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Post by charmedagain4 on Jul 13, 2016 13:40:28 GMT -5
If anyone has seen seasons 9 and 10, this is for you. The last issue, had a few characters return from the past, including Andy, Amelia, Darryl, and Patience.
Issue 19 begins with Knox trying to kill Piper and Paige. Paige, who has a flashback of Henry leaving her because of the situation with Prue, goes angry and manages to orb all three of them to Prue. When they reach the Cupid Temple, they discover a blood bath and Prue holding Phoebe up by her neck. As Prue notices them, she drops Phoebe down to her death below. Paige quickly orbs out and catches her while Piper is held by Knox. When Piper punches Prue, trying to snap her out of her sadistic ways, Paige orbs her out in the knick of time. The sisters try to orb out with Coop, but fail so Paige has to orb the three away. Prue turns back into her true self (Sorry guys, but still no Shannen Doherty, just a ghostly silhouette.) She wants to go after her sisters, but Knox informs her that she is above them and she turns back into Patience. Coop begs Prue to stop and informs her that he and Phoebe have a family and Phoebe is pregnant, but Prue omniously replies so is she.
As the sisters return to the attic, Piper suggests that they find out if it is really Prue who is doing this or Heremus. As the sisters begin a spell, Amelia, Darryl, and Andy arrive to the manor. Amelia is not surprised that they are working up a spell she was going to suggest. In the attic, the spell composes of Prue's blood on a picture of her recent form, but when a figure arrives, the sisters are shocked to see Patience, who immediately tells them to go get the front door.
Downstairs, Piper and Phoebe are happy to see Andy as Paige is surprised to finally see him. Phoebe is angry to see Amelia though and doesn't know why she is helping them but unknown to the rest of them, Amelia has more than a dozen souls screaming at her to save them.
Patience reveals to the sisters everything that has happened to Prue since she inhabited her body. She insists that it is Prue who is doing all of this. She explains that while Heremus was destroyed, all of his power clung to the most powerful being which is Prue and that the sister is constantly at war with who she was and who she is now. She says that while she was trying to get out, Prue possessed her body and when she merged with the All, all Patience could do was watch. The Grimoire inside Prue was reaching out for something old and powerful and one night when she was asleep, her will extended her power and reached out for Tyler, unlocking his archai power within him. When Prue's mind still wasn't powerful enough to access the whole of the All, she saved Kyra from her fate and turned her human, taking her power of demonic foresight that enabled her to sort of see into herself and the All.
Then, she gives the reason surrounding Cole's death and Prue putting Ben's soul in his son's body. She explains that sacrifice is truly power and that Cole's sacrifice and Ben's past sacrifice to save his son, were so powerful together. Prue used Ben as an anchor for spells, managing to journey inside her mind for answers to what she was doing. When she found the part of Patience that was still inside, Prue destroyed it. She insists that she is sorry that their sister has been long gone and that she is no longer there and says that she isn't either and fades out. The sisters want to know if Amelia and Andy have a plan, who tells them that they have a crazy plan.
Through a spell, the sisters and Andy enter Darryl's body in order to connect to Prue's mind. Andy lets them know that they have to show their love for Prue in her mind.
But meanwhile in Salem, Prue is killing Knox's body and release his seeds who inhabit the dead bodies of the people around tied up Kyra, Ben, Tyler, and Coop. As a seed inhabits Tyler, he is forcefully made to open portals in the sky, releasing dragons, goblins, and demons of all sorts.
Back at the manor, Henry, who is worried and seems guilty about his fight with Paige, arrives and goes to the attic to see Darryl, Andy, and Amelia. As he makes his presence known, Paige's astral self calls out Henry, slightly leaving Darryl's body which Henry sees for himself. While Amelia orders him to stay where he is and tries to take herself, Darryl, and Andy away, Henry accidentally tags along.
When they arrive in Salem, they see Prue holding the Ancient Athamae and the demons escaping the portals. While Henry and Amelia distract Prue, Darryl surprises her and manages to touch Prue, transferring the sisters and Andy into Prue's mind where they meet her true self again (Sorry guys, but still no Shannen Doherty). As Prue apologizes for everything she has done and that she loves them, including Paige, Heremus' dark touch on Prue interrupts, destroying the family moment. Prue sends the sisters and Andy out of her mind, believing that they tried to hurt her again.
When Amelia tries to attack Prue, Prue throws some sort of lightning at her, presumably knocking her out and ending her connection with Andy, causing him to fade out and return to the afterlife. Apparently, Piper and Paige have a secret plan and Paige faces off with Prue as Piper and Paige run to release Coop. As they release Coop, he reveals that he heard Dominus say they need a human sacrifice and the blood of a twice blessed mortal to get rid of the Old Ones. Piper, surprising Phoebe, reveals that her and Paige will take care of it and she orders Coop to take himself and a pregnant Phoebe to Magic School and stay there until everything is over.
