Charmed Theories

[cyma]

Found some really interesting Charmed Theories here: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/Charmed

The Triad has Cole's father's soul because they wanted to stop him from being reborn.

Reincarnation is mentioned frequently in the series. Phoebe also says that Cole's father had done a lot of good things when he was alive. The Triad (or the Source, or some other demon) could have intercepted his soul after he died to prevent him from either becoming a Whitelighter or being reborn and doing more good in the world. Cole could have made his deal with the Triad so he could release his father's soul.

Higher forces were responsible for Piper and Phoebe's career successes.

Because the forces of good wanted to make sure they had enough money to keep the house.

Coop, or some other Cupid, was responsible for Phoebe's relationship with Cole being a failure.


After the Source was gone, everything would have worked out fine if Phoebe had been willing to use the resurrection spell so Cole didn't have to gather demonic powers, or if they had been able to strip his powers without empowering some other demon, or just if Phoebe hadn't taken a level in jerkass. We've seen that Cupid rings can be used to not only encourage someone to enter a relationship, but also to steer them away from relationships. We also know that at least one Cupid turned a mortal woman's love away from a demon (Drazi) and towards someone else. Phoebe suddenly hating Cole in Season 5 was the result of a Cupid who thought her being involved with a man who had previously been the Source was a very bad idea, who kept entering Phoebe's mind and hissing "He's evil, he'll always be evil, tell him to leave you alone!" everytime she saw him. Coop might have had his eye on Phoebe long before he met her and orchestrated her entire rejection of Cole in an effort to Murder the Hypotenuse.

Billie was born from the Nexus being destroyed.

Billie is a reality warper and has all sorts of powers despite her young age. She also appeared out of nowhere at the beginning of the eighth season. She could have been born from the Nexus energies and used Prue as a basis to get close to the sisters. She might have also created a connection with Paige to become her charge. Billie then created a past for herself so that she would connect to humanity easier. After being exposed to the sisters and feeling angry at their selfish ways, she subconsciously created Christy and even manipulated demons to think that they had held her captive for years.

I could totally buy into the Billie theory, especially seeing how the Triad suddenly became some kind of Big Bad threat every demon and Elders were so afraid of. These guys got easily vanquished by a bleeding to death Cole. One Triad member also froze time and the Charmed Ones to have a secret chat with Christy.

[Miranda Turner]

Wow! That Billie one is quite interesting. Never heard such a cool one.

[sol]

I like Cupid theory: maybe the Elders feared a return of Cole in Phoebe's life and a potential child

Cole's action against the attempt of the Elders to remove Leo from Piper's lifer may have again concerned the Elders do prudently they send Coop

[magena]

I think this is very intriguing

The Charmed Ones were the real targets for Shax to kill in All Hell Breaks Loose





In the Book of Shadows, Shax is described as the Source's personal assassin, who is only called for top assignments. Sending Shax to kill a normal mortal doctor seems like an overkill for a demon of that stature. However, the Charmed Ones would be considered high profile targets, and since they have to defend an innocent as well, all the better to increase the chances of success. The Source could somehow sent Phoebe a false premonition in order to get the Charmed Ones involved, ensuring they would be in conflict with the demon.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Dec 5, 2016 15:23:04 GMT -5 magena said:

I think this is very intriguing

The Charmed Ones were the real targets for Shax to kill in All Hell Breaks Loose





In the Book of Shadows, Shax is described as the Source's personal assassin, who is only called for top assignments. Sending Shax to kill a normal mortal doctor seems like an overkill for a demon of that stature. However, the Charmed Ones would be considered high profile targets, and since they have to defend an innocent as well, all the better to increase the chances of success. The Source could somehow sent Phoebe a false premonition in order to get the Charmed Ones involved, ensuring they would be in conflict with the demon.

This is interesting indeed.

[magena]

A fake premonition'ld be a sure way to bait the sisters: they didn't know why the doctor was in danger nor they wonder about this

I think it's a good theory

[lordumbrex]

When it comes to Shax, my theory is this: he was sent for Dr. Griffiths because, prior to the events of the episode, the Oracle saw him nearly saving Piper after being shot. The Oracle's visions were said to be less powerful and accurate, so she saw the doctor working on Piper, believed there was a chance that he would save Piper, and told the Source about the possibility, who then sent Shax after the doctor. She didn't see any context for it, just Piper being worked on by a doctor, so she had no idea it would be her actions that led to Piper being shot in the first place. As such, the Source was unaware that by allowing Tempus to reverse time, he'd be reversing the need to kill Dr. Griffiths in the first place.

It was all because the Oracle wasn't as powerful as the Seer is why I think Shax went after the doctor. She lacked context, only saw Piper in the hospital being worked on by the doctor, so acted on it. Like they said in the show itself, "you've saved someone or will save someone" that the Source wanted dead. Dr. Griffiths was simply a victim of a bad, context-less vision.

