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Post by erikamarie on Oct 16, 2015 10:20:30 GMT -5
So jealous! I love that neighborhood, Madrid is a a wonderful place!
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 16, 2015 10:16:42 GMT -5
A big hug, Nathan, let alone the reviews, stop just to distract a little, sometimes it helps
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 16, 2015 4:46:08 GMT -5
I wasn't a big fan of Cole when I first saw him on the show. To be honest, I thought he was nothing more than a second-rate version of Andy Trudeau . . . until the end of the Season 3 premiere, when he killed that demonic judge. But it was Kern's willingness to present a complex character in the form of Cole and his willingness to explore multi-arc episodes that led me to continue the show. Also, I had dropped the series before Julian McMahon left in Season 5. I didn't see "Centennial Charmed" (which was crap, by the way) until several years later on TNT. I got interested in the show again, with the introduction of Chris. But I could see that with the exception of a few episodes like "Chris-Crossed" (which I love) and the Season 6 finale, the writing had really gone down in quality. I tried it again in the first-half of Season 7, but the Avatar story arc pissed me off. It's funny, I thought the same think, an AD at the place of a cop! I liked him when I understood that he was a different bad guy, seductive, intelligent, well integrated in the society The idea of the Thorn Brotherhood was interesting, a brotherhood interested in gaining economic and political power opened various scenarios than the usual monster of the week Cole's character remains, along with Chris's, one of the most intriguing, even at the end when he was in the grip of his obsession By this point he is one of the most powerful beings to ever exist, hard to hold even for a centenary demon Futhermore, Cole was'nt able to adapt to the human community, no longer able to adapt to demon society and he lost Phoebe, the woman for whom he had turned his life Enough reason to go crazy Many hated this end I think he was grandly dramatic |
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 12, 2015 16:26:03 GMT -5
Vanity Fair is a book that I love and I think the same thing, Emily is the perfect wife for a Victorian husband, it's funny that even women of the nineteenth century found her boring
In my opinion, Piper's character changes a lot during the 8 seasons:tender, fit for family harmony, shy, insecure, with the problem of low self-esteem, being a witch doesn't changes Piper
She'll remain the heart of the family for a long time, ready to mediate between the sisters but also ready to accept the feelings of the sisters:she'll accept without hesitation Cole,trusting Phoebe's love
Prue's death stirs up an unexpected change, she seems able to turn in a different woman, imposing, determined, incapable of mediation and empathy: the reaction of a sweet person who is afraid of not being able to fulfill her destiny, to protect her sister
The two sides of the same coin, the warrior Piper and the maternal Piper,a woman who faces with resolution what she has to face even if she'ld rather not have to
I think is brave not who jumps with joy in danger but who would prefer to avoid, but is aware that it's a duty to deal with it
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 12, 2015 14:12:22 GMT -5
I love Charmed Again: I love how it starts with Piper's desperate attempt to communicate with Prue, I love how Phobe tries to exorcise the pain dealing with an innocent and Piper's reaction: We could have another funeral tomorrow. I mean, all the dishes are out and we pretty much know who to invite
And I love the wry dialogues between Cole and Leo when Piper evokes Grams
Cole: (To Leo) Sam?
Leo: Her white-lighter.
Cole: Hmm. Apples don't fall far from the forbidden tree, I see.