When Henry tries to attack Prue, she becomes angry at him for leaving and hurting Paige. Her eyes glow and she turns him into stone. Prue throws Paige at him, surprisingly not destroying him...yet. As Prue is angry that Paige got to marry someone and have a family, she holds the Ancient Athamae tight. Paige, on the ground, begs her to stop, but Prue simply says no and swings the athamae away, shedding blood.
The end of the issue seems to suggest that Prue killed Paige, but we all know things aren't as they seem in Charmed. What do you all think will happen in this finale? Will one of the sisters die? Will Prue stay evil and claim the world?
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Post by cyma on Jul 13, 2016 15:28:34 GMT -5
After reading the summary of next issue, I think Piper is the one who took the soul killing athame before it could hurt Paige. Phoebe also seemed horrified when Piper told Coop to take Phoebe away and take care of their unborn child as if it was a farewell or something. I'm sure Prue won't stay evil or claim the world, but I wonder if the possibility of Piper dying permanently for real this time will finally snap Prue out of it.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 13, 2016 19:30:10 GMT -5
If anyone has seen seasons 9 and 10, this is for you. The last issue, had a few characters return from the past, including Andy, Amelia, Darryl, and Patience.
Issue 19 begins with Knox trying to kill Piper and Paige. Paige, who has a flashback of Henry leaving her because of the situation with Prue, goes angry and manages to orb all three of them to Prue. When they reach the Cupid Temple, they discover a blood bath and Prue holding Phoebe up by her neck. As Prue notices them, she drops Phoebe down to her death below. Paige quickly orbs out and catches her while Piper is held by Knox. When Piper punches Prue, trying to snap her out of her sadistic ways, Paige orbs her out in the knick of time. The sisters try to orb out with Coop, but fail so Paige has to orb the three away. Prue turns back into her true self (Sorry guys, but still no Shannen Doherty, just a ghostly silhouette.) She wants to go after her sisters, but Knox informs her that she is above them and she turns back into Patience. Coop begs Prue to stop and informs her that he and Phoebe have a family and Phoebe is pregnant, but Prue omniously replies so is she.
As the sisters return to the attic, Piper suggests that they find out if it is really Prue who is doing this or Heremus. As the sisters begin a spell, Amelia, Darryl, and Andy arrive to the manor. Amelia is not surprised that they are working up a spell she was going to suggest. In the attic, the spell composes of Prue's blood on a picture of her recent form, but when a figure arrives, the sisters are shocked to see Patience, who immediately tells them to go get the front door.
Downstairs, Piper and Phoebe are happy to see Andy as Paige is surprised to finally see him. Phoebe is angry to see Amelia though and doesn't know why she is helping them but unknown to the rest of them, Amelia has more than a dozen souls screaming at her to save them.
Patience reveals to the sisters everything that has happened to Prue since she inhabited her body. She insists that it is Prue who is doing all of this. She explains that while Heremus was destroyed, all of his power clung to the most powerful being which is Prue and that the sister is constantly at war with who she was and who she is now. She says that while she was trying to get out, Prue possessed her body and when she merged with the All, all Patience could do was watch. The Grimoire inside Prue was reaching out for something old and powerful and one night when she was asleep, her will extended her power and reached out for Tyler, unlocking his archai power within him. When Prue's mind still wasn't powerful enough to access the whole of the All, she saved Kyra from her fate and turned her human, taking her power of demonic foresight that enabled her to sort of see into herself and the All.
Then, she gives the reason surrounding Cole's death and Prue putting Ben's soul in his son's body. She explains that sacrifice is truly power and that Cole's sacrifice and Ben's past sacrifice to save his son, were so powerful together. Prue used Ben as an anchor for spells, managing to journey inside her mind for answers to what she was doing. When she found the part of Patience that was still inside, Prue destroyed it. She insists that she is sorry that their sister has been long gone and that she is no longer there and says that she isn't either and fades out. The sisters want to know if Amelia and Andy have a plan, who tells them that they have a crazy plan.
