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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 13:11:39 GMT -5
I don't remember her name being spelled at all in the show. If it was spelled either way in something canon fair enough, but I haven't seen the script or anything...otherwise, I don't see the big fuss. But really, pronouncing a 'y' like "ee" or "ih" when it's in the middle is hardly that unusual. Pyrrha, Nyla, Alycia, Alyssa or Lynette for example... none tend to be pronounced with an "eye" sound... or keeping it in the Charmed verse, the demon "Katya" pronounced "Kat-ee-a" not "Kat-eye-a" Letters are pronounced in so many different ways around the world, we have multiple ways of pronouncing certain letters just within English, there's no real "right or wrong" way. Look at Beta the avatar, or Meta the Titan. Both may look like the first syllables should rhyme with "vet" or "get", but both are in fact pronounced with "ay" sounds. They're not wrong, just different. I believe Kyra is Greek and almost always pronounced "ee". Whether that's canon for The Seer or not is questionable, but there's nothing incorrect about the name in and of itself. As Tim pointed out, "Kira" is more than likely the canon spelling of the name, and it also happens to be the most common spelling of the name. Look at the list of both real people and fictional characters who have the name, and most spell it as "Kira." It's only certain fans (including the comic writers) who, for whatever reason, insisted that it was "Kyra." No, the name "Kyra" technically isn't an incorrect spelling of "Kira," just as "Airwrecka" technically isn't an incorrect spelling of "Erica"... But, there's a very good reason why it's less common. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 16:13:00 GMT -5
You said it yourself, it's an Official guide. I would take any info in it more serious than I would anywhere else. Andrea Haag ran the CharmedOnes.com website, that the original Charmed Cafe was part of. While she didn't work on the show, she had insider information. Therefore, I would take whatever she said as accurate. Yes I said the companion is "official" merchandise... but so are the comics. Both are still fan creations, not creations of the actual Charmed crew or cast. I could start a site now and begin writing transcripts. Anyone could, many have...doesn't mean a thing. I could also say I have inside info, not saying this Andrea is lying, but I have no idea what the info she has is and evidence is something you can see or hear. What you just did for Kira, I could do for Kyra... watch: 1) It's Kyra in the comics- "official" merchandise. 2) It's Kyra on Charmed Wiki (no less valid than standard Wikipedia as anyone can edit it, so if one counts, they both count) 3) Her entry in Prescott Manor's BOS replica spells it Kyra. (They do lots of research making lots of Charmed replica merch). 4) www.charmedscripts.tv/witchness_protection.htm Here's a transcript that calls her Kyra. You see what I mean? Not one of these is canon... what I'm saying is, unless you're going by irrefutable canon, it easily works both ways. As I said, it could be Kira. Believe it or not, I'm not trying to convince you it isn't. But all I'm hearing is "this fanon source is better than that fanon source" and that just doesn't hold much weight for me either way. As Tim pointed out, "Kira" is more than likely the canon spelling of the name, and it also happens to be the most common spelling of the name. Look at the list of both real people and fictional characters who have the name, and most spell it as "Kira." It's only certain fans (including the comic writers) who, for whatever reason, insisted that it was "Kyra." Again, "this fanon source is better than this fanon source". Give me canon evidence and I'll accept whichever way it goes. Shannen is rarer than Shannon, yet Doherty spells it with an "e". I just find it interesting that the comic writer and some fans are being slammed for going off their opinions, when it appears to me that both sides of the argument are pretty much doing the same thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 17:21:02 GMT -5
Andrea had contact with the cast and crew. She helped arrange an interactive chat with Alyssa Milano in 1999 (a chat I took part in, BTW). I was part of the staff of her site (I did the Book Reviews). Trust me, Andrea was legit.
Forget the Charmed Wiki, they're full of rubbish. They can't tell canon from fanon. They think Mystery Girl has a name, when canon gives her no identity.
To me, it's Kira. I don't care what Shand says or writes. In the Rex and Hannah Chronicles, she is, and always will be, Kira.
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Post by cyma on Jul 22, 2015 14:30:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 17:06:09 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but these drawings sure don't look like the characters I remember.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 17:51:09 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but these drawings sure don't look like the characters I remember. No, they don't. Plus, Paige suddenly has her Season 5 hairstyle again, even though she ended the show looking like this. Of course, these panels also depict more of the comics' ruination of Cole. Thank goodness they aren't canon! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 17:56:22 GMT -5
Amen to that. What was done to Cole in Centennial Charmed is bad enough, because that was canon. Thankfully, Seven Year Witch fixed that.
