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Post by charmedagain4 on Dec 14, 2016 1:20:44 GMT -5
Remember Tyler, the fire-starter from Lost and Bound? ![]()  The episode was when the sisters protected him from demons who wanted to use his powers for evil. Piper was the one who took care of him in most of the episode. At first, I saw this as just Piper protecting an innocent, but soon enough, I think it was like a mother/son bond between them. Piper could relate to Tyler, almost like he was a product of her.  After interacting with Tyler, Piper connected with him about having a power that he can't control, but she told him that eventually he will be able to. She felt that if Grams didn't bind their powers, their lives would've been easier and they'd be having less trouble with everything. To see if he can control his powers, she told him to go ahead.   Tyler seemed to connect to Piper as well because she related to him and treated him like he was her own son. He came to defend her very quickly when his demon adoptive parents attacked Piper. ![]()  It came to the point that I thought he would call her mom at the end of the episode before he ran out of the kitchen. The part that really made me realize that Piper felt a bond with Tyler was when she and Leo were thrown out of the gates by the demon and she had to get back in to save Tyler. She kept blasting the door, despite it not moving. Even after a spell was cast, it didn't budge. After hearing Tyler yell, Piper seemed to really unleash her power to save him. She literally blew the gates open and headed straight through while her sisters were shocked by her strength and determination. Their bond really makes me cry and what makes it worse is this video. I feel like Piper should've adopted Tyler and maybe her and the family could've taught him how to handle his powers.  What do you guys think? |
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Post by sol on Dec 14, 2016 1:34:24 GMT -5
I'ld like it, I like that episode
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Dec 14, 2016 16:29:11 GMT -5
I thought Lost And Bound was a good episode to and liked Piper's interaction with Tyler and how they related to one another somewhat almost like a mother and son or he a younger nephew if not.
The only thing that bugged me was Piper binding his powers knowing full well years later during reruns she wouldn't do so for her own son who messed up her powers and conjured a dragon no less who clearly needed that then also.
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Post by adzpower on Dec 14, 2016 19:11:01 GMT -5
Oh God no, let's be honest, kids are part of what ruined the show in later seasons, we don't need one earlier than we got thank you very much.
BUT it was a nice episode, great to see the caring side of Piper back albeit temporarily before she reverted back to heartless shrew again, Prue's death really turned her and Phoebe into such unlikeable characters.
But it was nice seeing her relate to Tyler.
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Post by sol on Dec 20, 2016 1:20:39 GMT -5
I liked the episode- and the doll! - and I'ld like to have some news from Tyler, in season 8 he'ld be about fifteen, a firestarted'ld be interesting for Christy
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2016 8:52:03 GMT -5
I liked the episode- and the doll! - and I'ld like to have some news from Tyler, in season 8 he'ld be about fifteen, a firestarted'ld be interesting for Christy He's part of the comics, but I can't say I like how he was used in S10 - but then I didn't really like how anyone besides Kyra and Andy were used in S10. But you're right, using him in S8 - especially reminding the sisters that they didn't have to murder the Jenkinses - all they had to do was bind their powers like Piper did with Tyler - would've been great. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Dec 20, 2016 8:57:22 GMT -5
I thought Lost And Bound was a good episode to and liked Piper's interaction with Tyler and how they related to one another somewhat almost like a mother and son or he a younger nephew if not. The only thing that bugged me was Piper binding his powers knowing full well years later during reruns she wouldn't do so for her own son who messed up her powers and conjured a dragon no less who clearly needed that then also. You are so right about that - she learned absolutely nothing about mothering a powerful son from her experiences with Tyler. Had she been the mother to Wyatt that she was to Tyler, I doubt if he would've ever turned evil, since Gideon would've had no reason to kill him and other demonic creatures would have no interest in him. She was a crappy mother to both Wyatt and Chris. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Dec 20, 2016 19:05:38 GMT -5
I liked the episode- and the doll! - and I'ld like to have some news from Tyler, in season 8 he'ld be about fifteen, a firestarted'ld be interesting for Christy He's part of the comics, but I can't say I like how he was used in S10 - but then I didn't really like how anyone besides Kyra and Andy were used in S10. But you're right, using him in S8 - especially reminding the sisters that they didn't have to murder the Jenkinses - all they had to do was bind their powers like Piper did with Tyler - would've been great. That would of been great to see in Season 8 dear. Especially binding their powers, the same way the did that to those three dirty blondes. |
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Post by Polarity on Jan 30, 2017 20:07:42 GMT -5
I loved this episode. I would have like to have seen Tyler come back in later seasons to show how well he's doing and maybe to unbind his powers because he thinks he's ready for that. They said they found him a family not too far away, so I always thought they should bring him back.
