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Post by cyma on Jun 3, 2014 1:50:16 GMT -5
...sleep with Shane while he was possessed by the Source of all Evil?
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 3, 2014 6:11:34 GMT -5
OH! She could've been the one carrying the Phoetus! That would've made a much greater storyline than turning Cole into the Source! Especially if she'd had the baby rather than Piper.
I don't know if we know for sure, but since we see her with her boyfriend in "A Knight to Remember" and he talks to her after she's taken her shower and looking in the mirror, I would guess that she did.
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Post by Astral Vision on Jun 3, 2014 15:11:46 GMT -5
Es, what does "A Knight to Remember" have to do with the Paige/Shane relationship? Glenn's the one she's seen with in "A Knight to Remember".
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Post by Esmeralda on Jun 3, 2014 19:56:10 GMT -5
We saw her sleeping with whoever in A Knight to Remember, so that means she sleeps with her boyfriend and Shane was her boyfriend and we saw him in the mirror after her shower on what was probably the next morning. And with the way the Charmed Ones slept around, since the show equated sex with love....
That all tends to say that she probably slept with him while he was possessed.
But you're right - I wrote that previous post awful fast so it doesn't make as much sense. Hope this does.
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Post by cyma on Jun 11, 2014 3:52:50 GMT -5
OH! She could've been the one carrying the Phoetus! That would've made a much greater storyline than turning Cole into the Source! Especially if she'd had the baby rather than Piper. Bad idea for so many reasons: - Cole/Source storyline was awesome. It had its flaws and it was rushed, and Phoebe should've remained Queen of the Underworld for a longer duration, but despite all those things, it was one of the best things Charmed ever produced. And then never produced.
- Paige is a new character who’s replacing Prue, having her knocked up would be the worst way to develop her character.
- While I have confidence in Holly’s and Alyssa’s acting abilities as mothers, Rose as a wonderful, loving Mom? I can’t see it. But an evil heartless one, yes definitely as she proved in Once Upon a Time. If Rose played the Evil Enchantress as a mother then that would definitely be great. One problem is that the actor who played the Source sucks compared to Julian as the Source. Second problem is again, Paige is a new character. So something like that shouldn’t take place in S4. Also a sister turning evil(or in Paige's case, switching with her evil past-self) deserves a longer plot than mere one episode.Third problem is that it was established in all three seasons of how vulnerable Phoebe was to swaying towards evil, due to being born in the Manor, having an evil past-life, killing someone using her powers in the future etc. etc. so it makes logical sense to use Phoebe instead of Paige who we're still learning about.
- Babies kill TV shows. Seriously. Why such a rush to get the sisters pregnant and with kids? Piper wants a baby, Seer wants a baby, Leo wants a baby, Cole changes reality and the Seer again wants a baby even though Cole never became the Source….Chris is a baby that needs to be produced….Phoebe wants a baby….seriously….enough with the babies. There's more to character development than babies. I would rather see more of Queen Phoebe rather than pregnant-evil-baby influencing her Phoebe.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Sept 3, 2016 9:58:10 GMT -5
Babies kill TV shows. Seriously. Why such a rush to get the sisters pregnant and with kids? Piper wants a baby, Seer wants a baby, Leo wants a baby, Cole changes reality and the Seer again wants a baby even though Cole never became the Source….Chris is a baby that needs to be produced….Phoebe wants a baby….seriously….enough with the babies. There's more to character development than babies. I would rather see more of Queen Phoebe rather than pregnant-evil-baby influencing her Phoebe. Enough with the babies! This was like…wait. Holy crap, I see why you did that.
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Post by sol on Dec 20, 2016 2:01:55 GMT -5
I agree, they were perfect for the story, Phoebe was so naive and romantic and selfless and joyful and foolishly in love that she was perfect as Queen of Evil And a sexy Source was better than a fake frightening Source!
