Rowe Coven

[charmedhybrid]

Hey guys been watching Season 1 and was on the episode with the Rowe Coven and had some questions.
Since the Rowes were meant to be the evil charmed ones does that mean if they had lived longer would their powers as well have advanced like the girls did?
Also what do you guys think that Brendan's powers were since he was suppose to be Phoebe's counterpart. I mean Greg had offensive powers like Prue and Paul had a defensive power like Piper so what kind of passive power do you think Brendan would have had, had he embraced his inner Warlock side?
Also do you guys think that Paul should have been saved since he wasn't as evil as his older brother Greg and he seemed to genuinely care about Brendan and even sacrificed himself to save him?

Let me know what you guys think.

Oh and for the members who are into the powers like me what do you think the Rowe's powers could have grown into had they had a bigger role in the series?

[yinsoul]

I think the idea was pretty silly of the whole "evil male Charmed Ones" but I did like Paul, actually. Which is why I thought it was silly to say later that demons (and warlocks) didnt love or feel, Paul obviously loved his brothers and I kind of wish he had lived too. He didn't seem nearly as into evil as his big bro, but went along with it more for the natural inclination I guess.

[Deleted]

It was interesting to see Paul behaving similarly to Piper: the mediator.

What were their powers again? I know Paul used a forcefield, but didn't Greg as well, it was a bit all over the place. Perhaps Brendan had something like telepathy or empathy which is why he was swayed more by Good than Evil. He could relate more to people than his brothers could.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Or he was reluctant to accept his powers and who he was maybe which some people/beings could do I don't know exactly.

[ljones]

Paul had sacrificed his life to save Brendan from Greg . . . and Brendan proved to be incapable of appreciating what Paul did. What a jerk.

[Deleted]

Paul seemed to be a live and let live kind of guy.  I get the feeling that, left to his own devices, he would have accepted Brendan's decision to be a priest and left it at that.

[Sadrick]

It's interesting how the Rowe Coven appeared to represent a triune of morality. Greg as the older brother is set in his ways and determined to commit his life to evil while Brendan is staunchly opposed to the practice of dark magic and is trying to irrevocably prevent his soul from becoming corrupted. Like Deano explained, Paul was the mediator who fit somewhere in between; not really tethered to either extremity. He seemed more amiable and willing to allow Brendan to live the life he wanted. I think it's a tragedy how his actions were simply written off at the end of show as if they didn't mean anything.

[Deleted]

Paul was the mediator who fit somewhere in between; not really tethered to either extremity. He seemed more amiable and willing to allow Brendan to live the life he wanted. I think it's a tragedy how his actions were simply written off at the end of show as if they didn't mean anything.

There's that 1950's black and white morality again.

I can think of a few episodes of Supernatural in which Dean and Sam let the "monster" live because said monster was like Paul Rowe was, not good or evil, more middle of the road.   So long as the monster didn't harm anyone, the Winchester boys were willing to give them a chance.

[CharmedFaith]

If Charmed made any mistakes in S1 it was introducing The Rowe Brothers and killing them off in one episode. Evil version of the Charmed Ones had so much story potential and wouldve been great as reoccurring enemies before becoming big bads of a season themselves. They would've been great to have as big bads after The Source is vanquished.

[Esmeralda]

I agree totally, especially if it had also included Brendan and Prue (or another one of the sisters - Phoebe, perhaps? If Paul had been more like S3 Cole...) figuring a way to save Paul, who obviously was leaning both directions and could've been turned to the good. In a lot of ways, his story was more interesting than Brendan who started off good right off and who we knew would never turn evil, even for the sake of brotherhood.

Charmed tried to replicate this idea with the Brotherhood of the Thorn in Season Three. The difference, of course, is that these are warlocks and they were demons, and these were brothers who were raised together. But switch the story and turn Paul into Cole (as played by Julian) and it would definitely make an interesting alternate universe.

Or another possibility.

What I really would've liked to have seen is if the other two brothers *weren't* vanquished, if after Brendan becomes a priest, the remaining brothers find out that they have a half-brother they never knew about who could help them reconstitute the Rowe Coen without Brendan. Especially if the half-brother was half-warlock/half-demon! Now THAT would set up what I'd count as the best Big Bad!

[summerreading]

So many great ideas.

