PAIGE ACTUALLY NOT A HALF-WITCH?

[cyma]

Something interesting an IMDB user pointed out that just might make Paige actually be a half-whitelighter and half-mortal instead of a half-witch because of the following reasons:

• Whitelighters also possess basic powers of spell casting, potion-making and scrying.
  
  

• All the powers Paige has displayed so far and gained in the five years are whitelighter/Elder ones: orbing, TK orbing, sensing, healing, speaking in a different language, glamor, etc.

• Paige being able to cast PO3 spell has to do with her being born from the same mother as the Charmed Ones rather than being a witch. And seeing that Penny and Patty could perform PO3 spells with Piper and they weren’t even her sisters, I could buy that Paige already being magical and having spellcasting abilities from her whitelighter side was able to gain access to PO3 because she was also a sister to the Charmed Ones.

Now the things which aren’t making me completely be convinced by the Paige-actually-isn't-a-half-witch-theory is:

• All whitelighters have the exact same powers. They don't even advance or evolve. They’ll stay the same until the whitelighter does something extraordinary and becomes an Elder, then does he get new powers and upgraded powers. Or as seen in Witches in Tights, the previous Elder transfer his powers or something.

 

• Sam was only a whitelighter. And if all whitelighters have same powers which don’t evolve, how in the heck did Paige get sensing powers which includes sensing evil and telekentic orbing something which are seemingly Elder powers? If Paige is supposed to be a half-whitelighter and half-mortal only, then how did she gain access to Elder powers when her father was a whitelighter and she didn’t perform some extraordinary act of good nor did an Elder transfer his or her powers to her?
  
  
  If there's an explanation for that, then I just might be convinced Paige is actually half mortal and not half-witch. If not then, it's obviously half-witch and half-whitelighter.  But if Paige turns out to be half-mortal, then that means the first half-whitelighter and half-witch would actually be Wyatt. And the first half-Elder and half-witch would be Chris. Three kinds of different

[Esmeralda]

What you're forgetting is that Paige is the first of her kind - a living whitelighter. You can't compare her and her children with any other whitelighter because they are dead, so of course they won't evolve, while Paige and her children are living and a new breed, the reason she constantly evolved. She's a living whitelighter who can cast spells and make potions because she's also a Charmed One - a descendant of Melinda Warren who can move things with her mind. But she orbs them, she doesn't push them like Prue and Chris do.

Chris is a witch with whitelighter powers, the true reason why he can't heal while Paige can.

Wyatt is Twice-Blessed whatever the heck that means. Like Paige, you can't compare him with anyone else.

At that site we were discussing the difference between Chris' TK (a witch power) and Paige's TK (a whitelighter power) and here's what I said (bolded added)

Chris was definitely more witch than Paige. But unlike Paige, Chris has a Charmed One for a mother. That's why Paige's "witch power" was actually a whitelighter power, while Chris' witch power was just that, a witch power. Paige was a whitelighter who could cast spells and make potions while Chris was a witch with whitelighter powers.

I think that's the difference - Sam's "whitelighterness" trumps Patty's "witchness", but Piper's "CharmedOnesness" trumps Leo's "whitelighterness" - which means that Paige's "whitelighterness" (and remember, no matter her parents, *SHE'S* just as much whitelighter as Leo, except she's a living whitelighter - Charmed's worst mistake since it meant you no longer had to earn your wings - she should've been just like her half-sisters - pure witch with no whitelighter powers), Paige's "whitelighterness" trumps Henry's "mortalness" (the way Patty's (and all Warren women...) trumps Victor's "mortalness" making the first set of Charmed Ones full witches and not half-witches or quarter-witches or eighth-witches -if they *were* only quarter-witch and not that powerful, this whole theory wouldn't make sense. It's the fact that the first set of Charmed Ones were full witches and the most powerful witches ever despite having Victor for a father which says there is no such thing as halves) , meaning that their kids would also be living whitelighters who could cast spells and make potions.

There is no such thing as half-whitelighters or witchlighters (words never used on the show but loved by fans even if they're misnomers) - there are witches who have whitelighter powers (Chris, Prudence Melinda and their children no matter who they marry) and there are whitelighters who can cast spells and make potions (Paige and her children and their children no matter who they marry).

So if your mother is a Charmed One, you're the same as her no matter what your father is.

If your father is a whitelighter and your mother's a witch, but not a Charmed One, you are a living whitelighter who can cast spells and make potions no matter what your mother is.

If your mother is a witch and your father isn't a whitelighter, you're a full witch.

Now what happens if the father is a witch - we never had that situation, so we don't know. My guess (and emphasis on guess - the previous are facts based on the show):

If your father is a witch (like if Chris had kids - remember, he's a witch with whitelighter powers - he's not a whitelighter) and your mother is a whitelighter, you are a whitelighter with witch powers.

If your father is a witch and your mother's mortal, you're a witch. (I don't think Chris' children would have whitelighter powers, since he's just a witch who isn't Charmed, not a whitelighter)

Now with Wyatt as Twice-Blessed (whatever that means since we were never truly shown), I have a hunch if he had kids he would trump whatever his wife is, and his kids would also be Twice-Blessed (whatever that means).

I don't believe it I think I've made sense out of one of the hugest inconsistencies on the show, all thanks to another member for pointing out that Paige is a living whitelighter, not a witch.