I always loved the dialogue between Leo and Cole, the two "old boy" of group, it was a nice relationship
I watched it recently and I found everything I have always loved in Charmed: brilliant dialogue, a mix of irony and carefreeness, interesting characters, action without excessive action
It was written in response to the new situation while the whole season was changed, a pity for the original season four but an excellent way to introduce Paige
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 12, 2015 13:35:35 GMT -5
I meant that a production is complex process, but here all is simple, it's enough to blame Kern
Only Spelling had the power to fire Doherty, everyone knows that Kern could not have any say in the matter; hard to know what happens but Doherty was convinced that she must be the undisputed protagonist, Spelling knew that the approval ratings indicated Phoebe as the most popular character
Among them, things must have gone very wrong seeing that Spelling has practically canceled two seasons already written
I like the fourth season but it is true that the following seasons are obviously botched, it was impossible otherwise having squeezed two seasons in one and then it was a normal resulting that they were running out ideas for the fifth season
It's easier to write a story than a script,a writer has to tell the story using only dialogues, Charmed was highly appreciated by the language often humorous and fun, I can easily imagine all the difficulties faced after the third season: it was a pity, but it happened, Spelling took the risk
This is Charmed Cafè not I hate Brad Kern Cafè, it's always nice to talk of the sisters
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 7, 2015 10:48:32 GMT -5
Maybe if we talk of Charmed, forgetting the writers, ceasing to simplify the problems, because in the magic world of the television productions the economic criteria are the first in the ranking list, before show runner and producers, the Cafè will become more attractive
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 7, 2015 10:13:03 GMT -5
I consider Cole the more interesting male character of Charmed,I have a liking for him
I think that the story between Phoebe and Cole ended not because of his demonic side but because of his human side
Nothing to do with the fact that he was the Source, Cole behaves like a classic male traitor:he drags Phoebe in a dark wedding, impregnates her without her consent and her awareness, he accepts that she was drugged with a potion that affects their baby, he lies to her shamelessly
I'ld never forgive who lies to me shamelessly
I don't think that Cole was possessed by the Source, I think that Cole was subconsciously sick and tired of being human
After having been for years a powerful and feared demon, member of a mighty brotherhood, a vain man also- I remember his haute couture clothes- it must have been unbearable being no longer able to fight at Phoebe's side, having to be protected by he
He had to become a kept man, living with Piper's earnings, Piper who had to support the Manor, two sisters, her husband and her bother in law
As the Source, he got back to being a valuable member of the society a rich, lawyer who could afford a penthouse, buy stylish clothes to his wife, I think that Cole, without being fully aware, needed to get back to his previous life as demon and lawyer
Phoebe and Cole'ld have time to live together their "normal life", to understand what they wanted and to make plans, but they were overwhelmed by the inadequate time allowed by the frenzy of the Source
It was a pity, Cole is and will be the true love of Phoebe
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 7, 2015 9:13:42 GMT -5
Welcome back Es, rarely I agree with you but I miss you when you're gone
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Post by erikamarie on Oct 7, 2015 9:11:49 GMT -5
Piper got her dreamed restaurant when she finally had the serenity essential to run a restaurant
If youh have a restaurant, you have to start early in the morning (for example, I am Switzerland, in my Canton after 7 am it's forbidden to deliver goods), to work all the day, closing late at night
Apart from the problem of children, I think it'ld be a big deal for a Charmed One being a chef:stop the cooking of a sturgeon or a flan it'ld be a great mess
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 24, 2015 13:21:46 GMT -5
For what we know of a cupid, he has no powers
In Greek mythology, he was a god pre-Olympic,so selfish and cruel that Zeus asked Aphrodite to kill him. She wasn't able to do it, so she hid him in the woods where he was raised by wild animals making him even more capricious and evil both to the men and to the gods
He is the god of eroticism and in the Greeks and Romans' s imagination he symbolized the danger that passion may provoke
Even in mythology he hasn't active powers, he is a dangerous god because passion'ld be dangerous
I don't like as in Charmed cupids were minimized as sweet cherubs wedded to love, a cupid with active fighter powers would be absolutely ridiculous
In addition, if he loves Phoebe so much, how could agree to see her grow old and die?Even worse , to see his daughters grow old and die?
He doesn't have to give up his powers because he doesn't have powers and Phoebe is perfectly able to protect her girls and her husband, after all Dumain didn't have trouble stealing the ring
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 22, 2015 12:59:43 GMT -5
The story of the Charmed One for me is only what I watched on tv, I didn't read the books or the comicis, as a rule I am disappointed by those stories
If Piper talked about the surprise and the joy of having a daughter,reluctantly I'ld bear with this news, but she only told of her restaurant, a good thing for her that loves so much to cook: a restaurant not a daughter
I was relieved that the next generation was represented only by Wyatt and Chris and not by a multitude of cousins
I tried to read some fanfic with "Melinda" and, as I foresaw, the poor girl was or unbearably wise or a boring know-it-all or a cocky source of troubles
Those who like Melinda's idea could do as Storygirl, her Melinda is the only child of Morality Bites,in her story the different plane of time crisscrossed
Recalling the words of Mrs. Jenkins, Melinda'ld be not a witch, no powers, no magic:in this case, it would be logical that Melinda developped a different life apart from her brothers
I'ld like Melinda who moves to New York to become a chef or working as doctor for Doctors Without Borders or, if she had her aunt Paige's artistic temperament, going to Florence to study fine arts, free standing and peacefully far away from magic
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 22, 2015 11:18:15 GMT -5
Sorry but I am done with the never ending argument about Doherty, Kern, Milano and company: I don’t think that there can be only one truth but a mix of intolerance, after all Doherty was always a wayward person and maybe Spelling was fed up, we can't know and we'll never know
I don’t worry about the actors or the producers, I care for Prue: what happened to her that day
Prue was tired, very tired, for too long a time she was worring about the Source’s threat, he was becoming an obsession
At the start, it was so simple being a witch : Phoebe foretold a danger for some innocent, they intervened to save him/her, than they were able to go to work or to shop or to a date or to clean the Manor, very pleased with theirselves to have done their job well
Then they had drawn the attention of powerful demons and their life had become complicated and dangerous
Prue was tired and when you are tired easily you do foolish act and mistakes, this’ld explain the reason for the crazy idea to chase Shax, with all the very bad consequences
Why was Shax after the doctor? It’s not so central, IMO it was a trap of the Source
As for Phoebe, she’ldn’t know that she faced an emissary of the Source, not a mere demon and, sure that the spell had worked, she wasright to believe that finally she’ld have the time to help Cole
Who has the main fault of the situation is Penny: without unlocking the powers of girls, sh'ld still train them, teach them to use potions and spells,to deal with risky practices, to work as a team.
