If the sisters had different original powers instead?

[Ruth Marie]

If Prue didn't have Telekinesis, Piper didn't have Molecular Immobilization and Phoebe didn't Premonition. What three powers would you give to each of the sisters as their original power instead?

[Melinda Halliwell]

I think the sisters powers fitted well with each other going hand in hand with what they were the Charmed Ones so I wouldn't change ghem I think.

[sky1]

If I had to go wacky way!
I think Phoebe should get super speed. Imagine S1 Phoebe speeding around!
For Piper I would go super strength. Imagine S1 Piper cooking with super strength!
For Prue I would go with immune to getting harmed. Would get a lot more scenes with Prue kicking ass without damage. Maybe even add welding sword/dagger etc!

[lordumbrex]

The only change I'd make in the original power set is giving Piper molecular deceleration so her power has more room to evolve and grow throughout the show.

[Esmeralda]

I agree with the original three, especially if they don't get any other, but that's not that this thread is about - it's about giving them different powers.

For me, I'd choose their secondary power, but give it to the proper sister.

Molecular acceleration goes to Prue (just like Piper, she only accelerates the molecules until they explode - no combustion included)- she'd still be the one who can protect her sisters
Empathy goes to Piper - if she felt what others felt, maybe she wouldn't whine so much, especially if the empathy made her take their pain into herself before it faded so that she could heal the other person - then no need for Leo or any other whitelighter
Astral Projection goes to Phoebe - She'd be able to use that similar to her premonitions but have much better control over it since she would send her astral self into the future and find out what's gong to happen and be able to bring it back once she knew. She wouldn't be able to influence what she sees, but would have more freedom as to where she goes and what she sees once she gets there.

[rebooted]

I think the first three powers were fine.

For Prue
Start with TK, then get Levitation, then get Levitation

For Piper
Start with Slow Down, then get Freeze, then get blow up.

For Phoebe
Start with Premonition, (developing to whenever you want one), then astral projection, then empathy.


For Paige
Start with TK Orbing, never developing physical orbing, just orbing in and out, then levitation like Prue (above)
Never healing, never physical orbing, never glamouring, never whitelighter add ons

[Esmeralda]

But that's not what this thread is about. Most fans agree that the original powers were best which is why a lot of fans (me including) think all of the extra powers were unnecessary.

But that's not what this thread is about. That is *not* an option for this thread. This thread makes you think.

[imdb lives on]

Phoebe would have invisibility

Prue Would have super strength

Piper would be a shapeshifter

Paige teleportation

That way they wouldn't be to strong and each could contribute to the power of three

[universalcharmed]

Considering they are suppose to be One of the Ultimate powers I would want them to have unique powerful abilities.

Prue: Astral Plane Manipulation
Piper: Molecular Manipulation)
Pheobe: Chronokinesis
Paige: Conjuring the Elements


From this their abilities could have grown.

From Astral Manipulation you could have gotten:
-Astral Projection
-Dream Manipulation
-Telepathy
-Telekineis
-Psychic Argumentation
-Kinetic Shield
-Etc

Molecular Manipulation forms into:
-Speed up or Slow down Molecules
-Change Molecules
-Biological control
-Density Control
-Deconstruction
-Etc

Chronokinesis could develop into:
-Accelerate or Decelerate Time
-Stop time
-Time Travel
-Being able to perceive any possible future, present or past.
-Alternate reality Jumping/Creation
-Etc

Elemental Manipulation could form into:
-Hydrokinesis
-Pyrokinesis
-Aerokinesis
-Terrakinesis/Phytokinesis
-Aethikinesis
-Etc

[Deleted]

Prue: Firepower

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe: Teleportation



So, basically, Prue is 'the Attacker', Piper 'the Defender' and Phoebe 'the Escape'   Not too dissimilar to their original powers, which were perfect.  

[Esmeralda]

Nov 26, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5 @deano said:

Prue: Firepower

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe: Teleportation



So, basically, Prue is 'the Attacker', Piper 'the Defender' and Phoebe 'the Escape'   Not too dissimilar to their original powers, which were perfect.  

Perfect if it included Phoebe's premonitions instead of the teleportation. Without those, they wouldn't know who they're supposed to save. With Prue's and Piper's, they wouldn't really need teleportation - just Piper's vehicle.

