Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 28, 2007 22:20:44 GMT -5
Or maybe they needed direction? You know. Guidance. But isn't that what Leo was for? Did he abandon his job as the whitelighter to the Halliwells for his other charges and then for his sons? I can't really remember Leo giving the girls guidance a lot. I mean, I do remember they made a whole big stink about him not being around in "Oh My Goddess". But the last time I remember him really giving pep talks and being there for them was when Phoebe admitted that she didn't vanquish Cole. Even then he wasn't a shoulder to lean on. Well, he did do the job for them before they vanquished the Titans. Other than that, he really was no longer their guide as he was supposed to be--he was their magical doctor/taxi cab. And I think that's because once the Titans murdered most of the Elders, Leo no longer had Elders to go and ask--the new Elders showed that during S7. I DO wish Chris had warned them about what the Titans were going to do BEFORE they killed most of the Elders! Yes, I know he probably hated them because he had to listen to his mother b*tch about them his whole life until she died, but the first batch was SOOO much better than the second! But there's no doubt that Piper and Phoebe needed plenty of guidance. Guidance that Prue gave them no matter if they liked it or not! |
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Post by foxfire on Aug 28, 2007 22:26:20 GMT -5
Hm. I think the Elders were always pains in the butt. Although, we never had a reason to really dislike them other than the Piper and Leo relationship thing early on. However, I think they just needed proof that it was going to work. Of course then they got massacred. But whatever.
It's interesting to note that Paige tried to give guidance to her sisters as well but none listened. I can't imagine how many times Paige has given Phoebe advice on something and she hasn't listened. At least Piper tries.
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2007 8:40:23 GMT -5
Phoebe (and Alyssa) always looked at Paige as the baby and never gave her the respect she deserved as both half-whitelighter and a social worker. Of course, without Prue around to keep her in line, Phoebe was going to do things her way and wasn't about to listen to anyone!
And Piper, as the new big sister, wasn't about to listen to anyone either. And because she never seemed to accept Paige as a sister, only seemed to tolerater her as a substitute for her best friend, her big sister, in the Power of Three (during Forever Charmed, it was always "I have to save Phoebe", never "I have to save Phoebe and Paige" or "I have to save Paige"), she never listened to her advice, either.
Without Prue, they were lost.
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Post by kutei on Aug 29, 2007 10:29:01 GMT -5
hey is this really prue from charmed
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 29, 2007 12:07:44 GMT -5
Yep. Very much so!
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Post by Marqelle on Sept 9, 2007 17:40:51 GMT -5
I don't know.I never really liked Prue...she was always a stiff...never relaxed, and she never wanted any one else to relax, it was always work...plus the real reason she got killed off the show doesn't help anyone like her better either...Piper did better as an older sister I think...Prue was okay sometimes, but most of the time she was a realy B****
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Post by Assassin Witch on Sept 9, 2007 22:42:38 GMT -5
I don't know.I never really liked Prue...she was always a stiff...never relaxed, and she never wanted any one else to relax, it was always work...plus the real reason she got killed off the show doesn't help anyone like her better either...Piper did better as an older sister I think...Prue was okay sometimes, but most of the time she was a realy B**** How does the behind-the-scenes affect the characters? *scratches head* Never relaxed nor did she want others to relax? Are we watching the same show? |
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Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 10, 2007 14:28:14 GMT -5
I'm with you, AW. It sounds like he was watching a totally different show.
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Post by danielle213 on Sept 10, 2007 23:45:22 GMT -5
Phoebe (and Alyssa) always looked at Paige as the baby and never gave her the respect she deserved as both half-whitelighter and a social worker. Of course, without Prue around to keep her in line, Phoebe was going to do things her way and wasn't about to listen to anyone! And Piper, as the new big sister, wasn't about to listen to anyone either. And because she never seemed to accept Paige as a sister, only seemed to tolerater her as a substitute for her best friend, her big sister, in the Power of Three (during Forever Charmed, it was always "I have to save Phoebe", never "I have to save Phoebe and Paige" or "I have to save Paige"), she never listened to her advice, either. Without Prue, they were lost. I ALWAYS LOVED PRUE BUT I WOULDNT SAY THEY WERE "LOST"... THEY WERENT THAT LOST SINCE THEY DID SEEM TO VANQUISH THE SOURCE UMM 3 TIMES ... AND MANAGED SAVING THE WORLD EVERY WEEK FOR YEARS AFTER HER DEATH. |
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Post by ljones on Sept 11, 2007 17:24:10 GMT -5
Saved the world every week following Prue's death? How? I got the impression that they had saved the world at least two or three times during the series' eight year run.
And just because they had managed to defeat the Source . . . "three" times, does not mean they were better witches following Prue's death. If anything, they made bigger mistakes after Prue had died.
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Post by danielle213 on Sept 11, 2007 21:38:37 GMT -5
Keeping the Book Of Shadows from every demon that came after it or helping whatever magical creature that came calling is in some way SAVING THE WORLD because if a demon were to get thier hands on it then all hell would break loose on earth for sure, if they didnt save each muse, fairy, leprechaun etc and letting a demon kill them would also tip the scale of good and evil in some kind of way.
