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Post by jdpm1991 on Dec 13, 2015 20:54:54 GMT -5
Throughout the series Prue, Piper, Phoebe and Paige had power growth and development with new powers. Why didn't this happen to Patty and Penny? They kept their original powers. Was it because they were the Charmed Ones?
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Post by adzpower on Dec 14, 2015 8:21:28 GMT -5
They were just normal witches, they both inherited a Warren power like their ancestors and I'm sure they did advance and get stronger as time went on, hence how we saw Grams throw them out the house in That 70's Episode with relative ease. It's just that they didn't have any Charmed power so their powers never grew into anything new.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:55:18 GMT -5
Yes, exactly. It seems that the sisters were the only ones to develop multiple powers. Previous generations (aside from Melinda Warren herself of course) just seemed to have one power that got stronger and stronger. Like adzpower mentioned, Grams banishing the sisters from the Manor... and there was also Brianna who could move a sword hundreds of miles away. Just wish the sisters had developed in a similar fashion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 8:31:41 GMT -5
I think the writers' initial idea was for each sister to be a "Melinda Warren" in their own right and have three distinct powers - for what other reason would they give Prue AP, Phoebe Levitation and Piper MC? However, when Prue died and Paige was introduced that all fell by the way side.
But yeah, I assume only extremely upper-level witches can develop multiple powers. The only witches beside the Charmed Ones who seemed to have multiple powers were the Jenkinses and the Montanas (the latter probably achieving this via questionable methods).
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 17, 2015 9:32:30 GMT -5
I think the writers' initial idea was for each sister to be a "Melinda Warren" in their own right and have three distinct powers - for what other reason would they give Prue AP, Phoebe Levitation and Piper MC? However, when Prue died and Paige was introduced that all fell by the way side. But yeah, I assume only extremely upper-level witches can develop multiple powers. The only witches beside the Charmed Ones who seemed to have multiple powers were the Jenkinses and the Montanas (the latter probably achieving this via questionable methods). Can't agree with that one. If they wanted that, they would've said that Prue's astral projection was a totally different power so each would end up with three. They kept trying to pretend that those new powers were upgrades of the earlier ones, when they weren't. It didn't happen to Penny and Patty because they weren't Charmed and didn't need more. |
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 10, 2018 1:56:27 GMT -5
The prophecy foretold that each generation would get stronger accumulating to 3 powerful sisters. With that said Patty and Penny should have developed at least 3 powers also but the writers were afraid that the charmed ones wouldn't look as powerful. Between Melinda and Penny there was at least 10 generations. Also Melinda's power weren't connected, so the sisters powers never really needed to be connected. I actually think it did more harm than good when the show tried to connect the sisters new powers. Like Piper Molecular combustion really isn't a new power altogether but rather an advancement of her original power. Her original power slowed down molecules while the combustion simply speed the up. The writers could have done better in the power department when it came to the sisters.
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Also the Prophecy was stated in Season 1 of Charmed so no retconned or whatever people like to claim that the later seasons do and the whole Patty and Penny stuff happens in the first 3 seasons.
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Post by Hexenwerk on Jun 10, 2018 21:44:17 GMT -5
I think originally they were going for the "each sister is a Melinda Warren" deal with things like Prue's power of astral projection, but then the Leo and the Elders became more involved than was initially planned early-on and suddenly powers were things that they could grant or take away and all of that nonsense, basically taking away the idea that it was a witch's birthright, and further restricting the autonomy of the sisters and witches in general.
If you wanted to look at it one way, though, you could argue that the powers were a natural development and either Leo fed the sisters misinformation due to his own ignorance (and he was basically their only source of knowledge other than the Book of Shadows, and one who was aligned with a group besides them), or the Elders consciously told him to tell them these things because they wanted the sisters to have the impression that they were under the thumbs of the Elders and were meant to further the agendas of the Elders.