Witches by chance and inexpert, the sisters have had a short time to learn magic and moreover, because of her decisive nature, Prue was in control - they didn’t act as a team as Piper and Phoebe ‘ll be able to do working with Paige- and Prue was dead tired
Not least, the Elders: I don’t like them and in AHBL they are on the sidelines looking at an absolutel disaster without giving not even a little hint
It’ld be the end of the Charmed One and they seemed not to care
I always will love Charmed because it's about three women, not three heroines or three Templar of th Good or three superpowered warriors: three women and this was their salvation
The magic, the powers, ok, they are valuable but it was Phoebe’s joyfull behavior that made the magic to steal from the Triad their powerful killer: Cole's help was crucial for the sisters to understand what's going on and it will be to get Tempus to reverse the time
Without a skilled demon on their side for love, without a sweet Whitelighter ready to disobey the Elders for love.that day would have been a catastrophe
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 18, 2015 9:39:10 GMT -5
At present I read that the woods around Salt Lake are used as set for several horror movies because of the light taxes
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 18, 2015 5:27:58 GMT -5
Salt Lake City because of the mountains- sorry I am an highlander - and the frightening woods, I visited 15 years ago with my family during a holiday and I liked the place
I love both New York and Boston, but Boston fits like a glove, more snug and solemn
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 18, 2015 4:23:57 GMT -5
Where and when it is said that Wyatt is Twicw Blessed because he is the kid of a Charmed One and a whitelighter No one ever said this It'ld be enough to watch the episode of Wyatt's birth -The Day The Magic Died: Cronyn: Oh, I have waited a life time for this. Stanley: The Aurora Borealis is a rare sight indeed, sir. (Stanley throws the wood onto the fire.) Cronyn: It's much more than that. Two centuries ago when I became an apprentice, I devoted my life to sorcery and the black arts. And do you know why? Stanley: No, sir. Cronyn: In the hope that an ancient prophecy, which my mentor kept hidden, would one day come to pass. Stanley: Has it? Cronyn: Well, look up. The signs are converging. The future of all magic hangs in the balance. And only I know it. - hoebe: What happened to magic? (No answer.) ................... Paige: Answer the lady's question. Merrill: Centuries ago, I unearthed a quatrain from the tomb of a wise apothecary. "When three planets burn as one over a sky of dancing light, magic will rest for a holy day to welcome a twice blessed child." Paige: Those are the signs that we saw. The Aurora Borealis, the planetary alignment, the wiccan Sabbath. Read more: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/user/8048/recent#ixzz3m50ks7HZ |
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 18, 2015 4:05:43 GMT -5
It's economy, Tim!
Supernatural took TCS place, I know that Kripke was working on this project for 10 years, ma as I wrote in another topic, the theme of two brothers is a classic
When Burge suggested to Spelling Production the Charmed story, the protagonists 'ld be three university students who, living together, become witches and begin to fight evil, as in The Craft movie
Duke Vincent didn't like the similarity with the movie and suggested that the protagonists were three sisters who were witches
Same fate for Supernatural: Kripke was thinking of a series of two reporters who travelled chasing demons, but the production didn't like the idea of reporters, so Kripke opted for two brothers, a classic topic
Who knows, maybe Kripke got the clue from TCS fans
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 17, 2015 15:40:34 GMT -5
I think that nobody allowed Chris to jump in the past: he was alone and he opeted for a frantic action
Over to Chris:that was supposed to be more like a surgical strike (Chris Crossed)
Regarding the Titans, it was a great, smart tall tale
Bianca: Don't tell them anything. Just stick to your cover story. The less they know about the future, the better.
