Would Prue had trusted Billie and Christy?

[jdpm1991]

If Prue was in Season 8 with Billie and Christy would she had trusted those two like Piper, Phoebe and Paige did? 

[Sadrick]

Prue was always the last one to trust a newcomer. We saw this with Aviva, and again with Cole. She may be the most sensitive when it comes to helping innocents, but she's also the most loyal and protective of her own family. It would take a longer period of adjustment and trust-building for Billie to earn her friendship. However, due to Christie's upbringing amongst demons, I suspect Prue would always harbour some misgivings towards her. She wouldn't trust her, having learned from past experiences with Cole to always be at the ready. Interestingly enough - Christie would have the most difficult time in convincing Billie that Prue has lost her way since she was wholeheartedly committed to the mission by Season 3. Now attacking Prue's character on the basis that she places her family before anything else would be easier. The question then becomes whether the lesson from encountering the Four Horsemen would continue to be part of her personal system of conduct after so many years.

It becomes a matter of what the tipping is for Prue to go from being suspicious of the Jenkins Sisters to wanting to kill them. The cynicism and self-absorption that clouded Piper's judgement doesn't afflict Prue. On the other hand, she is very prideful and does not like to be proven wrong in arguments. Also, another point to consider is the fact that the Charmed Ones were at their strongest with Prue. The most the Jenkins Sisters could do was force a draw with their neo-counterpart. What do you believe would be the result of them challenging the original trio? The chances of them coming out alive against Prue, Piper, and Phoebe would be very slim.

[West]

No way. Prue would trust them. I'd imagine the original trio would of defeated Billie and Christy earlier.

Its interesting idea for fan fiction. If Prue had been around for the whole series, in the storylines we had. How her presence would change things. Still keeping the big bads as they were.

Prue being around when Zankou attacked is very very interesting. I'd imagine Andy as a zombie back.

I think Prue would take a while to warm up to Billie, if we assume if Phoebe who meets her and is the sister to connect with her the most. It wouldn't surprise me if Prue believed she was out to get them, originally.

[yinsoul]

Speaking of this, I hated how when Phoebe (Phoebe!) was willing to invite the girls over to her place and talk the situation out, but Piper, blindly shrewing her way through the situation to get her iced husband back, happily decided to screw it all up. Why?! The entire thing could have likely been averted or at least Billie's trust wouldnt have been shaken by having a potion- a potion from the Charmed Ones, that usually kill instead of 'scare' mind- thrown at her and her sister. I know its bad writing and all but Phoebe really should have called Piper out on her stupidity more.

[adzpower]

I think Prue would have initially trusted Billie because she would see her as a young, innocent newbie witch to help, havign said that, as soon as Christy appeared I imagine Prue would have gotten very suspicious, how P2 2.0 didn't get any bad vibes from her at first I'll never know.
I might be mistaken but wasn't it revealed somewhere that P3 2.0 WAS weaker than the originals because Prue was still tied into the prophecy or something? So she still possessed some of the Charmed power the three alive sisters should have had access to and this was draining their overall collective?
If that is true then I imagine it would have taken all of 5 minutes to destroy the "ultimate" power (never could take this name seriously, ultimate? THEM?!) LOL.

[Esmeralda]

Aug 14, 2015 11:22:43 GMT -5 adzpower said:

I think Prue would have initially trusted Billie because she would see her as a young, innocent newbie witch to help, havign said that, as soon as Christy appeared I imagine Prue would have gotten very suspicious, how P2 2.0 didn't get any bad vibes from her at first I'll never know.
I might be mistaken but wasn't it revealed somewhere that P3 2.0 WAS weaker than the originals because Prue was still tied into the prophecy or something? So she still possessed some of the Charmed power the three alive sisters should have had access to and this was draining their overall collective?
If that is true then I imagine it would have taken all of 5 minutes to destroy the "ultimate" power (never could take this name seriously, ultimate? THEM?!) LOL.

