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Post by redeyedjames on Aug 18, 2014 7:48:38 GMT -5
(I am new to this site, sorry if a post like this has been posted before, or if I am in the wrong category, please redirect me if I am!) So recently, I thought of how there is half white lighters, and wondered if there could be things like half cupids, half elders, etc... Anyway, this made me wonder what the most powerful combination would be (Lets leave angels out, I do not beleive they would break the rules, it is pushing it that I mention Elders) Family tree Wyatt+Elder Cupid+Source Half charmed witch powers Half source, half cupid. Would be able to blink, use various demonic powers and go back in time. Lets all her Olivia (Lets assume full charmed power as Wyatt has also got the full charmed power) + Elder power (Lets call him Jake) Olivia+Jake= My idea of the most powerful witch ever. Open to criticism and suggestions! Feel free to comment any changes you would make
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Post by cyma on Aug 18, 2014 14:35:27 GMT -5
Interesting topic. Would have to think about what combination can produce the most powerful witch or being. Probably an Angel of Destiny or Death with a witch But since we're not using angels here, would have to think about it...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 15:49:14 GMT -5
Well, the most powerful 'being' ever would probably be a Triad-Elder hybrid as both are almost impossible to vanquish, but that being wouldn't be a witch anyway. The most powerful witch could be any hybrid we saw on the show; Phoebe (Empath-Witch), Paige (Witch-Whitelighter), Christy (Witch-Firestarter). In fact, probably Wyatt, as the Twice-Blessed Child, combined with Empathy and Firestarting powers. That would be one strong witch.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 18, 2014 18:07:33 GMT -5
All depends upon what you mean by powerful...
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Post by robert123 on Aug 18, 2014 23:10:49 GMT -5
I say exactly as Esmeralda, because the idea of Powerful is relative to all of us, we need to establish a meaning for it so we can discuss it properly. Although yours and Deano's ideas are actually very good theories, and I like all of them. Now a witch-elder-source-cupid-whitelighter would be very weird haaha, he/she would have so many powers (At least if we're going to follow the series logics about powers, because I don't completely agree with it, but since it was stated on the show, we may as well make it sound like it)
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 19, 2014 3:43:31 GMT -5
That's why I hate the idea of hybrids. The show is called Charmed; it's about witches. A witch with a single non-hybrid power from the non-witch parent is one thing, but when the most powerful witches are only 164th witch, if that much, shows how much the WITCH powers should decide how powerful they are, not any other. Making Paige more whitelighter than witch was a horrible mistake
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Post by sky1 on Aug 20, 2014 10:27:15 GMT -5
Isn't this question already been answered in the show? Phoebe's and Cole's child in season 4!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 20, 2014 10:58:15 GMT -5
I think the show proved that Wyatt the Twice-Blessed Brat was quite a bit more powerful than the Phoetus.
Of course we don't know what the Phoetus would've been like had he lived, but most of the beings had powers in the womb (Chris an exception but then Big Chris already had the powers, so Fetus Chris couldn't have them until Big Chris died the day Fetus Chris was born). The Phoetus could throw fire.
Whoopee.
So could P. Russell, Tyler and Christy.
At that point, neither Cole or the Source were all that powerful - only with what they could do to other demons, something I don't think the Phoetus would've been able to do. So I'd still put the Twice Blessed Brat (and quite a few other beings) as more powerful than the Phoetus.
Any combination of witch with an Angel of...or a Demon of...would've been more powerful.
Actually I'd take that child that Daisy and the Darklighter could've had in "Love Hurts" as more powerful than the Phoetus, because he could take out both witches and Whitelighters - now within the concepts of the show, that's what I would call powerful, much more than anything the Phoetus showed.
A being half-Darklighter/half-Angel of...Demon of...
Imagine if Patty had had an affair with a Darklighter rather than a Whitelighter, and like our Paige, Patty and the Darklighter's child had been more Darklighter than witch...
Then *Paige* would've been the most powerful, especially if she was evil and willing to use her powers against her sisters and her sister's husband.
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Post by sky1 on Aug 21, 2014 6:29:55 GMT -5
Phoetus showed more powerful feats while only being what weeks old in the womb. Then Wayatt ever did. Even after he was born.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 21, 2014 7:58:24 GMT -5
What did Phoetus do besides throw fire?
