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Post by SimplyAretha on Aug 7, 2011 21:58:28 GMT -5
We know why Shannon was fired but lets look at this from a actual Charmed Universe explenation.
I think it was Prue's pride that ultimately killed her. She was a react first think later type of witch. It was Prue who chased Shaqs into the street and got them exposed. It was Prue who used her power on a innocent that cause her to get upset and shoot Piper.
We know from the seven deadly sins episode that Prue's sin was pride. Even with her struggle to accept that death wasn't the enemy. Was it ultimately Prue's pride that got her killed?
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Post by CharmedFaith on Aug 7, 2011 22:21:50 GMT -5
I would say yes. Since by season3 she had fully come to accept and embrace her witch heritage. If she hadnt felt like it was her duty to save every innocent then she probably couldve thought more rationally about going after Shax immediatly.
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 8, 2011 6:50:26 GMT -5
Completely. By S3, Prue became so influenced by pride that she stopped thinking. Her mistakes in All Hell Breaks Loose were stupid and they weren't the kind of mistakes she would of made two years prior. In some ways, she was a lot like Patty, who I think also felt it was her duty to save the innocent from the magical world, which in turn, also got her killed.
The sisters were too young to learn from the mistakes that Patty made, as she died when they were only children. But I think Piper and Phoebe learnt from Prue's mistakes, something they also tried to teach Paige, who was alot more like Patty and Prue then her sisters.
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Post by Jad on Aug 8, 2011 15:58:56 GMT -5
The short answer is, well, duh....
It did appear that Prue was heading for her swan song, and I'd have to take Shannen for an idiot if she wasn't onboard with it. I get the sense that the summer negotiations weren't going anywhere between Doherty and Kern when she went to Canada to do that TV movie with Julian. It was like Kern and Doherty couldn't get it together on how to do Prue's swan song and Kern broke of the talking by firing her.
I'm not sure if was renegotiating her contract or artist differences or a combination of the two, but I'm pretty sure that Alyssa had nothing to do with it. THe rift between Shannen and Alyssa sounds more like rumors than fact. Even if they didn't get along personally, they still worked together professionally. To blame the firing of Shannen on her rift with Alyssa is missing it in my opinion.
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Post by CharmedFaith on Aug 8, 2011 17:00:39 GMT -5
Till this day I do not beleive that AHBL or Prues pride in general was created in some safe way to get rid of Shannen. Prue is still alive in the script, just unconcious. They didnt plan on killing the character. The doctor, they planned on killing. He is dead in the script. This was meant as a very good cliff hanger that they lucked into. You dont let someone direct a finale only to fire them.
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Post by ljones on Aug 10, 2011 0:23:04 GMT -5
Really? How? I got the impression that Piper and Phoebe had adopted Prue's penchant for acting first and thinking later . . . and allowing their pride to get in the way of their common sense.
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Post by Astral Echo on Aug 10, 2011 6:06:01 GMT -5
Really? They did naff all in the later seasons that put themselves in harms way! If it didn't benefit them, they weren't really interested in the whole saving innocents lark.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 10, 2011 7:41:34 GMT -5
I agree. I didn't see any of Prue's pride in her sisters at all. They had a lot of faults but pride wasn't one of them.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Aug 12, 2011 14:32:18 GMT -5
Prue's pride might have gotten her killed but this pride saved many innocents. With accepting Prue could have known to die young - like their mother - and the mistake of hunting Shax down in the public was made by Prue AND Piper, I think. They had their Innocent, the Doctor, in mind and therefore wanted to kill Shax before there was more damage. Unfortunately, there was a TV set and busted!! Again, my question, if the Cleaners were observing the sisters from the start, where in hell were they here? On holidays??
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Post by Jad on Aug 12, 2011 14:50:04 GMT -5
The Cleaners didn't exist yet, They didn't exist till that well written season, six. I liked Chris but the story arc stunk. Mark one up for continuity... ;D
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Dec 13, 2019 7:51:56 GMT -5
I believe from a Charmed standpoint of view in season 6 the reason the Cleaners weren't around season 4 time when the sisters got exposed at the end was because.
1. They weren't needed seeing how the sisters got Cole to get Tempus the demon to reverse time going through the Source which fixed the exposure risk ultimately being how the Cleaners only intervened when exposed magic couldn't be fixed by the concerned party themselves beforehand leaving no alternate end as in the case with Wyatt and the dragon then.
2. One of the Charmed Ones was meant to die that day whichever sister it was who would subsequently be replaced by Paige although the writers didn't know or hadn't thought her up by then which happened with Piper first when she was shot then Prue second the day time spun back which concerning the conversation she had with death at the end of 'Death Takes A Halliwell' may well have cemented that unknowingly.
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