thesonandheir
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Post by thesonandheir on Sept 6, 2017 20:25:51 GMT -5
I want to hear about some what if scenarios for charmed like say what if they never discovered their powers and what would happen or what if they met cole in season one just general stuff like that
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Post by craig on Sept 6, 2017 21:19:07 GMT -5
So many what if's to think about. It is very fascinating to think about. We could come up with a list as long as 40 or 50 or 100 with so many great scenarios. Maybe picking one at random and discussing it.
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Post by cyma on Sept 7, 2017 6:00:03 GMT -5
So many what if's to think about. It is very fascinating to think about. We could come up with a list as long as 40 or 50 or 100 with so many great scenarios. Maybe picking one at random and discussing it. Seeing as there could be possibly billion or even an infinite amount of scenarios and it would’ve gotten confusing if everything got chunked into this one thread, I made another thread for listing all those infinite scenarios: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/12241/charmed-list-all-scenariosList whatever scenario which comes into your mind in that thread. Then pick and choose which one you wanna discuss in detail in this thread  I want to hear about some what if scenarios for charmed like say what if they never discovered their powers and what would happen or what if they met cole in season one just general stuff like that I have a teeny tiny request. Could you pretty please change the title of this thread from " Charmed what if" to " Charmed What if: Scenario Discussion"? |
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Post by thesonandheir on Sept 7, 2017 15:04:13 GMT -5
Okay what if it was cole instead of Rodrigues who went after the sisters in deja vu all over again. That means phoebe would have met cole earlier in the show and instead of a cop interrogating Andy it was cole as a DA would it be any different?
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 7, 2017 18:19:14 GMT -5
If Cole takes Rodrigues's place, I wonder if he'd team up with Tempus to defeat the sisters. Cole/Belthazor might consider himself too powerful to need anyone else's help.
And I'm not sure if the connection would have been the same between Phoebe and Cole if they had met earlier. Phoebe might have been too young at that time to want to be with someone who had a career set up and was so much more mature. Cole seemed almost too mature for her in season 3, so he for sure would be in season 1. Plus he would be going after Andy, who Phoebe cared about, and it would change the way she saw him completely. In season 3, he was trying to put a murderer behind bars, and in season 1, Rodrigues was going after a family friend. So he might not be a love interest here.
It would make for some excellent scenes between Andy and Cole though. They had a similar intensity.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Sept 8, 2017 4:34:46 GMT -5
Plus Phoebe was fun loving and carefree then who liked being a witch and so might've focused on that instead of forming a relationship.
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 8, 2017 6:45:53 GMT -5
Exactly. Phoebe was too young at heart at that time to want to be involved with anyone. Cole's plan would have to be entirely different if he went after them so early.
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 8, 2017 7:01:17 GMT -5
This is Miranda Turner's idea that I thought was really interesting:
"62. What if the sisters were 2-3 years younger when they first got their powers. Piper was fresh out of college, Prue working for about 2 years, Phoebe is in college as a freshman or 2 years?"
I've thought about this before myself, and I think it would be an excellent way to improve the series. Prue wouldn't be all that different. In the show she had been out of college and working for about five years or so. Having her be a few years younger wouldn't change her that much, but maybe we'd get to see more of her developing as a professional. In season 1 she was already like superwoman at her career, and it would be cool to see Prue as she is still developing her professional identity, watching her struggle with it a little bit.
I think Piper would be more neurotic than we saw at the beginning, as she doesn't have as much real world experience yet. We could see her just beginning work and becoming a real adult.
Phoebe being a few years younger gives her more time to remain the Phoebe that a lot of people liked: the carefree wild child that was so fun to watch. Plus it makes it more believable that she doesn't work for a while and doesn't take a whole lot seriously, and that she latches onto the idea of being a witch so easily.
Overall for me, the best years of the show were when the sisters were the main family. In the latter half of the show, it became about having or wanting to have children, getting more serious in relationships and getting married, and half of the time, they lived apart. Of course, these are all normal things that a lot of people do as they get older. They move further from the family they were born into and go out and start their own families.
