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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 23:02:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't they eventually become a power of one anyway? Remember in the future of "Morality Bites" Piper froze what looked like an entire city block. And Prue blew damn near half the attic up with just one swipe of her hand. And both weren't even trying.
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Post by Esmeralda on Oct 25, 2015 23:36:05 GMT -5
Wouldn't they eventually become a power of one anyway? Remember in the future of "Morality Bites" Piper froze what looked like an entire city block. And Prue blew damn near half the attic up with just one swipe of her hand. And both weren't even trying. But that was when they were evil and using magic for personal gain. I always thought that's what made those powers so powerful - that had they continued to protect innocents, they wouldn't need to be that big, so they wouldn't have grown that big. |
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Post by ljones on Oct 27, 2015 21:26:08 GMT -5
I certainly have no problems with Phoebe's abilities as a seer. But I see no reason why she could have received a fire power. What's wrong with that?
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 28, 2015 5:37:53 GMT -5
Because the show was meant to be about three sisters who happened to be witches that vanquished evil whenever they struck through them attacking the sisters directly or Phoebe getting a premonition making her important then because she saved a lot of people using her power which was worth while having.
They weren't meant to be demon hunters who went looking for evil in the first place like the Winchester brothers did which happened late season 3 onward when Piper blew things up which changed the dynamics completely then because the sisters didn't work together every time vanquishing whatever evil they did using spells, potions and their wits like the original set did.
Phoebe wasn't important then 'cause Piper just got rid of whatever it was with a flick of the wrist meaning her premonitions were few and far between.
The show started going downhill and made Charmed loose what made the sisters unique having something other witches didn't the P03 which was used rarely then.
Phoebe didn't need a fire power because Piper had it already.
If she'd had the sisters would've been too powerful then what with Paige being able to orb later on obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 6:31:52 GMT -5
If she'd had the sisters would've been too powerful then what with Paige being able to orb later on obviously. They technically did become overpowered. Phoebe deflected multiple fireballs thrown at her back at the demons, vanquishing multiple demons in one fell swoop with a wave of her hands. Not even Prue & Piper were capable of deflecting multiple fire balls. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Oct 31, 2015 13:13:22 GMT -5
Not even Prue & Piper were capable of deflecting multiple fire balls. No of course not it would've taken a few years for Prue's telekinesis and Piper's blowing up powers to be on Phoebe's power level which I think was too much when she got that power season 6. She should never have been able to channel or replicate powers then IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 0:13:20 GMT -5
They technically did become overpowered. Phoebe deflected multiple fireballs thrown at her back at the demons, vanquishing multiple demons in one fell swoop with a wave of her hands. Not even Prue & Piper were capable of deflecting multiple fire balls. No of course not it would've taken a few years for Prue's telekinesis and Piper's blowing up powers to be on Phoebe's power level which I think was too much when she got that power season 6. She should never have been able to channel or replicate powers then IMO. Hence my suggestion that Phoebe should've simply been able to 'resist' magical attacks, rather than channel or replicate them, as she did to Piper's telekinesis when she was a Valkyrie. So, had a demon thrown a fireball at her, I'd have liked her to almost absorb it, or only be thrown back slightly. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 0:26:29 GMT -5
Wouldn't they eventually become a power of one anyway? Remember in the future of "Morality Bites" Piper froze what looked like an entire city block. And Prue blew damn near half the attic up with just one swipe of her hand. And both weren't even trying. But that was when they were evil and using magic for personal gain. I always thought that's what made those powers so powerful - that had they continued to protect innocents, they wouldn't need to be that big, so they wouldn't have grown that big. That's kind of what Es and I were getting at with our power discussion above. Prue was always meant to be the 'offense', but she should never have been able to destroy without the need of her sisters (or certainly not with ease). This was the big mistake they made when Piper became the 'offense' (aka the Oldest Sister). So, although Prue's power could've advanced to allow her to throw demons faster/harder/further; given her stronger punches and kicks; allowed her to hover/flip and maybe even to throw small, short blasts of energy, it should not have grown to allow her to destroy an entire room with the flick of her hand. I'm not sure the sisters were strictly Evil in the 'Morality Bites' future but they had certainly renounced the Wiccan Rede and were using magic for personal gain, but I don't know how that would cause their powers to become stronger, surely a talented witch will become just as powerful being Good as they would Evil? Also, Future Leo implied to Phoebe that her power 'had changed' from being passive (i.e. had become offensive) so that suggests the writers had planned to make each sister a 'Power of One' in her own right eventually. Another possible explanation is that the Future Sisters took potions/casts spells to amplify their powers? And if they were truly Evil wouldn't they be out stealing/buying massive fire power to break Phoebe out? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 1, 2015 0:40:04 GMT -5