LOL, that's exactly what's said in the comics. Now keep in mind that the comics are NOT canon, but the way Paul Ruditis handled the power of four vs. the Power of Three is one of the things I positively ADORE about the comics and that is definitely part of my head-canon. This is part of Issue #16:

[Scene: Inside the Salem Witch House in Salem, Massachusetts. Patience, a young blonde woman, is on the phone with her co-worker, Sarah, a young witch who has just come into her powers.]

Patience: Hey! Just wanted to see how you’re doing. I was worried when you didn’t come in today….No, I get it. But you’ve made real progress over the last few days, Sarah….Well, don’t give up. I expect to see you in the morning…But I can cancel my plans tonight if you need me.

CUE: NOK! NOK!

Patience (cont): So long as you’re sure. Sounds like my date’s early, anyway.

(She hangs up the phone)

Patience (opening the door): Didn’t anyone ever teach you—

(She goes pale, staring at the man who is on the other side; not her date, but Cole Turner! She takes a deep breath.)

Patience (professionally): I’m sorry. Tours ended at five o’clock. You’ll have to come back tomorrow.

(She slams the door, then leans against it, putting her hand to her forehead)

Patience: I’m okay. Don’t overact.

Cole (o.s.): That is no way to treat an old friend.

(Patience stares in shock, then in anger at Cole who has shimmered in next to her.)

Patience: Who are you? What are you doing here? How did you get inside so fast?

Cole: Enough with the show. I know you’re Prue. And, more importantly, I know that you know that you’re Prue.

Patience (now revealed as Prue): You have to leave now, and forget that you ever saw me.

Cole: I can’t leave. Your family is worried.

Prue: My family? Don’t tell me Phoebe sent you.

Cole: Your mother and Grams. They’ve been concerned ever since you disappeared from the Upper Regions with no explanations.

Prue: It was for their own good. If they didn’t know what I was doing, they wouldn’t get in trouble.

Cole: You mean they wouldn’t stop you. Prue, you can’t just hijack a living body. Trust me; I’ve tried.

Prue: I didn’t just randomly hijack a body. It’s complicated. And don’t you have more important things to do now that you’re dead?

Cole: I wish I could. But the only way I have a chance to get what I want is by helping you.

Prue: What is it you want now?

Cole: My soul is frozen in time. I can’t move on. I can’t grow or change. Not while I’m in this void between life and death. Every time I make any progress, try to become a better person, my old demons take control again, figuratively speaking. I still love Phoebe and I can’t let her go no matter how much I’ve tried. No matter how much I want to. Tell me you don’t know what it’s like.

Prue: I don’t.

Cole (crossing his arms): No, it’s worse for you. Your spirit was allowed to move on, but you never really did. Part of you is still trapped between life and death.

Prue: You always were too smart for your own good. Did my mom tell you what it was like? After I died?

Cole: I know it wasn’t all sunshine and lollipops.

Prue: It was hell. No, I’ve been to hell. It was worse. It was that damned prophecy. The Charmed Ones. A family line culminating with the three most powerful witches the world has ever known. The magic of the Warren line was supposed to be at its strongest with us. But we never had the chance to fulfill that destiny….I don’t really have time for this. I have a date tonight.

Cole: He’s running late.

Prue: You didn’t do anything to him, did you?

Cole: Nothing permanent. But what would your ex think about you dating? Andy, wasn’t it?

Prue: Like you said, it’s hard to move on when something’s holding you back. With the prophecy unfulfilled, I couldn’t move on. Not entirely.

Oh, sure, the Angels of Destiny allowed me to join my family in the Beyond. I was with Mom and Grams. I reunited with Andy.

But part of me was still trapped between life and death. It was tearing my soul apart. I lashed out at everyone for no reason. Andy suffered the most. But he wouldn’t let me go.

I thought if I helped Piper and Phoebe find Paige, the prophecy would transfer to her and everything would be fine. Then I left them alone to let the power grow without any interference.

