Esmeralda
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 7, 2011 9:54:51 GMT -5
Much as I love discussing my own favorite season (and nothing that has been discussed has changed my mind about that - specifically enjoying both Charmed_boy's
and hawkbrother's last post - both will be blessed for those), it's August.
Time to move on to Season Three?
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Post by SimplyAretha on Aug 7, 2011 12:35:24 GMT -5
It sure is time to move on to season 3. I'm almost done re-watching the season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 12:08:12 GMT -5
I've already discussed how I felt about P3 elsewhere.
Now, I want to address something Obscurus Lupa brought up in her Season Two review, Prue the photographer.
This whole Prue the photographer thing just seemed to come right out of left field. Nowhere in Season One does Prue express the slightest interest in the field. Suddenly, we're supposed to believe that this is what she wanted to be all along!?
And notice how they just say that Prue worked at the museum and Buckland's "just to make ends meet" , like it was no different than being a cashier at McDonald's. RUBBISH! Prue was an expert in her field at both those jobs, cataloging exhibits and such. It takes years to reach such a position. This is not something you do to "make ends meet", this is a career!
Who did they think they were fooling here?
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Post by adzpower on Oct 10, 2015 17:14:00 GMT -5
It's the same kind of thing they did with Paige's art, she loved drawing and painting in season 4 and then from season 5 it had all completely vanished with no explanation! Much like Prue's photography came out of nowhere. My guess is Shannen had some kind of passion for photography and wanted it included in the show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2015 17:47:24 GMT -5
Good an explanation as any.
I didn't have an issue with Prue wanting to chart a new direction, however, it would have been nice if they even indicated that Prue had been interested in photography.
And not treated her job at Buckland's like it was just like working the cash register at McDonald's.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 11, 2015 2:45:38 GMT -5
Well Prue only worked at Buckland's to keep the house really so what do you expect then.
But yeah it would've been nice how they indicated Prue's love of photography beforehand like they did Piper helping Grams with her potion whilst she worked at the bank via flashback through commenting on how magazine photo's were done for e.g what style and lenses were used there which Prue could've known about and Phoebe commented on citing her college course whatever or Prue finding the camera her past life used a lot earlier in the attic than she did like when the sisters were sorting out all the toys season 1 time although I do understand the writers probably didn't about Prue and photography until a year later then.
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Post by sol on Oct 11, 2015 15:39:05 GMT -5
In Pardon My Past- an episode that I dont' like so much- Prue discovered that she has been a photographer
Give me A Sign:
Phoebe: You know, all I’m saying is that how many women professional photographers do you know?
Prue: I know, and that’s a totally fair question, one that I’ve been wrestling with a lot lately, like (sigh) — ever since I quit my job.
Piper: Prue, you dreamt of winning the Pulitzer in photography back in college! You never wanted to work in a museum, or at the auction house. That’s something you did for us, so we could keep the house. So now, it is your turn to follow your dreams.
Phoebe: Hey! Maybe finding out you were a photographer in your last life is some kind of sign.
Then, the explanation is simple: Prue always dreamed to work as a photographer but, after finishing college,she took on a job at the museum to have a stable income
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 17:16:43 GMT -5
Yes, but Prue wasn't just answering phones at Buckland's.
Remember how much she knew when Rex first interviewed her in I've Got You Under My Skin. Or how she spotted the fake painting later in the episode, when Rex tested her. To have this much knowledge takes years of experience. This wasn't just something she was doing to make ends meet, this was a career.
And note in that same season, there was not one indication that Prue had any interest in photography, not one.
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Post by sol on Oct 12, 2015 3:32:46 GMT -5
When Charmed started Prue was 28 years old: Piper said that Prue started working right after college, it's likely that she had a degree in art history, that she was hired as a junior at the museum and that in six years, her career progressed
Prue was tired of her job, career or not, she wished something new, a person can have a prestigious job and still a strong need of a change
Prue's character became more headstrong as time passes, the 22 years old Prue didn't have the courage or the opportunity to pursue her dreams, seven years later the situation had changed, Prue has changes and the memory of her past life was important for her decison
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Post by thepowerofnicki on Nov 7, 2015 17:03:20 GMT -5
Tim is right. This is one of my annoyances with Charmed, how they over-simplified things. Could Prue have not loved her previous field of work and also love photography? But no, they decided to make it sound like she was sacrificing herself. It's so one-dimensional, she can only like one thing at a time. How was working at the museum paying the bills? She said when she quit it was lousy pay. Also who goes and gets a BA in Art History for job security? Working at the museum like Tim said would have taken years of hard work just to get her foot in the door. It's obvious at 28 she was still in a junior position, albeit while continuing to climb the ladder. The same with Buckland's. No one said that Prue could not have used a career change, it was time for her. Prue should have looked to photography as a path that she wants to explore, not as something she has been destined to do, while her previous career path was just for the bills. Both of Prue's career paths were not something easy to get into. It felt so contrived.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 19:06:48 GMT -5
Yeah, that whole photography thing seemed so tacked on.
My issue was not with Prue changing careers, a lot of people do that, but how it was handled. That whole Prue worked at the museum and then at Buckland's just to "make ends meet" made no sense to me. They made it sound no different than if she had been a cashier at McDonald's, just making money to pay the bills until her "real" career could start.
Prue was an expert in her field. Remember how should could point out fake paintings and such. This is not something you do just to pay the bills, rather it would have taken Prue years to reach such a position in the field. No, she did not have that job just to make money, she had it because that was her chosen field.