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Aug 21, 2014 12:15:27 GMT -5
He was able to "control" his mother from what I remember.
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Post by sky1 on Aug 21, 2014 13:39:32 GMT -5
What did Phoetus do besides throw fire? For one he destroyed a demon so powerful, that even the previous Sources of all Evil couldn't stop. But just seal him away. And he was two-month-old fetus? And he showed others amount of powers beside "just trowing fire". Shapeshifting other objects, reading minds, telekinesis etc etc. It's not about who has more powers. The fetus power was just on another level.
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Post by redeyedjames on Aug 21, 2014 16:01:53 GMT -5
If you can see, I included the source in the family tree. Wyatt basically has all the powers of Paige, Phoebe and Piper as well, then he has Elder lightning power, he is vanquishable but I recall the source being vanquished and simply coming back with no explanation. Wyatt also summons a dragon that he sees on TV, I think that is projection. What we are looking at here is a witch that has nearly every single power going, could cast any spell and is nearly unvanquishable.It could also go back in time to stop things happening with he cupid ring.
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Post by sky1 on Aug 22, 2014 6:04:03 GMT -5
If you can see, I included the source in the family tree. Wyatt basically has all the powers of Paige, Phoebe and Piper as well, then he has Elder lightning power, he is vanquishable but I recall the source being vanquished and simply coming back with no explanation. Wyatt also summons a dragon that he sees on TV, I think that is projection. What we are looking at here is a witch that has nearly every single power going, could cast any spell and is nearly unvanquishable.It could also go back in time to stop things happening with he cupid ring.1. When was it shown in the show that Wayatt has Phoebe's, Piper's and Elder powers? 2. I don't think such person exist! I still stand by my point. Charmed magic + Source's magic. Having this kinds of magic combined within a single being. Will make that person extremely powerful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 19:16:44 GMT -5
I think Phoetus and Wyatt were pretty equally matched as unborn magical children, because Wyatt brought Grams back from the dead, changed his mother's power into something completely different and even switched his parents powers, displaying highly advanced Projection power. So, you could argue that he could exercise similar levels of control over his mother as Phoetus could, the only difference is Phoetus was Evil.
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Post by phoenixflame on Aug 26, 2014 8:27:38 GMT -5
I second that (well, sort of). It's even possible that the most powerful witch is the offspring of Phoetus and Wyatt. But obviously could'nt be related.
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Post by phoenixflame on Aug 26, 2014 8:34:22 GMT -5
If you can see, I included the source in the family tree. Wyatt basically has all the powers of Paige, Phoebe and Piper as well, then he has Elder lightning power, he is vanquishable but I recall the source being vanquished and simply coming back with no explanation. Wyatt also summons a dragon that he sees on TV, I think that is projection. What we are looking at here is a witch that has nearly every single power going, could cast any spell and is nearly unvanquishable.It could also go back in time to stop things happening with he cupid ring.1. When was it shown in the show that Wayatt has Phoebe's, Piper's and Elder powers? 2. I don't think such person exist! I still stand by my point. Charmed magic + Source's magic. Having this kinds of magic combined within a single being. Will make that person extremely powerful. About them saying Wyatt had all his aunt's powers, they may just be confused by when Piper cloaked herself as Wyatt (that freaked me out the first time I saw it) and the Phoebe part...well I don't know where that came from.
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Post by ljones on Aug 28, 2014 23:26:55 GMT -5
["I think the show proved that Wyatt the Twice-Blessed Brat was quite a bit more powerful than the Phoetus."]
Considering that "the Twice-Blessed Brat" could have his ass flung across the room by his younger and less powerful brother, why should he be considered more powerful than "Phoetus"?
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Post by robert123 on Aug 28, 2014 23:37:33 GMT -5
But Phoetus wasn't born, so we can't know for sure that he couldn't get pushed by Chris, right?
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Post by sky1 on Aug 29, 2014 13:52:45 GMT -5
But Phoetus wasn't born, so we can't know for sure that he couldn't get pushed by Chris, right? Two months old Phoetus still in a womb. Showed more feats that grown up Chris!
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