Chris: But what if they find out who I really am?
Bianca: They won't. Not as long as you can pass yourself off as their Whitelighter.
The cover story was the lie about the attack of Titans
Leo: Why didn't you tell me? Why did you let this happen!
Chris: Because this had to happen. It had to happen so you could do what has to be done.
Chris:You can still defeat the Titans.
Leo: How?
Chris: I think you know how.
Leo: It's too dangerous. The Elders forbid it.
Chris: True. But then again, the Elders aren't around to stop you now, are they? That's right, Leo. This is what it's all about. This is why they had to die so you could do something they'd never do. To save a future for your family, for your son. (Oh My Goddness)
Chris changed nothing, he used his knowledge of what happened to take credit and to become the sisters's whitelighter
In the original future, Phoebe defended Paige as Chris did, Leo resolved alone to do goddness powers to the sister and became an Elder, an Elder too busy to raise his boys
Leo never imagined who was Wyatt's kidnapper and never mistrusted the other Elders so the Avatar never took the opportunity to recruit Leo..but this is another story
I liked that it wasn't a demon to endanger Wyatt but a trusted person, very often we don't look out at how may be easy to deeply disturb a child
Chris was young, he never would be able even to imagine his powerfull big brother traumatized by a family friend
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 17, 2015 14:38:34 GMT -5
I look at the show, I'm not concerned with the writers
They were blumbering, with very good ideas often wasted
Now there is more professionalism, a generation of good writers champs at the bit to write for TV series, while once they wanted only to write for movies
The quality is increasing by leaps and bounds, now the mistakes and the naivety of Charmed couldn't exist
But I still like the show, the sisters, women less perfect and more alive than those of Once Upon a Time, for example
I'm not a great fan of Burge, particularly after the mess she did in Ally McBeal:of course they'ld do a better job butI don't root for none of them
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 17, 2015 14:12:44 GMT -5
CYMA, june 17:
"It’s this control that Chris demonstrates that would keep his brother, the powerhouse in line. He is the one who grounds Wyatt. The only reason (baring Gideon’s influence) that Wyatt went evil in the other future was because Chris was too devastated by the loss of his mother to keep in control, to keep his brother in line. Chris is the yin to Wyatt’s yang".
Getting back to what one was talking about
One of the member of Destined board was a PhD in History of Medieval Literature, I remeber long and intriguing debates about the difference between Wyatt and Chris
She claimed that is a bedrock of medieval literature that a powerful brother required a powerless brother,to save himself from the risk that his limitless power deprived him of humanity
Chris, with his behavior full of light and shadow, matched the literary figure of the reluctantly hero, who takes responsibility in spite of his ability: if the two brothers had equal powers, the story would be lacking of appeal
As I often recall, Wyatt is Twice Blessed because of the day he was born, not because of his parents: he belongs to a different prophecy that moves away from the Warren story
Wyatt inherited from Piper the fire power, from Leo the ability to orb and to heal, no other powers More and better, he has the ability to control the magic as he was a living Book of Shadows
Chris inherited the ability to move objects with his mind from Warren family, and he was good as Prue, and the ability to orb from his father: not always it's achievable to inherit everything, it's a law of the genetic
The link between the two brothers is glaring even in Future Chris when he speaks to his baby brother as if he was the adult one
My Three Wirches: Chris turns to Wyatt: It's your fault I have to do this now.
But Kill Bill 2 gets rid of every doubt: Wyatt knows that Chris has got the power, Chris is able to get back his big brother, it' a strong bond
The kind of bond that Supernatural took the opportunity to go on so many seasons
BTW, it's not by chance that when Sam begins to develop supernatural powers, Castiel asks Dean to stop him: the brother powerless is the key control
Baby's First Demon:
Crone: The witches have nothing compared to... This child is powerful beyond your understanding. What I have foreseen, is not to be ignored.
Parasite Demon #2: What? What did you see? What is he?
Crone: He is our end. We'll have nothing more to do with this... being.
The Elders, the Demons of the Tribunal, everyone agree about balance: maybe Gideon's worry began with Crone's vision,the Elders never asked for the end of Underworld
"this... being"' and his brother'ld be the engine of a myth different from that of their lineage but, as Dean and Sam, they can't be like peas in a pod
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