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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 16:23:34 GMT -5
I wonder, if some of that filler rubbish had been cut, could have been given to developing Chris's story further.
You set up this new character, who has a mysterious background, and yet you neglect it to give the audience rubbish that no one cares about. Where the heck is the logic in this?
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Post by Chris on May 2, 2016 17:15:44 GMT -5
Oh Charmed Sons... something that will live on inside my heart. I remember watching Chris-Crossed for the first time and falling in love with that entire episode. Chris/Bianca and their amazing relationship, Evil Wyatt taking over the entire world, San Francisco in crumbles... So much potential as others have stated in this thread just thrown away into the gutter. I remember being a part of TCS campaign back in the day.
I agree, CC really needed to be fully fleshed out. If they really wanted to do Season 6 correctly, they should have just stuck with Chris and his future and character development. Actually show us what happened to Wyatt when he turned Evil, actually show us Piper dying after Chris turned 14, show us the stuff that we actually wanted to see.
Ugh, just thinking that Kern and his damn monkeys rejected this idea still makes me angry. Now all we have is fanfiction's to fill in our Wyatt/Chris[Bianca]/DarkFuture hunger.
It's a shame, it really and truly is.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 17:24:33 GMT -5
I wonder, if some of that filler rubbish had been cut, could have been given to developing Chris's story further. You set up this new character, who has a mysterious background, and yet you neglect it to give the audience rubbish that no one cares about. Where the heck is the logic in this? What makes it worse is the fact that most of that filler was the exact same kind of crap that had killed the show in the previous season. Did Kern and the WB not learn ANYTHING from the poor reception of Season 5? Skimpy costumes, fairytale crap, and pop culture ripoffs are the last things anyone ever wanted, yet they tried to serve up even more of that stuff in Season 6. Seriously? The handling of Chris was probably the biggest indication that Kern needed to be fired from Charmed (and the show moved to another network). The incompetence was just staggering.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:09:59 GMT -5
If Charmed had been on another networks, it's very unlikely that Kern would have gotten near it. The reason, IMO, that he got the job was that he was the perfect Yes Man, willing to do whatever the WB told him to do without question.
Kern was perfectly aware of the Charmed Sons campaign, but dismissed it from Day One. It's also interesting to note that ALL of Lisa's references to the campaign, which she mentioned in her interview that appears in the Special Features of the Season Eight DVD's, was edited out. She was not happy.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:14:50 GMT -5
It's also interesting to note that ALL of Lisa's references to the campaign, which she mentioned in her interview that appears in the Special Features of the Season Eight DVD's, was edited out. She was not happy. I always found that very suspicious, myself. I wonder if CBS was strongly against the Charmed Sons idea?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:20:05 GMT -5
Could be. Or perhaps Kern himself was responsible. Of course, I'm guessing here. I have no idea what control, if even, he had over what went on the DVD's.
Lisa said that the only reason she agreed to do the interview was that she could promote the TCS campaign. The DVD folks said that was okay. She was in no way informed that her mentions of the TCS campaign would be cut, she was totally blindsided here.
Whomever was responsible, that was low, real low.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:26:41 GMT -5
Could be. Or perhaps Kern himself was responsible. Of course, I'm guessing here. I have no idea what control, if even, he had over what went on the DVD's. Lisa said that the only reason she agreed to do the interview was that she could promote the TCS campaign. The DVD folks said that was okay. She was in no way informed that her mentions of the TCS campaign would be cut, she was totally blindsided here. Whomever was responsible, that was low, real low. I can't believe that Kern had THAT much power. Someone else had to have been behind this. For whatever reason, it never felt like either the WB or CBS ever supported the TCS idea. Notice how when the idea of a Charmed spinoff came up, it was all about Mermaids and Billie. I don't think Chris & Wyatt ever even came into the picture.
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Post by Granny Charmed on May 3, 2016 0:31:43 GMT -5
Could be. Or perhaps Kern himself was responsible. Of course, I'm guessing here. I have no idea what control, if even, he had over what went on the DVD's. Lisa said that the only reason she agreed to do the interview was that she could promote the TCS campaign. The DVD folks said that was okay. She was in no way informed that her mentions of the TCS campaign would be cut, she was totally blindsided here. Whomever was responsible, that was low, real low. I can't believe that Kern had THAT much power. Someone else had to have been behind this. For whatever reason, it never felt like either the WB or CBS ever supported the TCS idea. Notice how when the idea of a Charmed spinoff came up, it was all about Mermaids and Billie. I don't think Chris & Wyatt ever even came into the picture. This must explain why the show Supernatural moved to CW, the network was not invested in a spin-off. They already had a show on brothers. Have I confused matters here, or did Supernatural start airing once Charmed was finished. I cant recall, I wasn't that big a fan of Supernatural like my granddaughter and daughter were. I know my granddaughter did like Chris, but by the time the WB network was ending, she started to see the appeal of Supernatural and felt The Charmed Sons spin-off wasn't that interesting anymore, and was glad she had a new show to enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:38:28 GMT -5
This must explain why the show Supernatural moved to CW, the network was not invested in a spin-off. They already had a show on brothers. Have I confused matters here, or did Supernatural start airing once Charmed was finished. I cant recall, I wasn't that big a fan of Supernatural like my granddaughter and daughter were. I know my granddaughter did like Chris, but by the time the WB network was ending, she started to see the appeal of Supernatural and felt The Charmed Sons spin-off wasn't that interesting anymore, and was glad she had a new show to enjoy. Actually, Supernatural moved to the CW because its original network, the WB, died and became the CW. I've heard Supernatural cited as a reason why TCS never happened, but the spinoff campaign predates Supernatural by a year.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 0:42:19 GMT -5
And the CW, which was really just UPN under a new name, scooped up all the remaining WB shows, including Supernatural, as spoils of war.