[Chrisaholic]

Oh great, I've got now a headache. Of these "technical" things I haven't even thought about yet since it was a given thing, partly. Never mind!

[Astral Vision]

Es, according to your hypothesis, as a "witch with whitelighter powers", Chris cannot be fatally injured by the poison of a darklighter arrow, right? Yet in My Three Witches, Chris is definitely affected by one when the demon he's using to teach the sisters a lesson turns on him.

[Esmeralda]

OOPS!!! You're definitely right about that one. There goes another theory out the window!!!

But even if Chris *is* a whitelighter - Paige still *isn't* a witch!

[iamthesun]

hmm I believe she is half witch. So I guess she's not technically one, but in a way she is, if that makes sense.

[Chrisaholic]

If the same analysis goes for Wyatt as for her, then she'd be half witch half whitelighter. But later she might have become a full whitelighter with healing and so on. ..... I'm completely clueless here.

[universalcharmed]

If Paige is only Half witch so would Phoebe, Prue and Piper. Victor is human/Mortal. Paige is both a full whitelighter and full Witch.

[sol]

I can't agree with the "living whitelighter" definition: the whitelighters were dead, they were resurrected so they are living being

Paige is a witch - not half witch - with whitelighter powers and also Wyatt and Chris are witch with whitelighter powers
Twice Blessed is not a title or a new kind, it's only a blessing in a quatrain, so Wyatt is a normal witch, son of a Charmed One, born in a magic day that made louder his powers

Paige seems to be more powerfull than Chris becuase she is a Charmed One, as Wyatt because of the magic day, that made louder her powers

[adzpower]

Its all very confusing. Paige and Chris are suppsoedly half-witch/half-whitelighter. But an argument can be made to say that they were just witches with whitelighter powers, but then why were the other sisters counted as full witches? And if Paige and Chris were full witches, then why were they both affected by darklighter arrows?

[universalcharmed]

Jul 6, 2017 0:08:26 GMT -5 sol said:

I can't agree with the "living whitelighter" definition: the whitelighters were dead, they were resurrected so they are living being

Paige is a witch - not half witch - with whitelighter powers and also Wyatt and Chris are witch with whitelighter powers
Twice Blessed is not a title or a new kind, it's only a blessing in a quatrain, so Wyatt is a normal witch, son of a Charmed One, born in a magic day that made louder his powers

Paige seems to be more powerfull than Chris becuase she is a Charmed One, as Wyatt because of the magic day, that made louder her powers

The Sisters are what gives power to the power of 3. Paige being powerful has nothing to do with being charmed. Rather she was charmed or not her power strength would remain the same. The only thing that would change would be she wouldn't be able to perform a spell that took the power of the collective 3 sisters. 

There is a big misconception that the sisters are powerful because they are charmed ones but that isn't actually true. The power of 3 is made up of each sister individual power coming together to create a more powerful source of power. The only time the sisters actually use the power of 3 is when they need a big spell to defeat a demon. 


adzpower

Paige and Chris are whitelighters not "half" whitelighters but "also" whitelighter. Thus Darklighter arrows would affect them. being witches also doesn't nullify the affect of a Darklighters Arrow. She is full blown both Witch and Whitelighter. She has all the abilities of a whitelighter and all the abilities as a witch. Paige automactically attracted charges without the elders help. She is just as much of a whitelighter as Leo was.

[adzpower]

I disagree. Its stated quite regularly that they are the most powerful good witches of all time, singular witches, not just when working together as a unit. Together they have access to the power of three, but even alone they were forces to be reckoned with. And it was said that they were powerful BECAUSE they were Charmed Ones. They had higher resistances and stronger individual magic. Like when Phoebe temporarily defeated Shax, it wasn't strong enough to vanquish him, it required the power of three, but just her alone was able to repel him with the spell. A sign that individually they are stronger than your average witch.

I do agree with you on the whitelighter thing though, it makes sense, they weren't half and half as the show liked to constantly state, but rather both.

[universalcharmed]

Jul 13, 2017 5:12:27 GMT -5 adzpower said:

I disagree. Its stated quite regularly that they are the most powerful good witches of all time, singular witches, not just when working together as a unit. Together they have access to the power of three, but even alone they were forces to be reckoned with. And it was said that they were powerful BECAUSE they were Charmed Ones. They had higher resistances and stronger individual magic. Like when Phoebe temporarily defeated Shax, it wasn't strong enough to vanquish him, it required the power of three, but just her alone was able to repel him with the spell. A sign that individually they are stronger than your average witch.

I do agree with you on the whitelighter thing though, it makes sense, they weren't half and half as the show liked to constantly state, but rather both.

It is stated and shown each sister had their powers before becoming the charmed ones. Their mother and Grams stripped them of their abilities and they could only get it back once they were under the chandler together. 

Once Prue died Phoebe and Piper still retained their abilities and they weren't charmed anymore. They didn't become charmed again until Paige was with them under the chandler the Source, Patty and Elders clearly state this. Being Charmed isn't what makes them strong but rather being powerful witches is what makes the power of 3 strong. Whenever they aren't in unity the power of 3 becomes weakened. 

If their power came from them being charmed they would be able to tap into that power even if one of them dies. However that clearly isn't the case. The power of three can only be accessed when all 3 are together. They are what makes the power of 3 not the other way around. How many times have the sisters complained about each other moving away because they might need a power of 3 spell.