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Post by Granny Charmed on Aug 16, 2017 4:48:29 GMT -5
That's right Melinda. That had season 7 been the final season and Henry was moved to season 7's story - Not so sure about Henry replacing Brody. I think we would enjoy the series ending more. Maybe here, Phoebe would be left as the only single sister at the end. But season 8 is the only saving grace thanks to Paige/Henry. I would've preferred skipping Brody and the Avatars (hated that whole storyline - preferred the Avatars in Season 5) and instead putting in Paige and Henry's love story from Season 8 into Season 7 and still making Zankou the Big Bad of the last season rather than Billie and Christy. But then my real preference is skipping from 'A Paige From the Past' to 'Show Ghouls' and ending it with 'Something Wicca This Way Goes'. A LOT of inconsistencies that would have to be straightened out, starting with leaving out both boys - YES! - and figuring out what to do with Cole (hopefully letting him take Drake's place, including dying the way Drake did and Henry taking Brody's place. It would be fun trying to take the various storylines and mixing them up and coming up with one that made more sense. Oh, that sounds like fun dear taking various storylines and mixing them up. Especially if you can condense the series down from 8 seasons to a perfect 6.  |
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 16, 2017 7:01:15 GMT -5
Well, if you want to try and you want to go ahead and just make it 6 seasons - three for Prue and three for Paige - go for it!
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 17, 2017 7:33:42 GMT -5
I know I've taken this thread way off-topic, and maybe this should be put into another thread, but this whole conversation is reminding me of a contest that was held at a different site – “Let’s Rewrite Charmed”. It was based on this question – would fans have liked Billie more if she *wasn’t* part of the final season? Astral Echo came up with a great answer to that and then in the contest, we took the ideas and ran with them, coming up with our own plotline for the last part of Charmed. If anyone recognizes any of this as part of my own Dream Charmeds and other such rewrites, this is where I got those ideas. It doesn't quite do what Granny Charmed wanted it to do - turning Charmed into just six seasons - but, well, see what you think. It keeps Canon Season One through Four the same, but changes the rest... SEASON FIVE – THE AVATARS
This season combines the ideas of Season Five with the ideas of Season Seven, starting with Season Five and ending with Season Seven.
Keeping Cole in, as they did, the first half of the season plays our pretty much the same, building up the Avatars a bit more, having them stalk Cole like they did Leo in Canon Season Seven.
Unlike Canon Season Five, Cole is not crazy nor does he stalk Phoebe, nor does Phoebe hate him…she’s just afraid to love him after what happened in Season Four, afraid he’ll turn her evil again. Cole turns to the Avatars to help change the world into one where Phoebe won’t be afraid of him and will love him again. Unfortunately this means he ends up in a world where Phoebe and her sisters aren’t witches and Cole is just a human lawyer. Since he doesn’t like being a powerless human, just like he didn’t in Season Four, he tricks the Avatars into turning the world back to what it was.
With Cole turning his back on the Avatars, they instead turn to Leo – who for pretty much the first time shows he also has a weakness. He sees a world where his wife and his newborn son can be safe, since unlike Canon Wyatt, he doesn’t have a protective shield and is not the Twice-Blessed Child – no one is ever more powerful than the combined power of the Power of Three. Instead, as a witchlighter, Wyatt has the same powers Paige does.
Leo follows a similar path to Canon Season Seven, persuading first Phoebe, who then shows Piper and Paige the same world that both she and Leo saw. Eventually the sisters and Leo see the error of their ways and team up with the Elders, with Cole playing Brody’s role, including sacrificing himself in order to save Phoebe and her sisters. We see Grams and Patty welcoming him into the Light – Heaven for Cole, not Hell, as he always thought would be his future.
But just like Canon Season Seven, the Elders punish Leo for his part in what happened by turning him mortal.
SEASON SIX: BILLIE
This plays pretty much like Canon Season Eight with the sisters seeing Billie as a way to leave magic behind. Unlike Billie in Canon Season Eight, her only power is TK, just like Prue’s. She and her sister are *not* the Ultimate Power – that remains the Power of Three.
