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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 15:16:53 GMT -5
I just meant that they are overrated for being such minor characters (in my eyes). But, overrated by whom? Tim pretty much appears to be the sole superfan of them. Something can't be overrated if it's not popular. If you want to know who's "overrated," look no further than the Rowe Coven, IMO. They were rather blah characters who only appeared in one episode, never to be seen or heard from again, and yet the fandom seems to absolutely love them, some even to the point where they wish the Rowes had been the series' main Big Bad instead of the Source. Tim's 100% right about them, they really weren't anything but generic warlocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 18:36:14 GMT -5
They had this big build up to the "Evil Charmed Ones". And what did we get, Bland, Blander, and Blandest.
I'm guessing the Rowe brothers were never see again because the writers realized what a wash out they'd been. Best to forget them and move on.
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Post by erikamarie on Dec 18, 2015 1:39:47 GMT -5
There are arguments that I am not able to understand at all
R & H have had adequate space, their story began, has grown consistently and ended, the serie was about the sisters, not the Charmes Ones against R & H
Fans and fanfic writers are then free to become attached to a character, to write of that character, these are personal choices, no one has the right to decide what should or not should be valued
I liked Crone, I think she'ld be a great villain, it didn't happen, whatever
Charmed was a source of ideas and characters, often just mentioned and it is useless open the debate about the reasons- the many reasons- again
About different points of view, I liked the Wndingo, for a simple reason; whem I was little, my nan warned us children about the danger there was in the woods of telling of Luop Garou and the Ogrè, or the Etruscan orc spoken of in Perceval, the Story of the Grail or the Wendingo before he landed in the Canadians woods
Many'ld be the reasons why certain plots or certain characters can are liked or not
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 6:32:59 GMT -5
I just meant that they are overrated for being such minor characters (in my eyes). But, overrated by whom? Tim pretty much appears to be the sole superfan of them. Something can't be overrated if it's not popular. If you want to know who's "overrated," look no further than the Rowe Coven, IMO. They were rather blah characters who only appeared in one episode, never to be seen or heard from again, and yet the fandom seems to absolutely love them, some even to the point where they wish the Rowes had been the series' main Big Bad instead of the Source. Tim's 100% right about them, they really weren't anything but generic warlocks. They're quite well liked considering they were only in about 6 episdoes, in my opinion. Yes, I agree the Rowe Coven are equally overrated. The only S1 I think deserve acclaim are Barbas, Tempus and Rodriguez, in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 12:40:05 GMT -5
They're quite well liked considering they were only in about 6 episdoes, in my opinion. But, by whom? Tim seems to be the only person here who really, really likes them, which I don't consider to be "well-liked." That's the point I'm trying to make. Lots of people here seem to love the Rowe Coven, but I can't think of anyone besides Tim who really loves Rex & Hannah. In fact, they were practically forgotten and ignored here until he showed up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 13:17:05 GMT -5
That's true. If anyone wants proof, they only have to look at the Rex and Hannah thread. Before I came here, half-a-year ago, the last post in that thread was made in 2011. |
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Post by Nimue on Dec 18, 2015 15:17:28 GMT -5
Can I just say that this argument/debate is becoming ridiculous? Rex and Hannah only appeared in a handful of episodes, and there really isn't much to discuss about them (and I say this as a die-hard fan of Rex). Just because there aren't that many threads about them doesn't mean they aren't popular, it just means people have nothing to say about them.
As for the Rowe Coven, they were set up to be the anti-thesis of the Charmed Ones, the evil brothers. And Brendan had that romance with Prue, which makes him even more popular. I always thought their romance was very sweet, and wish they had ended up together.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 18:27:33 GMT -5
And that was the whole problem, the Rowe Brothers were built up as the "Evil Charmed Ones", a big bad to be feared.
And look what we got, the sisters didn't even have to work hard to defeat them. The Halliwell sisters didn't even need a deus ex machina to bail them out (which they did need when they faced R&H).
The so called Evil Charmed Ones were just another day at the office for the Halliwell sisters.
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Post by Darkhorse Christian on Dec 19, 2015 8:50:25 GMT -5
But, overrated by whom? Tim pretty much appears to be the sole superfan of them. Something can't be overrated if it's not popular. If you want to know who's "overrated," look no further than the Rowe Coven, IMO. They were rather blah characters who only appeared in one episode, never to be seen or heard from again, and yet the fandom seems to absolutely love them, some even to the point where they wish the Rowes had been the series' main Big Bad instead of the Source. Tim's 100% right about them, they really weren't anything but generic warlocks. They're quite well liked considering they were only in about 6 episdoes, in my opinion. Yes, I agree the Rowe Coven are equally overrated. The only S1 I think deserve acclaim are Barbas, Tempus and Rodriguez, in my opinion. The issue people are having with your use of "overrated" with Rex and Hannah is that they're honestly barely even rated. For something to be overrated it has to have a comparatively wide base of people rating it highly and making that clear in the first place. "Underwhelming" or "nothing special" would probably be more fitting terms to describe what you're actually trying to get across here. Take two of my favorite characters, Kira and Inspector Cortez. When it comes to having a glowing opinion of Kira, I'm not exactly short on company. She's one of the most popular guest characters on the show despite only being there for three episodes. Calling her "overrated" if you don't think so highly of her would translate accurately to Charmed fans because they see that she is highly rated in the first place. Cortez, though? I'm probably the only one here and one of the few in the overall fandom who sees an interesting character who went through much of the