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Post by rebooted on Aug 7, 2017 0:15:52 GMT -5
In The Witch is Back
Melinda Warren has a premonition when she touches Phoebe and says that she see's many more daughters...
Is this because she see's Phoebe's/Seer vision from Season 7's "Witchness Protection" or Forever Charmed's depiction of Phoebe having three daughters.
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Post by Esmeralda on Aug 7, 2017 2:00:24 GMT -5
No, not Phoebe's children, but Phoebe's daughters, her granddaughters, her great-granddaughters, her great-great-granddaughters, etc. The only line where Melinda Warren's vision remained true - the only Warren line unmarred by males with powers or females with powers tainted by whitelighter powers. If they ever did a sequel with her three daughters as the Chosen Ones, I'd hope each of them would have one of Phoebe's three powers, each untainted by cupid powers.
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 27, 2021 9:04:42 GMT -5
No, not Phoebe's children, but Phoebe's daughters, her granddaughters, her great-granddaughters, her great-great-granddaughters, etc. The only line where Melinda Warren's vision remained true - the only Warren line unmarred by males with powers or females with powers tainted by whitelighter powers. If they ever did a sequel with her three daughters as the Chosen Ones, I'd hope each of them would have one of Phoebe's three powers, each untainted by cupid powers. I would have loved if they received cupid powers, just not be overpowered like Piper's son. For example: All three get Beaming and Sensing. The eldest daughter: Prudence Brianna: Telekinesis (since it's a Warren power) and Levitation. The middle daughter: Penelope Kyra: Premonitions and Psychic Reflection. The youngest daughter: Pandora Valentina: Empathy, she truely is an Empath. Prue and Penelope dedicates their lives to protecting the innocents and learning about witchcraft, while Pandora wants to only be a cupid, doesn't really want to be involved with demons and decides to follow her father, only assisting her sisters, when needed, to which her parents are on board with. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 27, 2021 18:44:33 GMT -5
No, not Phoebe's children, but Phoebe's daughters, her granddaughters, her great-granddaughters, her great-great-granddaughters, etc. The only line where Melinda Warren's vision remained true - the only Warren line unmarred by males with powers or females with powers tainted by whitelighter powers. If they ever did a sequel with her three daughters as the Chosen Ones, I'd hope each of them would have one of Phoebe's three powers, each untainted by cupid powers. I would have loved if they received cupid powers, just not be overpowered like Piper's son. For example: All three get Beaming and Sensing. The eldest daughter: Prudence Brianna: Telekinesis (since it's a Warren power) and Levitation. The middle daughter: Penelope Kyra: Premonitions and Psychic Reflection. The youngest daughter: Pandora Valentina: Empathy, she truely is an Empath. Prue and Penelope dedicates their lives to protecting the innocents and learning about witchcraft, while Pandora wants to only be a cupid, doesn't really want to be involved with demons and decides to follow her father, only assisting her sisters, when needed, to which her parents are on board with. We'll have to agree to disagree. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 27, 2021 21:01:01 GMT -5
Like Es, I'd prefer Coop's cupid side played no part in it. More so, I'd rather Coop himself didn't exist but without retconning the series, that just isn't possible. While still not the ideal situation, I'd rather it came full circle for Phoebe and she ultimately ended up with Cole...but that would've required the series being very different.
But anyway, I'd much rather have seen Phoebe's daughters each receive a Warren power and an extension of Phoebe's powers for their secondary power whenever the time came for that. So one with telekinesis and telepathy, another with temporal statis/molecular immobilization and levitation and the third sister with clairvoyance/premonitions and empathy.
If this were for a Spin-Off, the only way I could see it happening is if the next Charmed Ones. This would suggest that Melinda Warren's prophecy was wrong and that her line would see generations of Charmed Ones after the arrival of Patty's daughters. But I don't know how popular that premise/retcon would be...
