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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 9, 2018 0:48:35 GMT -5
Okay so imagine if Prue didn't die. Piper OR Phoebe do. What powers would Paige get being that she is half-whitelighter?
I think she'd keep orbing but maybe not have telekinetic orbing and instead be able to freeze/blow things up OR have premonitions/levitation/empathy?
What do people think?
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Post by Hexenwerk on Mar 9, 2018 1:46:47 GMT -5
I feel like, if Paige replaced Piper, she wouldn't have the power to blow things up if only because they still had Prue's telekinesis as an offensive force, so they wouldn't need to go there. I suppose if she had to have an offensive power, though, they could have given her energy balls or something eventually like an Elder; after all, Paige is a naturally-born Whitelighter, so who's to say that her powers wouldn't progress over time to Elder-like capabilities without actually making her an Elder? Same with her and empathy were she to replace Phoebe (or maybe it'd work kind of like a Whitelighter's ability to tune into their charges, instead).
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 9, 2018 5:03:04 GMT -5
But Piper had blowing things up even with Prue's power. Wait, aren't energy balls evil?
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Post by Hexenwerk on Mar 9, 2018 5:14:37 GMT -5
I always thought that by at the point her explosive power was coming in, the decision to fire Shannen Doherty was either already made or had at least come to mind, and that that is why they decided to change the original premise of Piper's power to give her the ability to blow stuff up. I meant the electricity thing or something that Elders have? I can't remember the exact term for it at the moment, I always just think of it as their power to smite whomever crosses them.
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 9, 2018 6:18:33 GMT -5
I see - well maybe something like that - I mean whitelighters work with Elders so I suppose their powers can be similar. It might be easier to write Phoebe dying but I love Prue and Phoebe's chemistry as sisters more than Prue and Piper's.
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 9, 2018 8:44:59 GMT -5
I feel like, if Paige replaced Piper, she wouldn't have the power to blow things up if only because they still had Prue's telekinesis as an offensive force, so they wouldn't need to go there. I suppose if she had to have an offensive power, though, they could have given her energy balls or something eventually like an Elder; after all, Paige is a naturally-born Whitelighter, so who's to say that her powers wouldn't progress over time to Elder-like capabilities without actually making her an Elder? Same with her and empathy were she to replace Phoebe (or maybe it'd work kind of like a Whitelighter's ability to tune into their charges, instead). OOOO! Had never thought about that, but I like those ideas. I never thought Paige would get Piper's explosion power because whitelighters are supposed to be pacifist. I always thought she'd either slow down/freeze or speed up molecules (and if someone wants to put orbs around that, fine - I HATED that power - it made her seem more whitelighter than witch since that was a whitelighter form of moving things with her mind, not a witch version at all, part of what made her a living whitelighter who could cast spells than a witch) while for Phoebe, she'd be able to orb to the future for a short time rather than just seeing the future. But in all three cases, I would've preferred her getting the power exactly the way her half-sister had it while also having a single whitelighter power, like orbing. That way she would truly be a witch - just a daughter of a whitelighter who inherited one of his powers, and not make having a whitelighter for a father suddenly more important than having a Warren for a mother, which should've been the most important part of Paige, but wasn't as she became Super Whitelighter the way Piper became Super Witch. That's what I always thought, but I must admit, Hexe, I like your ideas a lot more. |
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Post by sky1 on Mar 9, 2018 10:07:08 GMT -5
I would have liked that there were no whitelighter hybrid powers. Whitelighter is something you earn. Not something that you can pass on to your children (bad writing there). Paige imo should never have the orbing, healing etc. But simple receive one of the Warren powers. Which I guess they would give her the power from a gone sister (depends which sister is gone). Since it would;d be weird to have duplicate powers!
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 9, 2018 17:02:58 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts from everyone. I'm writing an AU series with Piper being gone and I've given Paige freezing and orbing. Not sure about healing...I feel she should earn that.