Through a spell, the sisters and Andy enter Darryl's body in order to connect to Prue's mind. Andy lets them know that they have to show their love for Prue in her mind. But meanwhile in Salem, Prue is killing Knox's body and release his seeds who inhabit the dead bodies of the people around tied up Kyra, Ben, Tyler, and Coop. As a seed inhabits Tyler, he is forcefully made to open portals in the sky, releasing dragons, goblins, and demons of all sorts. Back at the manor, Henry, who is worried and seems guilty about his fight with Paige, arrives and goes to the attic to see Darryl, Andy, and Amelia. As he makes his presence known, Paige's astral self calls out Henry, slightly leaving Darryl's body which Henry sees for himself. While Amelia orders him to stay where he is and tries to take herself, Darryl, and Andy away, Henry accidentally tags along. When they arrive in Salem, they see Prue holding the Ancient Athamae and the demons escaping the portals. While Henry and Amelia distract Prue, Darryl surprises her and manages to touch Prue, transferring the sisters and Andy into Prue's mind where they meet her true self again (Sorry guys, but still no Shannen Doherty). As Prue apologizes for everything she has done and that she loves them, including Paige, Heremus' dark touch on Prue interrupts, destroying the family moment. Prue sends the sisters and Andy out of her mind, believing that they tried to hurt her again. When Amelia tries to attack Prue, Prue throws some sort of lightning at her, presumably knocking her out and ending her connection with Andy, causing him to fade out and return to the afterlife. Apparently, Piper and Paige have a secret plan and Paige faces off with Prue as Piper and Paige run to release Coop. As they release Coop, he reveals that he heard Dominus say they need a human sacrifice and the blood of a twice blessed mortal to get rid of the Old Ones. Piper, surprising Phoebe, reveals that her and Paige will take care of it and she orders Coop to take himself and a pregnant Phoebe to Magic School and stay there until everything is over. When Henry tries to attack Prue, she becomes angry at him for leaving and hurting Paige. Her eyes glow and she turns him into stone. Prue throws Paige at him, surprisingly not destroying him...yet. As Prue is angry that Paige got to marry someone and have a family, she holds the Ancient Athamae tight. Paige, on the ground, begs her to stop, but Prue simply says no and swings the athamae away, shedding blood.
The end of the issue seems to suggest that Prue killed Paige, but we all know things aren't as they seem in Charmed. What do you all think will happen in this finale? Will one of the sisters die? Will Prue stay evil and claim the world? Before I read this, I'd like to know - is this actually the last episode of Season 10 or is there still another one coming? With all these questions, it seems like there's still another one. So is this supposed to be like a two-episode finale? |
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Post by cyma on Jul 14, 2016 2:45:48 GMT -5
The detailed summary posted is of issue 19. Issue 20 is 'The Reason' and the finale which will be out in August hopefully. This thread is just speculation on what will happen in the finale.
Here's another crazy speculation:
Prue absorbs Piper. She's absorbed the Grimoire and Empyreal sword and then later on Heremus hatred and powers. Prue was also according to Kyra, unconsciously trying to devour the Power of Three and Halliwell line and it was hurting her sisters, nieces and nephews because their magic was resisting Prue's attempts.
So I wonder if it was Piper's plan all along. To be consumed. And being slashed with the athame and on the brink of soul death, the Power of Three won't stop Prue's attempts to...uh...devour Piper :-p
That’s the only thing making sense since Prue doesn't seem to completely snap out of anything anyone has done. Even empathy or going into her mind.
If Piper becomes part of Prue's mind, maybe. ..just maybe she could wield the sword and destroy the Grimoire safely. Though I don't know how Heremus hatred will be destroyed. Or how Piper's dying soul be fixed.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 14, 2016 7:35:10 GMT -5
The detailed summary posted is of issue 19. Issue 20 is 'The Reason' and the finale which will be out in August hopefully. This thread is just speculation on what will happen in the finale. Thanks! That makes it make more sense. That *might* make me like Season Ten better... NOT! |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 16, 2016 10:38:19 GMT -5
Well, I decided to go out and get the latest issue for myself.
And I am not only angry - I AM MAJORLY PISSED!
Pat Shand has definitely shown himself to be to Paul Ruditis what Brad Kern was to Connie Burge - taken his mythology and totally twisted it and ruined it. Shand says that everything that has happened in Season 10 was due to Prue taking in the Grimoire at the end of Paul Ruditis' Season 9, leading her to become the Nexus of the All. Which she did. BUT she did not just take in the Grimoire. If she did, she would not have been able to become the Nexus (which Shand twists to be totally evil - just like in Connie's version, it's not - it's the CONNECTION between the Upper World and the Lower World. If evil controls it, it becomes evil, which is what Zankou wanted. But since good controled it, it was good which is what the Warrens (and the Johnsons and the Halliwells) wanted.
In the same way, the only way Prue could become the Nexus is if she took in BOTH the Grimoire AND THE EMPIRICAL SWORD which is just as good as the Grimoire is evil! Meaning Prue always had the choice between the two. And anyone who knows Prue knows she would never choose evil. So very obviously Season 10 is just as much of an alternate universe spin-off as Seasons 4-8 are.
