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Post by StoryGirl83 on Jan 19, 2017 11:12:57 GMT -5
Ruth Marie posted the following in the Shoutbox and instead of losing it, I thought I would post it here. I think it's an interesting question to pursue. Can anyone here explain to me why The Source changed on Charmed. I am rewatching, and I am puzzled why his appearance constantly changes episode to episode. He goes from a devilish look in AHBL with red rings. In Charmed Again, he is hooded in black without red wings, and his hands are still red. Then later on, his hands are skin color now. Then in Charmed and Dangerous, he is an ugly demon with different coloured skin. What gives. Why on earth did they keep changing his look in some way every time he showed up. I cringe at my favorite witch show for not getting what is suppose to be ultimate evil so very wrong. The show shouldn't have even continued after season 4 once The Source died. Because whatever evil they faced after The Source would just be below and easy. It defeats the whole purpose, and why the later season's failed. The build-up to season 4. Zankou should of just been the real Source, and they could of easily got away with saying The Source actually had a name, but his power and throne were taken from him. So Zankou was locked up. Once he is free, the true ruler is back in action. I just hated the mythology of Charmed destroying what could of been a great show. And why I was thrilled with what they did with The Source and cannot ever forgive them for destroying it in season 4, and turning the show into a spin-off in season 5. I hope I haven't upset or annoyed anyone with my opinions. Peace out Charmed Cafe! Here's my response to her: Considering Zankou was locked up because the Source was scared of him, Zankou probably was stronger than the Source (and definitely smarter) and likely would have taken over as Source shortly after he was locked up if he hadn't been locked up. The way I see if, the Source wasn't an individual or at least not a living one. The source seemed to be an entity that possessed someone, imbuing them with additional power, altering them in some ways, but still allowing their personalities to show and their intelligence. It gave them powers, potentially powers that once belonged to a living being who had been born with them or collected them, but over 1,000 years ago. The Source we generally think of overtook that being 1,000 years ago, but over the centuries became lax and made stupid choices. When he was vanquished the powers were always going to go somewhere, hollow or no hollow. The hollow just helped aim the powers. And with the powers comes the influence of the original Source. I have a rather long winded theory on there, but you are right about one thing. The constant changing of the appearance of the original Source that we met (who I do not believe was the original Source) was a mess up on their end. Whether the show should have ended after that season, well, that's another argument. We'd love to have you join us on this site and discuss the topic in a thread since the Shoutbox kind of vanishes as we converse. |
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jan 19, 2017 18:45:07 GMT -5
I can post as a guest until my account goes through it appears.
A pleasure for you to start this thread StoryGirl83. I love your theory on this. Now I have to add, what happened to the powers after season 4. You can destroy the body but the powers and entity would come back time after time in the future.
Another theory I had was the Source could have been a former Elder who got banished from the heavens and sent to the underworld. But this would only work with what we know in the first handful of seasons, and not the mythology they kept *rolls eyes* changing episode to episode.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 19, 2017 18:48:37 GMT -5
Yeah, Half-Face coming back in Season 8 really does mess things up.
By the way, welcome!
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Post by Granny Charmed on Jan 19, 2017 18:55:04 GMT -5
What a great topic dears. I often wondered about The Source myself.
Now my confusion dears is if The Hollow is the ultimate power, then it would be older and more powerful than The Source himself. Now it needed good and evil to contain it. So what is the difference between The Hollow and The Source's powers. Again the show's rules always never made sense. You have the Nexus, you have the Hollow and you have the Source's powers.
I haven't watched season 4 in so long, I have forgotten about what the show told us.