I REALLY love the idea, of the Brotherhood of the Thorn being altered so they are the evil Charmed Ones. What if Klea was basically their own Seer like character to guide them. With having Cole's story play out as normal, and just introduce them towards the end of S3.

Wouldn't it just be great, if the season ended with the Charmed Ones vs The Brotherhood of the Thorn, instead of Shax. You suggestion Es, reconstitute the Coven with another brother. You could even see a fallout where The Charmed Ones lose Prue, and the Coven loses one, then both sides eventually find another half-sibling. Maybe then the Coven is MIA for a while but reappears later with their own half-brother.

I'll also say, if you had a set-up like this, no need to introduce the Source. This is more than enough for the sisters facing off against their greatest threat.

[Esmeralda]

That's a lot why I like this - no need for the Source and I'll always think Charmed would be much better without him, which is why he's not part of my Dream Charmed.

[Granny Charmed]

Dec 8, 2018 19:40:06 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

That's a lot why I like this - no need for the Source and I'll always think Charmed would be much better without him, which is why he's not part of my Dream Charmed.

I fully agree with this dear. No need for the Source on the show, when the big battle between good vs. evil will already have a much satisfying one with a set-up like this. 

I'd prefer him to remain as the 'he' and never seen. That the Source simply stays in the underworld or wherever Hell is located, and simply cannot resurface, the same way I'd wish the Elders and 'they' or 'them' stayed in the Heaven and never appeared.

How they laid The Source out in S1 was more than enough for me, and how it should have stayed.

But I know, most fans do love the Source and his arc. And that's fine, everyone likes different things. 

[CharmedFaith]

Dec 8, 2018 19:10:35 GMT -5 summerreading said:

So many great ideas.

I REALLY love the idea, of the Brotherhood of the Thorn being altered so they are the evil Charmed Ones. What if Klea was basically their own Seer like character to guide them. With having Cole's story play out as normal, and just introduce them towards the end of S3.

Wouldn't it just be great, if the season ended with the Charmed Ones vs The Brotherhood of the Thorn, instead of Shax. You suggestion Es, reconstitute the Coven with another brother. You could even see a fallout where The Charmed Ones lose Prue, and the Coven loses one, then both sides eventually find another half-sibling. Maybe then the Coven is MIA for a while but reappears later with their own half-brother.

I'll also say, if you had a set-up like this, no need to introduce the Source. This is more than enough for the sisters facing off against their greatest threat.

Both sides having half siblings is just to far out there lol. Just have whatshisname renounce his Priesthood and come back into the fold.

[summerreading]

Dec 8, 2018 20:14:40 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Dec 8, 2018 19:10:35 GMT -5 summerreading said:

So many great ideas.

I REALLY love the idea, of the Brotherhood of the Thorn being altered so they are the evil Charmed Ones. What if Klea was basically their own Seer like character to guide them. With having Cole's story play out as normal, and just introduce them towards the end of S3.

Wouldn't it just be great, if the season ended with the Charmed Ones vs The Brotherhood of the Thorn, instead of Shax. You suggestion Es, reconstitute the Coven with another brother. You could even see a fallout where The Charmed Ones lose Prue, and the Coven loses one, then both sides eventually find another half-sibling. Maybe then the Coven is MIA for a while but reappears later with their own half-brother.

I'll also say, if you had a set-up like this, no need to introduce the Source. This is more than enough for the sisters facing off against their greatest threat.

Both sides having half siblings is just to far out there lol. Just have whatshisname renounce his Priesthood and come back into the fold.

Thinking it over. You have a point. It does feel off. That does work better.

[Esmeralda]

Dec 8, 2018 21:31:55 GMT -5 summerreading said:

Dec 8, 2018 20:14:40 GMT -5 CharmedFaith said:

Both sides having half siblings is just to far out there lol. Just have whatshisname renounce his Priesthood and come back into the fold.

Thinking it over. You have a point. It does feel off. That does work better.

Nah, I don't like Brendan renouncing his priesthood. I'd prefer sticking with Prue, Piper and Phoebe and letting the bad guys have the half-brother, especially if the half-brother is Cole! Would LOVE him being half-demon/half-warlock, especially if he can become half-demon/half-WITCH if he saves someone innocent of the existence of magic - so saving the sisters wouldn't count.