But if all the sisters were a few years younger than we saw, we'd get more time where it was just the three of them. Things like marriages, babies, and getting their own places to live could be pushed back for a few more seasons. So maybe Piper and Leo didn't get married until season 5 and didn't have a baby until season 7, and maybe it's only in season 8 that Phoebe starts to become obsessed with having a kid. This way, we get more seasons of the sisters being together before they begin to grow apart.
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Post by craig on Sept 8, 2017 8:41:09 GMT -5
So many what if's to think about. It is very fascinating to think about. We could come up with a list as long as 40 or 50 or 100 with so many great scenarios. Maybe picking one at random and discussing it. Seeing as there could be possibly billion or even an infinite amount of scenarios and it would’ve gotten confusing if everything got chunked into this one thread, I made another thread for listing all those infinite scenarios: thecharmedcafe.proboards.com/thread/12241/charmed-list-all-scenariosList whatever scenario which comes into your mind in that thread. Then pick and choose which one you wanna discuss in detail in this thread I want to hear about some what if scenarios for charmed like say what if they never discovered their powers and what would happen or what if they met cole in season one just general stuff like that I have a teeny tiny request. Could you pretty please change the title of this thread from " Charmed what if" to " Charmed What if: Scenario Discussion"? Thanks cyma for starting these threads.  What a great idea that has gone into so much potential. |
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 8, 2017 18:02:16 GMT -5
"108) What if Grams died when the sisters were still kids and the Matthews who had already adopted Paige, decide to adopt the rest of the Halliwell sisters too?"
This is cool to think about all the sisters growing up together, and Prue, Piper, and Phoebe having both a mom and a dad. Everything would have to come out about Paige being their half sibling and being given up, and I can see Prue having a hard time with that, knowing that her mom and Grams kept such a secret from her.
It would probably mean less issues for Prue because she has two loving parents, even though she knows her biological mom is dead, as is her grandmother, and her father abandoned them. I can see things being a little easier on Piper as well, having two parents and life being more stable. Phoebe would probably rebel a little less because of the more balanced house with both a mother and a father. I could see Paige either copying Phoebe or having the influence of Prue and Piper to keep her out of trouble.
Grams would probably leave the house to the sisters when they became adults, and they'd have to all move back in together to get their powers. Paige wouldn't be a part of the Power of Three because she was the youngest, but maybe with all of the magical things going on, she'd discover her whitelighter powers. Even if none of the sisters knew what a whitelighter was, they'd recognize that Paige is magical as well and they could still all work as a four-person team.
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Post by cyma on Sept 9, 2017 5:25:19 GMT -5
"108) What if Grams died when the sisters were still kids and the Matthews who had already adopted Paige, decide to adopt the rest of the Halliwell sisters too?" This is cool to think about all the sisters growing up together, and Prue, Piper, and Phoebe having both a mom and a dad. Everything would have to come out about Paige being their half sibling and being given up, and I can see Prue having a hard time with that, knowing that her mom and Grams kept such a secret from her. It would probably mean less issues for Prue because she has two loving parents, even though she knows her biological mom is dead, as is her grandmother, and her father abandoned them. I can see things being a little easier on Piper as well, having two parents and life being more stable. Phoebe would probably rebel a little less because of the more balanced house with both a mother and a father. I could see Paige either copying Phoebe or having the influence of Prue and Piper to keep her out of trouble. Grams would probably leave the house to the sisters when they became adults, and they'd have to all move back in together to get their powers. Paige wouldn't be a part of the Power of Three because she was the youngest, but maybe with all of the magical things going on, she'd discover her whitelighter powers. Even if none of the sisters knew what a whitelighter was, they'd recognize that Paige is magical as well and they could still all work as a four-person team. I love how you fleshed out the idea They would also have an Aunt Julie, Uncle Dave and also another grandmother. I can see Piper and Phoebe being more closer to Mrs. Matthews though Prue being sort of distant. Patty's drowning would definitely still haunt her. I could also see teen Phoebe and Paige being too curious for their own good to find out everything they can about Patty's drowning, Sam and Victor. Even visiting the Manor now and also the lake. And Andy's house too. Maybe even dragging Andy into their search for answers along with Glen. |
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 9, 2017 12:48:42 GMT -5
I love that idea, Cyma. I know from the beginning of the show, they were never meant to have another sister out there somewhere, and that it was always meant to be just the original three girls. But thinking of it this way is so much more appealing than the story we got. Prue, her friend/boyfriend Andy, Piper, Phoebe, and Paige and her friend/boyfriend Glen all growing up together and continuing to be close as adults sounds like so much fun.