Piper has become more engrossed in the club and her family, even considering expanding her business and opening up the restaurant she’s always dreamed of. She wants nothing to do with magic and is very happy to have Leo human, who has become her own little errand boy to his disgust.
Phoebe is still in deep mourning for Cole and doesn’t even look at another man. Instead she concentrates on her job and her new nephew. She wants nothing to do with Billie, since magic reminds her of Cole.
Paige is left to train Billie (who is *not* her charge – Paige never has any charges since she’s not a whitelighter, which also means she never hears the Elders' jingle), which she wants to do as quickly as possible so she can get back to her own life, since she has become the social butterfly who flits from guy to guy (which would’ve allowed the hunky male guest stars The WB insisted on including), although she’s no Freebie…she doesn’t go to bed with any of them. She knows that sex does not equal love.
We and Billie can tell how selfish and self-centered the sisters have become – they truly believe that between vanquishing the Source (twice) and saving the world from the Avatars, their work as the Charmed Ones is done and the whole world should be in their debt.
Billie goes in search for her sister, with little help from the Charmed Ones. Christy follows the same path as Canon Season Eight and shows Billie how selfish the Charmed Ones are and turns her against them.
The Elders have also realized how off-track the Charmed Ones have become and sensing a new threat, kidnap Leo, telling Piper that if and when they stop that threat, Leo will be returned to her.
Billie realizes that her sister is the true enemy, but can she stop all hell from breaking loose yet again?
Paige is the first to blame herself and her sisters, saying if they hadn’t been so busy with their own lives, they might have noticed that Christy was evil. Piper says they deserve a normal life and Billie can battle her sister all on her own, since once Billie gets rid of Christy, Leo will be returned to Piper. Phoebe disagrees and sides with Paige.
Billie shows up and tells them that she tried, but she can’t stop Christy – she can’t kill her own sister. She points the Charmed Ones back on the right path and it’s the Charmed Ones who figure out how to save, not vanquish, Christy, which is when Leo is returned to Piper.
Billie gets ready to leave, telling them that her work is done, that in, fact, she knew all along about Christy. She tells them that she was sent by Prue to guide them back on the straight and narrow. Only by nearly losing Leo and their lives could they learn their lesson. They all promise to go back to their true destiny – helping and protecting those innocent of magic without the Charmed Ones revealing themselves.
In the final scene of the season, we see Billie standing on the steps of the Manor, facing the door. She waves her hand and the door starts to close, but suddenly she changes and her blonde hair becomes a very familiar black bob just before she is orbed back to Heaven, her mission completed, as the door finishes closing.
SEASON SEVEN: CHRIS
In the future, the Elders send Chris back into the past in order to save the world by stopping Wyatt from truly becoming evil by Barbas who is influencing Gideon. Since Leo is still human, Chris is simply a witch with no whitelighter powers.
Also since Leo is still human, he never became (or ever becomes) an Elder, so Chris has no reason to hate him – he actually confides in his father, not only about Piper’s premature death, but also about his phoenix fiancée back home. Leo becomes more like the figure Victor was in Canon Season Six, although of course, Leo is a regular and not a recurring guest star.
This also means that Chris is never the sisters’ whitelighter – he’s pretending to just be someone from the future who needs help – only Leo knows who he truly is – the sisters never find out.
Chris freezes molecules like his mother, which he hides from his family in order to hide his identity, but that he uses when necessary to save the sisters, since his mother has long since forgotten about that power.
There is no “Oh, My Goddess” or “Valhalley of the Dolls” or “Hyde School Reunion” – neither Chris nor any of the sisters are ever murderers or soul thieves. Darryl never has any reason to hate them or to leave.
Instead we see episodes that show what would’ve happened to the sisters had Chris not shown up – and ones that show what has changed now that he has.
With Leo as a human and Chris only as a witch, Wyatt (goaded on by Barbas) has become power-hungry in the future and is now a darklighter, killing everyone with whitelighter powers. Only by Leo dying and once more becoming a whitelighter so that he can properly teach his oldest son the proper way to use his powers can Wyatt hope to be saved, also allowing Chris to become a witchlighter, too.