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jan 19, 2017 19:01:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Half-Face coming back in Season 8 really does mess things up. By the way, welcome! Oh what a mess of a season. The Source's body was destroyed in season 4. So this Source is merely a demon without all the powers. Thank you.  What a great topic dears. I often wondered about The Source myself. Now my confusion dears is if The Hollow is the ultimate power, then it would be older and more powerful than The Source himself. Now it needed good and evil to contain it. So what is the difference between The Hollow and The Source's powers. Again the show's rules always never made sense. You have the Nexus, you have the Hollow and you have the Source's powers. I haven't watched season 4 in so long, I have forgotten about what the show told us. This might be something for another topic. But from my understanding. The source used the power of the hollow to absorb the witches powers and also the hollow can not be defeated. But the nexus also can not be destroyed (until they said it could in season 7) and lets users take control of ultimate power. But it is only guarded by the witches while the hollow is guarded by good and evil. So that means the Source's powers are guarded by evil. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 19, 2017 19:01:36 GMT -5
What a great topic dears. I often wondered about The Source myself. Now my confusion dears is if The Hollow is the ultimate power, then it would be older and more powerful than The Source himself. Now it needed good and evil to contain it. So what is the difference between The Hollow and The Source's powers. Again the show's rules always never made sense. You have the Nexus, you have the Hollow and you have the Source's powers. I haven't watched season 4 in so long, I have forgotten about what the show told us. Good questions! I'd love to know how all of this works into StoryGirl's theory. Now the Nexus is totally different than the other two. It's the center of two pentagrams, both a wiccan one and a spiritual one, which gives it great power which can be tapped into by either Good or Evil. The Shadow which came up through the crack was obviously evil and probably shoved down there when the Manor was first built and pops up whenever there's a crack. That's what possessed people like Phoebe. That's why the Nexus can't be destroyed, although the Shadow can. The Nexus is a location, not a thing. But typical enough, Kern screwed that up, mixing up the Nexus with the Shadow, the same way he mixed up the Shadow with the Hollow in Season 8. By the way, Ruth, here everyone is welcomed to their own opinion - don't worry about people giving you a hard time if they don't agree. We had some people who were like that, but they're no longer members. So feel free to spout your theories and to agree or disagree with anything you see here. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Jan 19, 2017 19:09:37 GMT -5
What a great topic dears. I often wondered about The Source myself. Now my confusion dears is if The Hollow is the ultimate power, then it would be older and more powerful than The Source himself. Now it needed good and evil to contain it. So what is the difference between The Hollow and The Source's powers. Again the show's rules always never made sense. You have the Nexus, you have the Hollow and you have the Source's powers. I haven't watched season 4 in so long, I have forgotten about what the show told us. Good questions! I'd love to know how all of this works into StoryGirl's theory. Now the Nexus is totally different than the other two. It's the center of two pentagrams, both a wiccan one and a spiritual one, which gives it great power which can be tapped into by either Good or Evil. The Shadow which came up through the crack was obviously evil and probably shoved down there when the Manor was first built and pops up whenever there's a crack. That's what possessed people like Phoebe. That's why the Nexus can't be destroyed, although the Shadow can. The Nexus is a location, not a thing. But typical enough, Kern screwed that up, mixing up the Nexus with the Shadow, the same way he mixed up the Shadow with the Hollow in Season 8. Thanks dear for clearing this up. I always got confused with all of this. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 19, 2017 19:12:27 GMT -5
Good questions! I'd love to know how all of this works into StoryGirl's theory. Now the Nexus is totally different than the other two. It's the center of two pentagrams, both a wiccan one and a spiritual one, which gives it great power which can be tapped into by either Good or Evil. The Shadow which came up through the crack was obviously evil and probably shoved down there when the Manor was first built and pops up whenever there's a crack. That's what possessed people like Phoebe. That's why the Nexus can't be destroyed, although the Shadow can. The Nexus is a location, not a thing. But typical enough, Kern screwed that up, mixing up the Nexus with the Shadow, the same way he mixed up the Shadow with the Hollow in Season 8. Thanks dear for clearing this up. I always got confused with all of this. With how consistent Charmed is (  ),that's not surprising. And this is really just my own own head canon, the way StoryGirl's is hers (although it makes more sense than anything else I've read). Other fans probably have other explanations and theirs are as accurate as mine. |
