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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 11:24:16 GMT -5
The problem is that the stupid writers could never keep their facts straight.
Was Paige born in 1977 or 1975? Was Penny married four or six times? How could Leo have been born in 1924 and have been attending Medical School in 1941 (when the U.S. entered World War II) when he would have been 17?
Seriously, why was no one keeping track of continuity on this show? Did they think it would be too much like work?
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Post by Esmeralda on May 16, 2016 19:35:01 GMT -5
Do you have anywhere that shows that Grams was supposed to be in her 70's when she died? I always put her as in either her 50's or her 60's when she died in 1998 - which still means she should've been in her 30's or 40's in 1968. No way that Penny was that old. My explanation has always been that Chris and Piper weren't the only ones who did some time-traveling without the Elders' help... Somehow being a witch in the 60's - especially in San Francisco and the hippy movement - rather than the 40's/50's makes sense. Patty had Prue in 1970 which is only a couple years after 1968, so I think Finola could've pulled it off. She just would've had to do what she did in 'Forever Charmed'. And we'll never know for sure how exactly they planned on doing the episode, how similar or how different it would've been with Finola rather than Jennifer. Im not sure. But the *Pardon My Past* family tree indicates Grams was born in 1930. WOW she was *37* in 1967. *45* in That 70s Episode. 67/68 at the time of her death in 1998. Jennifer was born in 1947. 56 when she was filming Witchstock. Could she pull off just playing Grams in Witchstock - she would go on to play a mid 40s woman in That 70s Episode which was 8 years later. I dont know, maybe not. Is that really accurate. So she was a teenager/early 20s and gave birth to Patty in the late 40s/early 50s. Making Patty a late teen in Witchstock. Fionla was born in 1960 (I believe unless thats wrong on Wikipedia), and about early 40s when Witchstock would be filmed. So she *could* maybe pull it off. Unless Grams was about 15 when she had Patty and Finola plays someone at least 10-12 years older than herself. So Patty say was born in 1947, that makes her 20 in Witchstock and 22/23 when Prue is born. But yeah Finola could pull it off with a wig. I think Grams being born in 1930 is pretty accurate to math up with Patty being born in early 1950s or even 1950 and then Prue born when Patty is 20 - So she died at the age of 28. Im probaly all wrong dears. But basing it off the family tree - This is *how* i came up with a rundown. Sorry to bore everyone with the details I have come up with. LOL, definitely don't trust the family trees! They actually show a mother dying before the birth date of her daughter! Also don't trust the Charmed Wiki - their editors think that their opinions are fact and that usually is not the case. Otherwise, I agree. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on May 16, 2016 20:23:21 GMT -5
Im not sure. But the *Pardon My Past* family tree indicates Grams was born in 1930. WOW she was *37* in 1967. *45* in That 70s Episode. 67/68 at the time of her death in 1998. Jennifer was born in 1947. 56 when she was filming Witchstock. Could she pull off just playing Grams in Witchstock - she would go on to play a mid 40s woman in That 70s Episode which was 8 years later. I dont know, maybe not. Is that really accurate. So she was a teenager/early 20s and gave birth to Patty in the late 40s/early 50s. Making Patty a late teen in Witchstock. Fionla was born in 1960 (I believe unless thats wrong on Wikipedia), and about early 40s when Witchstock would be filmed. So she *could* maybe pull it off. Unless Grams was about 15 when she had Patty and Finola plays someone at least 10-12 years older than herself. So Patty say was born in 1947, that makes her 20 in Witchstock and 22/23 when Prue is born. But yeah Finola could pull it off with a wig. I think Grams being born in 1930 is pretty accurate to math up with Patty being born in early 1950s or even 1950 and then Prue born when Patty is 20 - So she died at the age of 28. Im probaly all wrong dears. But basing it off the family tree - This is *how* i came up with a rundown. Sorry to bore everyone with the details I have come up with. LOL, definitely don't trust the family trees! They actually show a mother dying before the birth date of her daughter! Also don't trust the Charmed Wiki - their editors think that their opinions are fact and that usually is not the case. Otherwise, I agree. Oh dear me I didnt notice that. Then its not as accurate as I thought with the family tree. I hate that Charmed Wiki - *as* I stated in the Wiki thread. Rude people in general over at that site. Thank you. Its the best general rundown i could come up with with the facts we had. Unless we had access to the original charmed scripts. We may never know for sure. |