I think it was different for Piper in binding his powers and not binding Wyatt's, cause Wyatt was actually her son. I always thought that she just changed her opinion by that time, because I thought of that too. I just always assumed that is what happened.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 27, 2018 5:48:12 GMT -5
Piper didn't want to bind Tyler's powers, she only did so because he wanted that for himself and she wasn't his mother. It would be interesting if Piper and Leo adopted Tyler. I think Piper was a great mother especially to Chris since we weren't really shown her relationship with older Wyatt other than Forever Charmed and Imaginary Friends but I always felt Piper was closer to Chris and Leo was closer to Wyatt, at least in the Unchanged Future.
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Post by Elle Em on Feb 27, 2018 8:38:01 GMT -5
If they really wanted to include kids in the show, it might have been interesting to do so with Tyler or someone like him. That way, perhaps having babies of their own, or wanting to in Phoebe's case, could be put off a few years. The idea of them becoming mothers and aunts has great potential for character development, but wasn't handled well in the show. This way they could be motherly without having it completely take over their identities. The same could have been true if Aviva had stuck around, or we had a character like Jenny (but not someone so irritating), who was a relative of a boyfriend and who was looking for people who could act as big sisters for her.
I preferred no kids at all, but the idea of them adopting an older kid like Tyler or being involved in someone else's life as an aunt-like figure or as some kind of role model was appealing.
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Post by Esmeralda on Feb 27, 2018 8:53:18 GMT -5
That's the problem. The show didn't know how to do kids. Tyler and Aviva were the only ones even halfway tolerable.
It would've been nice if both Tyler and Aviva had come back at the same time and become part of the family so the sisters could be motherly without being mothers to babies. Had Tyler been the one who came back from the future rather than Chris...
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Post by Sasha on Feb 27, 2018 19:06:13 GMT -5
If they really wanted to include kids in the show, it might have been interesting to do so with Tyler or someone like him. That way, perhaps having babies of their own, or wanting to in Phoebe's case, could be put off a few years. The idea of them becoming mothers and aunts has great potential for character development, but wasn't handled well in the show. This way they could be motherly without having it completely take over their identities. The same could have been true if Aviva had stuck around, or we had a character like Jenny (but not someone so irritating), who was a relative of a boyfriend and who was looking for people who could act as big sisters for her. I preferred no kids at all, but the idea of them adopting an older kid like Tyler or being involved in someone else's life as an aunt-like figure or as some kind of role model was appealing. Piper was having problems conceiving children in S4 if I recall or am I thinking wrong? and how suspicious that just when they decided to keep their powers do we find out Piper is pregnant. What would happen if she couldn't have children in S4 or they stuck with that theme for a little longer and just adopted Tyler instead? |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Feb 27, 2018 19:09:12 GMT -5
That's the problem. The show didn't know how to do kids. Tyler and Aviva were the only ones even halfway tolerable. It would've been nice if both Tyler and Aviva had come back at the same time and become part of the family so the sisters could be motherly without being mothers to babies. Had Tyler been the one who came back from the future rather than Chris... That actually gives me an idea for my rewrite of the series. What if Tyler comes back with Chris? He'd be a lot older obviously but he wants to help save Wyatt because Piper helped Tyler when he needed a guide and a mother and he remains close to Piper in the future because of all her and Leo did to save him from Luthlow. Tyler could be a friend of the family. It could work when I get to rewriting S6. |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 22, 2021 7:52:00 GMT -5
Tyler was just a practice round in analyzing the Piper character in "being fit" to being a mother. I'm (also) confused on the notion that Piper is some hypocrite who bound Tyler's powers but not her own children...Tyler consented to binding his powers (not to mention, very clearly didn't want them, either) whereas her own children (at least her sons, at the time) aren't able to consent to binding their powers (nor voice their own discontent in having them, in the first place). That's the way I see it, anyway :/
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