Chris convinces Piper that only by letting her husband die so he can follow his own true destiny of being a whitelighter - meaning she will never have a normal life - will her son not turn evil.
Once Leo becomes a whitelighter again, Chris – his mission accomplished – fades away, even as Piper finds out that she is pregnant again, and Leo tells her that if it’s another boy, they should name him Chris.
SEASON EIGHT: ZANKOU
In this season we see the sisters going back to saving those innocent of magic, while at the same time having more of a normal life than Piper ever dreamed.
She happily prepares for her new baby even as she is having P3 extended into a restaurant, with Leo as her project manager - something the Elders have allowed him to take up professionally, so he also has a semi-normal life, even as he continues to guide the Charmed Ones and his other charges.
Phoebe meets Drake. Unlike Canon Season Seven, he’s not dying. She’s strongly attracted to him, but fights it until Cole appears to her and tells her that he sent his friend Drake to her because he wants her to love again. So she and Drake fall in love even as she continues her Charmed duties, finding innocents through her job as Ask Phoebe. He asks her to marry him near the end of the season and she accepts.
Paige has gone back to social services and through that meets Henry. She finds him interesting, but never tells him her family secret. We’re left to wonder if that will happen in the future.
Then Zankou shows up…
Rather than the Nexus, he is after an immortality amulet which is hidden in P3. He realizes that the only thing that can stop him is the Power of Three, so he kidnaps the only one who doesn’t have active powers – Phoebe – although the other two manage to free her.
After checking the Book, the sisters risk their lives in a big fiery vanquish, fully expecting to die, but Paige manages to panic-orb away. She goes back in time to save her sisters, never going forward so we never see any of the Charmed Ones or Leo as old. Instead, she gathers Grams and Patty to help save the day. Paige phases back into her own body as soon as the group arrives.
Patty freezes Zankou as Grams TKs the amulet away from Zankou, and then Piper blows him across the room. Now unprotected by the amulet, the family cast the Source vanquish spell and then the sisters cast the Power of Three spell to protect them all from the explosion (which, of course, is what killed Phoebe and Piper the first time around – the first time any Charmed One has died since Prue’s death).
In our happy ending, Piper, Phoebe and Paige walk down the stairs together, admiring the photographs on the wall as we get flashbacks of the significance of each image, ending with the iconic picture of the original Power of Three. Then there’s a bit of magic and Paige becomes part of it, too. So?? What do you think? If Charmed has been more like this, I'd be a S1-8 fan. |
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Post by craig on Aug 17, 2017 20:52:24 GMT -5
I know I've taken this thread way off-topic, and maybe this should be put into another thread, but this whole conversation is reminding me of a contest that was held at a different site – “Let’s Rewrite Charmed”. It was based on this questions – would fans have liked Billie more if she *wasn’t* part of the final season? Astral Echo came up with a great answer to that and then in the contest, we took the ideas and ran with it, coming up with our own plotline for Charmed. If anyone recognizes any of this as part of my own Dream Charmeds and other such rewrites, this is where I got those ideas. It doesn't quite do what Granny Charmed wanted it to do - turning Charmed into just six episodes, but, well, see what you think. It keeps Canon Season One through Four the same, but changes the rest... Well I got to say this was AMAZING!!! I can't believe how well they did the series for 8 seasons. Like Granny Charmed, I think 6 perfect seasons would be fun to come up with. But I can't believe how well you managed to do 8 seasons. SEASON FIVE – THE AVATARS
Leo follows a similar path to Canon Season Seven, persuading first Phoebe, who then shows Piper and Paige the same world that both she and Leo saw. Eventually the sisters and Leo see the error of their ways and team up with the Elders, with Cole playing Brody’s role, including sacrificing himself in order to save Phoebe and her sisters. We see Grams and Patty welcoming him into the Light – Heaven for Cole, not Hell, as he always thought would be his future.