The scene between Andy and Prue was wonderful. What happened after that was anything but. And making Cole the big hero of the whole thing because Prue put his father in Cole's body because "Well, we all know sacrifice has power. Cole sacrificed his very soul, a soul that Ben himself once died to save. Put those together and that is a powerful magical whammy" is the biggest bunch of cow manure I've ever read! I've thought from almost Day One that this whole thing was written by a Cole-fan with Cole as his Gary Stu, complete with his noble sacrificial death of his very soul - as if Cole would ever do that for Coop - Phoebe, yes, Coop?? NO WAY! ESPECIALLY when Shand's Cole wanted Phoebe for himself, unlike Ruditis' Cole), and I'm more sure of that than anything.
Now this is not the end...there is still the final episode called "The Reason" which is supposed to truly explain everything.
So maybe, JUST MAYBE, Pat Shand will straighten things out properly, remembering that Prue took in the Empirical Sword, too. I doubt it. I think he wants Prue gone for good so it's back to just the second three if (not likely) the comics ever continue.
And if that's the case, I'll gladly have a sacrificial burning of my Season 10 issues and let my head canon be that Charmed (both real and the alternate-universe spin-off) ended with Season 9 and Paul's two e-books, "The War of the Witches" and "Let Gorgons be Gorgons".
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Post by charmedagain4 on Jul 18, 2016 1:15:09 GMT -5
Well, I decided to go out and get the latest issue for myself. And I am not only angry - I AM MAJORLY PISSED! Pat Shand has definitely shown himself to be to Paul Ruditis what Brad Kern was to Connie Burge - taken his mythology and totally twisted it and ruined it. Shand says that everything that has happened in Season 10 was due to Prue taking in the Grimoire at the end of Paul Ruditis' Season 9, leading her to become the Nexus of the All. Which she did. BUT she did not just take in the Grimoire. If she did, she would not have been able to become the Nexus (which Shand twists to be totally evil - just like in Connie's version, it's not - it's the CONNECTION between the Upper World and the Lower World. If evil controls it, it becomes evil, which is what Zankou wanted. But since good controled it, it was good which is what the Warrens (and the Johnsons and the Halliwells) wanted. In the same way, the only way Prue could become the Nexus is if she took in BOTH the Grimoire AND THE EMPIRICAL SWORD which is just as good as the Grimoire is evil! Meaning Prue always had the choice between the two. And anyone who knows Prue knows she would never choose evil. So very obviously Season 10 is just as much of an alternate universe spin-off as Seasons 4-8 are. The scene between Andy and Prue was wonderful. What happened after that was anything but. And making Cole the big hero of the whole thing because Prue put his father in Cole's body because "Well, we all know sacrifice has power. Cole sacrificed his very soul, a soul that Ben himself once died to save. Put those together and that is a powerful magical whammy" is the biggest bunch of cow manure I've ever read! I've thought from almost Day One that this whole thing was written by a Cole-fan with Cole as his Gary Stu, complete with his noble sacrificial death of his very soul - as if Cole would ever do that for Coop - Phoebe, yes, Coop?? NO WAY! ESPECIALLY when Shand's Cole wanted Phoebe for himself, unlike Ruditis' Cole), and I'm more sure of that than anything. Now this is not the end...there is still the final episode called "The Reason" which is supposed to truly explain everything. So maybe, JUST MAYBE, Pat Shand will straighten things out properly, remembering that Prue took in the Empirical Sword, too. I doubt it. I think he wants Prue gone for good so it's back to just the second three if (not likely) the comics ever continue. And if that's the case, I'll gladly have a sacrificial burning of my Season 10 issues and let my head canon be that Charmed (both real and the alternate-universe spin-off) ended with Season 9 and Paul's two e-books, "The War of the Witches" and "Let Gorgons be Gorgons". Though I understood how the questions were answered, I was also trying to figure out how sacrifice was power. I mean, I guess you can say it's a metaphor. I also feel that Prue is going to die and we'll just have the second PO3. But what has me on the fence is what can be done to undo the damage Prue has done. My theory is that somehow Prue will snap out of it and sacrifice herself and all of her powers to undo all of the damage she caused, possibly turning back time or just fixing everything that she messed with. If she dies, we will probably see her blue soul go up with Andy. But there's a possibility that if she does live, maybe that by her sacrificing her own life and powers to fix what she had done would cause "The Powers that Be" grant her Andy back in her life in a different body so that she and Andy can finally have their happy ending. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 18, 2016 1:24:48 GMT -5