[Esmeralda]

Nov 26, 2017 23:50:28 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

Nov 26, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5 @deano said:

Prue: Firepower

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe: Teleportation



So, basically, Prue is 'the Attacker', Piper 'the Defender' and Phoebe 'the Escape'   Not too dissimilar to their original powers, which were perfect.  

Perfect if it included Phoebe's premonitions instead of the teleportation. Without those, they wouldn't know who they're supposed to save. With Prue's and Piper's, they wouldn't really need teleportation - just Piper's vehicle.

OOOOPS!!! I'm laughing at myself! I'm forgetting that we're not supposed to use the original powers given to the original sister and that's exactly what I did. So I'll change it.

I really do think that as the leader, Prue should be the one who gets the premonitions, so she can tell the others what to do and where to go, while still letting Piper be the "Defender" and letting *Phoebe* be the "Attacker" So that makes it this:

Prue (and later Paige): Premonitions (Paige would actually orb to the future - this would also prevent Prue from becoming the Mary Sue of the show)

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe Firepower (given her past life and her Morality Bites future, it makes sense that she'd be the one with this. BUT she would *not* be able to use this on demons - just warlocks. This means they'd use warlocks more often so they *could* let her use it, while forcing the sisters to use spells and potions on the demons, preventing Phoebe from becoming the Power of One like Canon Piper did once she got her explosion power.)

Whatcha think?

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Nov 28, 2017 5:26:10 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

OOOOPS!!! I'm laughing at myself! I'm forgetting that we're not supposed to use the original powers given to the original sister and that's exactly what I did. So I'll change it.

I really do think that as the leader, Prue should be the one who gets the premonitions, so she can tell the others what to do and where to go, while still letting Piper be the "Defender" and letting *Phoebe* be the "Attacker" So that makes it this:

Prue (and later Paige): Premonitions (Paige would actually orb to the future - this would also prevent Prue from becoming the Mary Sue of the show)

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe Firepower (given her past life and her Morality Bites future, it makes sense that she'd be the one with this. BUT she would *not* be able to use this on demons - just warlocks. This means they'd use warlocks more often so they *could* let her use it, while forcing the sisters to use spells and potions on the demons, preventing Phoebe from becoming the Power of One like Canon Piper did once she got her explosion power.)

Whatcha think?

Sorry, Es. I've just noticed your reply now!

I like Prue and Paige have Premonition power, as I think they would use it more effectively than Phoebe did, and they are more logical thinkers. If we weren't allowed to use ANY of the original powers, perhaps Telepathy could work too?

I also don't mind Phoebe being 'the Attacker' because it would create an interesting dynamic between her and Prue in the early days, especially as they would need to rely on Phoebe to protect them. Completely agree on limiting her firepower though. In fact, I would not like her to have Firestarting ability like Tyler or Christy, but just be able to create fireballs or throw fire, as projectiles are avoidable whereas setting things alight with no room for escape is 'Power of One' territory. 

Another idea I've had recently is Prue having Premonitions, which would later develop into Freezing, with the connection being that they are both Time Perception powers. Sometimes I think the time/space powers are a bit "out there" for Piper's characters. She's generally more straightforward and pragmatic.   

I thought maybe:

Prue: Premonition > Retrocognition > Enhanced Perception/Intuition > Molecular Deceleration (P. Baxter's power) > Freezing

Piper: Telekinesis > Forcefields > minor Telekinetic blasts

Phoebe: Thermal Manipulation (burning/scalding/boiling) > Light Manipulation (utilise light to create warm, growth or to burn things. Kali and Phoebe used this power on a plant in 'The Fourth Sister) > Firepower (creating fireballs/jets of fire)


I know you'll probably hate these ideas though, Es, and think they'd be ridiculously overpowered 

[Esmeralda]

May 30, 2018 9:43:37 GMT -5 @deano said:

Nov 28, 2017 5:26:10 GMT -5 Esmeralda said:

OOOOPS!!! I'm laughing at myself! I'm forgetting that we're not supposed to use the original powers given to the original sister and that's exactly what I did. So I'll change it.