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 28, 2021 7:56:23 GMT -5
I would have loved if they received cupid powers, just not be overpowered like Piper's son. For example: All three get Beaming and Sensing. The eldest daughter: Prudence Brianna: Telekinesis (since it's a Warren power) and Levitation. The middle daughter: Penelope Kyra: Premonitions and Psychic Reflection. The youngest daughter: Pandora Valentina: Empathy, she truely is an Empath. Prue and Penelope dedicates their lives to protecting the innocents and learning about witchcraft, while Pandora wants to only be a cupid, doesn't really want to be involved with demons and decides to follow her father, only assisting her sisters, when needed, to which her parents are on board with. We'll have to agree to disagree. I guess we will unless after they die they can receive them that way? |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 28, 2021 8:38:33 GMT -5
We'll have to agree to disagree. I guess we will unless after they die they can receive them that way? If you mean like what happened in the comics, remember that those were babies who were born dead. I don't think you want that to happen to your daughters. And do you really want your daughters to die in order to become cupids? *shudder* I just don't like halves - I think the idea of dead men being able to have children ruined "Charmed". I think that had it gone the way it was planned before Ted King quit and Brian Krause remained that the daughter seen in 'Morality Bites' would've been Prue and Andy's - just a witch. Without Brian Krause (meaning without Sam and no chance of Paige), we'd never hear the word "half-whitelighter" or "witchlighter" and having a whitelighter for a father would not be more important than having a Warren for a mother - and if there was no half-whitelighter, I believe that fans never would've come up with the idea of half-cupids. Even more than the three having Phoebe's three powers, I actually prefer the idea of Phoebe's three daughter being the reincarnation of Penny, Patty and Prue, with Patty, the oldest, still having her power to freeze time; Prue, the middle, still having her power to move things with her mind and Penny, the baby, having the ability to see the future because she misused her power to move things with her mind so badly and so often. None are cupid-influenced and they don't have cupid powers. But like I keep saying, that's just me, and I tend to be in the minority because I'm so much older than most fans. So if you decide to write a fanfic about the Source's heiress, do whatever feels right to you - I'm sure a lot of fans would enjoy it. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 28, 2021 11:53:22 GMT -5
I guess we will unless after they die they can receive them that way? If you mean like what happened in the comics, remember that those were babies who were born dead. I don't think you want that to happen to your daughters. And do you really want your daughters to die in order to become cupids? *shudder* I just don't like halves - I think the idea of dead men being able to have children ruined "Charmed". I think that had it gone the way it was planned before Ted King quit and Brian Krause remained that the daughter seen in 'Morality Bites' would've been Prue and Andy's - just a witch. Without Brian Krause (meaning without Sam and no chance of Paige), we'd never hear the word "half-whitelighter" or "witchlighter" and having a whitelighter for a father would not be more important than having a Warren for a mother - and if there was no half-whitelighter, I believe that fans never would've come up with the idea of half-cupids. Even more than the three having Phoebe's three powers, I actually prefer the idea of Phoebe's three daughter being the reincarnation of Penny, Patty and Prue, with Patty, the oldest, still having her power to freeze time; Prue, the middle, still having her power to move things with her mind and Penny, the baby, having the ability to see the future because she misused her power to move things with her mind so badly and so often. None are cupid-influenced and they don't have cupid powers. But like I keep saying, that's just me, and I tend to be in the minority because I'm so much older than most fans. So if you decide to write a fanfic about the Source's heiress, do whatever feels right to you - I'm sure a lot of fans would enjoy it. That is an amazing idea to have Phoebe's daughters named after all the significant women of her life, I love your ideas about her daughters having the powers that they do. Or another idea that I have is that they are destined to become Cupids after their deaths, so they aren't born dead, they aren't half-breeds, they are full witches then after they die they go on to become Cupids. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 28, 2021 13:57:51 GMT -5
I think Es means, and correct me if I'm wrong, she'd have liked Phoebe's daughter to have literally been reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. Not just named after them.
