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Post by cyma on Feb 16, 2014 3:08:24 GMT -5
"Aren't I half whitelighter? I mean, couldn't I use my half to offset his half?" -Paige Matthews, Charmed Again Part 2Can someone please make sense of Paige's line in Charmed Again Part 2 referring to healing Cole? 
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Post by Astral Vision on Feb 16, 2014 4:47:58 GMT -5
That line has never made the slightest bit of sense to me. I don't think there's supposed to be any logical sense behind as it's just a cop-out line. Besides, Paige is still pretty out of it when she says that, considering right afterwards she has to ask whether what she did was a good thing or not.
I think the better question would be: How does it even work?
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Post by iamthesun on Feb 16, 2014 6:08:54 GMT -5
Leo could only heal half of Cole, so Paige healed the rest..the wording is confusing, but I guess that's the general idea.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Feb 16, 2014 8:41:49 GMT -5
I think that was the idea, yet right at the beginning of Paige's journey it is quite confusing.  |
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Post by charmedhybrid on Jun 4, 2014 23:16:49 GMT -5
I think its bc paige was in the still in that neutr window of either being good or evil. So she was able to use that to their advantage of being able to heal cole's demonic side.
Another theory is that it might need to take more than one whitelighter to heal someone like cole. Kinda like in the episode Once in a Blue Moon it took a handful of of Elders to heal the whitelighter's wounds after being attacked.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 5, 2014 3:24:59 GMT -5
It was the idea but made as much sense as the word "witchlighter". How can they be part whitelighter when they were still alive? How can someone who's dead create a child? I hate halves - it's what so screwed up the show when suddenly having a whitelighter for a father was more important than having a witch for a mother.
ETA: Hehehehe! Just thought of something. If this was truly the case - that she could only use her whitelighter half to offset his demon half - doesn't this mean that Paige should've only been able to heal people who are halves and then only their magical half? So she shouldn't have been able to heal her sisters or Henry! Well, maybe she could heal her sisters since technically they're halves (half witch/half mortal), but most definitely not Henry who was pure mortal - pardon me, non-magical, since the sisters aren't immortal, so they're mortals, too.
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Jun 5, 2014 15:01:25 GMT -5
I don't know if this's true or not but could Paige have healed Cole's side maybe because she was alive and Leo wasn't as he was died which's why whitelighters couldn't heal half demons as they would've been alive also.
Personally i think there shouldn't have been half whitelighters but since there were they're powers should've only worked halfways since they were hybrids and not full ones meaning they couldn't heal without another whitelighter or orb over long distances either for example.
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Post by cyma on Jun 7, 2014 2:46:41 GMT -5
How can they be part whitelighter when they were still alive? How can someone who's dead create a child? Because they aren't dead. Whitelighters are previous dead mortals, but after their transformation into whitelighter, they're obviously not dead anymore. Because when they lose or are stripped of their powers, they become mortals, not ghosts. It's been mentioned in season 1 by Leo, happened to Leo in season 2 and in Season 4 also. And finally in Season 7 he goes from Elder to mortal. Whitelighters eat. They sleep. Even sleep with others. And probably use the bathroom too. Leo died, but instead of moving on Elders made him a whitelighter. Same thing happened with Sam. Twice unfortunately. First time he gave up and became a mortal, second time he’s still a whitelighter who gets drunk and pukes on Paige’s shoes. So yeah…whitelighters can get hangovers and drunk too. That’s pretty much means whitelighters and Elders are alive and capable of producing an offspring. The only downside seems to be unlike whitelighters, the offsprings aren’t immortal or self-healing. Or perhaps those can be acquired too, they just need to unlock it somehow like all the other powers? But since season 1, everything seems to point out that whitelighters are just another magical being and not dead. Just previously dead mortals. Take away their powers and their mortals again. |
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Post by cyma on Jun 7, 2014 3:54:06 GMT -5
Leo could only heal half of Cole, so Paige healed the rest..the wording is confusing, but I guess that's the general idea. I went over it again and the general idea itself doesn't make sense: Piper: Heal him.
Leo: You know that it's against the rules.
Phoebe: Leo, screw the rules. The Elders owe us.
Leo: Even if I could, I could only heal his human half and that… wouldn't be enough power to save him. (Leo kneels down too.)
Paige: Aren't I half whitelighter? I mean, couldn't I use my half to offset his half?
The reason Leo mentions he couldn’t fully heal Cole was because of him being part demon. He could only heal the human-half. And then Paige goes on and suggests since she’s a half-whitelighter, maybe she could heal the remaining part of him. And this is what doesn’t make sense. If whitelighters can’t heal demons, then Paige shouldn’t be able to heal Cole’s remaining part—his demonic half. It was proven in season 3 that when Leo tried to heal Cole fully, he couldn’t and was shocked and sent flying into the wall. Since Paige wasn’t sent flying into the path of a moving bus when she tried to heal his demonic half, I’m gonna go with the theory that half-whitelighters can indeed heal half-demons fully too. She possessed the sensing evil power, something which whitelighters did have but it was only specific to sensing darklighters. So Paige not being purely whitelighter has the same advantage with her healing abilities which are extended to include healing demonic hybrids too. This makes more sense then “I heal one half of a person and you heal the remaining evil demonic half of a person because I can’t heal that part because it's evil." |
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Post by Chrisaholic on Jun 13, 2014 14:19:31 GMT -5
Shoot, now I'm more confused than ever. |
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Post by universalcharmed on Jul 2, 2018 1:38:00 GMT -5
I simply look at it as since Paige's whitelighter side affects her witch side than her witch side should do the same to her whitleighter side. So what a Whitelighter can't heal she can as a witchlighter because her powers should/would have worked slightly different. The wording was confusing and as far as that context goes she probably was saying she she is also a hybrid can't she offset his hybrid nature.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 29, 2020 21:30:55 GMT -5
Witchlighters are probably more special than just simple whitelighters. Paige's witch-half must have helped in allowing her to heal Cole because she wasn't a full whitelighter, she's a witchlighter  Just like Wyatt and Chris. |
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 6, 2020 4:48:49 GMT -5
Witchlighters are probably more special than just simple whitelighters. Paige's witch-half must have helped in allowing her to heal Cole because she wasn't a full whitelighter, she's a witchlighter Just like Wyatt and Chris. Whitelighter healing power infused with magic. That’s how I thought of it. Paige could have healed Cole on her own but because her healing wasn’t yet active, Leo had to provide the healing power and combined with Paige allow it to flow through her. Leo provided the jumpstart. 😊 What’s confusing is Paige said her half (witch human half) would offset Leo’s half, but she meant really to say was “aren’t I half whitelighter? I mean, shouldn’t be able to heal Cole, being half witch and half whitelighter?” Then Leo would say they need to do it together because Paige can’t heal yet. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Mar 6, 2020 5:33:52 GMT -5
My opinion on this has changed. Since the emotional trigger for healing was love like Leo had for Piper or the familiar love he had for his charges Paige not knowing Cole when she first met Piper and Phoebe shouldn't have been able to help heal him because she didn't love Cole like she would've her adopted parents, other family members, friends and when she did Henry meaning what happened shouldn't have technically especially being new to her powers the same when Leo sorta healed Cole in 'Sleuthing With The Enemy' which only served as a plot point I.E. Phoebe discovering he was a demon of course.
With Piper, that's different because she generally loved Leo in his final season 1 episode 'Love Hurts'.
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Just like Wyatt and Chris.