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Post by Ruth Marie on Jan 19, 2017 19:14:58 GMT -5
What a great topic dears. I often wondered about The Source myself. Now my confusion dears is if The Hollow is the ultimate power, then it would be older and more powerful than The Source himself. Now it needed good and evil to contain it. So what is the difference between The Hollow and The Source's powers. Again the show's rules always never made sense. You have the Nexus, you have the Hollow and you have the Source's powers. I haven't watched season 4 in so long, I have forgotten about what the show told us. Good questions! I'd love to know how all of this works into StoryGirl's theory. Now the Nexus is totally different than the other two. It's the center of two pentagrams, both a wiccan one and a spiritual one, which gives it great power which can be tapped into by either Good or Evil. The Shadow which came up through the crack was obviously evil and probably shoved down there when the Manor was first built and pops up whenever there's a crack. That's what possessed people like Phoebe. That's why the Nexus can't be destroyed, although the Shadow can. The Nexus is a location, not a thing. But typical enough, Kern screwed that up, mixing up the Nexus with the Shadow, the same way he mixed up the Shadow with the Hollow in Season 8. By the way, Ruth, here everyone is welcomed to their own opinion - don't worry about people giving you a hard time if they don't agree. We had some people who were like that, but they're no longer members. So feel free to spout your theories and to agree or disagree with anything you see here. All of this is such good questions. I am so pleased to hear this, I always worry I might upset some people. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Jan 19, 2017 19:43:30 GMT -5
Thanks dear for clearing this up. I always got confused with all of this. With how consistent Charmed is ( ),that's not surprising. And this is really just my own own head canon, the way StoryGirl's is hers (although it makes more sense than anything else I've read). Other fans probably have other explanations and theirs are as accurate as mine. Your so right dear. We all have our own interpretation on it. I adore everyones views, and so many interesting things to learn. Oh the show *so* needed someone who only has the job of keeping track of all the consistency on every episode and go over each script for errors. |
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Post by Andrew on Oct 29, 2021 21:30:38 GMT -5
My question: Why was the Source the guy in charge? I mean, what was it that made Two-Face so great? He never displayed any kind of great tactical brilliance, he couldn’t have been all that powerful - no one as strong as he was supposed to be would have needed any help (from the Hollow or otherwise) to kill three witches, even the Charmed Ones. Heck, Litvack nearly managed that all by himself in season 2!
So, the question stands: how did Two-Face manage to gain - and then keep - the throne of the Underworld, when there were so many others scheming for power that would have been all too happy to take it away from him?
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Post by CharmedFaith on Mar 6, 2022 0:02:00 GMT -5
My question: Why was the Source the guy in charge? I mean, what was it that made Two-Face so great? He never displayed any kind of great tactical brilliance, he couldn’t have been all that powerful - no one as strong as he was supposed to be would have needed any help (from the Hollow or otherwise) to kill three witches, even the Charmed Ones. Heck, Litvack nearly managed that all by himself in season 2! So, the question stands: how did Two-Face manage to gain - and then keep - the throne of the Underworld, when there were so many others scheming for power that would have been all too happy to take it away from him? From the way they made it sound, there has been multiple Sources of all Evil throughout time and this was but another one. Kill the old Source, the new one takes you over. So I guess that's what happened? But yeah it was a mess through and through. They made him into some lousy demon that wasnt that all impressive when he started out powerful and mysterious. He seemed to be able to kill demons from his throne (Rex/Hannah), is supposed to have these powerful Firestarters as guards, was able to command Tempest...and then nothin by Charmed and Dangerous. The writers seemed to be tired of the storyline and just decided "we're done, we're going to wrap it up real quick and move on from it" |
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),that's not surprising. And this is really just my own own head canon, the way StoryGirl's is hers (although it makes more sense than anything else I've read). Other fans probably have other explanations and theirs are as accurate as mine. 