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 28, 2021 23:05:28 GMT -5
If you mean like what happened in the comics, remember that those were babies who were born dead. I don't think you want that to happen to your daughters. And do you really want your daughters to die in order to become cupids? *shudder* I just don't like halves - I think the idea of dead men being able to have children ruined "Charmed". I think that had it gone the way it was planned before Ted King quit and Brian Krause remained that the daughter seen in 'Morality Bites' would've been Prue and Andy's - just a witch. Without Brian Krause (meaning without Sam and no chance of Paige), we'd never hear the word "half-whitelighter" or "witchlighter" and having a whitelighter for a father would not be more important than having a Warren for a mother - and if there was no half-whitelighter, I believe that fans never would've come up with the idea of half-cupids. Even more than the three having Phoebe's three powers, I actually prefer the idea of Phoebe's three daughter being the reincarnation of Penny, Patty and Prue, with Patty, the oldest, still having her power to freeze time; Prue, the middle, still having her power to move things with her mind and Penny, the baby, having the ability to see the future because she misused her power to move things with her mind so badly and so often. None are cupid-influenced and they don't have cupid powers. But like I keep saying, that's just me, and I tend to be in the minority because I'm so much older than most fans. So if you decide to write a fanfic about the Source's heiress, do whatever feels right to you - I'm sure a lot of fans would enjoy it. That is an amazing idea to have Phoebe's daughters named after all the significant women of her life, I love your ideas about her daughters having the powers that they do. Or another idea that I have is that they are destined to become Cupids after their deaths, so they aren't born dead, they aren't half-breeds, they are full witches then after they die they go on to become Cupids. And if that's what you like, go for it. I don't like it, but again, that's just me. I don't like the idea of any of them having to die in order to become something, especially if that then means that the other two can't be Charmed, especially if they're my three - the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. But as always, that's just me. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2021 3:36:20 GMT -5
That is an amazing idea to have Phoebe's daughters named after all the significant women of her life, I love your ideas about her daughters having the powers that they do. Or another idea that I have is that they are destined to become Cupids after their deaths, so they aren't born dead, they aren't half-breeds, they are full witches then after they die they go on to become Cupids. And if that's what you like, go for it. I don't like it, but again, that's just me. I don't like the idea of any of them having to die in order to become something, especially if that then means that the other two can't be Charmed, especially if they're my three - the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. But as always, that's just me. Oh that makes sense, when it comes towards the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue, is that in order of when they died? Like because Patty died first, she gets reincarnated first, or is it in order of their age? |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2021 3:36:54 GMT -5
I think Es means, and correct me if I'm wrong, she'd have liked Phoebe's daughter to have literally been reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. Not just named after them. Thank you for clarifying, that makes more sense. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 29, 2021 8:38:42 GMT -5
And if that's what you like, go for it. I don't like it, but again, that's just me. I don't like the idea of any of them having to die in order to become something, especially if that then means that the other two can't be Charmed, especially if they're my three - the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. But as always, that's just me. Oh that makes sense, when it comes towards the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue, is that in order of when they died? Like because Patty died first, she gets reincarnated first, or is it in order of their age? I wouldn't think it mattered too much. They are all dead by the time Phoebe has her children so I guess it's whoever chooses to "pass over" first because it obviously means leaving the afterlife in order to be reborn. By this time point, Grams is no longer "coaching" the girls from above and they would hope they're a long time off reuniting with the girls in the afterlife so I don't think any of them would wait around for any particular reason. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 29, 2021 8:48:52 GMT -5