But Melinda Warren knew nothing about Paige. The prophecy was meant for Piper, Phoebe and me. The power wasn’t supposed to transfer to anyone. As long as I still had a connection to the Warren line, I would always be tied to my sisters, stopping them from realizing their full power.

I had to go someplace to be alone. I chose a quiet corner of the astral plane.

Cole: But I suspect it didn’t solve the problem.

Prue: If it had, do you think I’d be in this body now? I could still feel our bond tearing at me. Even worse, I was holding them back. How else do you think that little blonde and her sister were such a threat to the Charmed Ones? Ultimate power, my a$$!!

Have to throw this in…I HOWLED when I first read that! Another Kern-wrong righted by Paul Ruditis!

I thought if I returned to the Earthly plane and used my magic to help the innocent as it was intended that that might make a difference. I found a witch that Charon, the Soul Collector, had gone after. She was in a coma, brain dead. No chance of recovery. I sort of…took over. And I finally felt whole again, but the bond with my sisters was back immediately. In this new body, every time I use magic I feel it. But that’s not all. It didn’t take long for me to realize that I was growing stronger. And I could feel Piper, Phoebe and Paige get stronger, too.

Paul Ruditis’ explanation for why the Charmed Ones’ powers have grown so much since the start of the comics. Naturally, the real reason is that you can do so much in the comics that you couldn’t in real life, and a whole lot cheaper. But this works great as an explanation!

Cole: But why are you hiding? If you’re more powerful, why not unite with your sisters? The four of you could be a force to be reckoned with.

Prue: You really don’t understand how prophecies work, do you? Melinda Warren didn’t foresee a Power of Four. Paige and I share one of Melinda’s three powers. Piper and Phoebe have the other two. That’s the only way the Power of Three could continue without me. If we ever got together, I doubt it would make us stronger. It would probably weaken the power of the Charmed Ones even more.

For all I know, the reaction could be cataclysmic. We’re not supposed to be four sisters together. That’s not what was foreseen. I’ve got to keep my distance. From all the Warrens. It’s the only way to keep the family safe.

I *adore* this explanation of the difference between the Power of Three and the so-called power of four!

(Prue takes Cole’s hand)

Prue (cont.): You’ve got to keep my secret. You’re the only person who knows I’m back.

[Scene: The Underworld, where Leo’s archenemy, Darklighter Rennick is watching the scene in a magic mirror]

Rennick: That’s not quite true.

[The scene in the mirror switches to Magic School, where Paige’s aide, Bailey, is running into Paige’s office with a paper in her hand.)

Bailey: Well, I have another one for the list. Her name is Sarah. She’s just coming into her powers. Lives in Salem, Massachusetts.

Paige: Salem? How fitting.

Bailey: It gets better. She’s a guide at the local witch house tourist trap.

Paige: Thanks. That makes a dozen potential new students. I’ll start on the list tomorrow. I need to take my kids home.

Bailey: Yes, family time is so important.

Rennick (at the same time): Yes, family time is so important...

End of the issue…

[adzpower]

Aaaah that makes a lot of sense actually, what an interesting scene, I knew I'd read about it somewhere, haha ultimate power my a$$! Love it, sounds like he captured Prue's personality pretty well. Also sounds like she's been pretty much watching her sisters the whole time she's been in heaven.

[Esmeralda]

Aug 14, 2015 15:15:20 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Aaaah that makes a lot of sense actually, what an interesting scene, I knew I'd read about it somewhere, haha ultimate power my a$$! Love it, sounds like he captured Prue's personality pretty well. Also sounds like she's been pretty much watching her sisters the whole time she's been in heaven.

Exactly, exactly true.

It's why I'll always wish that Paul Ruditis had been the showrunner for the entire run of Charmed - he knows and loves the characters the way we do...

