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Post by isaiah on Apr 25, 2015 19:19:05 GMT -5
this tells of why prue died paige being a charmed on and why prue came back.
Melinda's prophecy " you can kill me but not my kind. Each generation of witches will grow stronger and stronger until the arrivel of three sisters. These sisters will be the most powerful witches of all time they will be known as the charmed ones" suddenly melinda is pulled into a powerful vision her eyes turn green she speaks in a raspy voice " these sisters shall fight diffrent evils for three years then the eldest shall died. Arriving in the fourth sister she shall join the remaining sisters and complete their first destiny. Then the eldest shall be reunited with her sisters and get a brand new destiny. Allowing all fours sisters to continue their destiny to fight evil". Melinda's eyes return to normal and she is burned
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Post by Nimue on Apr 26, 2015 12:45:18 GMT -5
Hmm... No offense, but I've always preferred the "Power of Three" to the "Power of Four". It's not a bad prophecy, but... I don't particularly like it. The show was originally about three sisters who happen to be witches.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 26, 2015 17:02:24 GMT -5
I'm with you totally. If there were supposed to be four, Melinda Warren would've said something when she was with the sisters in "The Witch is Back".
Not hating - just not agreeing.
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Post by isaiah on Apr 27, 2015 16:29:49 GMT -5
I didn't mean it to be a power of four thing i meant piper phoebe and paige as the power of three and prue as the caretaker of the all when i said continue the fight
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Post by Nimue on Apr 28, 2015 1:01:53 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sorry, I completely misunderstood your post! But how could Prue just be the caretaker? Would she still have her powers or not?
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 28, 2015 11:10:28 GMT -5
Again. If Melinda had seen that, she would've wondered who Prue was and where Paige was. Particularly when her daughter had Prue's name. Unless I'm still misunderstanding what you meant. And if Prue was the caretaker, Paige's powers would've been exactly like Prue's, which they weren't, since it was purely a whitelighter power, not a witch one - it definitely wasn't a hybrid.
Nope, Melinda never foresaw Paige because had she and had she passed that down, people would expect witches to have babies with their whitelighters and it wouldn't have been forbidden so Paige would've grown up with her sisters. And as long as Paige was alive, there would be no need for Prue to be a caretaker.
Trying to change the prophecy simply doesn't make sense with what happened in the first three seasons.
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Post by forbuss on Apr 28, 2015 12:25:39 GMT -5
Again. If Melinda had seen that, she would've wondered who Prue was and where Paige was. Particularly when her daughter had Prue's name. Unless I'm still misunderstanding what you meant. And if Prue was the caretaker, Paige's powers would've been exactly like Prue's, which they weren't, since it was purely a whitelighter power, not a witch one - it definitely wasn't a hybrid. Nope, Melinda never foresaw Paige because had she and had she passed that down, people would expect witches to have babies with their whitelighters and it wouldn't have been forbidden so Paige would've grown up with her sisters. And as long as Paige was alive, there would be no need for Prue to be a caretaker. Trying to change the prophecy simply doesn't make sense with what happened in the first three seasons. Yeah, Es. I somehow wish there was a way to explain Prue's leaving within the context of the show. It's hard to line up what we know as fans with the whole Shannen being fired drama within the plot and arc of why the Charmed ones exists. The best explanation I have heard is that Prue was destined to die because she saw the angel of death in S3, foreshadowing her demise. However, this does not really impact Melinda's prophecy. I know that you will hate this Es, and I actually do a bit too, but the best explanation I have heard is that Prue was never meant to be a Charmed one. The "arrival" of three sisters happened when Paige found the sisters, completing Melinda's prophecy. This obviously has a lot of holes, but if I stretch my mind a little it makes sense.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 28, 2015 14:46:39 GMT -5
No, I will always believe that the prophecy meant the original Charmed Ones, because Melinda Warren recognized them when she saw them. That is something that is impossible to explain any other way.
Of course you know my explanation within the context of the show - S4-8 is an alternate universe spin-off where only the name of the characters are the same and none of the rules apply, while in the real world, Prue never died and Piper had Melinda who was just a witch and not a witchlighter. Witches don't get whitelighter powers until after they're dead and truly earn their wings. But that's just my own fanon which makes more sense to me than anything else.
But if you want to believe that S4-S8 is truly the real world like most fans do, then within the context of the show, it's what Leo always said, that the future was constantly changing. I've always believed that Melinda never saw them going into the future in "Morality Bites" and didn't know how it would affect Prue's pride - believing that she would at least live into 2009, she tried to save innocents without once worrying about her own mortality and it cost her...