Well, I decided to go out and get the latest issue for myself. And I am not only angry - I AM MAJORLY PISSED! Pat Shand has definitely shown himself to be to Paul Ruditis what Brad Kern was to Connie Burge - taken his mythology and totally twisted it and ruined it. Shand says that everything that has happened in Season 10 was due to Prue taking in the Grimoire at the end of Paul Ruditis' Season 9, leading her to become the Nexus of the All. Which she did. BUT she did not just take in the Grimoire. If she did, she would not have been able to become the Nexus (which Shand twists to be totally evil - just like in Connie's version, it's not - it's the CONNECTION between the Upper World and the Lower World. If evil controls it, it becomes evil, which is what Zankou wanted. But since good controled it, it was good which is what the Warrens (and the Johnsons and the Halliwells) wanted. In the same way, the only way Prue could become the Nexus is if she took in BOTH the Grimoire AND THE EMPIRICAL SWORD which is just as good as the Grimoire is evil! Meaning Prue always had the choice between the two. And anyone who knows Prue knows she would never choose evil. So very obviously Season 10 is just as much of an alternate universe spin-off as Seasons 4-8 are. The scene between Andy and Prue was wonderful. What happened after that was anything but. And making Cole the big hero of the whole thing because Prue put his father in Cole's body because "Well, we all know sacrifice has power. Cole sacrificed his very soul, a soul that Ben himself once died to save. Put those together and that is a powerful magical whammy" is the biggest bunch of cow manure I've ever read! I've thought from almost Day One that this whole thing was written by a Cole-fan with Cole as his Gary Stu, complete with his noble sacrificial death of his very soul - as if Cole would ever do that for Coop - Phoebe, yes, Coop?? NO WAY! ESPECIALLY when Shand's Cole wanted Phoebe for himself, unlike Ruditis' Cole), and I'm more sure of that than anything. Now this is not the end...there is still the final episode called "The Reason" which is supposed to truly explain everything. So maybe, JUST MAYBE, Pat Shand will straighten things out properly, remembering that Prue took in the Empirical Sword, too. I doubt it. I think he wants Prue gone for good so it's back to just the second three if (not likely) the comics ever continue. And if that's the case, I'll gladly have a sacrificial burning of my Season 10 issues and let my head canon be that Charmed (both real and the alternate-universe spin-off) ended with Season 9 and Paul's two e-books, "The War of the Witches" and "Let Gorgons be Gorgons". Though I understood how the questions were answered, I was also trying to figure out how sacrifice was power. I mean, I guess you can say it's a metaphor. I also feel that Prue is going to die and we'll just have the second PO3. But what has me on the fence is what can be done to undo the damage Prue has done. My theory is that somehow Prue will snap out of it and sacrifice herself and all of her powers to undo all of the damage she caused, possibly turning back time or just fixing everything that she messed with. If she dies, we will probably see her blue soul go up with Andy. But there's a possibility that if she does live, maybe that by her sacrificing her own life and powers to fix what she had done would cause "The Powers that Be" grant her Andy back in her life in a different body so that she and Andy can finally have their happy ending. I have a hunch that it's much more likely that we'll see the spirit of Andy bringing Prue back to the Other Side, which, honestly, is where she belongs anyway, unless it's like in Paul Ruditis' universe where she's stuck in the Nexus. I can't see Pat Shand letting anyone have a happy ending - just an "All right, we'll accept this, forget all about Prue like we did in S4-8 and go on." You're probably right that Shand's making a big deal out of sacrifices in order to set up Prue so that she can sacrifice herself to put everything back in order. But that won't be a good enough reason for me not to have my sacrificial burning. Nothing less than the reminder of the Empirical Sword and it was someone else, not Prue, who was causing this mess will straighten it out for me. No, if anyone gets a so-called happy ending it will be when perhaps Prue turns back time and Cole is rescued from whatever happened to him and Shand let him and Phoebe live sappily ever after, after Coop somehow sacrifices HIMSELF to let Cole live - so the ultra-special baby Phoebe is now carrying (BARF!) will be hers and Cole's rather than hers and Coop's. BARF! Oh, is he more than welcomed to make a liar out of me for THAT one! |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Jul 18, 2016 22:02:49 GMT -5
Though I understood how the questions were answered, I was also trying to figure out how sacrifice was power. I mean, I guess you can say it's a metaphor. I also feel that Prue is going to die and we'll just have the second PO3. But what has me on the fence is what can be done to undo the damage Prue has done. My theory is that somehow Prue will snap out of it and sacrifice herself and all of her powers to undo all of the damage she caused, possibly turning back time or just fixing everything that she messed with. If she dies, we will probably see her blue soul go up with Andy. But there's a possibility that if she does live, maybe that by her sacrificing her own life and powers to fix what she had done would cause "The Powers that Be" grant her Andy back in her life in a different body so that she and Andy can finally have their happy ending. I have a hunch that it's much more likely that we'll see the spirit of Andy bringing Prue back to the Other Side, which, honestly, is where she belongs anyway, unless it's like in Paul Ruditis' universe where she's stuck in the Nexus. I can't see Pat Shand letting anyone have a happy ending - just an "All right, we'll accept this, forget all about Prue like