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Post by unakite on Sept 15, 2016 22:34:26 GMT -5
Melinda told that her lineage would reach its peak with the arrival of three sisters
Prudence Piper and Phoebe were the peak, the Warren family hit the mark
It took over 300 years because the Power of Yhree came along, it is not a whatever power, it will require other generation to create again the perfect balance
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Post by Granny Charmed on Sept 15, 2016 22:49:14 GMT -5
I think like you, it is the sisterhood the quality brand of Charmed The Triquetra is their personification because it represents a perfect balance, the balance between the personalities of the sisters, so could never be used as a symbol by their descendants I'm afraid I can't agree with that. If one of the sisters had three daughters who were each born under the proper sign, not necessarily the same as their mother, but so their sign fit their power and they had the proper three powers, then I think that the Triquetra would also fit them and they would also be Charmed. I think our writing staff dear didn't do the research properly. I often felt some of the signs never fitted the sisters properly. I was quite curious so I went and look at some sites and thought it was interesting to share with everyone dears. Other sites and a few other additions I found dears. I must admit I am curious about how Charmed adapted the concepts and how it fits against true Wicca history.
In the first episode dears - We are told about The Three Essentials of Magic; timing, feeling, and the phases of the moon, and were never brought up again. Shouldn't this be Body, Mind and Soul and matching those three to each sister. Triquetra represents the elements of earth, water and air - so I am not sure how these match with the sisters dears. It won't match up correctly given the star signs of the sisters. *sigh* Earth Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn Air Gemini, Libra, Aquarius Water Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces This was fun. I hope a reboot of Charmed will *correctly* match up the sisters well enough with their signs. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 15, 2016 23:34:14 GMT -5
*nods* I do, too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 2:08:24 GMT -5
That's interesting, Granny, as my idea of the Po3 being Grams, Patty and Prue fits perfectly with the symbolism of the Triquetra - the maiden, mother and crone, that is.
"Prue", in this instance, could've been a bit younger and more Phoebe-like (as she was at 17-years-old in 'Be Care What You Witch For') and, although she'd be somewhat rebellious, she would in fact be very innocent to the 'The Real World'. Also - as in the real series - she would've been kept in the dark about her powers by Patty and Grams.
Patty was already portrayed with near folk hero status in the series so she fits nicely into the 'eternal mother' role - a role which Piper inhabited in the actual series. I definitely see Patty as being most like Piper had she lived (not sarcastic and bitchy, though, but the Piper of S1-2).
And finally, Grams is very obviously the matriarch of the family and she who everyone looks to for guidance, especially relating to the craft.
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Post by ShadowCat on Sept 16, 2016 8:24:19 GMT -5
Melinda told that her lineage would reach its peak with the arrival of three sisters Prudence Piper and Phoebe were the peak, the Warren family hit the mark It took over 300 years because the Power of Yhree came along, it is not a whatever power, it will require other generation to create again the perfect balance Perhaps, but I have to wonder why it would take as much time for another set of Charmed Ones to regroup. I look at this like climbing Mount Everest. If a man and a woman made the journey and could find a way to remain there, and they had children they would not have to climb to reach the top, they would already be there. It would naturally be their home and they would have been taught to deal with the dangers and pitfalls of such a life. If Phoebe had three daughters, I'm sure she would be wondering if they were the next in line to carry on. Either way I would hope that she along with her surviving siblings would be teaching the girls how to use and grow with the powers they did have so as not to be short changed as their mother and aunts were in the world of magic. Charmed or not, I don't see evil going on vacation. In fact with the direction the world is going in I see it getting worse, with or without the source. Unless the planet we reside on suddenly becomes a Peaceable Kingdom where the services of powerful good are no longer needed, one might hope that The Charmed One's line would at least remain constant, but hopefully grow. stronger. Melinda's prophesy to me is finite, and I find that confusing. Unless the time period the sister's lived in was expected to be the worst the world has even known their existance become trivial. I have wondered often if Melinda's vision into the future was something she saw or was it what she was told. The girls were sent back in time to do what exactly? At first viewing I thought it was for them to understand about how they came to be, and to take an interest in the old ways of magic. (Note: I would have liked to see more of them using their abilities mixed with the history lessons they were given. Sadly we had little of that.) After watching "All Halliwell's Eve" a few more times I then pondered if that journey was a two way street. If the girls had not been there for Charlotte, would Melinda become who she was? Seems to me she might have ended up working for the other side. Then we have Charlotte telling them that her daughter will learn of the sister witches that helped to bring her into the world, so did she have a vision of a time and place 300 years into the future, or was much of what she said just bringing forth a known fact? If they had known about Paige, and she had gone with them would the prophesy then be four sisters? Please understand that I am not trying to dismiss Melinda's powers, I'm just attempting to make some sense out of this in my own head. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Sept 18, 2016 12:41:45 GMT -5
I think this would make for a very interesting reboot, but I'd prefer you using the idea of three or four sisters with each having the proper birthdate to have the proper sign that fits their power. As soon as you take away the idea of sisterhood, you take away what made Charmed different than most other witch shows and was what I found most appealing. If you took that away, I sincerely don't think I would enjoy the show. I think like you, it is the sisterhood the quality brand of Charmed The Triquetra is their personification because it represents a perfect balance, the balance between the personalities of the sisters, so could never be used as a symbol by their descendants I can't agree with that. The oldest always had the strongest power and was the strongest, so no way you can say they were in balance. Phoebe and her powers were never in balance with the others. I think if any of them had three daughters with Melinda Warren's three powers (or if Wyatt or Chris had three daughters with the requisite powers), they could and should become Charmed with the Triquetra as their symbol. It had just never happened before, the reason they made the three 1920's witches cousins rather than sisters. If the Triquetra means balance, then neither set was Charmed. |
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Post by unakite on Sept 20, 2016 4:59:26 GMT -5
The cultural anthropological significance of the Triquetra is the power that comes from an harmonious fusion
In the image, the center is the point of equilibrium in which the powers have equal value
The most part of the symbols and the magical creatures of the first three seasons were created by Robert Masello,author of two popular studies of black magic and the occult, Fallen Angels and Spirits of the Dark and Raising Hell: A Concise History of the Black Arts and Those Who Dared to Practice Them.
He is an expert on ancient cultures and that is the reasons why I think he took inspiration from the Triquetra of the White Goddess
The balance is linked to what the sisters represent, not their powers: protection - Prue - tenderness- Piper - intuition - Phoebe
The perfection comes when these qualities blend into one another. and from this comes the unique trength of the Power of Three
It should be something difficult and rare to be generated, three sisters are not enough, or so many other Warren women before Patty would try to have three daughters
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Post by erikamarie on Sept 21, 2016 9:34:09 GMT -5
I like this interpretation linked to the personality other than to sisters's powers because it adapts to my belief that the Power of Three was not enough against the Source because it was weakened by Prue's absence
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