Should Witches have been allowed to steal powers?

[Deleted]

...for the purpose of them using them to fight Evil with? If Warlocks and Demons could kill and steal as many powers that they liked, why should Witches be at the disadvantage of only have one or two powers each?

I wouldn't have actually wanted the sisters to have multiple powers, but it's a interesting point to discuss, nevertheless.

[Esmeralda]

No. It would bring them down to the warlock's level and make them the same - just like the demonic Elders coming down to the demons' level in S7 or the sisters and Chris coming down to the demons' level in S6.

[Esmeralda]

Now SWITCHING powers, like Prue did in 'Love Hurts'....that's different...

[cyma]

Jun 4, 2016 15:15:19 GMT -5 @deano said:

...for the purpose of them using them to fight Evil with? If Warlocks and Demons could kill and steal as many powers that they liked, why should Witches be at the disadvantage of only have one or two powers each?

I wouldn't have actually wanted the sisters to have multiple powers, but it's a interesting point to discuss, nevertheless.

I don't think there is any rule which says they're not allowed. But if there was then yes, they definitely should be allowed. If a witch with no offensive power finds herself trapped in the Underworld or even an alley full of demons, then only chance of survival is if she were to possess a power-stealing athame kills a demon with it, gets his powers and shimmers out of there or fights her way out of there.

But there are risks of keeping a power not yours as seen with what happened to Prue with empathy, Doctor Williamson with all the sisters powers and Paige and Karen when the power brokers infected them. Even if Phoebe skillfully used energy balls to kill a room full of demons, she became hyper and wanted to kill more demons.

Strangely, Richard and Olivia's families had no problem throwing energy balls to kill each other. They also had no problem controlling what is supposed to be a demonic power.

If witches like those two families can easily use demonic powers they stole without ending up mad with lust for more powers or accidentally kill innocents or their own family members because they were angry, then by all means, they should keep those powers. Otherwise just use and discard.

Jun 4, 2016 19:14:39 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Now SWITCHING powers, like Prue did in 'Love Hurts'....that's different...

The danger of switching powers is sisters losing their powers and leaving them with a demon's powers if the demon is vanquished. Also would the Power of Three work with one sister having demonic powers which isn't premonition, TK or freezing?

Then there's also how the power switching spell can horribly backfire if there are too many people in the room....

[adzpower]

Wouldn't it have gone against the Wiccan rede as well as the whole personal gain thing? Stealing from someone using magic would be pretty big no-no I would have thought, it's what separates good from evil.

[Esmeralda]

Jun 7, 2016 16:59:57 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Wouldn't it have gone against the Wiccan rede as well as the whole personal gain thing? Stealing from someone using magic would be pretty big no-no I would have thought, it's what separates good from evil.

But when it became very obvious that the whole personal gain thing was something left behind in the early seasons - when it was perfectly AOK to murder - why not have it be okay to steal?

[sol]

I have always hated the theory of personal gain

I prefer to think that, if the sisters's powers are tied to their emotions, then their natural powers are the most suitable for them, different powers'ld become unmanageable and dangerous

[cyma]

Yup carrying unknown powers is almost like carrying weapons of mass destruction and not having the experience or the emotional capability to use them. While useful in short-term if anyone finds themselves cornered and alone, in the long-run, it's dangerous.

I believe having too many powers is dangerous. Period. Wyatt whose many powers are natural to him and over which he has full emotional control is always powerless to do anything if he's turned evil.

The Source, Zankuo, the Triad and all the demons and warlocks out there who believed more power was the answer to all their problems are all vanquished.

Even if Barbas returning from the dead all the time got annoying, he's the only one who understood this concept. Even with all the powers of the Demonic Wasteland, he chose to attack the sisters emotionally.

The others did also at first with Zankuo killing Phoebe's friend and Paige's charge and Triad using Billie and Christy, but in the end it was always we/I/they need Hollow/Nexus/Charmed power or more powers to defeat the Charmed Ones.

[StoryGirl83]

That's an interesting point about Barbas. Much as I couldn't stand him, he was pretty smart in how he attacked them and although he never succeeded, he managed to make his plans at least take longer to defeat.

[magena]

I believe having too many powers is dangerous. Period. Wyatt whose many powers are natural to him and over which he has full emotional control is always powerless to do anything if he's turned evil.

I agree, too many powers are certainly dangerous, they'ld demand a zen nature: we are humans, with negative or positive meotions, it'ld be innatural to keep always emotions, and powers, under control 

For this reason I was actratted to Wyatt, a nice baby naturally gifted with amazing powers, an overturning of the Charmed Ones story coould have been an interessing sequel

[sol]

Jun 10, 2016 2:48:54 GMT -5 cyma said:

Yup carrying unknown powers is almost like carrying weapons of mass destruction and not having the experience or the emotional capability to use them. While useful in short-term if anyone finds themselves cornered and alone, in the long-run, it's dangerous.

I believe having too many powers is dangerous. Period. Wyatt whose many powers are natural to him and over which he has full emotional control is always powerless to do anything if he's turned evil.

The Source, Zankuo, the Triad and all the demons and warlocks out there who believed more power was the answer to all their problems are all vanquished.