I think Es means, and correct me if I'm wrong, she'd have liked Phoebe's daughter to have literally been reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue. Not just named after them. Thank you for clarifying, that makes more sense. Yup, that's what I meant. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Jan 29, 2021 8:52:57 GMT -5
Oh that makes sense, when it comes towards the reincarnations of Penny, Patty and Prue, is that in order of when they died? Like because Patty died first, she gets reincarnated first, or is it in order of their age? I wouldn't think it mattered too much. They are all dead by the time Phoebe has her children so I guess it's whoever chooses to "pass over" first because it obviously means leaving the afterlife in order to be reborn. By this time point, Grams is no longer "coaching" the girls from above and they would hope they're a long time off reuniting with the girls in the afterlife so I don't think any of them would wait around for any particular reason. Actually, the reason why I have Patty as the oldest is because I wanted Prue to have a chance to NOT be the oldest and wanted Penny as the baby after the horrid way she used her powers as Grams and the way she raised the sisters (Sorry, Granny Charmed! Had Charmed ended with 'All Hell Breaks Loose', I'd feel differently.) I also thought that since I think Phoebe would make a horrible mother (since it was always about PhoeME) so I would hope that like Prue, the oldest would be the best substitute mother, that would be Patty. Actually I like the idea of a car crash killing Phoebe, Coop, Paige and Henry leaving Piper stuck with raising 9 magical kids! Hehehehehehehe! Then for sure Prue and Penny would need Patty! But that's my idea. As always, Brianna, do yours the way you'd want to. |
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Post by BriannaWarren2.0 on Jan 29, 2021 14:33:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it mattered too much. They are all dead by the time Phoebe has her children so I guess it's whoever chooses to "pass over" first because it obviously means leaving the afterlife in order to be reborn. By this time point, Grams is no longer "coaching" the girls from above and they would hope they're a long time off reuniting with the girls in the afterlife so I don't think any of them would wait around for any particular reason. Actually, the reason why I have Patty as the oldest is because I wanted Prue to have a chance to NOT be the oldest and wanted Penny as the baby after the horrid way she used her powers as Grams and the way she raised the sisters (Sorry, Granny Charmed! Had Charmed ended with 'All Hell Breaks Loose', I'd feel differently.) I also thought that since I think Phoebe would make a horrible mother (since it was always about PhoeME) so I would hope that like Prue, the oldest would be the best substitute mother, that would be Patty. Actually I like the idea of a car crash killing Phoebe, Coop, Paige and Henry leaving Piper stuck with raising 9 magical kids! Hehehehehehehe! Then for sure Prue and Penny would need Patty! But that's my idea. As always, Brianna, do yours the way you'd want to. Thats an interesting idea, I would love to see how that would play out. |
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Post by Astral Echo on Jan 29, 2021 16:16:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't think it mattered too much. They are all dead by the time Phoebe has her children so I guess it's whoever chooses to "pass over" first because it obviously means leaving the afterlife in order to be reborn. By this time point, Grams is no longer "coaching" the girls from above and they would hope they're a long time off reuniting with the girls in the afterlife so I don't think any of them would wait around for any particular reason. Actually, the reason why I have Patty as the oldest is because I wanted Prue to have a chance to NOT be the oldest and wanted Penny as the baby after the horrid way she used her powers as Grams and the way she raised the sisters (Sorry, Granny Charmed! Had Charmed ended with 'All Hell Breaks Loose', I'd feel differently.) I also thought that since I think Phoebe would make a horrible mother (since it was always about PhoeME) so I would hope that like Prue, the oldest would be the best substitute mother, that would be Patty. Actually I like the idea of a car crash killing Phoebe, Coop, Paige and Henry leaving Piper stuck with raising 9 magical kids! Hehehehehehehe! Then for sure Prue and Penny would need Patty! But that's my idea. As always, Brianna, do yours the way you'd want to. Considering what I think about the afterlife, Grams is probably the most likely to stay to watch over girls until the last possible moment so her being the third child does make the most sense. |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Sept 2, 2021 21:53:06 GMT -5
I really like Es's idea of Phoebe's daughters being the reincarnation of Patty, Penny and Prue too. The only part I disagree with is Phoebe making a bad mother.
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