I really do think that as the leader, Prue should be the one who gets the premonitions, so she can tell the others what to do and where to go, while still letting Piper be the "Defender" and letting *Phoebe* be the "Attacker" So that makes it this:

Prue (and later Paige): Premonitions (Paige would actually orb to the future - this would also prevent Prue from becoming the Mary Sue of the show)

Piper: Forcefield Generation

Phoebe Firepower (given her past life and her Morality Bites future, it makes sense that she'd be the one with this. BUT she would *not* be able to use this on demons - just warlocks. This means they'd use warlocks more often so they *could* let her use it, while forcing the sisters to use spells and potions on the demons, preventing Phoebe from becoming the Power of One like Canon Piper did once she got her explosion power.)

Whatcha think?

Sorry, Es. I've just noticed your reply now!

I like Prue and Paige have Premonition power, as I think they would use it more effectively than Phoebe did, and they are more logical thinkers. If we weren't allowed to use ANY of the original powers, perhaps Telepathy could work too?

I also don't mind Phoebe being 'the Attacker' because it would create an interesting dynamic between her and Prue in the early days, especially as they would need to rely on Phoebe to protect them. Completely agree on limiting her firepower though. In fact, I would not like her to have Firestarting ability like Tyler or Christy, but just be able to create fireballs or throw fire, as projectiles are avoidable whereas setting things alight with no room for escape is 'Power of One' territory. 

Another idea I've had recently is Prue having Premonitions, which would later develop into Freezing, with the connection being that they are both Time Perception powers. Sometimes I think the time/space powers are a bit "out there" for Piper's characters. She's generally more straightforward and pragmatic.   

I thought maybe:

Prue: Premonition > Retrocognition > Enhanced Perception/Intuition > Molecular Deceleration (P. Baxter's power) > Freezing

Piper: Telekinesis > Forcefields > minor Telekinetic blasts

Phoebe: Thermal Manipulation (burning/scalding/boiling) > Light Manipulation (utilise light to create warm, growth or to burn things. Kali and Phoebe used this power on a plant in 'The Fourth Sister) > Firepower (creating fireballs/jets of fire)


I know you'll probably hate these ideas though, Es, and think they'd be ridiculously overpowered 

LOL, of course you're right - you know me too well! But if you super-power the demons so these powers would be the only way the sisters could take care of them (meaning they're no longer the Charmed Ones, since they wouldn't need the Power of Three to get rid of them) then this progression make sense and an extremely boring show that's all about battles and special effects and not much else.

You know me - I've never cared for progressions when the original powers work just fine along with what makes them the Charmed Ones - the Power of Three.

Also, I don't like the fact that both Piper and Phoebe have offensive powers - I much preferred when only one has that, but one that won't kill on its own so the three would still depend on the Power of Three.

I think in this thread you're allowed to use the original powers as long as it's not given to the Charmed One who originally had it. But if you're right and you can't use any of the original ones, then telepathy for Prue and Paige works just fine.

Although I think that for defensive purposes, I have a new and better idea for Piper. Try out this set:

PRUE and PAIGE: Premonitions - makes sense for the leader to have this - and this would allow Paige to develop into the leader rather than Piper, despite being a half and the youngest. Typical Es - this would *not* be whitelighter influenced. Paige's only whitelighter power would be to orb so she'd be a witch with a single whitelighter power and a single witch power and not a living whitelighter with all of their powers. It would also prevent Prue from becoming a Mary Sue, which all of yours would be.

PIPER: Shielding (similar to what Baby Wyatt has and that she can extend to others so she can protect her sisters. This allows them the time to cast the Power of Three spell, similar to when she'd freeze things, but no longer need that particular special effect, the reason they dropped it. Like Wyatt, she has to actually activate it; she can't panic-shield, so if she's unconscious or caught by surprise, she's a dead duck) Again with her having this power and not molecular powers, she wouldn't become the Power of One.

PHOEBE: Shoot fire (just like P. Russell) - show that powers aren't good or evil but depend upon how they're used. But like Prue's TK, although she can burn baddies and stop them, it doesn't kill them. For that they need the Power of Three.

With those three absolutely no need to progress the powers.

[Astral Chaos]

I happen to appreciate the "timing, feeling and phases of the moon" theme so I would stick to that as a guideline. Also as I'm not super big on the multiple power thing, I'd prefer to do something where their power grows with them as people vs giving them any new abilities separate of the original.

So ...