But just like Canon Season Seven, the Elders punish Leo for his part in what happened by turning him mortal. WOW, I love this. Don't I wish. This is just simply awesome. I really like this. Well I didn't expect this, but now reading it again, I like it even more. I know some people have have theories on something like this. Couldn't be more happier to see those episodes are gone.  Love how all of this went down. Love this!! SEASON EIGHT: ZANKOUDon't we wish. Isn't this nice. When I saw Paige ended up with Henry, I feared all three sisters would be married by the end. I really am glad it played out this way, even if I like Paige and Henry married. Very creative. Well I like that only Patty and Grams appear. YAY!!! So glad this happens. Now that is how you end Charmed. No flashforwards, no sisters married, and just one is engaged and the other just together and starting. I have to agree with you Es, I would be a S1-8 fan too with this set-up. I would love to see how Granny Charmed would work 6 season's of Charmed. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 17, 2017 22:19:21 GMT -5
I would, too. And actually thinking about this, I realized that in order to make "Let's Rewrite Charmed" work properly you'd have to throw out a lot of fluff one-time episodes, I truly think you could do this Season Five and Season Six as Season Five and this Season Seven and Season Eight as Season Six and you have your six seasons! For *sure*, if that was the case, I"d be a S1-6 fan!
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Post by Granny Charmed on Aug 17, 2017 23:20:44 GMT -5
Oh, I *love* this set up dears. Very good for a S1-8. I can easily see this working for 6 seasons. Maybe if Cole is left behind in Season 4, and the Avatars story doesn't happen.
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Post by gzv969 on Aug 19, 2017 1:39:29 GMT -5
For me I see the series different and rewatch in a different manner.
Season 1 for me, I usually rewatch it by itself and stop at the end of that season. I try not to rewatch it more than twice in a year. It's like a special charmed miniseries event for me. I like to view it as a show intro special before the main series started.
Season 2 to 4 and season 5 up to centennial charmed, I rewatch often all the way through beginning to end. I regard this as the real charmed series
The rest of Season 5 up to 8, I rewatch episodes randomly. Mostly certain episodes more that others. The ones I really like.
I often sometimes get to rewatching other less liked episodes depending on what story I may be working on or based on what questions I see asked on boards like this.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 19, 2017 2:22:23 GMT -5
I like the way you do that - great way of looking at it. For me, it's start at the beginning and end with 'Apocalypse, Not'. For me, that's Charmed. And much as I hate how Piper treats both Leo and Dan in Season Two, trying to forget how she changes into Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper in S4-8 makes that seem not that bad. Oh, yeah, there's a few episodes here and there that I skip past and I like watching certain S3 episodes - even certain portions of certain episodes - on my S3 DVD, while still having my VHS tapes that include my favorite episodes from the latter seasons, and also includes the marathons TNT use to run when the Super Bowl was on (my favorite is the one with all of the time-travel episodes, even if 'Paige From the Past' is the last one I watch), but for me, those first two seasons will always be the best, so it's why I think I'll always count myself as a S1-2 Charmed fan. |
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Post by Granny Charmed on Aug 19, 2017 2:52:38 GMT -5
For me I see the series different and rewatch in a different manner. Season 1 for me, I usually rewatch it by itself and stop at the end of that season. I try not to rewatch it more than twice in a year. It's like a special charmed miniseries event for me. I like to view it as a show intro special before the main series started. Season 2 to 4 and season 5 up to centennial charmed, I rewatch often all the way through beginning to end. I regard this as the real charmed series The rest of Season 5 up to 8, I rewatch episodes randomly. Mostly certain episodes more that others. The ones I really like. I often sometimes get to rewatching other less liked episodes depending on what story I may be working on or based on what questions I see asked on boards like this. Your right dear, sometimes you find liking some of those episodes rarely seen or ones you don't remember well. Which was the case earlier this year for me with They're Everywhere. Which I really love now so much. Like Es I see myself as a Season 1-2 Fan. A very interesting and different way of looking at rewatching and liking Charmed. |