In face, Supernatural is now the last remaining pre-CW show on their network.
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Post by Granny Charmed on May 3, 2016 0:53:17 GMT -5
This must explain why the show Supernatural moved to CW, the network was not invested in a spin-off. They already had a show on brothers. Have I confused matters here, or did Supernatural start airing once Charmed was finished. I cant recall, I wasn't that big a fan of Supernatural like my granddaughter and daughter were. I know my granddaughter did like Chris, but by the time the WB network was ending, she started to see the appeal of Supernatural and felt The Charmed Sons spin-off wasn't that interesting anymore, and was glad she had a new show to enjoy. Actually, Supernatural moved to the CW because its original network, the WB, died and became the CW. I've heard Supernatural cited as a reason why TCS never happened, but the spinoff campaign predates Supernatural by a year. Thanks for the clarification, I see now. I suppose we just will never know. Perhaps it came more down to the network wanting to be done with Charmed for good in any form. However If they decide on doing a spin-off one day on the children, the adult actors playing Wyatt and Chris wont be playing them, they wont be believable as 20 year olds anymore.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 11:20:01 GMT -5
However If they decide on doing a spin-off one day on the children, the adult actors playing Wyatt and Chris wont be playing them, they wont be believable as 20 year olds anymore. Yeah, the Charmed Sons spinoff idea is pretty much as dead as it could be. Drew Fuller and Wes Ramsey have both long since moved past Charmed, and even then, the finale didn't exactly leave a whole lot of room open for a spinoff, anyways. There's a reason why CBS has been talking reboot and not spinoff.
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Post by yinsoul on May 3, 2016 11:28:37 GMT -5
The wasted potential indeed rankles. It was such an intriguing thought. Everyone assumed Wyatt would grow up as a prophesized Big Good like his mother and aunties. He doesn't, and it takes his often overshadowed, secretive little brother to try and fix the future this hubris brought. I wish it would have had more impact than it did, as others in the thread have said better than I could. I am still of the opinion that Wyatt should have been bound for a while until his folks really instilled responsibility in him. I'm not sure if it would have ultimately helped, mind, but it feels a bit more responsible.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 11:39:44 GMT -5
I've never bought into the idea that SPN stopped the TCS from being made. Yeah, they would have had a similar premise, but so what.
In 1994, two shows, set in a hospital and dealt with the trials and tribulations of the staff at said hospital, that was located in the same city, premiered. These shows, ER and Chicago Hope. While CH didn't last as long as ER did, it did run for several seasons.
My point is that two shows with a similar premise can co-exist on television.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 13:49:01 GMT -5
Here's the history and mission statement of the TCS campaign, taken off of the original TCS site via the Wayback: You can browse through the remains of the original site right here. Hard to believe that letter writing campaigns were still a thing as recently as 2005. It doesn't feel like all that long ago until you realize that it was still before Facebook, Twitter, and the era of modern social media.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 16:25:22 GMT -5
The TCS campaign happened too soon. One has to wonder, had Charmed premiered five years later than it actually did, Chris would have been introduced around the time social media really began to take off.
One has to wonder how the campaign would have fared then.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 16:58:58 GMT -5
The TCS campaign happened too soon. One has to wonder, had Charmed premiered five years later than it actually did, Chris would have been introduced around the time social media really began to take off. One has to wonder how the campaign would have fared then. It's an understatement to say that social media has bridged the gap between fandom and officialdom. Facebook and Twitter have given fans direct contact with actors, writers, and producers in ways that were not even imaginable 10 years ago. Officialdom's become far more transparent and accessible, and it's had a huge impact on today's TV shows (for better or worse). The TCS campaign came right at the tail end of the pre-social media "dark ages," and it missed out on a lot of promotional opportunities because of it.
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Post by Chrisaholic on May 4, 2016 13:23:26 GMT -5
Our little group couldn't have done much as wanted since the main point was in the U.S. I remember we were three to four people from Germany in this whole group. The main part lay in America.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 23:37:14 GMT -5
Ah, yes, Jana. But Social Media has made our world a lot smaller. The TCS campaign might have had better luck if it were happening now, not 10 years ago.
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Post by Chrisaholic on May 5, 2016 8:14:48 GMT -5
True. It could have worked, our campaign, if it's happened now. And if the actors were still available.
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