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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 14:04:26 GMT -5
They wouldn't be creating money out of thin air, just replacing household items that were destroyed by demons and adds to their living expenses unnecessarily. They shouldn't be able to conjure money for bills or luxuries.
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Post by West on Mar 23, 2016 14:14:52 GMT -5
They wouldn't be creating money out of thin air, just replacing household items that were destroyed by demons and adds to their living expenses unnecessarily. The shouldn't be able to conjure money for bills or luxuries. That makes sense. Besides its only by demon attacks. Its not like Phoebe accidentally broke a vase and is using magic to replace it. Its under circumstances involving demon attacks. No harm done. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 15:07:30 GMT -5
They wouldn't be creating money out of thin air, just replacing household items that were destroyed by demons and adds to their living expenses unnecessarily. The shouldn't be able to conjure money for bills or luxuries. That makes sense. Besides its only by demon attacks. Its not like Phoebe accidentally broke a vase and is using magic to replace it. Its under circumstances involving demon attacks. No harm done. Exactly. Perhaps something like the Seven Deadly Sins would've been a useful - and less rigid - guide for using magic for personal gain. Perhaps the sisters could have used magic for small personal gains (repairing furniture, conjuring food for special occasion) as long as it didn't bring harm to other people or themselves. The "themselves" part meaning, magic that would encourage sin, namely the Seven Deadly Sins. For example: - Greed: Conjuring money or if Phoebe had won the lottery via her premonition in 'I've Got You Under My Skin' and not helped the couple out. - Lust: casting attraction/love spells on people. Conjuring up "human sex toys" like Phoebe and Paige did in 'Prince Charmed'. - Gluttony: using magic for overindulging in things you already have (food, clothes, luxuries). - Wrath: using magic for violent purposes against a person like Phoebe murdering Cal Greene or Piper blowing up Leo whenever she feels like it. - Pride: casting spells/drinking potions that enhance natural ability or grant new capabilities, such as when Phoebe cast the Smart Spell on herself. - Envy: I suppose that would be magic that brings harm to someone you are jealous of or, much like Gluttony, brings you something they have. - Sloth: I can't think of someone for Sloth at the moment, just magic that encourages laziness but that's pretty general. Maybe this would be too restrictive as well but it was just an idea. |
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Post by West on Mar 24, 2016 2:26:47 GMT -5
That makes sense. Besides its only by demon attacks. Its not like Phoebe accidentally broke a vase and is using magic to replace it. Its under circumstances involving demon attacks. No harm done. Exactly. Perhaps something like the Seven Deadly Sins would've been a useful - and less rigid - guide for using magic for personal gain. Perhaps the sisters could have used magic for small personal gains (repairing furniture, conjuring food for special occasion) as long as it didn't bring harm to other people or themselves. The "themselves" part meaning, magic that would encourage sin, namely the Seven Deadly Sins. For example: - Greed: Conjuring money or if Phoebe had won the lottery via her premonition in 'I've Got You Under My Skin' and not helped the couple out. - Lust: casting attraction/love spells on people. Conjuring up "human sex toys" like Phoebe and Paige did in 'Prince Charmed'. - Gluttony: using magic for overindulging in things you already have (food, clothes, luxuries). - Wrath: using magic for violent purposes against a person like Phoebe murdering Cal Greene or Piper blowing up Leo whenever she feels like it. - Pride: casting spells/drinking potions that enhance natural ability or grant new capabilities, such as when Phoebe cast the Smart Spell on herself. - Envy: I suppose that would be magic that brings harm to someone you are jealous of or, much like Gluttony, brings you something they have. - Sloth: I can't think of someone for Sloth at the moment, just magic that encourages laziness but that's pretty general. Maybe this would be too restrictive as well but it was just an idea. A good idea. Like the witches rules book. |
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Post by erikamarie on Mar 24, 2016 13:30:17 GMT -5
I prefer "Harm none, do what ye will"
To risk their lives and also have the rulebook to respect it seems excessive
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Post by ljones on Mar 24, 2016 23:55:39 GMT -5
The ironic thing is that a rule regarding personal gain does not exist within Wicca. Burge and Kern made it all up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 22:05:03 GMT -5
Exactly. Perhaps something like the Seven Deadly Sins would've been a useful - and less rigid - guide for using magic for personal gain. Perhaps the sisters could have used magic for small personal gains (repairing furniture, conjuring food for special occasion) as long as it didn't bring harm to other people or themselves. The "themselves" part meaning, magic that would encourage sin, namely the Seven Deadly Sins. For example: - Greed: Conjuring money or if Phoebe had won the lottery via her premonition in 'I've Got You Under My Skin' and not helped the couple out. - Lust: casting attraction/love spells on people. Conjuring up "human sex toys" like Phoebe and Paige did in 'Prince Charmed'. - Gluttony: using magic for overindulging in things you already have (food, clothes, luxuries). - Wrath: using magic for violent purposes against a person like Phoebe murdering Cal Greene or Piper blowing up Leo whenever she feels like it. - Pride: casting spells/drinking potions that enhance natural ability or grant new capabilities, such as when Phoebe cast the Smart Spell on herself. - Envy: I suppose that would be magic that brings harm to someone you are jealous of or, much like Gluttony, brings you something they have. - Sloth: I can't think of someone for Sloth at the moment, just magic that encourages laziness but that's pretty general. Maybe this would be too restrictive as well but it was just an idea. A good idea. Like the witches rules book. Yeah, exactly. Although a 'Sins' one would maybe over-complicate things, but something in that vein could've been interesting. In some ways, "In harm none, do what ye will" doesn't go far enough because she then the sisters COULD just conjure money for themselves technically, and most fans wouldn't want that either. Something in between "in harm none..." and "extreme personal gain" would've been good. |
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Post by ljones on Mar 27, 2016 1:39:41 GMT -5
Yeah . . . not buying it. It's just another example of Burge and Kern trying to constrict the sisters into some black-and-white morality.
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Post by West on Mar 28, 2016 20:30:58 GMT -5
A good idea. Like the witches rules book. Yeah, exactly. Although a 'Sins' one would maybe over-complicate things, but something in that vein could've been interesting. In some ways, "In harm none, do what ye will" doesn't go far enough because she then the sisters COULD just conjure money for themselves technically, and most fans wouldn't want that either. Something in between "in harm none..." and "extreme personal gain" would've been good. Cant argue with that. Yeah something inbetween could work.
Gosh If there's a reboot one day, this is one thing that needs to change period.
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Post by ljones on Mar 31, 2016 22:32:28 GMT -5
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Post by sol on Apr 1, 2016 1:04:20 GMT -5
I prefer a magic able to contain the excesses
If all the witches'ld write spells to coin money, the world econom'ld have serious problems
In Hell Hath No Fury, Paige use the BOS to do a five spells,something good, Billy and Adam O'Brien's help, something stupid, as Instant Karma Spell against Donnie: where is personal gain?
But the spell against Donnie backfires, turned her, as Phoebe said, into Betty Boop, I think because magic is able to maintain the necessary harmony with the real
A witches rules book'ld involve the presence of a witches hierarchy, otherwise who'ld check that those rules were followed: the police? the Elders?
And why a sane person who has already to follow the laws of thestate and the country in which lives, would agree to add other laws, other duties, other bosses?
I think that In harm none, do what ye will was enough
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