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Post by Ruth Marie on Aug 19, 2017 5:27:39 GMT -5
I like the way you do that - great way of looking at it. For me, it's start at the beginning and end with 'Apocalypse, Not'. For me, that's Charmed. And much as I hate how Piper treats both Leo and Dan in Season Two, trying to forget how she changes into Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper in S4-8 makes that seem not that bad. Oh, yeah, there's a few episodes here and there that I skip past and I like watching certain S3 episodes - even certain portions of certain episodes - on my S3 DVD, while still having my VHS tapes that include my favorite episodes from the latter seasons, and also includes the marathons TNT use to run when the Super Bowl was on (my favorite is the one with all of the time-travel episodes, even if 'Paige From the Past' is the last one I watch), but for me, those first two seasons will always be the best, so it's why I think I'll always count myself as a S1-2 Charmed fan. I remember that I caught a rerun on television a long time ago for a Charmed marathon but it was based on each sister. Which ran 4 or 5 episodes of the best episodes for Piper, Phoebe, Paige and Prue each week. Too bad I don't recall what episodes they selected. But that was going back 10 years ago.  Would make a great poll, for selecting a list of the best episodes for each sister and selecting between 5 and 10 episodes. I am the same as you guys with watching certain episodes of S5-8. But over the years, I have just as much fun looking at Tumblr with even my most hated episodes having some good moments in gif form. |
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Post by Elle Em on Aug 19, 2017 10:02:57 GMT -5
gzv, I love your idea of watching the first season separate. It really does have a different feel to it than all the other seasons. It's sort of like a prelude to the rest of the show. I could see it existing as a kind of long flashback to their beginnings as witches.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 19, 2017 10:16:56 GMT -5
I like the way you do that - great way of looking at it. For me, it's start at the beginning and end with 'Apocalypse, Not'. For me, that's Charmed. And much as I hate how Piper treats both Leo and Dan in Season Two, trying to forget how she changes into Poor, Poor Pitiful Piper in S4-8 makes that seem not that bad. Oh, yeah, there's a few episodes here and there that I skip past and I like watching certain S3 episodes - even certain portions of certain episodes - on my S3 DVD, while still having my VHS tapes that include my favorite episodes from the latter seasons, and also includes the marathons TNT use to run when the Super Bowl was on (my favorite is the one with all of the time-travel episodes, even if 'Paige From the Past' is the last one I watch), but for me, those first two seasons will always be the best, so it's why I think I'll always count myself as a S1-2 Charmed fan. I remember that I caught a rerun on television a long time ago for a Charmed marathon but it was based on each sister. Which ran 4 or 5 episodes of the best episodes for Piper, Phoebe, Paige and Prue each week. Too bad I don't recall what episodes they selected. But that was going back 10 years ago. Would make a great poll, for selecting a list of the best episodes for each sister and selecting between 5 and 10 episodes. Nope, not a poll - another response thread, letting members choose their favorites. Too many choices for a poll. Putting those in their boards would be perfect. You can always do tabulations after every few days or so, but that would be a heckova lot more fun than a poll, because then even the poll-maker will be reminded of episodes they'd forgotten about. LOL, you're right - for most of the S5-8 episodes (and for me, most of the S3-8 episodes) watching them via gifs is best! |
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Post by conette on Aug 19, 2017 11:10:15 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm pretty open to all seasons of Charmed. Whenever I wanna watch it, my mood dictates what season I wanna watch. |
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Post by prudencehalliwell on Mar 29, 2018 20:52:56 GMT -5
Mid-Season 1 to Early Season 3 Fan.
