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Post by erikamarie on Mar 10, 2011 3:23:34 GMT -5
These are the only characters you can remember from Burge's tenure? Clearly not I was talking of characters I found interesting and I forgot Barbas and the Brotherhood I like Morris but he is the usual friend / detective who serves only to give information and be amazed by the magic as Dan is the usual boy next door, such characters are always useful to a story but not interesting as a Leo or Andy I like the Brotherhood I like the idea of business demons living in the city and working to go deep into the economic bases, demons with brain and money are more dangerous than stupid monsters I do not like the Source's appearance why a Big Bad has to be nasty? Evil can be seductive |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 10, 2011 8:42:04 GMT -5
I do not like the Source's appearance why a Big Bad has to be nasty? Evil can be seductive I agree totally. I enjoyed the Source a lot better when he was seducing Paige to the dark side (which had to be completely Kern and was extraordinairly well done) than nasty. |
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Post by dylan345 on Mar 10, 2011 16:14:30 GMT -5
These are the only characters you can remember from Burge's tenure? Clearly not I was talking of characters I found interesting and I forgot Barbas and the Brotherhood I like Morris but he is the usual friend / detective who serves only to give information and be amazed by the magic as Dan is the usual boy next door, such characters are always useful to a story but not interesting as a Leo or Andy I like the Brotherhood I like the idea of business demons living in the city and working to go deep into the economic bases, demons with brain and money are more dangerous than stupid monstersI do not like the Source's appearance why a Big Bad has to be nasty? Evil can be seductive I would have loved to see more of this. It's more of the real world yet still magical, and could have taken the place of silly storylines filled with nymphs and leprechauns. |
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Post by ghostrider on Mar 10, 2011 16:55:48 GMT -5
Posted by erikamarie on Today at 3:23amOh, wonderful idea...I forgot all about the Brotherhood. Real monsters with a grander purpose, functioning on a larger scale. And when you think about it how many times have you noticed that the public at large blames bad weather, starvation, murder and mayhem on (the big bad)  ? I love it. Yes, I know they did that....but give me more!! Posted by dylan345 on Today at 4:14pmYou are so right....I mean a little fantasy magic is to be expected, but I didn't want a steady diet of it, which is one of the reasons I stopped being a regular viewer. We should write for TV.. 
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 10, 2011 19:24:04 GMT -5
Posted by dylan345 on Today at 4:14pmYou are so right....I mean a little fantasy magic is to be expected, but I didn't want a stead diet of it, which is one of the reasons I stopped being a regular viewer. We should write for TV.. Hehehe! Amen! But doesn't anyone with ideas of their own think so?? |
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Post by joshingabout on Mar 27, 2011 12:23:49 GMT -5
I was watching Season Five and I thought of one more thing that I thought was done right:
The Crone.
I thought she was great. It's just a shame that she never had much screen time. I'd've preferred more time with her than The Seer.
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Post by Astral Alex on Mar 27, 2011 12:39:23 GMT -5
Oh no I disagree.
The Seer was much better than the Crone.
All in all, I think Kern and Burge had two different ideas, and Kern gets all the abuse plainly for the fact that by Seasons 8 he was scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Personally, If I had to choose the most boring season it would definitely be Season 2! There was next to know plot development and characters like Dan and (the dreadful) Jenny, were just totally unneeded.
Seasons 3 & 4 were the best in my opinion. With Season Four, maybe outshining Season Three slightly, and that was all under Kern's control.