Still one has to feel bad for Cole fans who do follow the comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 23:46:11 GMT -5
Amen to that. What was done to Cole in Centennial Charmed is bad enough, because that was canon. Thankfully, Seven Year Witch fixed that. Still one has to feel bad for Cole fans who do follow the comics. The comics make me glad that Cole was never brought back again in the last season. Even if Season 8 had different writers, his character would've still been inevitably ruined. Probably to glorify Mr. Cardboard, of course.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 23:50:12 GMT -5
Shand should have left Cole alone. He has plenty of other characters and material to draw from. Why he decided to do this to Cole baffles me to no end.
If Shand HAD to bring Cole back, why not treat the character with respect?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:00:05 GMT -5
Shand should have left Cole alone. He has plenty of other characters and material to draw from. Why he decided to do this to Cole baffles me to no end. If Shand HAD to bring Cole back, why not treat the character with respect? There must've been a fan demand for Cole's return, or something. People, be careful what you wish for! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:01:25 GMT -5
Because you just might get it. Of course, this is certainly not what they would want. Cole giving up his existence for Mr. Cardboard!?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 7:03:57 GMT -5
Anyone got the new issue yet? I don't usually receive mine until early the following week.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 23, 2015 8:06:46 GMT -5
I'll be getting mine tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 13:32:09 GMT -5
Cool, you'll probably get it before me then (unless I'm lucky with the post). Be interested to hear your thoughts. Avoided spoilers, but it sounds like this one is a big deal.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 23, 2015 14:59:29 GMT -5
Cool, you'll probably get it before me then (unless I'm lucky with the post). Be interested to hear your thoughts. Avoided spoilers, but it sounds like this one is a big deal. Well, reviewing without spoiling might be hard...but I'll certainly try. Maybe I'll just say if I liked it or didn't and save an actual review until more members have gotten their copy. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 23, 2015 16:30:24 GMT -5
I just saw this for the first time. Oh, CRAP!!!!!If Cole and/or Belthazor (still am not convinced that Pat Shand doesn't think that they're two separate beings and not one and the same) have taken over Coop, I'm going to SCREAM!!!! ESPECIALLY if Phoebe doesn't realize that this is her FIRST husband, not her SECOND (well, counting Whatshisname from the beginning of Season Eight, her THIRD) husband and neither does PJ, and if by the end of this season, we see a flashforward that shows that they all live sappily ever with that guy who we saw in the flashforward taking Phoebe to the hospital actually being COLE and not Coop, I'm REALLY going to scream just before I BURN all of my S10 issues! Yeah, I did something similar to that in one of my fanfics - but it was to show that Cole *WAS* Coop in disguise after the Elders turned him into a cupid after he sent Drake to Phoebe - that if he could teach her to truly love (rather than just obsess or lust) that he'd be freed to go to the afterlife. This is NOTHING like this, but it's *SO* typical of this Phole-shipper's fanfic, the reason why I haven't liked this season even half as much as S9. Now had Paul Ruditis keep me hating Coop during S9 as much as I did during S8, I'd feel totally differently. But as is... Of course, since there's stil maybe 10-12 issues left (if they do an entire seasons like S9 did), I may be jumping to the wrong conclusion as I did constantly during S9 - but as I *haven't* during S10. I'm PRAYING that Pat Shand proves me wrong.... So question, P3Nathan. If I'm right, how do you want me to respond before you get yours and if I'm wrong, how do you want me to respond before you get yours?? Or should I very simply not post until others get theirs??? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 16:48:18 GMT -5
I've ended up seeing spoilers tonight anyway, so Es you don't have to worry about spoiling anything for me. I heard so much excitement that I caved.  Dunno how much you want to know, but fortunately your theory isn't quite right... having said that, from what I've heard, I'm not particularly impressed by the sound of what is going on, but I'll reserve my full judgement until I've actually read it.  As is, not sure I understand the huge excitement, but we'll see. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 23, 2015 16:59:55 GMT -5
Well, that will definitely makes things easier for me to review...
Just keep in mind that what happens in this issue isn't necessarily the way the season will end...although with this Phole-fan (Phoebe is definitely the Mary Sue and Cole is definitely the Gary Stu of this season, the way Leo and Prue were of S9 amd the way Billie was of S8 and Chris was of S6), I've given up expecting to like whatever he comes up with.
But as always, he's more than welcomed to prove me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 17:20:23 GMT -5
Question: Why are the current comics continually referred to as "Season 10"?
I'm sorry, but there is no such season. Charmed ran for eight seasons and that was it, the end, done, finished.
The comics are fanon, and thus cannot be considered legitimate continuations of the show. Enjoy the comics all you want, folks, but remember that they're fanon, not canon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 17:36:25 GMT -5
Yeah we know that.
The comic "seasons" are just to separate each run of the comics I guess. Season 9 was Paul's, season 10 is Pat's.
It's not the TV show, but sort of like a TV show, they're committed to 20 or so issues and then hope to get renewed for another run. That and the authors just seem to like writing it that way.
Plus CBS (and Zenescope) really want it to be canon basically and since they own the rights, they can call it what they want.
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