[Granny Charmed]

Dec 6, 2016 10:54:33 GMT -5 magena said:

A fake premonition'ld be a sure way to bait the sisters: they didn't know why the doctor was in danger nor they wonder about this

I think it's a good theory

I like this one dear. It does make sense in a way.

[sol]

About Cupid's theory: the more I think the more I like


Phoebe's pregnancy must have scared the Elders and the developments of the story have convinced them that a romance between an ex Source and a Charmed One'ld produce huge result

After being deceived and manipulated to create an evil offspring, I'ld not need supernatural help to close with Cole, maybe Phoebe'ld
And a little help from a cupid'ld be a good idea


In The seven year witch, Phoebe feels Cole's presence, evidently their bond is still strong and perhaps the Limbo where Cole was living was not so hermetic
Cole upset the plans of the Elders to keep Leo, the Elders may have think that Cole'ld still be a problem in the future: better to move forward with the work, and, seeing that in all those years Phoebe had not been in love with anyone, that's come on the scene Coop with the blessing of the Elders

Positively logic

[cyma]

I think this Cupid may have been whispering not only in Phoebe's ears but the rest of the family too. It's like they completely forgot they all would've been dead had Cole not taken the Hollow and saved their powerless not to mention about to be incinerated butts from the Source. Before that, Cole saved Piper from throwing away her powers while trapped in a mental asylum illusion. Even from the beyond the grave, Cole saved Phoebe's ass from getting shot by a witch hunter at the end of season 4. And suddenly in season 5: "OMG! You're evil! Evil is in your blood! Stay the hell away from me!"

I'm also thinking Phoebe's sudden celebrity status career in not even a year working at Bay Mirror might have some divine intervention too. We saw how Leo gave life to Piper's failure of a club in season 2.

For Phoebe, a successful career meant a big distraction which would keep her away from Cole. But the plan spectacularly backfired. Phoebe not only stopped caring about Cole, but saving innocents as well.

To correct their epic disaster, the Elders finally send down Coop. Though how exactly giving Phoebe the daughter she insanely wanted by sending Coop would result in her caring about innocents is beyond me. Motherhood would do the exact opposite.

But seeing as Phoebe's daughter was destined and the Elders interference in Phoebe's love life would've messed with her destiny, the Elders in their desperation, dispatched the Clueless Coop. After all to the paragons of good, a Cupid was better than Cole any day.

[Esmeralda]

Dec 10, 2016 10:38:05 GMT -5 cyma said:

I think this Cupid may have been whispering not only in Phoebe's ears but the rest of the family too. It's like they completely forgot they all would've been dead had Cole not taken the Hollow and saved their powerless not to mention about to be incinerated butts from the Source. Before that, Cole saved Piper from throwing away her powers while trapped in a mental asylum illusion. Even from the beyond the grave, Cole saved Phoebe's ass from getting shot by a witch hunter at the end of season 4. And suddenly in season 5: "OMG! You're evil! Evil is in your blood! Stay the hell away from me!"

I'm also thinking Phoebe's sudden celebrity status career in not even a year working at Bay Mirror might have some divine intervention too. We saw how Leo gave life to Piper's failure of a club in season 2.

For Phoebe, a successful career meant a big distraction which would keep her away from Cole. But the plan spectacularly backfired. Phoebe not only stopped caring about Cole, but saving innocents as well.

To correct their epic disaster, the Elders finally send down Coop. Though how exactly giving Phoebe the daughter she insanely wanted by sending Coop would result in her caring about innocents is beyond me. Motherhood would do the exact opposite.

But seeing as Phoebe's daughter was destined and the Elders interference in Phoebe's love life would've messed with her destiny, the Elders in their desperation, dispatched the Clueless Coop. After all to the paragons of good, a Cupid was better than Cole any day.

I think it just proves that whatever the Elders were, they weren't archangels. They had absolutely no clue regarding human emotions and motivations, just like the one who created them obviously didn't. *looking pointedly at Brad Kern who turned Connie's "They" into his Elders*

[magena]

I like this recreation!

