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Post by erikamarie on Apr 12, 2011 3:01:30 GMT -5
my mom thought to watch charmed that evening I had to write a paper so I took a peek and I was conquered by the story and phoebe
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2011 7:48:23 GMT -5
I say that I had fun watching Valhalley of the Dolls
I like Chris charcters not because the actor- actually I never saw other series with him as some fans- but because of his ambiguity
When I watch TV I try to relax not to spend time controlling every details but if you wish...okay so the Valkyrie
First: what kind of Valkyrie are they? The nine Wotan daughters? Or the godnesses who chose the most heroic of the fallen warriors to use them during Ragnarock Battle? None of them
The idea of war between good and evil is far from the task of the traditional valkyries so I think they'ld be the spirits of the war sometimes named valkyries who train the warriors: you can't kill them but you can force the spirit to walk thought the shadow lands to return to her sisters
If the Valkyrie was one of them she wasn't killed and she wasn't able to kill the policeman- Chris calls an ambulance so there was hope for him
Second: has the sister the right to steal Darryll soul?
No, of course. Is so gross in a dangerous moment to drag a friend into a situation that you're sure he will be safe? It's not a major tragedy for me
And Piper's fruit:would you sent a person to a firing squad for buying fruit and avoid the customs? Every Saturday a lot of people of my valley take a train cross the border and go to grocery shopping to the Italian market to avoid paying customs duties. If the police customs discovers them, they pay the difference they'll not be executed
It is more serious if you don't clean up the dog business, you pay a fine of more than 1000 $
and if we want to be pedantic: Arroyo fever is linked to a virus which is in association with rodents - has Piper eaten a mouse?- not flies and that fruit Kewano is from cucumber family rich in vitamin c and fiber
I agree with Piper
Phoebe: Wait, you smuggled it in?
Piper: Oh, it’s fruit, Phoebe, not drugs
Don't kill me Es!!!
Wish me luck, I'll spend three days to measure a manor, no one will execute me if I make mistakes but I am worried
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 16, 2011 6:51:24 GMT -5
Time are changing...you are young Sammy!
I like to talk with you or Esmeralda and you have more or less the age of my mother who describe herself as differently young
Stay with us and start to have funny again
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2011 5:53:44 GMT -5
I loved and I love Charmed because I loved and love the sisters all four the sisters- I always though I'ld never bear a big sister like prue even if I like her- I love the idea of magic in our world as when I was a child I believed in the protecting fairies of my valley
I see the mistakes but I don't care I still love most episodes and feel the magic of these stories
In eight years they have grown they shifted from the enthusiasm of their twenty's to the life more complex of their thirty's a life where you have to have a job a house and if you have a family, time for them and I like also this change
Try to watch Charmed for what it is, a nice series about the love of sisters, affectionate and generous women because they lost a sister a mother friends and fiances because of magic and they never give up
Normal people -except for extraordinary people- would not have this tenacity
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2011 5:30:41 GMT -5
*nods* I agree with both of you. Now that I think about it, I'm sure that Leo mentioned "The Founders" and "The Elder whilteighters" when first talking to Phoebe about what he is. Who are these mysterious Founders? Did we see any signs of them outside of this single mention? And I'll throw something back at you guys. I don't think Leo's "bosses' bosses" were the Tribunal. Did Kern murder off the "bosses' bosses" before that trial? Was there any other sign passed "The Honeymoon is Over" (one of Connie's episodes that Kern took over) of these "bosses' bosses"? The Founder are the Elders, simply they changed the name the Elders are only the group of the oldest whitelighter who took commmand Secret and Guys Leo: I was sent to watch over you and your sisters when you first got your powers. You know, help out wherever I could. Phoebe: Sent by who? Leo: Whom. They’re a group of elder white lighters. They’re known as the founders. You were never supposed to find out. I screwed up and got