I've never truly believed that the second set had the Power of Three - after all, they had to rely on the Matriarchs to get rid of the Source and had to become goddesses in order to take out the Titans. If they had the Power of Three and if it was really as powerful as it was set out to be during the first two seasons, that would've been the only thing they would've needed. There's also no way one of their sons would be more powerful than them or that there would be two sisters who were more powerful than them, that one of them would be the Ultimate Power more powerful than the most powerful magic in the world. It's also why all the extra powers makes no sense.. That's all simply illogical within the mythology of the show.
For me, that in itself proves that Paige was just a substitute - the true Power of Three were three full sisters, the Halliwells, not two Halliwells and a Matthews. The second set is indeed the second set of Charmed Ones, just like Phoebe's daughters will be - but they're not as powerful as the first set, because they can't access the Power of Three, which died when Prue did. Melinda Warren was right - the power culminated (ended) with those three, the three she foresaw.
But, of course, that also is just my own fanon, or what some fans call: my head-canon, which makes it make sense to me. Each fan gets to figure out her own head-canon.
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Post by forbuss on Apr 29, 2015 11:35:36 GMT -5
No, I will always believe that the prophecy meant the original Charmed Ones, because Melinda Warren recognized them when she saw them. That is something that is impossible to explain any other way. Of course you know my explanation within the context of the show - S4-8 is an alternate universe spin-off where only the name of the characters are the same and none of the rules apply, while in the real world, Prue never died and Piper had Melinda who was just a witch and not a witchlighter. Witches don't get whitelighter powers until after they're dead and truly earn their wings. But that's just my own fanon which makes more sense to me than anything else. But if you want to believe that S4-S8 is truly the real world like most fans do, then within the context of the show, it's what Leo always said, that the future was constantly changing. I've always believed that Melinda never saw them going into the future in "Morality Bites" and didn't know how it would affect Prue's pride - believing that she would at least live into 2009, she tried to save innocents without once worrying about her own mortality and it cost her... I've never truly believed that the second set had the Power of Three - after all, they had to rely on the Matriarchs to get rid of the Source and had to become goddesses in order to take out the Titans. If they had the Power of Three and if it was really as powerful as it was set out to be during the first two seasons, that would've been the only thing they would've needed. There's also no way one of their sons would be more powerful than them or that there would be two sisters who were more powerful than them, that one of them would be the Ultimate Power more powerful than the most powerful magic in the world. It's also why all the extra powers makes no sense.. That's all simply illogical within the mythology of the show. For me, that in itself proves that Paige was just a substitute - the true Power of Three were three full sisters, the Halliwells, not two Halliwells and a Matthews. The second set is indeed the second set of Charmed Ones, just like Phoebe's daughters will be - but they're not as powerful as the first set, because they can't access the Power of Three, which died when Prue did. Melinda Warren was right - the power culminated (ended) with those three, the three she foresaw. But, of course, that also is just my own fanon, or what some fans call: my head-canon, which makes it make sense to me. Each fan gets to figure out her own head-canon. I agree, Es, that P3 was stronger with Prue within the context of the show.. I just mean the explanation itself makes sense, but I disagree with many of the implications of the explanation - like how they were more powerful. THEY, as a whole, weren't more powerful, it just seems like they were because Piper was so over-powered. It was really her that brought 90% of the power to the "new" Charmed Ones/Po3.
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Post by Esmeralda on Apr 29, 2015 16:24:43 GMT -5
Ah, gotcha. And you're right about that. But Piper's explosions still couldn't take out everyone, while the Power of Three (the first set) could. Again, even with Piper and her explosions, they still needed the Matriarchs to get rid of the Source and they needed to be turned into goddesses to take out the Titans, and TWO sisters were more powerful than they. That's all you need to know. Whatever the female version of emasculate is (which is what Kern did to both Cole and Leo), that's what he did to the Charmed Ones in each of these situations.
No wonder I count those seasons as an alternate universe that isn't real.
Besides, remember that Piper-with-explosions was also part of the original set. At that point, they'd be much more powerful than the second set, since Prue's TK was much more powerful than Paige's summon-orbing (nothing witchy about it and she had to call for the item, then have it orb to her before she could throw it or ricochet it - truly if any of the S4-8 demons had ANY brains, they would've killed her during that period.) - Kern SO screwed that up when he should've simply let her have Prue's powers exactly as they were along with the whitelighter powers if he really wanted her to be different!) besides having the Power of Three. And had Prue lived and Piper gotten more proficient with her explosions as she did and would've, they would've been even more powerful - definitely the most powerful witches who ever lived, even more powerful than the so-called Ultimate Power. The true Ultimate Power should've always been the Charmed Ones. The fact that the second set isn't shows that they don't have the Power of Three.
Truly the set who had it were the Jenkinses - and there were only two of them making them even more powerful than the original set - which is why in my Forever Charmed rewrite I made their mother Patty's half-sister - Grams' daughter from her third marriage. It always made me wonder if *they* were the ones with the extra full-sister somewhere...
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