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 11, 2018 0:50:35 GMT -5
I think originally they were going for the "each sister is a Melinda Warren" deal with things like Prue's power of astral projection, but then the Leo and the Elders became more involved than was initially planned early-on and suddenly powers were things that they could grant or take away and all of that nonsense, basically taking away the idea that it was a witch's birthright, and further restricting the autonomy of the sisters and witches in general. If you wanted to look at it one way, though, you could argue that the powers were a natural development and either Leo fed the sisters misinformation due to his own ignorance (and he was basically their only source of knowledge other than the Book of Shadows, and one who was aligned with a group besides them), or the Elders consciously told him to tell them these things because they wanted the sisters to have the impression that they were under the thumbs of the Elders and were meant to further the agendas of the Elders. The Elders never took the sisters powers. It was the Tribunal that took Phoebe's active powers. The elders had nothing to do with Phoebe's powers being taken. |
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Post by Hexenwerk on Jun 11, 2018 1:55:21 GMT -5
I think originally they were going for the "each sister is a Melinda Warren" deal with things like Prue's power of astral projection, but then the Leo and the Elders became more involved than was initially planned early-on and suddenly powers were things that they could grant or take away and all of that nonsense, basically taking away the idea that it was a witch's birthright, and further restricting the autonomy of the sisters and witches in general. If you wanted to look at it one way, though, you could argue that the powers were a natural development and either Leo fed the sisters misinformation due to his own ignorance (and he was basically their only source of knowledge other than the Book of Shadows, and one who was aligned with a group besides them), or the Elders consciously told him to tell them these things because they wanted the sisters to have the impression that they were under the thumbs of the Elders and were meant to further the agendas of the Elders. The Elders never took the sisters powers. It was the Tribunal that took Phoebe's active powers. The elders had nothing to do with Phoebe's powers being taken. Right, thanks for catching me on that. But the Elders are a part of the Tribunal along with some demons, yeah? |
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Post by universalcharmed on Jun 12, 2018 3:18:21 GMT -5
The Elders never took the sisters powers. It was the Tribunal that took Phoebe's active powers. The elders had nothing to do with Phoebe's powers being taken. Right, thanks for catching me on that. But the Elders are a part of the Tribunal along with some demons, yeah? Upper Level Demons and Elders made up the Tribunal but it wasn't the Elders decision as in the group that resides in the upper regions to take Phoebe's powers. |
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Post by Polarity on Jul 31, 2018 21:28:56 GMT -5
I think they weren't supposed to grow like the sisters did. I like to think their powers grew a little stronger, we just didn't see it, as we didn't see their growing up and stuff like that. We only saw what we were "meant" to see.
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Post by ryang on Feb 19, 2019 23:05:20 GMT -5
The Charmed Ones has their powers for like 7 years. I guess Patty and Penny's grew over the course of decades, so their powers were likely much stronger, which I believe was the case for Grams, at least in That 70s Episode.
A hypothesis of mine is that the Charmed One were able to develop new powers that were more or less connected to the original power, which makes sense. Melinda "practiced" three non-connected powers, then why didn't the Charmed Ones? Astral Projection really grew from Prue being "super busy" during 2.09. Phoebe definitely got levitation from her martial arts and empathy from being an advice columnist. Not sure about Piper's second power, though...
At any rate, the only allusion we have to new powers in the Charmed line were the cousins in the 1920s, which I just brushed off as inter-witch breeding with the exception of the Piper's past life who carried on the Charmed line.
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Post by ljones on Jun 14, 2019 15:58:20 GMT -5
Did she? Grams had to use a chant, along with her telekinesis.
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Post by forbuss on Sept 13, 2020 23:35:25 GMT -5
Did she? Grams had to use a chant, along with her telekinesis. Yeah, she blasted them out a complicated path easily. When you say "chant" are you referring to her saying 'demons be gone'? I also wanted to add, Penny 'reversed' Piper's freeze in That 70's Episode, likely meaning she could cancel Patty's freeze. I think this is technically and effectively Penny being able to cancel/over power freezing, possibly other powers. In the season two episode "The Painted World" Prue moves a fireball Piper froze and it didn't unfreeze. Didn't Prue move Pipers freeze before, without the demon unfreezing? Penny = super powerful!!  |
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Post by goldeneye049 on Sept 14, 2020 0:59:50 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd rather Prue, Piper, and Phoebe have only one power each. I always thought that the power of three could travel through time. Let me explain, "the power of three will set us free", their strength are increased. Piper stops time, Phoebe projects a vision of the past or present, and Prue pulls her back / forward with telekinesis. Unless the victim is next on the Angel of Death's list. And of course does not work if one of the sisters is unconscious, absent or killed. And why not Prue would have the astral projection, Piper the molecular acceleration, and Phoebe the empathy (levitation is a mistake) when they use the power of three.
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