However, if after Charmed AgainII, Paige'ld have decided to take her time away from sisters and magic, Piper and Phoebe'ld fight the Source with Leo and Cole's help, avoiding the non realistic birth of an immediate relationship between the sisters
I don't believe it, babies kill when the writers are not able to find a good plot per them
In Kill Bill Vol 2, Wyatt and Chris are perfectly integrated into the plot
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2016 7:17:28 GMT -5
I don't believe it, babies kill when the writers are not able to find a good plot per them In Kill Bill Vol 2, Wyatt and Chris are perfectly integrated into the plot But one episode out of how many??? But you're right - it's not the babies who kill the show - it's the writers who use them as a way of saying, "Jump the shark time, people - we can't think of any more fresh, shocking ideas (like one of the ones who are only supposed to have daughters having a more-powerful-than-them son) - the definition of jump the shark."
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Post by sol on Dec 21, 2016 1:47:56 GMT -5
They didn't jump the shark with Wyatt, they opened the possibility of a spin off completely different In fact, we got Supernatural,that should have been the story of two journalists who travel the US in search of supernatural stories to write and became two brothers who fight evil
Burge also conceived Prue Piper and Phoebe - matbe with different names-as three college classmates who find themselves witches and it was Duke Vincent to want three sisters and family dynamics
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 10, 2017 19:36:11 GMT -5
I believe she did. I always wondered about those things. Like was Wyatt also evil in future since Piper are the chocolate
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 10, 2017 19:56:56 GMT -5
I believe she did. I always wondered about those things. Like was Wyatt also evil in future since Piper are the chocolate Nope, the chocolate had nothing to do with Wyatt turning evil. I thought so, too, at first, but then someone reminded me of this conversation: Source: transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4860Please note that all the potion does is make her receptive to demon seed. Leo was not "shooting" demon seed. And it's not his blood in the potion. The chocolate might have made her horny, but it's not when Piper became pregnant. I still think she became pregnant when the Demon of Destiny told her she was.. (nothing angelic about that guy...)
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Post by Ruth Marie on Feb 10, 2017 20:25:25 GMT -5
But Piper was having problems conceiving wasn't she, then suddenly in Witch Way Now she was able to have children and was pregnant. It was hard not but impossible to have children for Piper. But I always wondered if something changed once they decided to continue being witches and reject the offer to give up their powers.
But what would have happened, if Phoebe never took the tonic at all or the chocolate, but still got pregnant. Would this have possibly meant Phoebe might have carried out the destiny set with Wyatt. But isn't the timing funny. That once Phoebe lost the baby, Piper is suddenly revealed as pregnant with a son after the Angel of Destiny told her.
Not that it means anything, but just something I was wondering. Especially with what the Seer told Cole in Marry Go Round, that she saw Cole and Phoebe will produce the most powerful child the magical world has ever seen. Hint's at the prophecy of Wyatt, or just something that was originally set with Phoebe's son, and later ended up being Piper's.
Just throwing out ideas.
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Post by imdb lives on on Feb 10, 2017 20:45:34 GMT -5
That's what made me think that. Es brings up a good point but it does seem coincidental
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 10, 2017 21:56:00 GMT -5
Oh, yes, I definitely see the similarities - like I said, I thought so, too, but all of that seems to say otherwise.
I still think Leo's whitelighter seed healed Piper inside which is what allowed her to have kids. If it was just the chocolate, how was she able to conceive Chris and (if you believe the flashforward is real...) Prudence Melinda?
I wonder if originally they did mean Wyatt to be the Phoetus but with them not knowing if the show would run more than four seasons without Prue, they had to wrap things up just in case...so they came up with getting rid of the Phoetus and getting Piper pregnant instead...
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Post by ljones on Feb 10, 2017 22:22:51 GMT -5
The Seer had foreseen that Cole and Phoebe's baby would be a powerful force of good. That is why she had created the potion for the Source/Cole to feed Phoebe, so that the baby would become completely evil.
Did Piper, at some point, accidentally took a sample of that potion before she had learned about her pregnancy with Wyatt? I don't remember.
As for Paige, I don't know if the Source had taken possession of Paige's boyfriend (who is the son of Beau Bridges, by the way) before they had sex or after.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 22, 2021 8:55:18 GMT -5
...sleep with Shane while he was possessed by the Source of all Evil? I would assume so.
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