same Paige did in the "Charmed Again" episodes rather than thinking of him as a Sheridan prototype. If I hear someone say he's overrated, I'm scratching my head asking who else have I ever seen proclaim a like for the character. In fact I'd say it's reasonable for Tim to consider Rex and Hannah underrated, same as I consider Cortez. And the "porn star", come hither, warlock's moll business you mentioned earlier was only a thing in one of their six episodes, used to prove a point about Rex's powers. Hardly a representative assessment of their characterization. And that was the whole problem, the Rowe Brothers were built up as the "Evil Charmed Ones", a big bad to be feared. And look what we got, the sisters didn't even have to work hard to defeat them. The Halliwell sisters didn't even need a deus ex machina to bail them out (which they did need when they faced R&H). The so called Evil Charmed Ones were just another day at the office for the Halliwell sisters. Also, the "evil trio counterpart to the Charmed Ones" gimmick ended up being repackaged at least twice afterwards, didn't it? The Stillman Sisters, Savard and his girls…although in those cases the premise was about them actually trying to steal the sisters' identities for a purpose… |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 10:25:33 GMT -5
The issue people are having with your use of "overrated" with Rex and Hannah is that they're honestly barely even rated. For something to be overrated it has to have a comparatively wide base of people rating it highly and making that clear in the first place. "Underwhelming" or "nothing special" would probably be more fitting terms to describe what you're actually trying to get across here. Take two of my favorite characters, Kira and Inspector Cortez. When it comes to having a glowing opinion of Kira, I'm not exactly short on company. She's one of the most popular guest characters on the show despite only being there for three episodes. Calling her "overrated" if you don't think so highly of her would translate accurately to Charmed fans because they see that she is highly rated in the first place. Cortez, though? I'm probably the only one here and one of the few in the overall fandom who sees an interesting character who went through much of the same Paige did in the "Charmed Again" episodes rather than thinking of him as a Sheridan prototype. If I hear someone say he's overrated, I'm scratching my head asking who else have I ever seen proclaim a like for the character. In fact I'd say it's reasonable for Tim to consider Rex and Hannah underrated, same as I consider Cortez. THANK YOU. That is ALL I've been trying to tell Deano. Something just can't be considered "overrated" if it isn't popular. He really isn't alone in not caring about the characters, because most people in the fandom don't. That's why you'd be hard-pressed to find a Rex & Hannah fanfic that wasn't written by Tim. Also, the "evil trio counterpart to the Charmed Ones" gimmick ended up being repackaged at least twice afterwards, didn't it? The Stillman Sisters, Savard and his girls…although in those cases the premise was about them actually trying to steal the sisters' identities for a purpose… Yeah, and the evil trio idea failed both of those times, too. The show really should've just stopped trying to make the "Evil Charmed Ones" idea work.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 12:31:55 GMT -5
I like Kira too. That is why I brought her back in the R&H Chronicles. I paired her up with Cole.
As far as I know, the only story that had Rex and Hannah in it, that I had nothing to do with, was An All Knighter. This was an entry in the excellent Destined series. Unfortunately, AAK was being written at the time the Destined series was abandoned. An All Knighter was never, and mostly likely never will be, completed.
You would think that, after the Rowe Brothers and Stillman sisters debacles, they would have given up on the "Evil Charmed Ones" idea. However, since S8 had virtually no budget, they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel for ideas, including recycling this failed concept.
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Post by Chrisaholic on Dec 22, 2015 10:31:00 GMT -5
I loved Rex and Hannah as the first great villians of the Charmed Ones, and also the first ones to have a plan. Longer termed but it was too short in the show.
Anyway, as for pros and cons for each season? ... I'll try to do that ASAP.
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Post by Aaeiyn on Apr 21, 2024 18:06:18 GMT -5
Season One
Pro: The most balanced out season between power balance (ALL THREE sisters using their powers/abilities, in the SAME episode), "protect/save the innocent(s)" friendly, dark but still silly.
Con: Too Prue focused but considering outside knowledge, IK why, but I don't like it LOL
Season Two
Pro: The most physically affectionate season of the Prue Era set of sisters.
Con: The love triangle between Dan, Leo & Piper. Along with Prue being completely unrecognizable, to me.
Season Three
Pro: More Phoebe focused.
Con: Less Warren Power Balance between ALL three of the sisters.
Season Four
Pro: Most balanced out season with ORIGINAL Warren powers and secondary powers. Along with Paige.
Con: Not enough of Paige's history nor enough time with Phoebe, as Queen of the Underworld.
Season Five
Pro: The best of the S5-S8 bracket in regards to ORIGINAL Warren Power usage, amongst ALL THREE of the sisters.
Con: TERRIBLE storytelling season.
Season Six
Pro: The best of the S5-S8 bracket in regards to pretty good storytelling.
Con: TERRIBLE with ORIGINAL Warren Power usage especially the lack of premonitions, along with the lack of "Protect/Save the Innocent(s)" themed type of episodes.
Season Seven
Pro: A great reset in balancing out Phoebe's toolkit.
Con: Terrible season for Piper's freezing powers.
Season Eight
Pro: A surprising season in bringing back the Warren Power usage, as Piper begins to freeze more than explode things (not as much as S4).
Con: Phoebe being completely irrelevant.
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Post by rebooted on Apr 22, 2024 2:41:02 GMT -5
One - Pro's: focus on sisterhood, con's: story slow to start Two - Pro's: sisters had great chemistry, con's: boring love triangle Three - Pro's: Loved the introduction of story arcs, con's: Prue died Four - Pro's: Introduced a great new character, con's: too focused on Phoebe and Cole Five - Pro's: the bond between the new PO3 grew, con's: nymphs, leprachauns Six - Pro's: mystery surrounding Chris, con's: said story wasn't expanded on enough, too many filler episodes get in the way Seven - Pro's: Finally had a pretty badass villain, con's: Avatar storyline extremely boring Eight - Pro's: Paige returns to form, con's: it exists. probably wraps up my summary too |
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