It also clears up a lot of things that were wrong with the original version of the show. There was no good reason for Penny to never even give them a hint of their coming destiny. I understand that she didn't want it to limit them and she wanted them to have a normal life, but to leave them with nothing but a book in a locked attic seemed very irresponsible. I know she intended to strip their powers before she died, but on the off-chance that she died unexpectedly at any time during the girls' upbringing, it seems like a really crappy idea to not prepare them at all. If she dies when they're still young and all four sisters end up with the Matthews who were clueless about magic, their complete ignorance of their destiny makes sense.
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 11, 2017 7:20:13 GMT -5
"177: What if Piper and Leo adopted Tyler?"
I recently watched this episode and I thought about how well the three of them got along, and how good of a fit it might be. When Piper had Wyatt and Chris, to me, she acted a little obnoxious at times. With Tyler, she was calm and got through to him without treating him like a little kid, but at the same time was able to get him to do what she said. Someone of his age seemed a better match than starting from the beginning with babies.
Although I'm not sure if the whole thing would have worked out. At that time, it was almost too dangerous for the Charmed Ones to be in that house, let alone a powerless 11-year-old. And at that time, they didn't know exactly when they'd be fighting the Source. For all they knew, it could have been months of demon attacks before he finally came, and that environment could be very dangerous. And I'm not sure if it's something that Tyler would really want either. Maybe if they were more ordinary-level witches that only occasionally dealt with magic, it would be okay. But Tyler seemed to crave normalcy, and I don't think he'd get it with Piper and Leo.
But personality-wise, all three of them did fit well together. If there have to be kids involved in the show, I'd rather them be a bit older. Otherwise, it just changes the show too much. If Tyler did stay with them, they'd have to get through the Source stuff before officially adopting him. Then maybe Piper and Leo would have stopped trying to have their own baby, at least for a while, as they got used to having Tyler around. That would put off or maybe even stop Wyatt from being born altogether.
It also might change the priorities of everyone else in the house. Paige might decide that it's better for her new nephew to see her working hard at a normal job where she still gets to do good in the world, and she wouldn't quit being a social worker. Phoebe might decide to go more of a counselor route instead of some meaningless love advice column, because she also wants Tyler to see her helping people and making more of a meaningful difference in the world.
Overall, I think it would ground everyone a lot more. Paige and Phoebe might have better careers (or careers at all, in Paige's case), and Piper would get over herself a bit and not turn so self-centered as she did when she became pregnant.
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 11, 2017 12:30:22 GMT -5
"177: What if Piper and Leo adopted Tyler?" I recently watched this episode and I thought about how well the three of them got along, and how good of a fit it might be. When Piper had Wyatt and Chris, to me, she acted a little obnoxious at times. With Tyler, she was calm and got through to him without treating him like a little kid, but at the same time was able to get him to do what she said. Someone of his age seemed a better match than starting from the beginning with babies. Although I'm not sure if the whole thing would have worked out. At that time, it was almost too dangerous for the Charmed Ones to be in that house, let alone a powerless 11-year-old. And at that time, they didn't know exactly when they'd be fighting the Source. For all they knew, it could have been months of demon attacks before he finally came, and that environment could be very dangerous. And I'm not sure if it's something that Tyler would really want either. Maybe if they were more ordinary-level witches that only occasionally dealt with magic, it would be okay. But Tyler seemed to crave normalcy, and I don't think he'd get it with Piper and Leo. But personality-wise, all three of them did fit well together. If there have to be kids involved in the show, I'd rather them be a bit older. Otherwise, it just changes the show too much. If Tyler did stay with them, they'd have to get through the Source stuff before officially adopting him. Then maybe Piper and Leo would have stopped trying to have their own baby, at least for a while, as they got used to having Tyler around. That would put off or maybe even stop Wyatt from being born altogether. It also might change the priorities of everyone else in the house. Paige might decide that it's better for her new nephew to see her working hard at a normal job where she still gets to do good in the world, and she wouldn't quit being a social worker. Phoebe might decide to go more of a counselor route instead of some meaningless love advice column, because she also wants Tyler to see her helping people and making more of a meaningful difference in the world. Overall, I think it would ground everyone a lot more. Paige and Phoebe might have better careers (or careers at all, in Paige's case), and Piper would get over herself a bit and not turn so self-centered as she did when she became pregnant. Maybe it's because I have two daughters, but I consider Piper anything but selfish I'ld have liked to see Tyler again, as I'ld have liked to see Derek with his manticora son Anyway, I believe Paige had enough of her job as social worker, being a witch was more important and her job was moving to the background |
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Post by Elle Em on Sept 13, 2017 17:11:34 GMT -5
"10. What if Prue secretly knew about Paige?"