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Post by adzpower on Nov 7, 2015 19:09:15 GMT -5
I never understood why she didn't just keep her high paying job at Bucklands and keep the photography as a hobby on the side to do as fun.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 7, 2015 19:24:25 GMT -5
I never understood why she didn't just keep her high paying job at Bucklands and keep the photography as a hobby on the side to do as fun. She couldn't stay at Buckland's when she knew that they were cheating. Her own standards were too high. If only she had been the ones who lived - the Charmed Ones' standards might have also stayed that high...
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Post by adzpower on Nov 8, 2015 5:16:05 GMT -5
I never understood why she didn't just keep her high paying job at Bucklands and keep the photography as a hobby on the side to do as fun. She couldn't stay at Buckland's when she knew that they were cheating. Her own standards were too high. If only she had been the ones who lived - the Charmed Ones' standards might have also stayed that high... I actually had completely forgotten that bucklands had started lying about authenticity, thanks for reminding me! That does explain why she left indeed.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 8, 2015 5:57:15 GMT -5
She couldn't stay at Buckland's when she knew that they were cheating. Her own standards were too high. If only she had been the ones who lived - the Charmed Ones' standards might have also stayed that high... Exactly. Prue prided herself on her job which she really liked otherwise she wouldn't have studied antiques originally believing you should get what you paid for which wasn't the case with the the Monet. Prue couldn't sell it knowing it was fake 'cause that would be conning someone out of their money which was a crime. As Esmeralda said Prue's standards were too high even though she loved working at Bucklands. But what happened to Piper made Prue evaluate her own life and the fact she didn't like the direction Bucklands was going at the time not loving her job as she once did and so decided to leave instead of tell Caldwell the painting was fake which could've prevented the company be caught and blackened by reputation if that had future wise and having people go to prison which I never understood myself obviously.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 8, 2015 8:49:38 GMT -5
She couldn't stay at Buckland's when she knew that they were cheating. Her own standards were too high. If only she had been the ones who lived - the Charmed Ones' standards might have also stayed that high... I actually had completely forgotten that bucklands had started lying about authenticity, thanks for reminding me! That does explain why she left indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2015 23:12:57 GMT -5
I suppose a lot of people take on more traditional, steady-paying careers for security rather than trying to make it in a more cut-throat, unsettled industry such as photography. Grams basically told Prue wasn't going to study to become a photojournalist on the East Coast, so I guess Prue thought doing Art History was her next best option as she was basically made to be the head of the family, just as Piper was originally working in a bank, when she really wanted to be a chef. However, in 'Pre-Witched' Grams seemed to be encouraging Piper to follow her real passion, so it seems out of character that she wouldn't have let Prue do they same thing. Couldn't Prue have pursued photography in San Fran?
So, I so agree that her interest in photography was shoe-horned in.
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Post by thenymphxmuse on Aug 9, 2020 0:25:50 GMT -5
I felt that this season was good because it was quite "simple". The girls weren't too inexperienced as they were in season 1, yet they still had things to learn. It was a maturing season, kinda like season 5, but without the exaggeration of the Underworld's presence - it had more real life presence like in Ex Libris or Animal Pragmatism. That's something I like. I hated the fact that they exaggerated the use of the Underworld. Plus, for me in this season the girls were at their best in terms of aspect: Piper was simply perfect in That Old Black Magic, Phoebe when she was Present Phoebe in Pardon My Past, and Prue in the beginning of That Old Black Magic. She was also very cute in the end of Apocalypse Not, and, she looked like Rene (Mallrats) in the beginning of She's A Man Baby, A Man. In season 1, Prue was still very thin, with short hair and very serious, Piper was still with that hair covering the forehead (fringe) and Phoebe, she was cute, but a bit not so cute in the beginning. In season 3, they all got a bit more fat, specially Phoebe, and Shannen started showing signs on pre-ageing. I liked the fact that Phoebe was still fun - she became BORING when Cole came along. I liked the drama between Dan and Leo lol, and I liked the fact that Prue was single and getting nice guys like Jack and Bane - which didn't happen much in season 3. I’m not quite sure what the weight of any sister is indicative of the season’s quality. You make some great points but the actresses are all still thin. If anything Shannen becomes more toned and loses cellulite and Alyssa is extremely thin by the ending. But each is to there own I guess.
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Post by stratego on Aug 11, 2020 14:23:47 GMT -5
Yeah, that whole photography thing seemed so tacked on. My issue was not with Prue changing careers, a lot of people do that, but how it was handled. That whole Prue worked at the museum and then at Buckland's just to "make ends meet" made no sense to me. They made it sound no different than if she had been a cashier at McDonald's, just making money to pay the bills until her "real" career could start. Prue was an expert in her field. Remember how should could point out fake paintings and such. This is not something you do just to pay the bills, rather it would have taken Prue years to reach such a position in the field. No, she did not have that job just to make money, she had it because that was her chosen field. I agree with you 100%. Maybe working at an auction house wasn't her dream job, but art and its history was clearly her passion. Now photography could also have been an interest of hers, but it would've made more sense as a hobby. In the end, they hardly did anything with it anyway.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Aug 13, 2020 13:38:18 GMT -5
I JUST started my S2 rewatch since Amazon had the blu ray on sale for $30 couple weeks ago.
On Morality Bites so...first things first...the Season premiere was a great premise and would've made a better 100th episode than the 100th episode.
With Morality Bites..im surprised it didnt spawn a lot of fanfiction. Its a future where Phoebe dies so...Paige couldve reconstituted PO3 and just how Prues death gave them an array of new story material, everything that happened in the original future also gives so much story material. But either way, it shows that no matter what, one of the sisters was always gonna die. No outrunning destiny there.
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