again Prue’s smile fell. “Because both of those answers would come from my heart. You said you don’t want an answer from the heart; you want one from the mind, from my social worker’s mind.”
Prue nodded. “Yes, I did. If you were a pure social worker, not an assistant, what would you tell our family to do regarding me?”
Paige shook her head. “I don’t think I can do that either,” and again Prue looked confused. “A social worker looks at what’s best for everyone involved--I’d have to look at what’s best for Piper and Leo, and me and Phoebe, too. That’s not what this is about. This is about your soul and your growth, what you think is the best thing for you to do. You’ve told us--and I’m sure you told Grams and Mom--that you don’t want us to speak with our hearts, Prue, but I think that’s what you should do. Don’t worry about how your decision will affect us--whatever you decide, we‘ll be OK; we‘ll be OK because we‘re family and we'll make sure that kid does the right thing no matter if she's you or if she's not!--instead consider what’s best for you, what your heart, what your soul feels is your right path to learn those lessons you were talking about.”
Again Prue’s smile beamed. “Thank you, Paige. That’s exactly what I needed to hear.”
Paige grinned back. “So what are you going to do?”
Prue smiled mysteriously. “I guess you’ll just have to wait and find out!” and with that, the glowing lights surrounded Prue, and the next moment she was gone.
Paige didn’t think she could keep this meeting from her other sisters, but fate had a way of doing it for her. The very next day, Piper went into labor with her first child--a boy rather than the girl that all of them were expecting. Paige got so wrapped up in Wyatt Matthew Halliwell--named after Leo and her!!--that in the midst of all the events that surrounded that blessed event, Paige totally forgot about her sister’s visit, while somewhere Up There, her oldest sister looked down and smiled.
A year later
Paige slammed the door of her room, leaning against it, still unable to believe what Phoebe had just told her. Chris Perry, their mysterious whitelighter from the future, wasn’t Chris Perry at all--he was Chris Halliwell, Wyatt’s younger brother, Piper and Leo’s younger son, come back to save his brother and his family!
"No way!“ she exclaimed out loud as a memory long-forgotten suddenly surfaced. “No way he can be Prue! No matter who she becomes, Prue could never hate Leo the way Chris hates him! But wait a minute, he’s not just Leo to Chris--he’s his father, and Prue hated Victor for a long time after he left them, just like Leo left Chris! And Chris has TK, likes to boss us around, thinks he always knows what’s best for us--”
“And what a bunch of lessons for me to learn.” Paige spun around to find Prue sparkling behind her.
“In a strange way," Prue continued, the glow in her eyes telling Paige that she knew she had made the right decision, "this is part of the reason why he came back--why I came back--to show me the lessons I’ll get to learn, both during the lifetime he's already lived and the new lifetime I'm determined he's going to have when he goes back,” and Paige‘s head spun at the paradoxes.
"Paige, just imagine me who loved being a woman having to be a man! Or me, the oldest, having to grow up the younger! Or me, the strongest, having to live in the shadow of the Twice-Blessed Child! My biggest sin as Prue was always pride--this is the best way for me to learn that lesson while still doing what I love doing most--protecting my family so that they can protect innocents. And, Paige, imagine me finding out that someone took my brother and turned him evil...”
Paige nodded. “You’d do anything to make sure he and the rest of the family would be all right; even risking coming back in time.” She smiled at a memory. “Either save the family or doom it. Coming back in time may save the family, while staying would‘ve certainly doomed it!”
“And I’m gonna save it,” Prue swore, and thinking about Chris' own determination, Paige wondered if he--she--whatever--had learned that pride lesson quite yet.
“But I need your help,” Prue continued. “And this time I won’t take no for an answer.”
"What’s that?” Paige asked cautiously.
The lights began swirling around Prue again and just before she vanished, her voice said, “Make sure I get a chance to save our family--make sure I get conceived!”
The End
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Post by Chrisaholic on Dec 22, 2014 13:59:43 GMT -5
As to Chris, during season 5 I definitely fell out of love with the show and I thought there was no coming back from that crappy storytelling. The writers proved me wrong at the finale and through season 6. Chris is my favourite character besides Prue and it feels like he brought her back to the show. Chris was a damaged hero who had the best (and only) character development after Prue passed away. I love his personality as he is constantly angry like Prue was and never held his tongue. I personally hated it when he died (though it was the final touch to make season 6 one of my favourite), but what bothered me the most is how he was completely forgotten (like Prue) and Wyatt continued to be the most important son. I completely agree. I felt the same way after S6 had ended. The potential was there but definitely not used!  |
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Post by sol on Mar 18, 2016 10:22:31 GMT -5
I don't think Chris was forgotten
In A Call to Arms Piper doesn't agree to leave the baby even for a moment, while she sends Wyatt to the magic School
Leo isn't even able to look at the baby, so strong was the pain of the loss of future Chris
Paige and Phoebe are nice aunts, Paige works against Piper's will to organize Chris' wiccaning
And when Phoebe tries to help Leo, it's who Chris gets into his vision, to reassure his dad
Charmed is about the sisters, many fans thought that Piper's sons got too much room
I liked them especially in season 8, in Kill Bill Vol 2 they had a great role and were delightful
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Post by unakite on Apr 12, 2016 14:50:25 GMT -5
The kids were one of the best part of Kill Bill Vol 2, they'ld be perfect for a new serie, it's a shame they were beaten to the draw by Supernatural
When the network disliked his tabloid reporter idea, it was easy for Kripke to turn his charcasters into brothers, just during the TCS campaign
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Post by Assassin Witch on Apr 12, 2016 21:09:55 GMT -5
I feel like the campaign HELPED get Supernatural picked. Because they saw a market for it.
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Post by Chris on Apr 12, 2016 22:46:27 GMT -5
I feel like the campaign HELPED get Supernatural picked. Because they saw a market for it. This this this, a million times this! ^ |
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