This is really intriguing. The news of Paige was life-changing to Piper and Phoebe, even without Prue having just died. For Prue to keep that information all to herself is very interesting.
I suppose she could have had her suspicions as a child that Patty was pregnant after having Phoebe. Piper and certainly Phoebe were so young that they would easily believe the lie that Patty had just gotten fat. But Prue would have been about six or seven years old at this time, and seeing as how she was so smart, maybe she would have wondered about it.
Maybe she didn’t think much of it until they met Sam and learned of his relationship with their mother. Maybe meeting Sam all those years later triggered memories of knowing him when she was little. It might have reawakened the idea in her mind that there might be another child out there.
I have no idea how she would find out about Paige, but it’s Prue, so I’m sure she’d find a way. However, I can see her learning that they do have another sister and deciding to keep that sister safe by staying away from her. Prue knows that they lead dangerous lives, and that their youngest sister would be in danger if she knew them, and decides to spare her from that. Maybe she is just happy that one of the four sisters can live a normal life and decides to let it be.
Of course, she could have also found out about Paige very soon before her death and just not had time to confirm anything or to tell Piper and Phoebe. And then Paige would never know that Prue did in fact know about her and wanted to bring her into their family.
Or conversely, she could have witnessed Paige's birth or seen her as a child, maybe overhearing Sam and Patty talking about her. In that case, it would be really strange for Prue to keep it to herself. Maybe if she asked about it later on, Patty or Penny put a spell on her to make her forget. Or over time, she convinced herself that it wasn't true because she couldn't handle the idea of losing any more family than she already did.
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Post by imdb lives on on Oct 10, 2017 13:30:32 GMT -5
What if Piper had the evil baby from the chocolate
What if Prue was the one who survived and Piper died? How would Leo or Prue handle that?
What if it was grams on the dock that day and the girls powers were unbound at that point?
What if Phoebe had astral premonition that could hurt her
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Post by thesonandheir on Oct 11, 2017 14:16:46 GMT -5
What if Piper had the evil baby from the chocolate What if Prue was the one who survived and Piper died? How would Leo or Prue handle that? What if it was grams on the dock that day and the girls powers were unbound at that point? What if Phoebe had astral premonition that could hurt her |
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Post by thesonandheir on Oct 11, 2017 14:17:34 GMT -5
I think you should do a thread on the first one
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Post by cyma on Oct 11, 2017 15:16:05 GMT -5
201. What if the diner Patty worked at was their family diner?
With the demon vanquishing the family has done for generations, it makes sense for them to open a family business rather than excuses of family emergencies to leave work.
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Post by Elle Em on Oct 11, 2017 17:33:23 GMT -5
A family business makes so much sense. I don't know how the sisters were able to stand the stress of constantly having to leave/not even show up to work. Real bosses wouldn't put up with it, and it would completely ruin their professional image.
I thought before that instead of having Piper open up a club, which made no sense for her personality, she should have worked from season 2 on to own her own restaurant. She could start with a home-based catering company and build up to owning an actual restaurant over the years. I'm sure there would be times when a demon or warlock would come crashing in and ruin the food, or they'd be running late for a delivery because of a magical situation, but they'd be primarily at home and in charge of their own schedules.
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What a great idea that has gone into so much potential. 
