Pipers indifference to Paige's death in Styx Feet Under

[charmedforlife28]

Did it bother anyone else how nonchalant Piper was in Styx feet under when she was collecting Paige's soul. She literally told Paige she was stalling instead of trying to comfort her. If it was Phoebe she probably would have been more comforting. I don't know it just bothered me.

[adzpower]

It did bother me until I realized that Piper wasn't Piper in that episode, she was the angel of death, a neutral being who had no feelings, only had a need to ferry people into the afterlife via the list. If it had actually been the real Piper, I imagine she would have done more.

[cyma]

First time I saw the episode, I did find it strange that Piper was doing everything to save Phoebe but Paige dies and she's ready to lead her to the afterlife. Of course after re-watching, I realized Piper was the Angel of Death. She was only capable of warning Phoebe to stay away from danger since she was on death's list. She couldn't physically restrain Phoebe or even protect her properly like a human or witch could from demon attack.

Once Phoebe died, Piper would have no choice but to lead her to the afterlife. And that is exactly what happened except it was Paige who died. Phoebe did argue with Piper not to take Paige's soul. Piper kept on insisting she had no choice. Phoebe was even ready to give up her soul for Paige, but still the rules or whatever didn't let it work.

So Angels of Death while they could warn a person like in Prue, Leo and Chris's case, they don't have a choice but to collect the person's soul once the person is dead. Unless there's a rare circumstance where one soul not on their list is traded for another soul also not on the list. I guess being on the list makes it non-negotiable, unless destiny or someone else's death changes the dying person's fate.

But Piper did comfort Paige while she was taking her to the afterlife. telling her not to be afraid and she'll be with her the whole way. Piper seemed amused in a sad sort of way that Paige was stalling. I suppose after taking many souls to the afterlife, Piper knew there was no point in stalling.

Also Phoebe and Leo left Paige's body in the alley instead of orbing it to the Manor  I mean atleast Piper was with Paige's soul. Demon or even the police could easily discovered Paige's body. What if a demon had destroyed Paige's body? It was kinda ridiculous that Phoebe was doing everything to save Paige, to the point of offering her soul, yet doesn't even care about placing Paige's body in a safe place, lol.

[Melinda Halliwell]

Yeah I found it strange also Leo or Phoebe didn't orb Paige's body somewhere safe.

Of course we never knew much about Angels Of Death and how the mechanics worked concerning souls with them like Supernatural done using Reapers although I didn't like finding out they were angels actually who could be killed using angel blades.

I mean if a witch brought someone back resurrected is that alright to do or is there a consequence or consequences instead and would another person have to take said dead person's place to offset the balance and correct the mistake?

I would've liked to have seen an episode dedicated to the hierachy of them viewing other angels beside Simon Templemen's death and how they were assigned certain beings to collect and what happened with Angel's Of Death generally.

[Chrisaholic]

First seeing it was strange that Piper reacted so differently to the death of her youngest sister. Yet she was determined with saving Phoebe when she was on Death's list. Maybe the talk with the Angel of Death (her boss) made her change her mind. Otherwise, I really can't explain this strange action of hers.

[cyma]

May 9, 2017 18:03:05 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

I mean if a witch brought someone back resurrected is that alright to do or is there a consequence or consequences instead and would another person have to take said dead person's place to offset the balance and correct the mistake?

In Tempus time reversal, Andy seemed to be the one to take the place of Phoebe and Piper. And then later on it's Prue for Piper. I suppose Chris dying after changing the past so drastically where Piper and her sisters and probably a whole lot of innocents are alive also counts as paying the price for resurrection.

As for resurrection without time travel or reversal, sisters resurrected Melinda Warren and there wasn't any consequence, unless you count Matthew getting cursed again. Piper resurrected Grams using unborn Wyatt's powers and...well Paige ended up dying, but it wasn't a result of Grams resurrection but the evil witch and a poisoned apple. But Grams did sort of butt in and take the role of a leader and every one of the sister got into trouble because of relying on her. So I guess it's a consequence.

Cole sort of got screwed up badly after he resurrected himself. Phoebe rejected him. Barbas stole his powers almost killing Paige and then later on he lost his mind.

I would've liked to have seen an episode dedicated to the hierachy of them viewing other angels beside Simon Templemen's death and how they were assigned certain beings to collect and what happened with Angel's Of Death generally.

Same. It seemed like Simon was the only Angel of Death responsible for a billion people on earth. I'm surprised he didn't recruit more helpers to collect souls.

[gzv969]

May 14, 2017 15:04:37 GMT -5 cyma said:

May 9, 2017 18:03:05 GMT -5 Melinda Halliwell said:

I mean if a witch brought someone back resurrected is that alright to do or is there a consequence or consequences instead and would another person have to take said dead person's place to offset the balance and correct the mistake?

In Tempus time reversal, Andy seemed to be the one to take the place of Phoebe and Piper. And then later on it's Prue for Piper. I suppose Chris dying after changing the past so drastically where Piper and her sisters and probably a whole lot of innocents are alive also counts as paying the price for resurrection.

As for resurrection without time travel or reversal, sisters resurrected Melinda Warren and there wasn't any consequence, unless you count Matthew getting cursed again. Piper resurrected Grams using unborn Wyatt's powers and...well Paige ended up dying, but it wasn't a result of Grams resurrection but the evil witch and a poisoned apple. But Grams did sort of butt in and take the role of a leader and every one of the sister got into trouble because of relying on her. So I guess it's a consequence.

Cole sort of got screwed up badly after he resurrected himself. Phoebe rejected him. Barbas stole his powers almost killing Paige and then later on he lost his mind.

I would've liked to have seen an episode dedicated to the hierachy of them viewing other angels beside Simon Templemen's death and how they were assigned certain beings to collect and what happened with Angel's Of Death generally.

Same. It seemed like Simon was the only Angel of Death responsible for a billion people on earth. I'm surprised he didn't recruit more helpers to collect souls.

There was also the Angel of Death, Clarence,that came for Chris in "The Courtship of Wyatt's Father". He was sent early to work in the club as a cleaner for a while to get to know Chris first since Chris's death was a unique situation requiring special handling. According to Clarence

[gzv969]

I also originally felt Pipers behavior was weird but I eventually understood. When piper saw phoebes name on the list she tried very hard to talk phoebe out of whatever she was doing and when phoebe refused to listen Piper went on to tell the angel of Death that she wouldn't collect phoebes soul. But I then realized that pipers fear at that time was if phoebe died she would have no way of preventing herself from collecting phoebes soul as she would be on autopilot at that point. Which was evident when Paige died. Piper didn't have a chance to try and prevent it as Paige went to dead instantly.

[Aaeiyn]

No, she knew nothing would stop the outcome.

Her job as the Angel of Death is to ease the people she's supposed to take through the threshold. That's why they showed us her taking the old guy through the threshold. To make it clear she's supposed to ease the tension of taking people's spirits through the threshold.

[fallingsnow6136]

I think none of them expected Paige to die actually - they were all so prepared for Phoebe. By the time she did, Piper had no choice.