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Post by Esmeralda on May 16, 2016 20:35:50 GMT -5
LOL, definitely don't trust the family trees! They actually show a mother dying before the birth date of her daughter! Also don't trust the Charmed Wiki - their editors think that their opinions are fact and that usually is not the case. Otherwise, I agree. Oh dear me I didnt notice that. Then its not as accurate as I thought with the family tree. I hate that Charmed Wiki - *as* I stated in the Wiki thread. Rude people in general over at that site. Thank you. Its the best general rundown i could come up with with the facts we had. Unless we had access to the original charmed scripts. We may never know for sure. *nods* It's why I think we'll never know for sure, so all we can do is make educated guesses. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on May 16, 2016 20:41:48 GMT -5
Oh dear me I didnt notice that. Then its not as accurate as I thought with the family tree. I hate that Charmed Wiki - *as* I stated in the Wiki thread. Rude people in general over at that site. Thank you. Its the best general rundown i could come up with with the facts we had. Unless we had access to the original charmed scripts. We may never know for sure. *nods* It's why I think we'll never know for sure, so all we can do is make educated guesses. *nods* thats for sure. Also the birth year of Paige - I *never* know what year it is. Has to be 1976 or 1977. No ideas? |
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Post by Esmeralda on May 16, 2016 20:56:04 GMT -5
*nods* It's why I think we'll never know for sure, so all we can do is make educated guesses. *nods* thats for sure. Also the birth year of Paige - I *never* know what year it is. Has to be 1976 or 1977. No ideas? We can be pretty sure about that one: Source: charmedscripts.tv/charmed_again_2.htmSince she was still a baby, it's a pretty good guess that she was born in 1977. Now whether August 2nd is actually her birthday or just the day Patty and Sam gave her up, we'll never know for sure, even if the Wiki will insist that it *is* her birth date. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on May 16, 2016 21:09:56 GMT -5
*nods* thats for sure. Also the birth year of Paige - I *never* know what year it is. Has to be 1976 or 1977. No ideas? We can be pretty sure about that one: Source: charmedscripts.tv/charmed_again_2.htmSince she was still a baby, it's a pretty good guess that she was born in 1977. Now whether August 2nd is actually her birthday or just the day Patty and Sam gave her up, we'll never know for sure, even if the Wiki will insist that it *is* her birth date. Thanks for that dear. So that is 100% onscreen confirmation of at least the year. But August 2nd may *not* be accurate at all. We shall never know. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 22:39:00 GMT -5
I wish Cheaper By The Coven was a time-travel episode. It would have been an amazing opportunity to go back in time to explain the event of Paige's birth.
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Post by West on May 16, 2016 22:46:22 GMT -5
I wish Cheaper By The Coven was a time-travel episode. It would have been an amazing opportunity to go back in time to explain the event of Paige's birth. I would like that or even just more time traveling to the past or flashbacks in general. Less use of grams and patty as ghosts and use them more in time travel or flashbacks more. Now i know kern wants us to forget about prue. But Prue's birth would be anothet great one to show. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 0:11:43 GMT -5
And then Centennial Crap says Paige was born in 1975!
Geez, Kern, it's only been a year and a half since Charmed Again. You were too damned lazy to go back and check what you had written before!?
Yep, Kern wrote both Charmed Again and Centennial Crap, so he can't even use the "I didn't write that" excuse here.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 5:02:14 GMT -5
It angered me even more when Paige asks Piper and Phoebe in "Desperate Housewitches" how they vanquished the source the first time. I felt like throwing something at the TV at that point. Not only was she there, 3 times-ish but she also used it against Barbus in Season 5.
WHAT THE HELL WENT WRONG PEOPLE!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 11:36:03 GMT -5
What went wrong was that you had writers who were either too lazy or too stupid to keep up with the shows continuity.