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Post by Hexenwerk on Mar 9, 2018 17:16:21 GMT -5
I feel like, if Paige replaced Piper, she wouldn't have the power to blow things up if only because they still had Prue's telekinesis as an offensive force, so they wouldn't need to go there. I suppose if she had to have an offensive power, though, they could have given her energy balls or something eventually like an Elder; after all, Paige is a naturally-born Whitelighter, so who's to say that her powers wouldn't progress over time to Elder-like capabilities without actually making her an Elder? Same with her and empathy were she to replace Phoebe (or maybe it'd work kind of like a Whitelighter's ability to tune into their charges, instead). OOOO! Had never thought about that, but I like those ideas. I never thought Paige would get Piper's explosion power because whitelighters are supposed to be pacifist. I always thought she'd either slow down/freeze or speed up molecules (and if someone wants to put orbs around that, fine - I HATED that power - it made her seem more whitelighter than witch since that was a whitelighter form of moving things with her mind, not a witch version at all, part of what made her a living whitelighter who could cast spells than a witch) while for Phoebe, she'd be able to orb to the future for a short time rather than just seeing the future. But in all three cases, I would've preferred her getting the power exactly the way her half-sister had it while also having a single whitelighter power, like orbing. That way she would truly be a witch - just a daughter of a whitelighter who inherited one of his powers, and not make having a whitelighter for a father suddenly more important than having a Warren for a mother, which should've been the most important part of Paige, but wasn't as she became Super Whitelighter the way Piper became Super Witch. That's what I always thought, but I must admit, Hexe, I like your ideas a lot more. Thank you, and I love the idea of actually orbing to the future, too! That would be cool to see, especially if it added an element of complication and/or danger. |
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Post by Esmeralda on Mar 9, 2018 18:07:24 GMT -5
OOOO! Had never thought about that, but I like those ideas. I never thought Paige would get Piper's explosion power because whitelighters are supposed to be pacifist. I always thought she'd either slow down/freeze or speed up molecules (and if someone wants to put orbs around that, fine - I HATED that power - it made her seem more whitelighter than witch since that was a whitelighter form of moving things with her mind, not a witch version at all, part of what made her a living whitelighter who could cast spells than a witch) while for Phoebe, she'd be able to orb to the future for a short time rather than just seeing the future. But in all three cases, I would've preferred her getting the power exactly the way her half-sister had it while also having a single whitelighter power, like orbing. That way she would truly be a witch - just a daughter of a whitelighter who inherited one of his powers, and not make having a whitelighter for a father suddenly more important than having a Warren for a mother, which should've been the most important part of Paige, but wasn't as she became Super Whitelighter the way Piper became Super Witch. That's what I always thought, but I must admit, Hexe, I like your ideas a lot more. Thank you, and I love the idea of actually orbing to the future, too! That would be cool to see, especially if it added an element of complication and/or danger. *nods* Exactly so! |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 9, 2018 19:10:35 GMT -5
XD Well I've written a story of Piper dying instead of Prue so I might include some of these ideas. It's called A New Destiny Awaits for anyone interested
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Post by Ruth Marie on Mar 10, 2018 17:25:24 GMT -5
OOOO! Had never thought about that, but I like those ideas. I never thought Paige would get Piper's explosion power because whitelighters are supposed to be pacifist. I always thought she'd either slow down/freeze or speed up molecules (and if someone wants to put orbs around that, fine - I HATED that power - it made her seem more whitelighter than witch since that was a whitelighter form of moving things with her mind, not a witch version at all, part of what made her a living whitelighter who could cast spells than a witch) while for Phoebe, she'd be able to orb to the future for a short time rather than just seeing the future. But in all three cases, I would've preferred her getting the power exactly the way her half-sister had it while also having a single whitelighter power, like orbing. That way she would truly be a witch - just a daughter of a whitelighter who inherited one of his powers, and not make having a whitelighter for a father suddenly more important than having a Warren for a mother, which should've been the most important part of Paige, but wasn't as she became Super Whitelighter the way Piper became Super Witch. That's what I always thought, but I must admit, Hexe, I like your ideas a lot more. Thank you, and I love the idea of actually orbing to the future, too! That would be cool to see, especially if it added an element of complication and/or danger.iv] That would be very cool to see. Piper's exploding power to me would not be needed if Prue was alive and still the leader. But whatever you decide paigehalliwell1, do as you feel is necessary. But maybe you will win me over with your take on how her powers work. |
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Post by cyma on Mar 11, 2018 10:29:14 GMT -5
After looking at what the writers and effects department came up with, Paige's replacement powers if Piper died could've been: For Freezing Powers:- Temporal Stasis: Slowing down or completely stop the flow of time. This is how Avatars and Triad froze time. It wasn't sudden like Piper's but everything slowed down before stopping completely. - Molecular Deceleration: Slows down the molecules of an object, putting it in a slow motion-like state:  This also how Cupids have been shown to slow time. Not to mention Cole who slowed a bad guy shooting at Darryl. - Accelerated Perception: This is when the user's mind and senses process information at such speeds that time appears to have slowed down, allowing them to perceive what would normally be moving too fast to see and respond accordingly. So it's basically seeing time in slow-motion. This effect was used in All Hell Breaks Loose when Prue was unable to take Piper to the hopistal because reporters were blocking her way. The world didn't literally slow down for the characters, but for the audience it felt that way. Another time the effect was used was when Leo entered Piper's dream in Once Upon a Time to tell her to forget about him. I'm leaning towards this power for Paige because it wouldn't overpower her when her whitelighter powers of orbing and healing are also counted. Just because she could see everything around her move in slow motion doesn't mean she's fast enough to stop everything. She's not Flash or QuickSilver. She wouldn't have hyper speed. But this is how I imagine a whitelighter side of Paige would make freezing power work differently. For Explosive Powers(though I wouldn't prefer them so not to overpower Paige):
-Molecular Dispersion: The power to destroy a target by reducing it to its constituent molecules by giving them massive amounts of energy which forces them to scatter. It is very similar to Molecular Combustion in which molecules are ripped apart, but without any combustion. This is how Gideon killed Sigmund. -Whatever this is called: Bonus gif:  Though the above ability is called Time Reduction. And the character using it was quite powerful, the effect to me still feels like Molecular Deceleration. |
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Post by fallingsnow6136 on Mar 11, 2018 17:53:22 GMT -5
cyma, I love your ideas  They totally work for me thank you |
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Post by cyma on Mar 12, 2018 10:05:29 GMT -5
cyma, I love your ideas They totally work for me thank you Glad to hear I forgot to do Phoebe's death power replacement and Paige whitelighter powers though. Maybe later. |
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Post by Hexenwerk on Mar 13, 2018 17:51:57 GMT -5
Cyma, I loooove those ideas! And the gifs you used for them were perfect in getting them across exactly.
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They totally work for me thank you