[West]

Aug 14, 2015 17:34:17 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Aug 14, 2015 15:15:20 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Aaaah that makes a lot of sense actually, what an interesting scene, I knew I'd read about it somewhere, haha ultimate power my a$$! Love it, sounds like he captured Prue's personality pretty well. Also sounds like she's been pretty much watching her sisters the whole time she's been in heaven.

Exactly, exactly true.

It's why I'll always wish that Paul Ruditis had been the showrunner for the entire run of Charmed - he knows and loves the characters the way we do...

Oh he does, if connie had to be taken over by a male showrunner, Paul would be fantastic.

I still need to read the war on witches ebook, sadly I hope a printed copy comes out, as I'm not a fan of ebooks period. I need a hard copy when reading. Why I'm over how much everything is digital. I'd hate to see books and dvds turn into VHS in 10 years, oh boy.

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I feel that I should point out that, Paul Ruditis, while no doubt an excellent writer of the novels and comics, has never worked on a television show.   Would he even be qualified to be a showrunner?

[Sadrick]

The original PO3 mananged to do what its neo-counterpart couldn't, vanquish Shax with only two of the sisters. This bit of information even comes up during the S4 premiere as Phoebe contemplates going after him. Piper confessed that the reason why she and Prue could accomplish it is because Prue was the most powerful. In spite of what later episodes may tell you, I never believed that Paige truly surpassed Prue; not if her half-sibling was still alive and continued to grow. Paige had a significant upper hand by starting with two sisters who are well-versed in the craft by that point. She could rely on them to quickly get her up to speed. Prue? She had to start from scratch with nothing but the Book of Shadows and her fellow novice sisters.

By the end of S3, Prue was actively challenging Upper-Level demons on her own. Her physical combat prowess was about on-par with Phoebe's. Could you imagine how powerful she would be with the level of telekinesis used in Morality Bites combined with her advanced martial arts skills and Astral Projection from Primrose Empath (skills which she admitted were a glimpse of where her powers would end up after enough growth)? You would have a big power discrepancy between the sisters. I don't know how Paige would be able to compete against a Prue who had the time to reach her pinnacle.

[Esmeralda]

Aug 15, 2015 5:22:42 GMT -5 Sadrick said:

The original PO3 mananged to do what its neo-counterpart couldn't, vanquish Shax with only two of the sisters. This bit of information even comes up during the S4 premiere as Phoebe contemplates going after him. Piper confessed that the reason why she and Prue could accomplish it is because Prue was the most powerful. In spite of what later episodes may tell you, I never believed that Paige truly surpassed Prue; not if her half-sibling was still alive and continued to grow. Paige had a significant upper hand by starting with two sisters who are well-versed in the craft by that point. She could rely on them to quickly get her up to speed. Prue? She had to start from scratch with nothing but the Book of Shadows and her fellow novice sisters.

By the end of S3, Prue was actively challenging Upper-Level demons on her own. Her physical combat prowess was about on-par with Phoebe's. Could you imagine how powerful she would be with the level of telekinesis used in Morality Bites combined with her advanced martial arts skills and Astral Projection from Primrose Empath (skills which she admitted were a glimpse of where her powers would end up after enough growth)? You would have a big power discrepancy between the sisters. I don't know how Paige would be able to compete against a Prue who had the time to reach her pinnacle.

Which is why I'm glad she died when she did. Had Kern been able to continue to mess with her character, she would've been the too-powerful too-feel-sorry-for-me oldest sister that Piper turned into. Since I already didn't like Piper for the way she treated Dan and Leo and already hated Phoebe for the way she put Cole in front of her sisters (the Power of Three should've died at that point, and as far as I'm concerned, it did.), so I would've also hated hating Prue the way I hate S4-8 (except S5, not counting "Oh, My Goddess!" which I count as part of S6) Piper.

As far as I'm concerned, Prue and Cole were the lucky ones to be gotten rid of when they did. If only Piper, Phoebe, Paige and Leo had been as lucky and the series had ended when it should've - after "Witch Way Now?" or better, after "All Hell Breaks Loose".