we did in S4-8 and go on." You're probably right that Shand's making a big deal out of sacrifices in order to set up Prue so that she can sacrifice herself to put everything back in order. But that won't be a good enough reason for me not to have my sacrificial burning. Nothing less than the reminder of the Empirical Sword and it was someone else, not Prue, who was causing this mess will straighten it out for me. No, if anyone gets a so-called happy ending it will be when perhaps Prue turns back time and Cole is rescued from whatever happened to him and Shand let him and Phoebe live sappily ever after, after Coop somehow sacrifices HIMSELF to let Cole live - so the ultra-special baby Phoebe is now carrying (BARF!) will be hers and Cole's rather than hers and Coop's. BARF! Oh, is he more than welcomed to make a liar out of me for THAT one! ,I think it could be cool if we saw the back of Prue's spirit but instead of her blue form, she will have her real form but we won't see her face. We will only see the faces of Andy, Patty, and Grams smiling at her. That is if she dies.. You know what I think would be cool if we go by Pat's S10? What if Belthazor did somehow escape his erase from existence and became a part of the athamae and through the athamae, he took control of Prue, causing her to do all of these evil and tragic events. Since Pat has Belthazor and Cole as two different beings, it would kind of make up for Prue being so evil lately for Belthazor to have taken over her. LMAO He definitely will not resurrect Cole. He has said this a lot unfortunately for me and other Cole fans. Ben and Kyra even went back in time and he tried to stop Cole's death by jumping in front of the athamae himself but somehow I forgot his effort was prevented. To me, Pat ruined Cole's progress from S9. Even though I always felt that he and Phoebe would've got back together, I still support S9 than S10 because so much made more sense and was planned well. I only like S10 but I LOVE S9. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jul 18, 2016 22:18:51 GMT -5
I have a hunch that it's much more likely that we'll see the spirit of Andy bringing Prue back to the Other Side, which, honestly, is where she belongs anyway, unless it's like in Paul Ruditis' universe where she's stuck in the Nexus. I can't see Pat Shand letting anyone have a happy ending - just an "All right, we'll accept this, forget all about Prue like we did in S4-8 and go on." You're probably right that Shand's making a big deal out of sacrifices in order to set up Prue so that she can sacrifice herself to put everything back in order. But that won't be a good enough reason for me not to have my sacrificial burning. Nothing less than the reminder of the Empirical Sword and it was someone else, not Prue, who was causing this mess will straighten it out for me. No, if anyone gets a so-called happy ending it will be when perhaps Prue turns back time and Cole is rescued from whatever happened to him and Shand let him and Phoebe live sappily ever after, after Coop somehow sacrifices HIMSELF to let Cole live - so the ultra-special baby Phoebe is now carrying (BARF!) will be hers and Cole's rather than hers and Coop's. BARF! Oh, is he more than welcomed to make a liar out of me for THAT one! ,I think it could be cool if we saw the back of Prue's spirit but instead of her blue form, she will have her real form but we won't see her face. We will only see the faces of Andy, Patty, and Grams smiling at her. That is if she dies.. You know what I think would be cool if we go by Pat's S10? What if Belthazor did somehow escape his erase from existence and became a part of the athamae and through the athamae, he took control of Prue, causing her to do all of these evil and tragic events. Since Pat has Belthazor and Cole as two different beings, it would kind of make up for Prue being so evil lately for Belthazor to have taken over her. LMAO He definitely will not resurrect Cole. He has said this a lot unfortunately for me and other Cole fans. Ben and Kyra even went back in time and he tried to stop Cole's death by jumping in front of the athamae himself but somehow I forgot his effort was prevented. To me, Pat ruined Cole's progress from S9. Even though I always felt that he and Phoebe would've got back together, I still support S9 than S10 because so much made more sense and was planned well. I only like S10 but I LOVE S9. And I have said from the start that I don't believe Shand when he says he'd never bring Cole back - maybe he won't *resurrect* him, but turning back time and having something else happen so he and Phoebe can live sappily ever after would *not* be resurrecting him. I LOVE your idea of Belthazor being in the athame and being behind all of it! I must admit, even though I am angry at Shand for trying to absolve Cole of all his sins because he and Belthazor are *not* the same being (yes, they are - and he's much more Belthazor, having been that for almost 100 years - than he is Cole the lawyer, the only Cole who Phoebe will ever love, the same way Piper will never love Leo the angel, only Leo her little errand boy.), were he to use that as "the Reason" I could accept it. I'd still have my sacrificial burning since I still wouldn't want it to be part of my head canon (as a Cole fan, I can see why you would - I'm much more a Belthazor fan...), but I could accept it. I just have a hunch we won't be that lucky... |
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Post by cyma on Jul 20, 2016 14:30:10 GMT -5