In this case, I'ld agree with the Elders'strategy, Cole and Phoebe's reationship was bearer of trouble,and their concerns about a possible son were understandable

The Elders are not archangels, in Charmed religions don't appear, but magical creatures who try to govern the magic and a Cole and Phoebe's son'ld be a seriuos future problem

[unakite]

I think this Cupid may have been whispering not only in Phoebe's ears but the rest of the family too. It's like they completely forgot they all would've been dead had Cole not taken the Hollow and saved their powerless not to mention about to be incinerated butts from the Source. Before that, Cole saved Piper from throwing away her powers while trapped in a mental asylum illusion. Even from the beyond the grave, Cole saved Phoebe's ass from getting shot by a witch hunter at the end of season 4. And suddenly in season 5: "OMG! You're evil! Evil is in your blood! Stay the hell away from me!"

by cyma

Maybe Cole was trying to make up some attempt to kill the sisters, the suffering caused to Prue who was dying of pain and to Paige
I believe that a cupid was not necessary : the husband who married her by fraud, impregnated by deception,  has hidden an event as his takeover as a Source, could have no expectation to make a fresh start as if nothing had happened
However, I consider reasonable  the idea of an Elders intervention to avoided further problems
If Gideon had talked of his doubts about Wyatt with his colleagues, maybe he made different choices

[cyma]

Aug 22, 2017 13:49:23 GMT -5 thesonandheir said:

I was thinking about how they never figured out cole was Balthazar then because I would have figured it out because cole comes into the manor says he's going to use the bathroom then prue and phoebe go up to the attic and there's Balthazar trying to get the book of shadows I mean how did they not figure it out?

Here are a few reasons Prue and Phoebe couldn't figure it out:


-In the first episode of season 3, Phoebe had a premonition of Cole unconscious and about to be killed by a mortal murderer.

-Phoebe then saved Cole from the mortal murderer. Neither she nor the guy about to kill him knew he wouldn't be killed so easily.

-When Piper froze the court room, everyone except demons and mortals possessed by Guardian demons froze. Cole was among the frozen innocents. Even though he later broke through Piper’s freeze and just pretended to be frozen.
No one saw him shimmer out and reappear after a few seconds. He also pretended to be hurt when Phoebe hit him on the head to try and cover up what really happened.

-Phoebe had no premonitions or even nightmares of Cole turning into a demon and killing her and her sisters. Interestingly, Cole had dream of killing Phoebe, planted by a Triad guy.

So there was no reason for Phoebe and Prue to figure out or even suspect Cole and Belthazor were the same just because they saw Belthazor in the attic try to steal the Book right after they let Cole use the bathroom.

They didn't even know the name 'Belthazor' until later on in the Sight Unseen episode. It's then when Prue found him unconscious in the crystal cage that she began to suspect Cole maybe not what he seemed.

It's surprising that neither Leo nor the Elders could figure out Cole's identity. While Cole easily figured out who Leo was by merely shaking his hand the first time. Not to mention Cole was easily able to connect the dots and figure out Piper was about to marry Leo. Something which was forbidden by the Elders. Elders in their wrath of dragging Leo away to punish him, didn't even consider how, why and which demon was behind figuring this out and whether he was a threat or not. 

Even after Cole traveled back in time to help turn baby Melinda Warren evil, Elders still remained clueless about it. 

[gzv969]

Dec 5, 2016 18:20:07 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

Dec 5, 2016 15:23:04 GMT -5 magena said:

I think this is very intriguing

This is interesting indeed.

I used to think Shax was just dumb and loved to attack wherever and whenever but I started to think about it. Shax directive may have been to attack their innocents until he pushed them to attack him in the open. His job may have been to lure the charmed ones out into the open to expose them. For all we know the Sources Oracle could have foreseen what the exposure would do to them and that a charmed one would die.

[Esmeralda]

Aug 28, 2017 17:02:13 GMT -5 gzv969 said:

Dec 5, 2016 18:20:07 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

This is interesting indeed.

I used to think Shax was just dumb and loved to attack wherever and whenever but I started to think about it. Shax directive may have been to attack their innocents until he pushed them to attack him in the open. His job may have been to lure the charmed ones out into the open to expose them. For all we know the Sources Oracle could have foreseen what the exposure would do to them and that a charmed one would die.

I always thought that Shax just went after whomever the Source told him to go after. But you could very well be correct.

[Granny Charmed]

What a great theory dear. I did wonder if perhaps the doctor wasn't even important, but just used as part of a plan to get the sisters exposed, or in turn for Phoebe to make her deal. So the Source could have all of them killed.

[gzv969]

Aug 28, 2017 21:02:30 GMT -5 Granny Charmed said:

What a great theory dear. I did wonder if perhaps the doctor wasn't even important, but just used as part of a plan to get the sisters exposed, or in turn for Phoebe to make her deal. So the Source could have all of them killed.

The fact that the source knew piper was about to die was indication that he knew how everything was to unravel. And as he doesn't have the power of premonition then the Oracle had to have told him everything and what to do to make it happen.

[sol]

I'ld bet that the doctor was a fake target, to push out in the open the sisters

[adzpower]

I think we're giving The Source too much credit here, he showed himself to be completely inept with every plan he implemented. I just think he got lucky when when he sent his assassin after the doctor and got Prue as well.