Even if Barbas returning from the dead all the time got annoying, he's the only one who understood this concept. Even with all the powers of the Demonic Wasteland, he chose to attack the sisters emotionally.

The others did also at first with Zankuo killing Phoebe's friend and Paige's charge and Triad using Billie and Christy, but in the end it was always we/I/they need Hollow/Nexus/Charmed power or more powers to defeat the Charmed Ones.

In fact, often in Charmed it is not their power to save the sisters but their relationship or the feelings aroused

Perhaps, in Power Outage, the sisters'ld be able to resurrect their bond, but Cole's love for Phoebe plays an important role, as in Imaginary Friend Leo is able to stop Wyatt thanks to their bond

In Charmed powers  are tied to the sisters's personality, the  reason I have always loved them, otherwise it'ld have been the  usually show with the usual superheroes who fight to the sound of special effects

[Deleted]

Jun 4, 2016 15:26:06 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

No. It would bring them down to the warlock's level and make them the same - just like the demonic Elders coming down to the demons' level in S7 or the sisters and Chris coming down to the demons' level in S6.

Good point, Es. I guess you could argue that the blatant pursuit for more power can only go one way - DOWN!

Jun 7, 2016 16:59:57 GMT -5 adzpower said:

Wouldn't it have gone against the Wiccan rede as well as the whole personal gain thing? Stealing from someone using magic would be pretty big no-no I would have thought, it's what separates good from evil.

Very possibly. Although if they're were killing warlocks/demons anyway, would it really matter if they took their powers? 

Jun 10, 2016 2:48:54 GMT -5 cyma said:

Yup carrying unknown powers is almost like carrying weapons of mass destruction and not having the experience or the emotional capability to use them. While useful in short-term if anyone finds themselves cornered and alone, in the long-run, it's dangerous.

I believe having too many powers is dangerous. Period. Wyatt whose many powers are natural to him and over which he has full emotional control is always powerless to do anything if he's turned evil.

This is my favourite explanation for witches not carrying/steal multiple powers, cyma. It IS rather analogous to having WMD, now that you mention it.  

[West]

No. Because that would bring them to a Warlock level. More power and more power they would become much like they were in Oh my Goddess with power.

Plus i dont want charmed to become like a comic book superhero show with all these powers. Thats what made charmed special with the sisters - I like that each had a specific power. It is why i dislike Paige later on with having too many powers.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Jun 16, 2016 4:29:34 GMT -5 West said:

No. Because that would bring them to a Warlock level. More power and more power they would become much like they were in Oh my Goddess with power.

Plus i dont want charmed to become like a comic book superhero show with all these powers. Thats what made charmed special with the sisters - I like that each had a specific power. It is why i dislike Paige later on with having too many powers.

I totally agree West although I didn't like Paige having all those powers later on in the seasons she was the better sister in terms of regarding innocents though I think.

[West]

Jun 16, 2016 12:59:32 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

Jun 16, 2016 4:29:34 GMT -5 West said:

No. Because that would bring them to a Warlock level. More power and more power they would become much like they were in Oh my Goddess with power.

Plus i dont want charmed to become like a comic book superhero show with all these powers. Thats what made charmed special with the sisters - I like that each had a specific power. It is why i dislike Paige later on with having too many powers.

I totally agree West although I didn't like Paige having all those powers later on in the seasons she was the better sister in terms of regarding innocents though I think.

I did like Paige with innocents. I have to remember all those times now.

I often forget that unlike the other sisters she was likeable by season 8.

Now heres a topic for future now that we up whitelighters and powers. Can a whitelighter become a darklighter if they do enough bad and abuse their powers.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Jun 16, 2016 18:43:28 GMT -5 West said:

Now heres a topic for future now that we up whitelighters and powers. Can a whitelighter become a darklighter if they do enough bad and abuse their powers.

They could've possibly if whatever action they took was really bad like murder for instance which would've been a good storyline actually had it been explored although it wasn't and Elders could've turned into upper level Darklighters which wouldn't apply to Gideon though as he wasn't inherently evil just misguided in his judgement on Wyatt and killed Sigmund to stop him babbling to the Charmed Ones and Chris so he couldn't save Wyatt.

Now Leo on the other hand although he killed Gideon to set the balance right had an ulterior motive when he done that because his mentor killed his son which technically would be a good reason for him to change and so much better than him becoming an Avatar actually as it would've shown a consequence for his action then.

Wyatt in 'Imaginary Friends' turned into a Darklighter after Vicus cursed his teddy bear so we know it's possible for half breeds which very well could've happened in his future also before 'Chris Crossed' although we never saw it and could happen to other half Whitelighters to I'm assuming based on that assessment to.

[ljones]

I believe having too many powers is dangerous. Period. Wyatt whose many powers are natural to him and over which he has full emotional control is always powerless to do anything if he's turned evil.

Wasn't their roles as the most powerful witches made the Halliwells dangerous anyway?

Can a whitelighter become a darklighter if they do enough bad and abuse their powers.

I don't see why not. If a witch can become a warlock by betraying his or her moral compass, I find it easy to believe that something similar could happen to a warlock.

Even if Barbas returning from the dead all the time got annoying, he's the only one who understood this concept. Even with all the powers of the Demonic Wasteland, he chose to attack the sisters emotionally.

Which goes to show how stupid he really was.