The cover art for the finale:  If Phoebe and Paige holding two soul orbs are supposed to represent their souls, then Piper seems kinda screwed considering what happened in the last issue and also since she has the soul-killing athame pointed right above her. But atleast she's holding the Grimoire. So a dying Piper going inside Prue's mind to finally snap Prue out of it and destroy the Grimoire may just happen  |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Jul 23, 2016 16:29:03 GMT -5
The cover art for the finale: If Phoebe and Paige holding two soul orbs are supposed to represent their souls, then Piper seems kinda screwed considering what happened in the last issue and also since she has the soul-killing athame pointed right above her. But atleast she's holding the Grimoire. So a dying Piper going inside Prue's mind to finally snap Prue out of it and destroy the Grimoire may just happen On Charmedcomicfan10's website, a fan theorized that the souls Phoebe and Paige are holding are actually two parts of Piper's soul. But can I say this? I really feel like Prue has literally been destroyed. I mean yes, this is a good storyline, but Pat has wrote it that Prue isn't influenced or possessed, but that she is actually evil. She has got to be influenced by Heremus and the Grimoire. Does anyone agree with me? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:13:18 GMT -5
I'll say this about the comics, the cover art has always been excellent. The stories may be rubbish, but the art on the covers always depicts the sisters the way they should look.
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Post by StoryGirl83 on Jul 23, 2016 17:50:32 GMT -5
I'll say this about the comics, the cover art has always been excellent. The stories may be rubbish, but the art on the covers always depicts the sisters the way they should look. David Seidman is very talented and his covers have just gotten better as the years have gone along. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 0:30:39 GMT -5
I know. However, the same could not be said for a couple of the artists that did the actual comics. In many cases, at least to me, those drawings looked less like the Charmed Ones than a police artist's sketches would have.
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Post by cyma on Aug 5, 2016 3:34:03 GMT -5
I really feel like Prue has literally been destroyed. I mean yes, this is a good storyline, but Pat has wrote it that Prue isn't influenced or possessed, but that she is actually evil. She has got to be influenced by Heremus and the Grimoire. Does anyone agree with me? I never got the impression Pat Shand made it seem like Prue was actually evil when I read the issue. While Patience was literally the only one closest to Prue to know what happened inside of her, it also seemed like she harbored resentment about her body possession and then later eviction of her soul by Prue. Even Andy and Paige disagreed about Patience's conclusion about Prue now being evil. And I actually like that Pat Shand showed different characters having different point of views about Prue being evil or not. And even Prue's POV about different characters opinion about her and her own opinion of herself  The only fault of Prue I see is not properly being able to move on after her death. Even after the Angel of Destiny allowed her into Heaven, she claimed since she never fulfilled her Charmed destiny, she was never at peace. She ended up acting like an angry earth-bound spirit, being angry and snapping at her dead family memebers and Andy. It's only when she returned to life by possessing what she believed was an empty comatose body of Patience did she feel fine and whole again. How was she supposed to know what would happen later on? That she would become the Nexus of All? She didn't even know she was the Nexus of All until Kyra told her. How was she supposed to know the full capabilities of a evil Book which was now a part of her? That it was reaching out for something old and powerful for a very long time and was subconsciously affecting her to make what it wanted a reality? Also seeing Prue is the Nexus, the danger of being controlled and fully swayed had always been there. And while Heremus was destroyed, the remnants of his hatred and power were so powerful that they swayed her to side evil. If Prue had been just vaguely connected to the Nexus like Phoebe, maybe she would've had a fighting chance. But she is the Nexus and she just got fully swayed. Now all that's left to do is to sway her back to side good and hopefully remove the Grimoire somehow. |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Aug 6, 2016 16:14:03 GMT -5
I really feel like Prue has literally been destroyed. I mean yes, this is a good storyline, but Pat has wrote it that Prue isn't influenced or possessed, but that she is actually evil. She has got to be influenced by Heremus and the Grimoire. Does anyone agree with me? I never got the impression Pat Shand made it seem like Prue was actually evil when I read the issue. While Patience was literally the only one closest to Prue to know what happened inside of her, it also seemed like she harbored resentment about her body possession and then later eviction of her soul by Prue. Even Andy and Paige disagreed about Patience's conclusion about Prue now being evil. And I actually like that Pat Shand showed different characters having different point of views about Prue being evil or not. And even Prue's POV about different characters opinion about her and her own opinion of herself The only fault of Prue I see is not properly being able to move