Prue - Empathy. Honestly, I'm just really attracted to the idea of giving the emotionally stunted/repressed sister; opening Prue up and forcing her to actually feel things rather than tucking them away. As Prue gets more comfortable with expressing her feelings, her empathy can grow into her being able to communicate empathically and make others feel whatever it is she's feeling.

Piper - Chronokinesis. Starts out with her reversing time for a brief period (approx. 15 - 20 seconds). Expands into her being able to slow down time, stop time and speed up time. All for short intervals, never for more than 60 seconds. Her sisters would be unaffected.

Phoebe -- Telekinesis. Give the wild one the wild power. Start off with it reflecting Phoebe's lack of focus; TK energy just spewing off all over the place when she tries to use it. As she becomes more focused and disciplined, so does her power. Instead of things just knocking around and flying off in whatever direction, she's able to put her power to stable, practical use by moving/"lifting"/directing objects in the way she wants.

As for Paige (who in my mind would be a surprise fourth sister -- not a replacement -- as the other three would still be around):
I'd give her Prophetic Dreams and Healing. Have her find her sisters through her dreams, maybe. The dreams can develop into full blown foresight and a precognitive sense. Or maybe into Precognition, Clairvoyance and Retrocognition labelled simply "Premonitions" like we saw with Phoebe. Healing simply because I prefer it to Orbing. I don't like a bunch of people orbing around and besides, realistically, there's no need for an orber unless the sisters are leaving San Francisco -- it just leads to lazy writing. Healing fits Paige better anyway.

[Elle Em]

Astral Chaos, I really like your ideas for powers. It would be great to see someone as emotionally repressed as Prue having to deal with empathy and it helping her grow as a person. And I like the idea of time being tied to Piper's power in a general sense, doing more than just briefly freezing.

It would have been so fun to see Phoebe with telekinesis! She'd be so irresponsible with it at the beginning, and I think it would be a lot of fun for her. But then we'd see her using it more responsibly as she grows up.

I too am not a huge fan of orbing. Healing was the more important power if we're comparing the two. Even if Paige weren't a whitelighter and was just another full sister, her witch power could be tied to healing somehow. And I also like the idea of her having the premonition-type power, especially if she were still separated from her sisters into adulthood. It makes it seem like even if they aren't together physically until they're adults, she has some sort of psychic connection to them anyway. And it would be great to have them meet Paige and get over the challenge of trusting her pretty quickly when she has a premonition and they have to take her at her word for what she saw.

[Esmeralda]

I love your ideas for the sisters, too, Astral Chaos.

About the only one I don't like is healing. That I've always felt should be limited to full whitelighters who have earned their wings rather than ones whose parent did the earning - also why I don't think kids of any of these kids should get any sort of whitelighter power but instead have to wait until after they're dead and they've earned them and become whitelighters themselves.

I guess I'm still in the camp that none of the kids (Paige, Wyatt, Chris, etc.) should ever have any whitelighter or whitelighter-affected powers until after they're dead and only if they've earned those powers. Letting Paige have a whitelighter-affected power and setting it up this way is still what I consider the worst mistake Kern made.

But otherwise, your ideas are great!

[Hexenwerk]

Really love those powers and I agree with Es about healing and Whitelighters. Also, would empathy still function as it did in canon, or would you like to see it work differently? I appreciate your version of Piper's power.

[Astral Chaos]

Thank you Elle Em, Es, and Hexenwerk.
Theoretically -- if I were to write something with that set of powers -- Empathy would function most similarly to Primrose Empath but not identically. It wouldn't be the same as Season 6 (and onwards Empathy); I never enjoyed the power leeching aspect.

[Hexenwerk]

Jun 3, 2018 2:17:57 GMT -5 Astral Chaos said:

Thank you Elle Em, Es, and Hexenwerk.
Theoretically -- if I were to write something with that set of powers -- Empathy would function most similarly to Primrose Empath but not identically. It wouldn't be the same as Season 6 (and onwards Empathy); I never enjoyed the power leeching aspect.

How would empathy work as a main power, though? Would it start out as a way of perceiving beings around them who might mean them harm? And would Prue later be able to use the power to force others to feel things and fight them that way, like Vinceres being forced to feel mortal emotions that he as a demon couldn't handle? Glad that it wouldn't go the direction of power leeching, I also did not appreciate that development and it'd be interesting to see Prue relegated to a position other than the primary offense.