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Post by Esmeralda on Nov 7, 2019 21:26:23 GMT -5
That's right Melinda. That had season 7 been the final season and Henry was moved to season 7's story - Not so sure about Henry replacing Brody. I think we would enjoy the series ending more. Maybe here, Phoebe would be left as the only single sister at the end. But season 8 is the only saving grace thanks to Paige/Henry. I would've preferred skipping Brody and the Avatars (hated that whole storyline - preferred the Avatars in Season 5) and instead putting in Paige and Henry's love story from Season 8 into Season 7 and still making Zankou the Big Bad of the last season rather than Billie and Christy. But then my real preference is skipping from 'A Paige From the Past' to 'Show Ghouls' and ending it with 'Something Wicca This Way Goes'. A LOT of inconsistencies that would have to be straightened out, starting with leaving out both boys - YES! - and figuring out what to do with Cole (hopefully letting him take Drake's place, including dying the way Drake did) and Henry taking Brody's place. It would be fun trying to take the various storylines and mixing them up and coming up with one that made more sense. Hehehehe - and someone did do that thread (I'm still looking for it...) and it led to me writing my Dream Charmed...with Children. |
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Post by Melinda Halliwell on Nov 8, 2019 5:24:19 GMT -5
I'm a mix of different seasons fan.
Seasons 1 and 2 are always my favourite because I liked the dynamic relationship of the sisters, the fact they cared about innocents, and Leo or Andy didn't overshadow the focus on storylines or Prue, Piper, and Phoebe.
Although I didn't like Phoebe lying to her sisters about faking Cole's death or choosing him over them and Piper's powers suddenly changing from freezing time to molecules the sisters still felt like the power of three in season 3 and there were fantastic stand-alone episodes I enjoyed like 'All Halliwell's Eve', 'The Good The Bad And The Cursed', and 'Sin Francisco Dreaming'.
I enjoyed season 4 up until 'Charmed And Dangerous' despite Piper be a little whiny seeing Paige's introduction and Piper, Phoebe grieving for Prue.
I didn't like Phoebe and Cole's story after that being how the show focused on them and not the Charmed One's saving innocents except Karen and Gregory Conroy.
It should've also been harder vanquishing the Source because the new sisters hadn't long known one another and so couldn't have had the bond to access the power of three yet to kill him which should've happened the first half of season 5 and been the red-winged person from the season 3 finale and not black robbed half face.
And finally, I liked season 7's second half one for Zankou's storyline and the person in a general who was more the Source than non-creepy half-face ever was from his overall demeanour and menacing looks.
Then Drake who was one of the best guest stars throughout Charmed I thought from his chemistry with Phoebe to his lust for life and overall personality which I loved also.
I would've preferred him being Phoebe's boyfriend instead of Leslie and introduced season 7 start if Billy Zane had been available then going through Drake's journey from his deal with the Sorcerer to his death at the end with him being suspicious of the Avatars intentions and trying to dissuade the sisters not being obsessed like Kyle in accepting Avatar's deal.
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Post by rebooted on Nov 9, 2019 4:57:05 GMT -5
Its the Seasons I still fell a Prue-ness from.
I picked Season 1 - 4. I would rewatch every single episode a million times. I love every single episode.
I do like some of the beginning of Season 5 (after the Mermaid and Cinderella episodes) until Centennial Charmed. But nothing much after that except mayyyyybe Cat House and Sense and Sensibility.
Season 7 felt like it was almost redeeming itself but the only episodes I really like are Witchness Protection and Death Becomes Them.
As for Season 8, I only like the Paige and Henry scenes and Payback's a Witch. Phoebe is so selfless in this episode.
Loves A Witch is the only Season 6 episode that come close to the calibre of a Season 1-4 episode.
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Post by ryanhalliwell on Dec 3, 2019 8:33:46 GMT -5
S1-4&7.
S1-4 are far superior. But the seventh season recovers a little the tone of seasons three and four.
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Post by rebooted on Dec 4, 2019 2:38:06 GMT -5
S1-4&7. S1-4 are far superior. But the seventh season recovers a little the tone of seasons three and four. And sort of Season 1 and 2 with the Woggy and Piper & Leo's forbidden love storyline again |
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Post by Aaeiyn on Aug 28, 2021 5:20:21 GMT -5
I'm a mix of different seasons. I like S1, S3, S6 & S7. I'm still "meh" with S5 & S8, and I'm just bored with S2 & S4. I'm a little odd ;P
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Would make a great poll, for selecting a list of the best episodes for each sister and selecting between 5 and 10 episodes. 