on after her death. Even after the Angel of Destiny allowed her into Heaven, she claimed since she never fulfilled her Charmed destiny, she was never at peace. She ended up acting like an angry earth-bound spirit, being angry and snapping at her dead family memebers and Andy. It's only when she returned to life by possessing what she believed was an empty comatose body of Patience did she feel fine and whole again. How was she supposed to know what would happen later on? That she would become the Nexus of All? She didn't even know she was the Nexus of All until Kyra told her. How was she supposed to know the full capabilities of a evil Book which was now a part of her? That it was reaching out for something old and powerful for a very long time and was subconsciously affecting her to make what it wanted a reality? Also seeing Prue is the Nexus, the danger of being controlled and fully swayed had always been there. And while Heremus was destroyed, the remnants of his hatred and power were so powerful that they swayed her to side evil. If Prue had been just vaguely connected to the Nexus like Phoebe, maybe she would've had a fighting chance. But she is the Nexus and she just got fully swayed. Now all that's left to do is to sway her back to side good and hopefully remove the Grimoire somehow. I like your analysis on Prue and the situation. Actually, I have to correct myself because Pat responded to me and explained to me that what Patience basically said was Prue was being influenced by both the Nexus of the All and The Grimoire. His response, along with Paul Ruditis', is something that I really enjoyed sometimes because they were willing to respond to fans and give explanations on things. He admitted that the issue had to be condensed and I believe thats why some fans and I weren't able to fully understand what was going on. |
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Post by cyma on Aug 8, 2016 8:25:58 GMT -5
I like your analysis on Prue and the situation. Actually, I have to correct myself because Pat responded to me and explained to me that what Patience basically said was Prue was being influenced by both the Nexus of the All and The Grimoire. His response, along with Paul Ruditis', is something that I really enjoyed sometimes because they were willing to respond to fans and give explanations on things. He admitted that the issue had to be condensed and I believe thats why some fans and I weren't able to fully understand what was going on. I really feel like season 10 should've been a novel so the characters' thoughts and feelings could've been explored properly. Especially new ones like Ben. It's really awesome of both Pat and Paul to answer fan questions. Thinking of maybe asking one question just for the sake of asking Anyways, there's another Prue thing I've realized. Cole mentioned in season 9 that perhaps it's not the prophecy holding her back but rather Prue herself who can't let go. Even if she stripped her powers to let Piper, Phoebe and Paige continue as Charmed Ones, she never really dealt with the whole moving on and accepting her death. Kyra later on says that because of this, Prue, without meaning to, was reaching out to what she lost. Being a Charmed One, being a part of the Power of Three. And the Nexus inside of her began to make that wish a reality. The Power of Three however resisted that and it resulted in her sisters being unable to be around her without feeling immense pain. When Prue swayed to team evil, her desire changed to Heremus homicidal desire to destroy the world. But the end result is the same as before, hurting her sisters. So even if she's swayed back to good, Prue would still be indirectly hurting her sisters. So I wonder what exactly will be the ultimate solution if she can't either be good or evil? Moving on? Letting go?  |
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Post by charmedagain4 on Aug 8, 2016 17:55:47 GMT -5
_OMG You guys! I think I found as close a Shannen Doherty image in the comics since the first Sourcebook! I looked at Patience in issue 21 of season 9 and I found something so familiar. I studied the picture for a moment and then BOOM! I saw the REAL Prue! Paul Ruditis is the best!   I can't believe how similar it is to Shannen Doherty, right down to her pose, face, and even nose. It's so cool how the artists did that! And to me, that's as much as we would see Prue in her real form. I guess looking at herself in the mirror gave us a view of the REAL Prue with blond hair. |
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Post by Chris on Aug 8, 2016 18:51:42 GMT -5
Hmm, it's funny because I have all the Season 9 comic's, but I have yet to buy one comic issue from "Season 10" and I don't think I will. I will admit, I did love what Paul did with Charmed. I can go through his arc and enjoy every bit of it and I even use some of his idea's and incorporated them into my own Charmed fanfics(except the fact that Henry Jr was adopted as Paige and Henry's foster son... I don't use that) but as for Season 10? To me the "Season 10" comics just sounds ridiculous. I love that Kyra came back only because I use her in my fanfics as well(way before "Prue brought Kyra back") but as for everything else... I just can't with it.
So yeah, I knew there was a reason I've never touched an issue of "Season 10" and I never will. But I do hope that everyone who enjoys the comics enjoys Season 10 because everyone deserves to feel what they want to feel on the subject.
I for one will not be.
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