How else can you explain a turkey like Witchstock getting made, when it should have been fed through the nearest paper shredder.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 28, 2018 3:02:29 GMT -5
I picked All Halliwell's Eve and Morality Bites. But wouldn't Centennial Charmed count?
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 1, 2018 22:51:41 GMT -5
I picked All Halliwell's Eve and Morality Bites. But wouldn't Centennial Charmed count? No, that's an alternate universe - not really time travel. Those are my two favorites, too. I don't like a lot of the other ones. |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 1, 2018 22:55:23 GMT -5
I didn't mind Chris-Chrossed either but I felt the time travel was for too short a period of time for it to count.
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Post by gzv969 on Mar 2, 2018 0:34:41 GMT -5
“That 70s episode” followed by “Forever Charmed”. I list Forever charmed just because of past patty’s character in this episode. She was so hilarious and the episode was a classic example of how one can easily screw up the past and present
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 2, 2018 7:54:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately Patty and Penny (my favorite parts of 'Forever Crap', I mean 'Forever Piper', I mean 'Forever Charmed', an episode that was the perfect ending of the S4-8 alternate universe spin-off "The Perils of Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper" but not "Charmed") weren't enough to let me enjoy it. Honestly, it bored the crap out of me. And a lot of that is because everyone knew that Piper would somehow get Leo back and Phoebe would somehow come back to life - and who cares about Paige? Piper didn't. And why were the boys included? Because their fans wanted them there? Absolutely no drama.
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Post by Jean on Jun 30, 2019 23:43:10 GMT -5
70s Episode and Morality Bites.
Actually the first three seasons were perfect as a trilogy of time travel episodes.
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Post by codebox on Jul 22, 2019 19:12:08 GMT -5
Pretty much any time travel episode after All Halliwell's Eve is garbage! No contest does 70's episode, Morality Bites and Halliwell's Eve win. The fact Witchstock, Forever Charmless and A Witch in Time is on here just makes me want to turn my head in disappointment.
With A Witch in Time this plot was already redone in Death Takes a Halliwell, only it forgets the message of that episode not only that, but the actual time travel only exists until the end and is only brief. What kills the episode however is that Phoebe learned nothing from the experience she just takes Miles' death as a revelation that she needs to focus more on love again, she didn't even take time to think about his death, but rather used it as an excuse to elevate her love life which is just disgusting and makes PhoeMe so self centered.
Witchstock of course didn't need to exist. What could've been a strong family moment (something they didn't have until Season 4 at that point) was killed by the vast amount of continuity errors and Grams age leaving disturbing implications. And I don't even want to go into Forever Charmless. lol Just a trainwreck of an episode. Worst finale hands down!
That 70's episode means a lot to me because it was the episode that got me into Charmed, yeah I didn't even start with Something Wicca this way Comes despite me growing up in the 90's. I randomly saw this episode and was hooked on how well done it was. I enjoyed the setup, the family dynamic, the fact Grams has a character and seems a lot more pleasant than a man hating misandrist she becomes in Seasons 5-8. Phoebe was so relatable here. It's a perfect example of how the family dynamic should've been used more. If I do have a criticism it would be when they first go to the 70's and when Piper asks "I thought you said mom's power was to freeze" to Prue and Prue responds as if she knew, how would she know their mom had powers, but act confused that they themselves did? lol Regardless it doesn't take away from a fun episode and Piper has some funny lines here.
Morality Bites is the best written episode, it has so much going for it and was easily the top quality Charmed reach in its peak. Coming off from the best season (at least to me) and just how well executed the plot is, especially when coming from a show where the writing is often a weakness. I just wish the follow through could've stayed throughout the show and that Phoebe didn't become PhoeMe and commit worse crimes than her executed future self.
All Halliwell's Eve a fun episode and I loved all the girl's costumes. Learning about family lore is always nice, and I just found it tons of fun. Almost as fun as the 70's episode. Plus it feature the final shot of free spirited Phoebe on a broomstick before she died and became PhoeMe from Sight Unseen onward.
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Post by ljones on Jul 24, 2019 11:13:39 GMT -5
For me, it's Season Six's "Chris-Crossed".
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