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Post by Lexi on Feb 12, 2011 10:35:18 GMT -5
Never be afraid to talk. We like discussions - that's why we're here (well, that's why I'm here). So to bring something up that you think may be interesting to us feel free. And if people don't agree, it just means they don't agree for their own reasons - not that they're attacking you personally. It doesn't happen so much on here, but there are certain sites that I know of that if you disagree with someone they think you're attacking them - it's really not the case, it's just the fun of discussions.  (I think that makes sense. I'm watching England vs Italy in the 6 nations rugby so I'm a little occupied with that  ) |
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Post by ljones on Feb 14, 2011 18:25:25 GMT -5
Probably about eight or nine years older.
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 14, 2011 23:35:17 GMT -5
That was about my guess too, to me it doesn't seem like much as my brothers were 11 and 13 years older then me.
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Post by ljones on Feb 16, 2011 2:03:20 GMT -5
If "Witchstock" was set in January 1967 (please correct me if I'm wrong), then Penny was 35 or 36 years old around that time.
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 17, 2011 3:07:22 GMT -5
According the the info on the net Penny was born in June of 1931 so your guess of her age in 1967 is dead on. Like Patty I too was born in 1950 so we are the same age and I was a east-coast hippy in 1967.
Now I don't remember if it was stated how old Patty was suppose to be at the time but I recall that someone asked where she was. I think they said she out of town visiting, but to me it seemed like they were talking about a little kid, not some one who was almost old enough to be out on her own.
It's hard to guess a person's age and Grams could have been in her mid 30's...and considering we are talking the San Fran beat of the flower child world sure, she could have embraced the action...
but some how when I watch that episode most of her friends looked and acted more like early to mid 20's than mid to late 30's. But then again we are speaking of San Fran...so yeah, I surrender...it could fly.
I still think it would have been more interesting if Patty was having the party and Grams just happened home early...it still could have ended the same way with Grams becoming the super-witch.
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Post by ljones on Feb 17, 2011 12:10:38 GMT -5
Patty would have been 16, going on 17 in this episode. I've heard that they used Penny's character, because Fiona Hughes wasn't available to portray Patty. However, I cannot see Fiona Hughes portraying a 16 year-old girl.
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Post by lostsoul666 on Feb 20, 2011 14:25:59 GMT -5
The show always confused me about the characters powers. A few times it's hinted at that the Elders can take away powers? But if that's the case then why didn't they take away Cole's powers?
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 20, 2011 22:54:42 GMT -5
That is an interesting question. Did we ever see the bath-robed one's strip powers from evil ones? I don't remember. It seems to me that they messed with the good more then the evil. If that is the case then I have an even bigger guestion. Sounds like dirty politics to me....anyone want to jump on this one?  |
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 20, 2011 23:05:30 GMT -5
The show always confused me about the characters powers. A few times it's hinted at that the Elders can take away powers? But if that's the case then why didn't they take away Cole's powers? Welcome lostsoul666! I agree with GR - that's a great question! I think the Elders can take away powers that they themselves have given, but since they wouldn't have given powers to evil ones, they couldn't take those away, so they couldn't take away Cole's. I think they gave the whitelighters their powers (hence the reason I don't think there should be such a thing as a witchlighter, since powers given can't be inherited), but not the witches. Hence I think they should be able to take away a whitelighter's powers, but for a witch's, they need one of those trials. |
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Post by lostsoul666 on Feb 21, 2011 0:51:54 GMT -5
It gets more confusing in season 6 when we are introduced to the Tribunal in Crimes and Witch-Demeanors. In that episode they take away Phoebe's power's.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 21, 2011 14:51:21 GMT -5
It gets more confusing in season 6 when we are introduced to the Tribunal in Crimes and Witch-Demeanors. In that episode they take away Phoebe's power's. Exactly. The fact that it took a tribunal like that to take away Phoebe's powers is what tells me that the Elders didn't give witches those powers, so therefore they themselves couldn't take them away, the way they took Leo's powers away in Season 2. |
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Post by lostsoul666 on Feb 21, 2011 16:29:38 GMT -5
I thought that the whole Tribunal thing is weird. How powerful is the Tribunal? Would they be powerful enough to take away Wyatt's powers?
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 21, 2011 17:17:20 GMT -5
I thought that the whole Tribunal thing is weird. I agree. The idea of letting both the forces of Good and the forces Evil decide if Phoebe should keep her power was just that - wierd - and rubbed me the wrong way, the same way the whole idea of the Hollow rubbed me the wrong way. Most definitely. And they should've. |
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Post by ghostrider on Feb 21, 2011 19:15:24 GMT -5
Agreed....but mom and dad should have jumped on this one long before it landed in the hands of the witch-government. I mean, it's not as if they didn't know how to do this and why it might be a good idea if they did.
Of course I am sure the other powers that be Kern and company, had a wonderful time....with glee I might add, visualizing the gifted baby unleashing a dragon on the Streets of San Francisco. So much Vodka, so little control!!!!
Power lunch anyone?
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 21, 2011 19:46:28 GMT -5
Agreed....but mom and dad should have jumped on this one long before it landed in the hands of the witch-government. I mean, it's not as if they didn't know how to do this and why it might be a good idea if they did. Of course I am sure the other powers that be Kern and company, had a wonderful time....with glee I might add, visualizing the gifted baby unleashing a dragon on the Streets of San Francisco. So much Vodka, so little control!!!! Power lunch anyone? Hehehe! I got a huge kick out of this post, GR. For that, you have been blessed! |
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 22, 2011 6:05:56 GMT -5
I cannot think that Elders or the Tribunal- I hate even the idea of that tribunal-could take away powers from witches they can block them but not take what is a genetic heritage
Phoebe powers were bound by the Tribunal in the same manner in which they were blocked by Penny
The Cleaners-other stupid people- didn't order Piper to bind Wyatt powers, a more reasonable solution that took away a baby from his mom, likely because it'ld be hard in a son of magic as Wyatt
Many of the old tales tell how difficult it is for a human manage strong powers I think it is safer to let Wyatt grow accustomed to the magic that he own
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Post by ljones on Feb 22, 2011 16:43:16 GMT -5
The show always confused me about the characters powers. A few times it's hinted at that the Elders can take away powers? But if that's the case then why didn't they take away Cole's powers? The claimed that the Elders could take away the powers of witches, not demons. However, I have doubts about the Elders controlling the powers of witches, considering that they ARE NOT deities. |
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