More mistakes after Prue? hhmm they did something Prue didnt do. KILL THE SOURCE... 3X NO LESS... and nobody said they were better witches. Ofcourse they made mistakes, but so did Prue. Like I said. I love Prue. She was a great leader and even better sister, but i'm also going to give credit where credit is due.
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Post by ashiix22 on Sept 15, 2007 1:38:31 GMT -5
prue is so beautiful !! she is my favourite and showed such strong and powerful repect to others and her sisters.
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Elder
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Post by Elder on Oct 28, 2007 8:40:23 GMT -5
This message is written on October 28, 2007
If she were alive (and real) today would be Prue's 37th birthday.
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Post by ArchAngel on Oct 28, 2007 12:07:16 GMT -5
I don't know.I never really liked Prue...she was always a stiff...never relaxed, and she never wanted any one else to relax, it was always work...plus the real reason she got killed off the show doesn't help anyone like her better either...Piper did better as an older sister I think...Prue was okay sometimes, but most of the time she was a realy B**** The reason why she died wasshe was trying to save an innocent by pushing him out of the way resulting going head first through a wall resulting in severe head trauma (blood coming out of back of head,nose,mouth,and ear) which would be fatal in 30 seconds and Second Time Around it took about a minute for Phoebe and Leo to realize they were betrayed and another minute to Orb back home (not a math genius, but that meant Prue was dead for 1 minute and 30 second by the time Leo and Phoebe made it back (Since Piper went full body through the wall she was critically Injured and maybe had 2 minutes before she bled to death) If you are talking about the Hollywood Gossip then that is all B.S. as the show was originally only for 3 years, WB offered an extention but Shannen didn't want to sign it, everyone was upset that she wanted to leave and even feared the show couldn't go on without her playing Prue as the Show was mainly about Sisters that hapen to be witches with Prue as the leader, but hey...They did fine,didn't they? And Shannen never dissed the show as she was a private/silent investor in show doing as so much as to help fund the reshoot with Alyssa as Phoebe when Lori Rom bailed after 3 episodes of Shooting, and She was and still is collecting kickbacks and dividends from Charmed and even watched the show with Rose in it when she had the chance and she did make up with Holly and Alyssa and Aron over hurt feelings of her "abandoning them" but all these facts don't sell Tabloids...do they? Alyssa and Shannen also reached an understanding on their "personal matter" that Alyssa thought was the reason why Shannen was "abandoning the show cause of her" as well but that doesn't sell Tabloids nor does the fact that they are still friends though Shannen has admitted she is still uncomfortable around Alyssa on Howard Stern so while they are still friends she kinda avoids Alyssa and would be nervous being alone with her. People that really want to look for "something" in the old Charmed Episodes during the "Spiffy" according to the Tabloids...Watch scenes where Alyssa and Shannen are together and when Alyssa gets too close Shannen is either trying to inch away or looks like shes about to dart or fall backwards...lol |
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Post by ljones on Oct 29, 2007 15:07:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I really find it hard to believe that keeping the Warren Book of Shadows out of demonic hands saves the world in some way. That's like saying that without the Charmed Ones, the magical world would be overwhelmed by demons. Which is also nonsense, in my opinion. After all, the magical world managed to do just fine before the Halliwells became the Charmed Ones in the fall of 1998.
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Post by vandergraafk on Oct 31, 2007 18:24:28 GMT -5
I invite everyone to read James Reese's two volume collection Book of Shadows/Book of Spirits. In the latter book, the protagonist witch's book is left in the hands of a non-witch and is almost lost to a band of Negro hunting rascists in antebellum Richmond. Indeed, as the protagonist finally returns to St. Augustine from Richmond via New York and Baltimore, the books of shadows that she has copied or been given from a bevy of witches in New York are rather casually dispatched by trunk across the seas and via stage mail.
Again, looked at in terms of Charmedverse, the writers clearly indicate repeatedly that losing the Warren Book of Shadows would have been a disaster to the world. That's why demons coveted it so much. Accept it or reject it, but why apply a general understanding of witchcraft to a show that barely touches on anything Wiccan?
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Post by ljones on Nov 1, 2007 17:37:50 GMT -5
I don't think that African-Americans have referred to themselves as "Negroes" since the late 1960s.
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Post by vandergraafk on Nov 1, 2007 19:12:31 GMT -5
I used the vernacular of the book which is set in the 1830s. That's the phrase that's used to describe the thugs who kill a witch practitioner who happens to be a former slave horribly disfigured in a fire at a theatre where her slave-owner sent her back into the burning building to rescue one of his loved ones after she had already escaped to safety.
But my real question is why you focus so much on shadow over substance. It's beyond me and probably beyond just about everyone on this forum.
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Post by Book of Shadows 24 on Jan 6, 2008 19:59:28 GMT -5
They were probably trying to get a target audience, specifically more than a certain type of audience . . . they probably wanted to not delve so much into the WHY . . . it makes sense to me.
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Post by ljones on Jan 10, 2008 14:34:48 GMT -5
I understand that was the phrase used in the book, but you weren't quoting from the book.
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