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Post by pipercharmedphreak on Mar 27, 2011 17:21:44 GMT -5
All in all, I think Kern and Burge had two different ideas, and Kern gets all the abuse plainly for the fact that by Seasons 8 he was scraping the bottom of the barrel. Personally, If I had to choose the most boring season it would definitely be Season 2! There was next to know plot development and characters like Dan and (the dreadful) Jenny, were just totally unneeded. Seasons 3 & 4 were the best in my opinion. With Season Four, maybe outshining Season Three slightly, and that was all under Kern's control. I'd have to agreed. Burge and Kern seemed to have to drastically different ideas for Charmed. And I'd also have to agree with you on the fact that Kern was scraping the bottom of the barrel but the time S8 rolled around. There were definitely some reused storylines. However, I don't think that's the only reason why he catches so much slack. I think a lot of it also has to do with the direction he took the show and the characters (prior to scraping the bottom of the barrel in S8). I would also agree with you on Jenny. Without a doubt one of my least favorite characters on Charmed. But, I did like Dan. The love triangle between Piper, Leo, and Dan was one of my favorite periods of time on the show. |
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Post by Jad on Mar 27, 2011 18:45:03 GMT -5
Kern was good with starting interesting story lines and bringing them to a head; he could just never close the deal.
The season one and two finales were good but they were not closing a well developed story arc.
The season three finale was action packed but didn't have enough build up. It was like a nuclear explosion episode leaving me wonder where the heck did that come from?
It's all nice and easy to say that we can write better stories. That's the easy part, but writing stories that can be produced that's a whole other animal. You have to write stories that the network will produce, meaning they have to appeal to the widest audience possible, writing for the least common denominator. Then you have to write stories for the actors you have available.
The best relationship in the show Phoebe/Cole; the one that should have lasted, couldn't. It had to be destroyed. This left a bad taste in my mouth, and it could have been done better. But, no matter how done, it would have always left us asking why in storyline terms. So as far as I'm concerned, Kern made the best of a bad situation. He just could never really recover from it.
Zankou was the best bad guy of the show. Drake and Kyra come in close seconds that's why I like season seven so much.
Kern also killed off the right sister. It was a little rushed, but Prue was always headed for a fall. Sorry to have to say that to all you Prue lovers, but Prue's greatest fault was that she was too good. The show did a pretty good job showing the Pride of Prue. It got them in trouble a few times and was the greatest contributing factor in the season three finale.
Kern was always good at writing stories that could go either way. This also meant that he was bad at closing story lines.
Kern did the best that he could in the harsh reality of broadcast television.
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Post by Astral Alex on Mar 27, 2011 18:50:42 GMT -5
Kern was good with starting interesting story lines and bringing them to a head; he could just never close the deal. The season one and two finales were good but they were not closing a well developed story arc. The season three finale was action packed but didn't have enough build up. It was like a nuclear explosion episode leaving me wonder where the heck did that dome from? It's all nice and easy to say that we can write better stories. That's the easy part, but writing stories that can be produced that's a whole other animal. You have to write stories that the network will produce, meaning they have to appeal to the widest audience possible, writing for the least common denominator. Then you have to write stories for the actors you have available. The best relationship in the show Phoebe/Cole; the one that should have lasted, couldn't. It had to be destroyed. This left a bad taste in my mouth, and it could have been done better. But, no matter how done, it would have always left us asking why in storyline terms. So as far as I'm concerned, Kern made the best of a bad situation. He just could never really recover from it. Zankou was the best bad guy of the show. Drake and Kyra come in close seconds that's why I like season seven so much. Kern also killed off the right sister. It was a little rushed, but Prue was always headed for a fall. Sorry to have to say that to all you Prue lovers, but Prue's greatest fault was that she was too good. The show did a pretty good job showing the Pride of Prue. It got them in trouble a few times and was the greatest contributing factor in the season three finale. Kern was always good at writing stories that could go either way. This also meant that he was bad at closing story lines. Kern did the best that he could in the harsh reality of broadcast television. Hit the nail on the head. I bless you. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Mar 28, 2011 10:47:12 GMT -5
I still and always will stand by All Hell Breaks Loose. It was the best episode of the series by a country mile.
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Post by erikamarie on Apr 12, 2011 3:07:04 GMT -5
Dejà vu all over again it's one of the best episodes that quiet morning in the kitchen of the Manor was scary
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? I love it. Yes, I know they did that....but give me more!!