But that was when they were evil and using magic for personal gain. I always thought that's what made those powers so powerful - that had they continued to protect innocents, they wouldn't need to be that big, so they wouldn't have grown that big. That's kind of what Es and I were getting at with our power discussion above. Prue was always meant to be the 'offense', but she should never have been able to destroy without the need of her sisters (or certainly not with ease). This was the big mistake they made when Piper became the 'offense' (aka the Oldest Sister). So, although Prue's power could've advanced to allow her to throw demons faster/harder/further; given her stronger punches and kicks; allowed her to hover/flip and maybe even to throw small, short blasts of energy, it should not have grown to allow her to destroy an entire room with the flick of her hand. I'm not sure the sisters were strictly Evil in the 'Morality Bites' future but they had certainly renounced the Wiccan Rede and were using magic for personal gain, but I don't know how that would cause their powers to become stronger, surely a talented witch will become just as powerful being Good as they would Evil? Also, Future Leo implied to Phoebe that her power 'had changed' from being passive (i.e. had become offensive) so that suggests the writers had planned to make each sister a 'Power of One' in her own right eventually. Another possible explanation is that the Future Sisters took potions/casts spells to amplify their powers? And if they were truly Evil wouldn't they be out stealing/buying massive fire power to break Phoebe out? Even though they were evil, they were still smart. Leo said they were still in the clear. If they had done that, they would have proven that they were also witches and the hunt would've gone on. That's why Phoebe wouldn't let them do what the non-Wiccan-Reid sisters wanted to - and probably did - do. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 1:05:29 GMT -5
That's kind of what Es and I were getting at with our power discussion above. Prue was always meant to be the 'offense', but she should never have been able to destroy without the need of her sisters (or certainly not with ease). This was the big mistake they made when Piper became the 'offense' (aka the Oldest Sister). So, although Prue's power could've advanced to allow her to throw demons faster/harder/further; given her stronger punches and kicks; allowed her to hover/flip and maybe even to throw small, short blasts of energy, it should not have grown to allow her to destroy an entire room with the flick of her hand. I'm not sure the sisters were strictly Evil in the 'Morality Bites' future but they had certainly renounced the Wiccan Rede and were using magic for personal gain, but I don't know how that would cause their powers to become stronger, surely a talented witch will become just as powerful being Good as they would Evil? Also, Future Leo implied to Phoebe that her power 'had changed' from being passive (i.e. had become offensive) so that suggests the writers had planned to make each sister a 'Power of One' in her own right eventually. Another possible explanation is that the Future Sisters took potions/casts spells to amplify their powers? And if they were truly Evil wouldn't they be out stealing/buying massive fire power to break Phoebe out? Even though they were evil, they were still smart. Leo said they were still in the clear. If they had done that, they would have proven that they were also witches and the hunt would've gone on. That's why Phoebe wouldn't let them do what the non-Wiccan-Reid sisters wanted to - and probably did - do. Thing is, what were they planning to do once they broke Phoebe out. Surely it would've been obvious that they used magic to break her out? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 1, 2015 9:17:46 GMT -5
Even though they were evil, they were still smart. Leo said they were still in the clear. If they had done that, they would have proven that they were also witches and the hunt would've gone on. That's why Phoebe wouldn't let them do what the non-Wiccan-Reid sisters wanted to - and probably did - do. Thing is, what were they planning to do once they broke Phoebe out. Surely it would've been obvious that they used magic to break her out? Not if Piper froze then entire scene and freed Phoebe before they unfroze. They would've known magic had been used, but wouldn't know by who - they'd probably think Phoebe had done something to free herself. And more likely than not, *that* Prue would've killed Pratt and Phoebe and Piper would've let her. If the hunt was indeed Pratt's crusade, it would've died with him, especially if Prue and Piper continued to have nothing to do with Phoebe and nothing to do with each other. Besides, remember, the spell to return to the past was gone - that tells you what truly would've happened - freeze the scene, free Phoebe, return to Buckland's, use the spell to go back, probably ending up in the world on the other side of Gideon's mirror, not caring what happens to their world...much like the Charmed Ones in Season Seven when they only cared about their own little utopia and their own losses - who cared that the rest of the world lost their free will - they sure didn't. |
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