caught. |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2011 5:20:40 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of the sisters having to face the "authority" of the Elders. The Wiccans have a belief that everyone receives some kind of karmic payback for their actions. I like the idea of the Halliwells receiving karmic payback for their actions . . . and learning a lesson from it. As it was portrayed in "Morality Bites". I too Why the Elders'ld have control over the witches? I understood that magic control itself so who use magic in a bad way would suffer unpredictable consequences, even those with good intentions but little capacity in using the magic, see Paige and her big breast How could the Elders remove powers if they are genetically inherited? |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 15, 2011 4:30:25 GMT -5
I agree with Lj
I am always surprised to see how it is mythologized Connie Burge
She was in charge of writing a series inspired by The Craft with a touch of Charlie Angels and I think she was well paid: it was a job as well as Ally Mc Beal where she wrote some of the worse episodes of the series
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 10, 2011 3:23:34 GMT -5
These are the only characters you can remember from Burge's tenure? Clearly not I was talking of characters I found interesting and I forgot Barbas and the Brotherhood I like Morris but he is the usual friend / detective who serves only to give information and be amazed by the magic as Dan is the usual boy next door, such characters are always useful to a story but not interesting as a Leo or Andy I like the Brotherhood I like the idea of business demons living in the city and working to go deep into the economic bases, demons with brain and money are more dangerous than stupid monsters I do not like the Source's appearance why a Big Bad has to be nasty? Evil can be seductive |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 9, 2011 11:24:43 GMT -5
those are the characters I like and I forgot in the Burge years the cupid: he was funny and more likeable than the sexy Coop of season 8
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 9, 2011 5:42:40 GMT -5
Kern years: Cole Wyatt -child and evil, good Wyatt was so fake that I thought he was acting- Chris Henry Crone Zankou Drake Kyra Christy- a good character with too few time to develope- the Seer
Burge years: Andy Tempus Leo the Triad
The writers were more or less 40 so I think the characters were discussed and refined by more than one person and I think that
often the brevity of the presence of the actors was linked to their commitments and their cost
Kyle was an interesting character but I can't stand that actor so I was biased against him
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 9, 2011 5:21:02 GMT -5
Me, Keith Richards and Jack Daniels thank you for sharing. Glad to see that you are a Designing Woman...woops, that show is gone too.... ;D Sorry I don't understand the hint |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 9, 2011 5:17:43 GMT -5
Charmed'ld become a golden goose with that final they'ld make different types of spin off
- the classic Wyatt and Chris spin off or
-Wyatt Chris Melinda story two powerful brother with classic troublemaker teen sister or
-Phoebe's girls as psychologist-Charlie's angels or
-Henry junior as a witch without powers detective with two overactive powerful twin sisters or (my fear)
-next generation spin off
The production wanted three children for sisters to lock a good number of characters up for sale
I'ld like an ambiguous final too, as in season 7
It'ld have been enough if they had ended on the image of Phoebe writing: "So much has happened over the last eight years. So much has been gained and lost..
"they'ld have had to end with these words, Phoebe talking of their 8 years as witches, a final which sends back to the start, the night when Phoebe found the Book of Shadows
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 3, 2011 10:36:37 GMT -5
Yup. Just like I said, I truly never believed that the girls were Wiccans. When they never once mention the Goddess or all of the other stuff that's part of being Wiccans...no. I agree If I remember well, when Piper got her fire power, she accidentally destroyed their Christmas decorations And Phoebe's wedding was planned in a church Posted by NubianWitch on Feb 26, 2011, 2:46pm
I think "Whitelighters" should have been less like guardian angels, and more like guardian fay, immortal aspects of nature, or something like that, who guide good witches. That's more accurately Wiccan.