Just think what the brothers would think if their half-brother fell for a witch after what happened with Brendan!

But if you wanted to do a version where Paige is part of it and Brendan comes back, that would be fun, too.

Different Charmed: ReImagined is what would be the most fun for the Cafe.

[Granny Charmed]

Dec 8, 2018 22:37:53 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Dec 8, 2018 21:31:55 GMT -5 summerreading said:

Thinking it over. You have a point. It does feel off. That does work better.

Nah, I don't like Brendan renouncing his priesthood. I'd prefer sticking with Prue, Piper and Phoebe and letting the bad guys have the half-brother, especially if the half-brother is Cole! Would LOVE him being half-demon/half-warlock, especially if he can become half-demon/half-WITCH if he saves someone innocent of the existence of magic - so saving the sisters wouldn't count.

Just think what the brothers would think if their half-brother fell for a witch after what happened with Brendan!

But if you wanted to do a version where Paige is part of it and Brendan comes back, that would be fun, too.

Different Charmed: ReImagined is what would be the most fun for the Cafe.

The idea of Brendan renouncing his priesthood, I just don't like dear. 

The idea of Cole being a half-demon/half-warlock sounds interesting. I also like the way you have it set up if saves someone innocent of the existence of magic - so saving the sisters wouldn't count. That is what we did in Elemental Charmed and really worked well for a story we did. 

But for Charmed: ReImagined, that would make a great story. Everyone can have their own ideas and versions. 

[pheebs]

I think it makes a good story with the evil Charmed Ones gaining a half brother and letting the original sisters remain. That might allow them to be the main big bads for multiple seasons. Where they lose one brother, maybe out of the story for a while then resurface.

What if the half brother had fallen in love with a witch unaware of everything about who he truly was and the Charmed Ones had no idea. That idea only works if the half brother was just a half warlock, yet to tap into his powers. The evil Charmed Ones are looking for their half brother not knowing he was infront of them the whole time having fallen in love with a witch or maybe a Halliwell.

Not sure how that one works. Just something I thought about right now.

[Miranda Turner]

Dec 8, 2018 22:37:53 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Dec 8, 2018 21:31:55 GMT -5 summerreading said:

Thinking it over. You have a point. It does feel off. That does work better.

Nah, I don't like Brendan renouncing his priesthood. I'd prefer sticking with Prue, Piper and Phoebe and letting the bad guys have the half-brother, especially if the half-brother is Cole! Would LOVE him being half-demon/half-warlock, especially if he can become half-demon/half-WITCH if he saves someone innocent of the existence of magic - so saving the sisters wouldn't count.

Just think what the brothers would think if their half-brother fell for a witch after what happened with Brendan!

But if you wanted to do a version where Paige is part of it and Brendan comes back, that would be fun, too.

Different Charmed: ReImagined is what would be the most fun for the Cafe.

I love the idea Es.

Having the half-brother be Cole, and him being half-demon/half-warlock, an interesting idea that he becomes half-demon/half-WITCH if he saves someone innocent of the existence of magic - so saving the sisters wouldn't count.

If I had it my way, I'd then have him die saving Phoebe after, as a way to park his character and not go into the direction of S5. Now that would actually be cool. 

Imagine if they found their half-brother in an episode like Death Takes a Halliwell with the Seekers looking for Cole. Only they find their half-brother was Cole who had fallen for a witch after what happened to Brendan too.

I saw the suggestion above, that Cole doesn't know he has half-brothers, and them searching for Cole. That comes into play later in Season Three, when they discover Cole has fallen in love with Phoebe.

Then you can have the Brotherhood of the Thorn story play out with just having the Brotherhood be the Evil Charmed Ones. Tempting Cole to their side, when they do, like what happened in Exit Strategy, Cole and his brothers attack the manor as Shax did in All Hell Breaks Loose, with them in place of Shax.  

Looks like I found something I'd like for a Different Charmed: ReImagined.

[Aaeiyn]

Mar 25, 2016 0:01:42 GMT -5 ljones said:

Paul had sacrificed his life to save Brendan from Greg . . . and Brendan proved to be incapable of appreciating what Paul did. What a jerk.

Right?  I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt that way.  Like, I still like Brendan and everything, but he just kind of shrugged off the fact that one of his own brothers sacrificed himself, to keep him alive.  It was quite underwhelming.