If they were guardian fay they'ld have to take care of fairies |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 3, 2011 10:25:46 GMT -5
*nods* You're exactly right, Erika. This is also the information I've discovered, started back in high school when I read Marion Zimmer Bradley's "Firebrand" (a retelling of the Trojan War from Kassandra's point of view) and wanted to know just how much of it was based on reality. What I found fascinated me so much that I did a research paper on this and got an A. This is also why it's a serpent that tempts Eve - many of those ancient religions worshipped a serpent-mother. I loved that book and the Mists of Avalon too! The anthropologists date at the primitive civilizations the combination woman / magic, they had very vague ideas about procreation and attributed to the women the magic of the birth When it began the development of the rural society, they thought that a goddess-the great mother- had the power to make fertile the fields and her magic could be transmitted only through women Till the advent of Achaean civilization the magic belonged to the women, it is an anthropological fact, not sexism |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 2, 2011 12:21:24 GMT -5
I agree with Es, before Greek divinities in Europe it was prevalent the cult of the triple goddess and her priestesses ruled the community: the priestesses of the goddess have long maintained their power even in warrior society as the Spartan
The Triquetra / Triskelion is a symbol that is spread across all Europe from Crete to Sicily or Isle of Man
Robert Graves used Frazer anthropological studies to find a cultural continuum in all Indo-European peoples to explain the passage from the Great Goddess to the male gods and to a different type of social organization
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 2, 2011 11:38:29 GMT -5
In the most part of the ancient legends and mythes it is believed that strong powers'ld infect the wisdom of a leader We talked of this in Destined:maybe the Elders can give powers but cannot use them and this held true till It's a bad bad bad world when Leo flipped out and used a forbidden power . He infected the Elders and they lost their wisdom Could it work? I hated the Elders in 7 and 8 season |
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 26, 2011 2:14:14 GMT -5
In Swiss 13 is a lucky number
Do you know why in anglo saxon countries 13 is an unlucky number?
It cames from the time when the months were 13 not 12 and the thirteenth month was the month of sacrifice, the priestess used the king's blood to protect the seeds from the winter frost in earlier times the priestess killed the head of the village to protect the crop that would feed the community
Esmeralda 13 is a lucky number for you because you are a woman a because of your name
it's from smaragdus which means not only emerald but hope
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 26, 2011 2:03:29 GMT -5
Maybe we'ld think of the Elders as keepers of powers they can't use but I also hated that line the Power of Three maybe with the help of Warren line as it was for the Source it'ld be a good base to fight the Titans
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 26, 2011 1:52:50 GMT -5
if the Cleaners were assigned to protect magic they'ld intervene when Prue exposed it but they didn't
They were ready to come in only with Wyatt in a nasty way taking the baby. And then? They'ld kill the baby?Or they wanted the baby? or the Elders wanted the baby?
The Cleaners were hostile to the sisters not neutral
About Wyatt I think Piper was right not binding his powers how can you educate a person to live with strong powers to control them if you don't start when he is a child? Do you think it'ld be easy when he is an hormonal teen?
And how coud Piper, living in constant danger as charmed one, take the chance to defend himself away from her baby?
IN Kill Bill vol II Piper's children save each other using their powers, Victor'ldn't be able to do it
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Post by erikamarie on Feb 26, 2011 1:28:30 GMT -5
I find this discussion boring
In another site I read from a fan who is studing TV in LA how difficult and problematic is to write a series can't believe that 40 writers had time to think how to manipualate the audience they had barely the time to write the 50/60 pages of the script
Too many writers too few editors a show runner with too many tasks Spelling producers with no clear ideas, they first wanted a magic Charlie's Angels and Burge wrote it then changed idea and wanted a magic family then wanted teens audience plus adult women audience imposing men from Sex and the City instead of Leo...too chaotic even for the writers
Plus I fear Charmed Cafè'ld become as charmed sons a place were you can analize nothing because every thing is Kern fault-so why talk?
Plus..I am an interiors designer, as student looking at the work of others I saw many imperfections, I'ld not use that color I'ld not use that material I'ld put two couchs instead of one ...I was very good at jumping on their jobs and it's easy to refine what others had already done
But when I had my first project alone and I was in an empty room with three persons who wished different things I got into a panic: zero ideas and my project was so bad to be ashamed
Fortunately, my colleagues made it acceptable and I have learned to be more understanding
I think Charmed writers did what they were able to do, some were good and loved the sisters some weren't so interessed and worked in a slipshod way it happens
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